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katex 07-05-2009 11:53

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Like this too :-


Homes plan for Great Harwood police station (From Lancashire Telegraph)

park381 07-05-2009 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 711473)
Am I just being green and mean ? Or are the neighbours ? ... :rolleyes::D

May be, but HBC indicated the application did not comply with the Policy E10 :)

katex 07-05-2009 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 711504)
May be, but HBC indicated the application did not comply with the Policy E10 :)

I know ... :) Still ... :D

katex 20-05-2009 10:12

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Eeew hek ! More trouble brewing methinks :

11/09/0177 Erection of Retail Store (Class A1) Land at Heys Lane/Station
with Road Great Harwood
associated car parking, landscaping,
access and servicing
12/05/2009
Aldi Stores Ltd

derekgas 20-05-2009 11:01

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The building that Tesco originally put an offer in for, on Burnley road, Clayton, has now got an auction sign on it, so could be more supermarket sweeping going on.

katex 27-06-2009 21:57

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I'm not a happy bunny ... nothing on the website since period ending 15/5/09 !!
http://planetsmilies.net/kaos-animal...miley-6082.gif
Yet, last week in the Observer, they had a list of applications. Did they get them sent by HBC ? Can't see that they visited Scaitliffe House to view. Wasn't much anyway, unless you consider Sparth House applying for a swimming pool.
Course you will all know that Tesco's application has now been accepted for Great Harwood ... :(

Are the general public being ignored now with regard to up-to-date information ?

jaysay 28-06-2009 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 724957)
I'm not a happy bunny ... nothing on the website since period ending 15/5/09 !!
http://planetsmilies.net/kaos-animal...miley-6082.gif
Yet, last week in the Observer, they had a list of applications. Did they get them sent by HBC ? Can't see that they visited Scaitliffe House to view. Wasn't much anyway, unless you consider Sparth House applying for a swimming pool.
Course you will all know that Tesco's application has now been accepted for Great Harwood ... :(

Are the general public being ignored now with regard to up-to-date information ?

Me thinks that 99.99999% of the GP don't give a damn about planning kate, unless it affects them that is:rolleyes:

katex 28-06-2009 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725065)
Me thinks that 99.99999% of the GP don't give a damn about planning kate, unless it affects them that is:rolleyes:

Agree to a certain extent Jaysay. It is human nature to take an interest in buildings in your area that would affect you, like large extension to the house next door oveshadowing your own home, planning for a drug centre which may affect the price of your property, new supermarkets which may tread on your toes, transport systems which may take away the parking from outside your front door and change of use to nearby shops.

I think now though there is a slight rise in interest in general applications for the regeneration of our town ... because more information has become available. Years ago ... us working class would not be aware that we could have a say in what the council intended and wouldn't think our voices expressing opinion would have any clout. Now, however, it is there through the media, and through the internet. That is why I am so annoyed that they have not put up any details for weeks !! Someone being sloppy.

We do on here, for example, discuss certain intentions of new developments which would not have been so openly displayed in the past.

claytonender 28-06-2009 23:15

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Kate - all councillors get a list of planning applications (which have been submitted that week) emailed to them weekly. If you give me your email address in a PM - I will send you copies of the emails from w/e 15/05/09)

katex 28-06-2009 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 725259)
Kate - all councillors get a list of planning applications (which have been submitted that week) emailed to them weekly. If you give me your email address in a PM - I will send you copies of the emails from w/e 15/05/09)


Great Claytonender ... will do .. but I will copy it on here.

Still does not excuse the Planning Department though for the length of time since the last ones were put on their website. Had been set up as a public service which is not being fulfilled, and now taking up your precious time to do what you suggest.

BERNADETTE 28-06-2009 23:22

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And as for the drug rehabilitation centre Kate they know objections are going to be nearly zilch cos hardly any residents at present. Makes me wonder if the new developments backers are going to be best pleased at getting planning permission spending money on re-developing then having this put on the doorstep of the properties.

katex 28-06-2009 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 725263)
And as for the drug rehabilitation centre Kate they know objections are going to be nearly zilch cos hardly any residents at present. Makes me wonder if the new developments backers are going to be best pleased at getting planning permission spending money on re-developing then having this put on the doorstep of the properties.


Their is one letter of objection in the Observer Bernie ... don't know whether you have seen it from an elderly couple who live opposite the proposed site.

They feel because the site is more isolated than the original suggestion of Avenue Parade, there will not be as much supervision ordered on Paradise Street/Eagle Street where there is not even a CCTV camera. They already have experiences of large boozing parties on their back drive.

garinda 28-06-2009 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725065)
Me thinks that 99.99999% of the GP don't give a damn about planning kate, unless it affects them that is:rolleyes:

I suspect that figure will be reversed when it comes to the planning application for the mosque.

BERNADETTE 29-06-2009 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 725269)
Their is one letter of objection in the Observer Bernie ... don't know whether you have seen it from an elderly couple who live opposite the proposed site.

They feel because the site is more isolated than the original suggestion of Avenue Parade, there will not be as much supervision ordered on Paradise Street/Eagle Street where there is not even a CCTV camera. They already have experiences of large boozing parties on their back drive.

Yep saw it Kate, was my next door neighbour. They share the same bit of back street as me and to be honest would think it is highly unlikely there was ever a boozing party down there. Do understand their concerns given their ages but the facility is needed and as far as I'm concerned the decision was made ages ago. As I said before very few residents to object to the proposal, enough said in my book. Having said that not the best idea in the world to put it next to the skate park IMHO

claytonender 29-06-2009 20:30

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Hope you got the copies of the planning applications that I emailed you. I was about to email the planning dept to ask when the website would be uptodate - but when I checked the website I noticed that the reports were there but in the wrong order.

katex 29-06-2009 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 725443)
Hope you got the copies of the planning applications that I emailed you. I was about to email the planning dept to ask when the website would be uptodate - but when I checked the website I noticed that the reports were there but in the wrong order.

Whoops .. you are so right Claytender :o Have looked at it many times and never spotted that ... just looked at the top the bottom two. It's in a mess, isn't it.
Suppose I owe the Planning Department an apology.

Got your E-mail and have replied to thank you for your prompt attention.

Lots of improvements to houses still reflecting the reluctance of people to move house. Just these two are of interest:-

11/09/0201 Outlined Application: Erection of a 12,000 Land off Red Shell Lane 11/06/2009
bird, free range egg production, unit Oswaldtwistle Accrington BB5
3RW

Mr William Holden


Not sure whether I would like to be near it ... cluck, cluck.:D


and of course:-


11/09/0232 Erection of three-storey sixth form centre St. Christopher's C of E High School Queens Road on existing games court, with associated West 10/06/2009
landscaping, parking and access from Accrington BB5 4AY
Queen's Road West


Mrs Pam Haralambos


Long overdue, but not keen on it being linked to a church school despite their reassurances will have no affect on non C of E children who wish to attend.




Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 725270)
I suspect that figure will be reversed when it comes to the planning application for the mosque.


Already started Garinda ... suspect we will have lots to say on here when the plans are submitted. Myself, would hate it to have one of the gold globes ...building bling in Hyndburn .. yuk.

jaysay 30-06-2009 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 725459)
Whoops .. you are so right Claytender :o Have looked at it many times and never spotted that ... just looked at the top the bottom two. It's in a mess, isn't it.
Suppose I owe the Planning Department an apology.

Got your E-mail and have replied to thank you for your prompt attention.

Lots of improvements to houses still reflecting the reluctance of people to move house. Just these two are of interest:-

11/09/0201 Outlined Application: Erection of a 12,000 Land off Red Shell Lane 11/06/2009
bird, free range egg production, unit Oswaldtwistle Accrington BB5
3RW

Mr William Holden


Not sure whether I would like to be near it ... cluck, cluck.:D


and of course:-


11/09/0232 Erection of three-storey sixth form centre St. Christopher's C of E High School Queens Road on existing games court, with associated West 10/06/2009
landscaping, parking and access from Accrington BB5 4AY
Queen's Road West


Mrs Pam Haralambos


Long overdue, but not keen on it being linked to a church school despite their reassurances will have no affect on non C of E children who wish to attend.







Already started Garinda ... suspect we will have lots to say on here when the plans are submitted. Myself, would hate it to have one of the gold globes ...building bling in Hyndburn .. yuk.

Its not so much the gold globes with me kate its that bloke screaming from a minaret 5 times a day that would do my head in:rolleyes:

katex 30-06-2009 09:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725522)
Its not so much the gold globes with me kate its that bloke screaming from a minaret 5 times a day that would do my head in:rolleyes:

We are assured that this is not going to happen Jaysay.

jaysay 30-06-2009 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 725525)
We are assured that this is not going to happen Jaysay.

We must be grateful for small mercies:rolleyes:

katex 09-07-2009 22:11

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Thanks Claytonender for sending me the weekly applications.

Sure the Stanley fans are aware of this one.. :D

11/09/0279 Retention for a temporary period until 20th June 2010 of ground control room at first Stanley
floor level with access stairway and screen fencing and including external alterations
Accrington Crown Ground Livingstone Road Accrington 30/06/2009

Mr Rob Heys\ASFC

11/09/0227 Installation of a 4.8m high Ornamental Clock within community garden area Rishton Blackburn BB1 4LA
(Regulation 3)
Land at Parker Street Gardens 26/06/2009
Rishton Area Council

Sounds good.

11/09/0254 The siting of a steel storage container for Peel Park School Community Primary Alice Street Accrington 17/06/2009
outdoor sports equipment and erection of 2 School
canopies within the play ground
Children and Young People Directorate

11/09/0236 Erection of single storey swimming pool The Laurels 243 Manchester 15/06/2009
Road Accrington BB5 2PF
Mr Anthony Helliwell

Gotta' admire this guy his persistency.

Notice in the Observer that the LCC have given notice of application for planning permission for the new bus station on Crawshaw Street ... good.

cashman 10-07-2009 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 727662)

11/09/0227 Installation of a 4.8m high Ornamental Clock within community garden area Rishton Blackburn BB1 4LA
(Regulation 3)
Land at Parker Street Gardens 26/06/2009
Rishton Area Council

Sounds good.

will only benefit visitors n passing motorists though surely.:D

lancsdave 10-07-2009 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 727662)
Notice in the Observer that the LCC have given notice of application for planning permission for the new bus station on Crawshaw Street ... good.


Good for who ? :confused:

katex 11-07-2009 09:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 727860)
will only benefit visitors n passing motorists though surely.:D

Misery guts ... think it will be a lovely feature .. might as well be a clock and be useful to some at least ... :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 727862)
Good for who ? :confused:

For the town Lancsdave. I think getting rid of the current overcrowded, added and patched up, dangerous to negotiate one we have got now, is a good move. They are offering a state of the art bus station which will be far more visitor friendly and still within striking distance of the shops.

Also, I love the idea of a civic square to replace the old one ... think this will encourage more people to go into this area besides the passing pedestrian traffic going for the bus. Even you, where your stall is, must admit is a very dark oppressive, carbon emissions filled little corridor which isn't pleasant to walk along. Will be so much nicer when it is more open and light. I think it will only increase visitors to your business.

Now, why do you think the bus station should stay where it is then ?

Bernard Dawson 11-07-2009 09:56

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We need a purpose built bus station. Peel St was never a bus station. Peel St is just a street that happened to have stops on it.

And there is a difference between what we have now in my opinion, and a proper bus station. It's also got to be in the right place of course.

Neil 11-07-2009 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 727934)
Now, why do you think the bus station should stay where it is then ?

He likes watching young ladies in short skirts bending over to take their babies out of the pram before getting on the bus :eek:

BERNADETTE 11-07-2009 10:32

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Crawshaw Street is hardly ideal for the elderly or people with mobility problems, it is a fair walk in these circumstances.

katex 11-07-2009 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 727944)
Crawshaw Street is hardly ideal for the elderly or people with mobility problems, it is a fair walk in these circumstances.

Hardly Bernie... can't get much closer to the Arndale, wouldn't think more than 100 metres at a guess, and if they wish to visit the market, (not all do) is easily linked and short distance ... :confused:

We are a very small centre and don't have to walk very far to get to any of the shops. If you consider where bus stations at Burnley and Blackburn are ... then visitors have much further to walk.

BERNADETTE 11-07-2009 10:49

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But the buses stop outside both Blackburn and Burnley markets more or less, are there going to be stops nearer to our market?

katex 11-07-2009 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 727948)
But the buses stop outside both Blackburn and Burnley markets more or less, are there going to be stops nearer to our market?

Possibly Bernie .. certainly in the regeneration plan looks like Blackburn Road will be made more accessable and converted into 2-way traffic shared space (in front of Town Hall) .. not sure if the buses will still be running across there though, but blimey ! how much closer do you want buses to be than Crawshaw Street. Still feel only a short distance to the market. I don't think this distance argument holds any clout at all.

BERNADETTE 11-07-2009 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 727956)
Possibly Bernie .. certainly in the regeneration plan looks like Blackburn Road will be made more accessable and converted into 2-way traffic shared space (in front of Town Hall) .. not sure if the buses will still be running across there though, but blimey ! how much closer do you want buses to be than Crawshaw Street. Still feel only a short distance to the market. I don't think this distance argument holds any clout at all.

It might seem a short distance to us who are physically ok to get about but as I said the elderly and people with limited mobility might find it a struggle to carry shopping that far.

katex 11-07-2009 12:19

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How far will a disabled shopper walk whilst going around town though Bernie... a lot further than the hop from Crawshaw Street to the shops. You can argue that it will be nearer the Arndale if that is shoppers' preference. What happens when they go home and get to their bus stop ... surely will have much further to walk with heavy shopping ?... buses aren't door-to-door.

I think the civil square will also open better pedestrian flow to Little Blackburn Road, Peel Street, Infant Street, and any shops on the other side of the square. Certainly, will not be put off by all the buses up and down Peel Street ... 'tis a nightmare crossing there.

lancsdave 12-07-2009 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 727934)
Now, why do you think the bus station should stay where it is then ?

One word ..... footfall :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 727941)
He likes watching young ladies in short skirts bending over to take their babies out of the pram before getting on the bus :eek:


They don't have all have babies or prams :D

katex 12-07-2009 15:52

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1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 728176)
One word ..... footfall :)




Ah well, I have only expressed an opinion on this project, and still feel with the introduction of the civic square, you would see lots more footfall. How lovely would this be to linger and watch any events which, hopefully, will be there :-

Attachment 14179 Ignore the cherry blossom, would only happen in May ... LOL.

We cannot miss this opportunity of a new bus station, as would provide an excellent and more pleasant point of arrival to any visitors :-

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environ...%20summary.pdf

katex 31-07-2009 09:25

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I know, I know ... at it again .. :)

11/09/0312 Erection of replacement single storey Former Cliffe Brickworks off 20/07/2009
Aviary/Bird Hospital (Resubmission Cliffe Lane Great Harwood
11/08/0358)
Mr Peter Wall


Is a rebsubmission, turned down due to green belt and laying of hard surface, building and car parking affecting the appearance and visually intrusive outlook. Aaah . bird hospital.


11/09/0317 Full : Change of use of Public House to 181 Blackburn Road 22/07/2009
Retail Shop with living accommodation, Accrington BB5 0AF
installation of shop front, siting of new
entrance door and erection of single storey
kitchen extension at rear
Mrs M Masood


Which pub was this ?


11/09/0319 Erection of 60 metre high meteorogical mast Land on Oswaldtwistle Moor 22/07/2009
for up to a 36 months period Oswaldtwistle
Energiekontor UK Ltd


Eeew hek, lots of objections coming through already.


11/09/0311 Incorporation of land into residential Land to rear of Blossom 17/07/2009
curtilages of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, Avenue Oswaldtwistle
20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32 and 34 Blossom Accrington BB5 0FD
Avenue and erection of boundary fencing
The Residents of


Resident of ?


11/09/0295 Change of use from Snooker Club to Use Class Elite Snooker Club Jacob 09/07/2009
D1 non residential education and training Street Accrington BB5 1HU
centre including reinstatement of built up
window openings, replacement of roof
structures and first floor extension to
existing garage with link to main building
to form teaching block (Total 2082m2)
North Lancs Training Group


Another one bites the dust.


2
At paragraph 15 the Inspector concludes “I have found the Council’s decision
to set aside the views of the previous Inspector, and its failure to provide
evidence to back up its decision, to be unreasonable. I consider that together
these actions have resulted in abortive work leading to unnecessary cost, and
I conclude that a full award of costs be made”
The appellant has now submitted a claim for a full award of costs and this is
for £1950. This has been checked and is in the process of being paid. This
has implications for the Planning service as there is no specific budget for
dealing with such matters.
Whilst the Planning Committee is fully entitled to make decisions that are
contrary to officer recommendation members are asked to note that costs will
likely be awarded in the event that the comments of previous Inspectors are
not fully taken into account as part of the decision making process. Given that
applicants can now apply for costs for any type of planning appeal (written
representations, hearings and Inquiries) it is imperative that decisions are
robust, sound and backed up by policies and above all that decision making is
reasonable.

Looks like the Planning Committe got their financial hands slapped here.
Without going into too much detail .. was to do with not making a decision in time and informing the applicant, therefore causing him costs due to the hold up. Was Northlands, Park Road, Great Harwood re. drive and access.

BERNADETTE 31-07-2009 11:15

re: Planning Applications
 
The pub was The Oak Tree Kate:)

steeljack 01-08-2009 04:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 732375)
The pub was The Oak Tree Kate:)

just curious , (181 Blackburn Rd. ) where was the border between Accy and Church , seems a high number for being so near to the border or am I getting 2 Oak Trees on the same road mixed up ? :confused: :confused:
thanks

katex 02-08-2009 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 732552)
just curious , (181 Blackburn Rd. ) where was the border between Accy and Church , seems a high number for being so near to the border or am I getting 2 Oak Trees on the same road mixed up ? :confused: :confused:
thanks

See what you mean Steeljack ... there is an Oak Tree Inn pub (that was maybe) listed at 438, Blackburn Road, Accrington. This is probably almost in Church. The boundary is somewhere between Tanpits Road and Henry Street junctions. You will have to work out whether that was Church .. not good at the pubs, particularly on Blackburn Road.

181, Blackburn Road is probably on the right going into Accrington ... maybe not long before you get to the viaduct. ?

Bernie ? Do you think you got it wrong, and maybe the Globe or summat ? Or was there 2 Oak Trees ?

katex 02-08-2009 15:13

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Talking about Blackburn Road ... noted that an appeal was dismissed for a Hot Food takeaway . maybe the council care about the safety on Blackburn Road after all .. :)

RECENT APPEAL DECISION
Purpose of Report
The attached report advises members of recent appeal decision.
RECOMMENDED that:
Members note the report.
Planning Application 11/08/0350
Change of use from offices to hot food takeaway with office
accommodation above
203 Blackburn Road, Accrington, BB5 OAF
Officer Recommendation: Refusal
Delegated Decision
Planning appeal dismissed.
1 This appeal was dealt with by written representations and was
dismissed on 22nd June 2009
2 The Inspector concluded that the “proposed development would
materially reduce highway safety on Blackburn Road”.

BERNADETTE 02-08-2009 18:13

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Quote:

Katex. Bernie ? Do you think you got it wrong, and maybe the Globe or summat ? Or was there 2 Oak Trees ?
Quite possibly is the wrong address for the Oak Tree Kate, just noticed they had changed the front the other week and assumed it was there when I read your post. The only other place I can think of where they have changed the front is the Miners Club which is now a motor accessory place. Could that be the one in your post?

katex 02-08-2009 19:48

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Eh hek Bernie, not sure at all ... will have to ask Less or Mick to see what is at 181 on their daily stroll to The Railway (notice I have said 'on' as opposed to 'back' :D).

The Last Orders is 185, so only 2 doors down from that.

Benipete 03-08-2009 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 732877)
Eh hek Bernie, not sure at all ... will have to ask Less or Mick to see what is at 181 on their daily stroll to The Railway (notice I have said 'on' as opposed to 'back' :D).

The Last Orders is 185, so only 2 doors down from that.

I think 181 is the Globe as work has been going on for quite some time.

The Oaktree is 438 B'Burn road Accrington and is very near the border with Church.

Looks like it has been converted to an Off License.:theband:

BERNADETTE 03-08-2009 15:59

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Yep the Oak Tree is an off licence now:)

katex 03-08-2009 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 733002)
Yep the Oak Tree is an off licence now:)

Sorry Bernie .. but is this the Oak Tree that was near Church or the 'the other one' nearer to Accrington ?

BERNADETTE 03-08-2009 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 733117)
Sorry Bernie .. but is this the Oak Tree that was near Church or the 'the other one' nearer to Accrington ?

The one near Church, didn't know there was another.

katex 03-08-2009 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 733123)
The one near Church, didn't know there was another.

:rofl38:But that is 438 .. not 181 ! ... gosh, this has been sooo funny.

We'll blame Steeljack shall we ? ... :D

Mick 04-08-2009 04:31

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181 is the Globe next to the last orders its on the other side from glynn webs
The Oak tree is 438 is near the garage on Blackburn road at the Church end

katex 04-08-2009 09:15

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Thanks Mick and Benipete, and Bernie too.

So settled then Steeljack ... only one Oak Tree near to the border of Church ... notice you asked about the Globe in another thread, now you know what is happening to it.

Barrie Yates 04-08-2009 17:33

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The Oak Tree was virtually next door to the Queen's/Tudor, but not sure after all this time just where the boundary was?

MargaretR 04-08-2009 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 733392)
The Oak Tree was virtually next door to the Queen's/Tudor, but not sure after all this time just where the boundary was?

We had a thread about it, when they drained the lodge accross the road from it and wanted to shift the boundary so the housing estate wouldn't be split between Church and Accy.
I recall that the boundary was between the pub and the Queens.

katex 05-08-2009 18:51

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The Aldi application at Great Harwood was recommended for refusal, wonder if this is what happened at today's planning meeting ? There is a link below (bit long) if you wish to see why .. have to scroll down :

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ermination.pdf

harwood red 06-08-2009 09:46

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Working with Aldi's marketing dept I submitted a positive plea on behalf of residents who will be living close to this store and supposedly this was addressed by the Chair of the planning committee although I haven't heard what the outcome has been as yet!!

i hope we get it, in fact they can sack tesco off for me and just have the aldis...although if both go ahead I do think it will be the death of Co-op unless they bring their prices down dramatically

harwood red 06-08-2009 11:55

Re: Planning Applications
 
well the planning has been passed for the aldi store

see excerpt from Email I have received..

I can let you know that (despite the planning officers recommendation to refuse on grounds of need) the planning committee (your locally elected councillors) took a different view – and decided to approve this application. Therefore – I hope you will be pleased that Aldi will be coming to Great Harwood!

The committee’s decision was certainly helped by local residents letting Aldi know their supportive views in the first place, and then contacting/emailing local councillors. Also a local resident spoke at committee as a local resident in support of the proposal – and a number of other local residents also turned up. This all really helped.

As a result, I’m sure you (and other local residents who supported this scheme) will be pleased to see/learn that local democracy in Hyndburn Council really does work – and cllrs made their own minds up on the day.

Please contact me if you require any further information, but as stated I will get a letter out to all residents who have expressed an interest – so all are updated.

Thanks again for your help with this.

Well I am pleased about it :)

katex 06-08-2009 17:57

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Wow ! thanks HR ... that is a turn for the books.

katex 11-08-2009 22:11

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11/09/0333 Full : Change of use from PCT Resource Centre to a Drugs & Alcohol Resource Centre
and installation of additional door to front
elevation. Eagle Street House 33 Eagle Street Accrington BB5 1LN 05/08/2009

East Lancs PCT

Well, there it is.

11/09/0306 Full Application: Change of use from A1 12 - 14 Union Street Accrington 27/07/2009
(Retail) to A2 (Book Makers) including the
installation of 4 satellite dishes and air
conditioning units
Paddy Power PLC
11/09/0307 Advert Application: Installation of 2 No 12 - 14 Union Street Accrington 27/07/2009
internally illuminated fascia signs
Paddy Power PLC


They appear to be doing OK.

BERNADETTE 11-08-2009 22:26

re: Planning Applications
 
I posted about the drug and alcohol plans weeks ago, has it been passed? Mind you it is bound to not enough residents in the area to object.

katex 12-08-2009 07:02

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 735589)
I posted about the drug and alcohol plans weeks ago, has it been passed? Mind you it is bound to not enough residents in the area to object.

Yes, I know Bernie, was just confirming that the Planning Application has been submitted. The next planning meeting is scheduled for 26th August, will have to see whether it comes up for determination at this meeting.

claytonender 19-08-2009 20:31

re: Planning Applications
 
link to the agenda for next Wednesday's planning meeting (it is held at Scaitcliffe House at 11am)
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...26-08-2009.pdf
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ination_1_.pdf

katex 27-08-2009 23:25

re: Planning Applications
 
Thanks Claytonener, must admit thought this one was in the bag :

Accrington sixth form plans delayed over traffic fears (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Still, expect the school runners will be expected to drop their kids off by car until they are 18, so back to plan 'B' I guess for the traffic planners.

claytonender 27-08-2009 23:42

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 739781)
Thanks Claytonener, must admit thought this one was in the bag :

Accrington sixth form plans delayed over traffic fears (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Still, expect the school runners will be expected to drop their kids off by car until they are 18, so back to plan 'B' I guess for the traffic planners.

I spoke against the application, as it was presented to the committee (I was not on the planning committee).

The highways issue is really horrendous and hate to think what the extra pupils would mean, also there are only another 13 car parking spaces in the plans. The schools travel plan (produced in November 2007) states that car parking is a problem. The fact that most of the pupil come from outside the borough (Burnley, Nelson, Fence, Barrowford) makes 'green travel' impossible. The school also intends to have night classes and as the nearest public transport at night is at the junction of Queens Road West and Whalley Road, all the evening students will be using cars to access the building.

The other issue is the siting of the building within the site - a 3 story building over 20 metres high will overshadow the houses on Queens Road West and result in a loss of privacy etc, not to mention the disruption of people and traffic coming and going from 8am to possibly 11pm. The building could be sited in another location on the site but the head wants it to be a 'Statement', so wants it on the Queens Road West site.

katex 28-08-2009 09:37

re: Planning Applications
 
Got that Claytonender ... the LET report made the objection sound a little petty but, put that way, it isn't ... would be a big problem.

Surely not 'most' of the students coming from the Burnley area? One would hope is there mainly for Hyndburn students.

MargaretR 28-08-2009 09:57

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 739784)
The building could be sited in another location on the site but the head wants it to be a 'Statement', so wants it on the Queens Road West site.

Some of these head teachers have an overdeveloped sense of grandour:rolleyes:
This is to be a learning establishment and will not be competing in the architectural design of the year award - or will it:rolleyes:

Mariam82 28-08-2009 10:58

re: Planning Applications
 
Can see the argument about traffic - but it would be nice if we had somewhere in
hyndburn for our 'a' level students rather than blackburn.

claytonender 28-08-2009 13:13

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariam82 (Post 739811)
Can see the argument about traffic - but it would be nice if we had somewhere in
hyndburn for our 'a' level students rather than blackburn.

There is a 6th form opening next month at Accrington Academy - so there will be somewhere of 'a' level students in Hyndburn.

claytonender 28-08-2009 13:16

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 739801)
Got that Claytonender ... the LET report made the objection sound a little petty but, put that way, it isn't ... would be a big problem.

Surely not 'most' of the students coming from the Burnley area? One would hope is there mainly for Hyndburn students.

This is a link to the school travel plan produced in November 2007

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/corpora...c.asp?id=42143

This shows how pupils travel to school and how many buses etc there are.

Mariam82 28-08-2009 14:13

re: Planning Applications
 
There will only be `125 places in the new 6th form due for sept 09 - mostly taken from
those on roll from accrington academy itself. I look forward to more choice for other schools when my younger son gets to end year 11. I agree though the traffic wd be as bad as most other schools

claytonender 28-08-2009 14:36

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariam82 (Post 739828)
There will only be `125 places in the new 6th form due for sept 09 - mostly taken from
those on roll from accrington academy itself. I look forward to more choice for other schools when my younger son gets to end year 11. I agree though the traffic wd be as bad as most other schools

But traffic is even worse on this road, because it is a major route to the motor way and the fact that so many pupil travel from outside of Hyndburn to the school. If you read the Travel Plan you will see just how many buses there are and the are that they serve. It was also highlighted in the Travel Plan that there is currently not enough car parking spaces for the members of staff at the school, the plans will only extend the car parking by 13 places.

Also the new building will completely overshadow the house opposite.

I do support more 6th Form provision for the children of Hyndburn, (we should not be creating an educational establishment for the children of Burnley and Pendle) but there needs to be a proper evaluation of the impact that it will have on the surrounding community.

Out of interest, which school does your son attend?

Mariam82 28-08-2009 15:54

re: Planning Applications
 
Yes - see what you mean. Son is at mount carmel - daughter just left so bus to
st marys each day (£380 for the year !)

claytonender 28-08-2009 16:03

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariam82 (Post 739839)
Yes - see what you mean. Son is at mount carmel - daughter just left so bus to
st marys each day (£380 for the year !)

I do agree that it is a problem for Hyndburn children having to go outside the borough for 6th Form education. Can you not get any help towards her bus fares?

Lilly 28-08-2009 20:27

re: Planning Applications
 
Why was there no fuss when Accrington Academy were planning their 6th form, yet there is a lot of opposition to the St Christopher's one? :confused:

katex 28-08-2009 22:31

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 739871)
Why was there no fuss when Accrington Academy were planning their 6th form, yet there is a lot of opposition to the St Christopher's one? :confused:

This is just fuss on planning application Lilly, not the ethics.

Not sure, but would think the curriculum for Accrington Academy will be limited.

claytonender 08-09-2009 17:23

re: Planning Applications
 
The next meeting of the planning committee is on Wednesday 16th September at 11am - this is a link to the agenda http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...16-09-2009.pdf

The items on the agenda are here
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...26-08-2009.pdf

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...l_decision.pdf

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ermination.pdf

katex 17-09-2009 19:04

re: Planning Applications
 
Ya' gotta' laugh at this one ... (I suppose :eek:):-

11/09/0364 Full: Erection of extension to workshop area Champ Funeral Services 170 02/09/2009
to house a cold store Whalley Road Clayton le
Moors Accrington BB5 5DY
Champ Funeral Services

See St. Christophers have re-submitted their application for the 6th form .. have they amended the parking facilities do you know Claytonender ?

jaysay 18-09-2009 10:19

Re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 745811)
Ya' gotta' laugh at this one ... (I suppose :eek:):-

11/09/0364 Full: Erection of extension to workshop area Champ Funeral Services 170 02/09/2009
to house a cold store Whalley Road Clayton le
Moors Accrington BB5 5DY
Champ Funeral Services

See St. Christophers have re-submitted their application for the 6th form .. have they amended the parking facilities do you know Claytonender ?

Could be going into cryogenics kate:D

katex 11-11-2009 20:04

re: Planning Applications
 
Has been really boring lately ... everybody having extensions and conservatories.

Just a few of interest to what is going on in your neighbourhood ... :D

11/09/0455 Full: Erection of single storey extension Clayton-le-Moors Masonic Hall 04/11/2009
and two-storey extension to provide new Whalley Road Clayton le Moors
meeting rooms and improved entrance Accrington
facilities
Mr Alan Johnson


11/09/0407 Full: Change of use from Shop/Offices to Two 38 New Lane Oswaldtwistle 12/10/2009
No. Flats and external alterations Accrington BB5 3PH
Pilkington Bros (Church) Ltd


11/09/0405 LCC Consultation: Full: Construction of a Heys Playing Field Heron Way
05/10/2009
single storey football pavilion including new Oswaldtwistle Accrington
car park, footpath, 2.4m high 2D security
fencing, conversion of existing all weather
pitch to natural grass football pitch and
redraining works to existing pitches
Children & Young People Director


11/09/0397 Full: Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields
28/09/2009
incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street
and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood
vehicle access from Balfour Street
(Resubmission 11/09/0150)
Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers

11/09/0334 Outline application: Erection of 4 No town Land at Mason Street 15/09/2009
houses and 1 No bungalow Oswaldtwistle
Mr M Capstick



1/09/0397 Full: Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields
28/09/2009
incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street
and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood
vehicle access from Balfour Street
(Resubmission 11/09/0150)
Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers



11/09/0442 Full: Change of use from shop with ancillary 104 Burnley Road Accrington 22/10/2009
residential accommodation to hot food Lancs BB5 6DW
take-away (Use Class A5) (ground floor) with
flue to roof outlet (rear elevation) and three
bedroom apartment (first floor and attic) and
erection of dormer to rear
Mr Jamil Hussain

Tealeaf 12-11-2009 08:43

re: Planning Applications
 
Re: the final item, above.

Do we really need yet another takeaway? More junk food, more rubbish on the pavement, more obesity, more food poisoning. I wonder if Hyndburn BC will now be among some of our more enlightened local authorities and adopting a policy of a blanket refusal for all new junk food establishments.

Neil 12-11-2009 10:52

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 762353)
Re: the final item, above.

Do we really need yet another takeaway? More junk food, more rubbish on the pavement, more obesity, more food poisoning. I wonder if Hyndburn BC will now be among some of our more enlightened local authorities and adopting a policy of a blanket refusal for all new junk food establishments.

Should it be down to the Council to Police what we eat - as long as it meets the legal standards of course?

jaysay 12-11-2009 11:02

Re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 762378)
Should it be down to the Council to Police what we eat - as long as it meets the legal standards of course?

Don't fancy roast cockroach miself Neil:D

jaysay 12-11-2009 11:04

Re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 762313)
Has been really boring lately ... everybody having extensions and conservatories.

Just a few of interest to what is going on in your neighbourhood ... :D

11/09/0455 Full: Erection of single storey extension Clayton-le-Moors Masonic Hall 04/11/2009
and two-storey extension to provide new Whalley Road Clayton le Moors
meeting rooms and improved entrance Accrington
facilities
Mr Alan Johnson


11/09/0407 Full: Change of use from Shop/Offices to Two 38 New Lane Oswaldtwistle 12/10/2009
No. Flats and external alterations Accrington BB5 3PH
Pilkington Bros (Church) Ltd


11/09/0405 LCC Consultation: Full: Construction of a Heys Playing Field Heron Way
05/10/2009
single storey football pavilion including new Oswaldtwistle Accrington
car park, footpath, 2.4m high 2D security
fencing, conversion of existing all weather
pitch to natural grass football pitch and
redraining works to existing pitches
Children & Young People Director


11/09/0397 Full: Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields
28/09/2009
incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street
and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood
vehicle access from Balfour Street
(Resubmission 11/09/0150)
Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers

11/09/0334 Outline application: Erection of 4 No town Land at Mason Street 15/09/2009
houses and 1 No bungalow Oswaldtwistle
Mr M Capstick



1/09/0397 Full: Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields
28/09/2009
incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street
and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood
vehicle access from Balfour Street
(Resubmission 11/09/0150)
Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers



11/09/0442 Full: Change of use from shop with ancillary 104 Burnley Road Accrington 22/10/2009
residential accommodation to hot food Lancs BB5 6DW
take-away (Use Class A5) (ground floor) with
flue to roof outlet (rear elevation) and three
bedroom apartment (first floor and attic) and
erection of dormer to rear
Mr Jamil Hussain

Think being in a recession may have something to do with planning being quiet kate:rolleyes:

katex 12-11-2009 17:06

Re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 762381)
Think being in a recession may have something to do with planning being quiet kate:rolleyes:

Yeh, I know .... :p:rolleyes:

Seems football pavillions aren't doing too bad though. :)

jaysay 13-11-2009 09:03

Re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 762429)
Yeh, I know .... :p:rolleyes:

Seems football pavillions aren't doing too bad though. :)

There's always a need for football pavillions kate:D

katex 13-11-2009 10:35

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 762353)
Re: the final item, above.

Do we really need yet another takeaway? More junk food, more rubbish on the pavement, more obesity, more food poisoning. I wonder if Hyndburn BC will now be among some of our more enlightened local authorities and adopting a policy of a blanket refusal for all new junk food establishments.


I know .. LOL. The takeaways have got every exit covered on travel to/from the town centre haven't they ? Didn't think many on Burnley Road though .. not sure. Will be known as Little Rusholme in a bit. Just wonder how they all manage to make 'a do' ? Certainly not the ones in Clayton.

katex 30-11-2009 11:17

re: Planning Applications
 
A couple may be of interest ... will it still be a pub then ?

11/09/0403 Full: Proposed extension to side to form 18/11/2009
function room/restaurant (ground floor) with three apartments at first floor including
internal alterations and two-storey extension
to rear for means of fire escape
Merry England Public House Clayton Street Great Harwood


Mr P Halai


11/09/0475 Conservation area consent: Demolition of Hill Top Home For The Elderly 19/11/2009
former home for elderly and associated
buildings

Manchester Road Accrington

Mr Martyn Ellis

park381 05-12-2009 07:41

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 766270)
A couple may be of interest ... will it still be a pub then ?

11/09/0403 Full: Proposed extension to side to form 18/11/2009
function room/restaurant (ground floor) with three apartments at first floor including
internal alterations and two-storey extension
to rear for means of fire escape
Merry England Public House Clayton Street Great Harwood
Mr P Halai

Nice one kate :s_lol:

katex 05-12-2009 12:35

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767539)
Nice one kate :s_lol:

Sure I don't know what you mean Park .. :rolleyes:http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5108.gif:D

park381 05-12-2009 12:42

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 767598)
Sure I don't know what you mean Park .. :rolleyes:http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5108.gif:D

Ah well :hehetable:hehetable

katex 12-12-2009 23:52

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 762313)


11/09/0442 Full: Change of use from shop with ancillary 104 Burnley Road Accrington 22/10/2009
residential accommodation to hot food Lancs BB5 6DW
take-away (Use Class A5) (ground floor) with
flue to roof outlet (rear elevation) and three
bedroom apartment (first floor and attic) and
erection of dormer to rear
Mr Jamil Hussain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 762353)

Do we really need yet another takeaway? More junk food, more rubbish on the pavement, more obesity, more food poisoning. I wonder if Hyndburn BC will now be among some of our more enlightened local authorities and adopting a policy of a blanket refusal for all new junk food establishments.

Was refused Tealeaf.

Bernard Dawson 13-12-2009 11:34

re: Planning Applications
 
I'm pleased that the application for the takeaway was turned down. I would have thought that we have more than enough takeaways in the centre of town, without the need for one on Burnley Rd.

katex 13-12-2009 11:51

Re: Planning Applications
 
Here is one for you Bernard ... to remind people that the document can be viewed and commented on for the Woodnook/Peel Park area:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...Masterplan.pdf

Bernard Dawson 13-12-2009 12:26

Re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 769550)
Here is one for you Bernard ... to remind people that the document can be viewed and commented on for the Woodnook/Peel Park area:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...Masterplan.pdf


Thanks for that Kate. For anyone who might be interested in the plans for the Burnley Rd area, there's a chance to have a look at the plans this coming Tuesday 15th from 1pm-7pm at the Stanley Club Stanley St.

A similar event for the Woodnook area will be held Wednesday 16th at the Woodnook Centre, again from 1pm-7pm

katex 13-12-2009 13:15

re: Planning Applications
 
The HBC have also improved the search for Planning Applications/Decision Notices .. better than having to keep going in them to find one .. :mosher:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...o_04_12_09.pdf


Hyndburn Borough Council - Planning Applications and Decisions

Maybe they have been there all the time, and I have never noticed them .. :rolleyes::D

katex 20-12-2009 13:29

re: Planning Applications
 
Please don't shoot the messenger . :hidewall:

11/09/0378 Full: Use of land for siting of six mobile
caravans for the Gypsy Community including Oswaldtwistle
erection of toilet block
Land at rear Catlow Hall Street 10/12/2009
Mr A Ward


11/09/0512 Major: Full: Proposed wind farm (23.28 Land at Oswaldtwistle Moor 10/12/2009
hectares) comprising 12 wind turbine South of Haslingden Road
generators, ancillary equipment, on site Oswaldtwistle Accrington
infrastructure and new site access off B6236
(the application includes an Environmental
Statement and a temporary diversion of
footpath 212 during construction)
Energiekontor

Neil 20-12-2009 15:27

re: Planning Applications
 
We have more than enough Gypsy sites around here already.

Tealeaf 21-12-2009 10:33

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 771003)
We have more than enough Gypsy sites around here already.

While they are up there in Ossy,would it not be a good idea for the Germans (Energiekontor) to build the camp for the Gypsies? They have a well documented history for constructing that sort of place...as they say in Germany, "Arbeit Macht Frei."

MargaretR 21-12-2009 10:56

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 771142)
While they are up there in Ossy,would it not be a good idea for the Germans (Energiekontor) to build the camp for the Gypsies? They have a well documented history for constructing that sort of place...as they say in Germany, "Arbeit Macht Frei."

Any camps the germans build will be dismantled by them- just as they started to do with this one
BBC News - Poland police question men over stolen Auschwitz sign

jaysay 21-12-2009 11:23

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 771003)
We have more than enough Gypsy sites around here already.

Thin end of the wedge again:(

Neil 21-12-2009 13:44

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 771142)
While they are up there in Ossy,would it not be a good idea for the Germans (Energiekontor) to build the camp for the Gypsies? They have a well documented history for constructing that sort of place...as they say in Germany, "Arbeit Macht Frei."

I thought they were building a toilet block, not a shower block

katex 22-12-2009 08:46

re: Planning Applications
 
When it says 'siting of six mobile caravans' .. does it mean that different ones will be coming and going or siting six permanently ? :confused:

jaysay 22-12-2009 09:20

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 771286)
When it says 'siting of six mobile caravans' .. does it mean that different ones will be coming and going or siting six permanently ? :confused:

Your guess is as good as mine kate, gypsies are a law unto themselves :rolleyes:

Neil 22-12-2009 10:01

re: Planning Applications
 
Do they have to pay when they park on these sites?

jaysay 22-12-2009 10:45

re: Planning Applications
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 771301)
Do they have to pay when they park on these sites?

Good question Neil, but if this is a private site, which I think it is, maybe they'll have to pay the guy who owns the site


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