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Eeew hek ! More trouble brewing methinks :
11/09/0177 Erection of Retail Store (Class A1) Land at Heys Lane/Station with Road Great Harwood associated car parking, landscaping, access and servicing 12/05/2009 Aldi Stores Ltd |
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The building that Tesco originally put an offer in for, on Burnley road, Clayton, has now got an auction sign on it, so could be more supermarket sweeping going on.
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I'm not a happy bunny ... nothing on the website since period ending 15/5/09 !!
http://planetsmilies.net/kaos-animal...miley-6082.gif Yet, last week in the Observer, they had a list of applications. Did they get them sent by HBC ? Can't see that they visited Scaitliffe House to view. Wasn't much anyway, unless you consider Sparth House applying for a swimming pool. Course you will all know that Tesco's application has now been accepted for Great Harwood ... :( Are the general public being ignored now with regard to up-to-date information ? |
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I think now though there is a slight rise in interest in general applications for the regeneration of our town ... because more information has become available. Years ago ... us working class would not be aware that we could have a say in what the council intended and wouldn't think our voices expressing opinion would have any clout. Now, however, it is there through the media, and through the internet. That is why I am so annoyed that they have not put up any details for weeks !! Someone being sloppy. We do on here, for example, discuss certain intentions of new developments which would not have been so openly displayed in the past. |
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Kate - all councillors get a list of planning applications (which have been submitted that week) emailed to them weekly. If you give me your email address in a PM - I will send you copies of the emails from w/e 15/05/09)
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Great Claytonender ... will do .. but I will copy it on here. Still does not excuse the Planning Department though for the length of time since the last ones were put on their website. Had been set up as a public service which is not being fulfilled, and now taking up your precious time to do what you suggest. |
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And as for the drug rehabilitation centre Kate they know objections are going to be nearly zilch cos hardly any residents at present. Makes me wonder if the new developments backers are going to be best pleased at getting planning permission spending money on re-developing then having this put on the doorstep of the properties.
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Their is one letter of objection in the Observer Bernie ... don't know whether you have seen it from an elderly couple who live opposite the proposed site. They feel because the site is more isolated than the original suggestion of Avenue Parade, there will not be as much supervision ordered on Paradise Street/Eagle Street where there is not even a CCTV camera. They already have experiences of large boozing parties on their back drive. |
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Hope you got the copies of the planning applications that I emailed you. I was about to email the planning dept to ask when the website would be uptodate - but when I checked the website I noticed that the reports were there but in the wrong order.
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Suppose I owe the Planning Department an apology. Got your E-mail and have replied to thank you for your prompt attention. Lots of improvements to houses still reflecting the reluctance of people to move house. Just these two are of interest:- 11/09/0201 Outlined Application: Erection of a 12,000 Land off Red Shell Lane 11/06/2009 bird, free range egg production, unit Oswaldtwistle Accrington BB5 3RW Mr William Holden Not sure whether I would like to be near it ... cluck, cluck.:D and of course:- 11/09/0232 Erection of three-storey sixth form centre St. Christopher's C of E High School Queens Road on existing games court, with associated West 10/06/2009 landscaping, parking and access from Accrington BB5 4AY Queen's Road West Mrs Pam Haralambos Long overdue, but not keen on it being linked to a church school despite their reassurances will have no affect on non C of E children who wish to attend. Quote:
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Thanks Claytonender for sending me the weekly applications.
Sure the Stanley fans are aware of this one.. :D 11/09/0279 Retention for a temporary period until 20th June 2010 of ground control room at first Stanley floor level with access stairway and screen fencing and including external alterations Accrington Crown Ground Livingstone Road Accrington 30/06/2009 Mr Rob Heys\ASFC 11/09/0227 Installation of a 4.8m high Ornamental Clock within community garden area Rishton Blackburn BB1 4LA (Regulation 3) Land at Parker Street Gardens 26/06/2009 Rishton Area Council Sounds good. 11/09/0254 The siting of a steel storage container for Peel Park School Community Primary Alice Street Accrington 17/06/2009 outdoor sports equipment and erection of 2 School canopies within the play ground Children and Young People Directorate 11/09/0236 Erection of single storey swimming pool The Laurels 243 Manchester 15/06/2009 Road Accrington BB5 2PF Mr Anthony Helliwell Gotta' admire this guy his persistency. Notice in the Observer that the LCC have given notice of application for planning permission for the new bus station on Crawshaw Street ... good. |
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Also, I love the idea of a civic square to replace the old one ... think this will encourage more people to go into this area besides the passing pedestrian traffic going for the bus. Even you, where your stall is, must admit is a very dark oppressive, carbon emissions filled little corridor which isn't pleasant to walk along. Will be so much nicer when it is more open and light. I think it will only increase visitors to your business. Now, why do you think the bus station should stay where it is then ? |
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We need a purpose built bus station. Peel St was never a bus station. Peel St is just a street that happened to have stops on it.
And there is a difference between what we have now in my opinion, and a proper bus station. It's also got to be in the right place of course. |
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Crawshaw Street is hardly ideal for the elderly or people with mobility problems, it is a fair walk in these circumstances.
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We are a very small centre and don't have to walk very far to get to any of the shops. If you consider where bus stations at Burnley and Blackburn are ... then visitors have much further to walk. |
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But the buses stop outside both Blackburn and Burnley markets more or less, are there going to be stops nearer to our market?
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How far will a disabled shopper walk whilst going around town though Bernie... a lot further than the hop from Crawshaw Street to the shops. You can argue that it will be nearer the Arndale if that is shoppers' preference. What happens when they go home and get to their bus stop ... surely will have much further to walk with heavy shopping ?... buses aren't door-to-door.
I think the civil square will also open better pedestrian flow to Little Blackburn Road, Peel Street, Infant Street, and any shops on the other side of the square. Certainly, will not be put off by all the buses up and down Peel Street ... 'tis a nightmare crossing there. |
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Attachment 14179 Ignore the cherry blossom, would only happen in May ... LOL. We cannot miss this opportunity of a new bus station, as would provide an excellent and more pleasant point of arrival to any visitors :- http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environ...%20summary.pdf |
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I know, I know ... at it again .. :)
11/09/0312 Erection of replacement single storey Former Cliffe Brickworks off 20/07/2009 Aviary/Bird Hospital (Resubmission Cliffe Lane Great Harwood 11/08/0358) Mr Peter Wall Is a rebsubmission, turned down due to green belt and laying of hard surface, building and car parking affecting the appearance and visually intrusive outlook. Aaah . bird hospital. 11/09/0317 Full : Change of use of Public House to 181 Blackburn Road 22/07/2009 Retail Shop with living accommodation, Accrington BB5 0AF installation of shop front, siting of new entrance door and erection of single storey kitchen extension at rear Mrs M Masood Which pub was this ? 11/09/0319 Erection of 60 metre high meteorogical mast Land on Oswaldtwistle Moor 22/07/2009 for up to a 36 months period Oswaldtwistle Energiekontor UK Ltd Eeew hek, lots of objections coming through already. 11/09/0311 Incorporation of land into residential Land to rear of Blossom 17/07/2009 curtilages of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, Avenue Oswaldtwistle 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32 and 34 Blossom Accrington BB5 0FD Avenue and erection of boundary fencing The Residents of Resident of ? 11/09/0295 Change of use from Snooker Club to Use Class Elite Snooker Club Jacob 09/07/2009 D1 non residential education and training Street Accrington BB5 1HU centre including reinstatement of built up window openings, replacement of roof structures and first floor extension to existing garage with link to main building to form teaching block (Total 2082m2) North Lancs Training Group Another one bites the dust. 2 At paragraph 15 the Inspector concludes “I have found the Council’s decision to set aside the views of the previous Inspector, and its failure to provide evidence to back up its decision, to be unreasonable. I consider that together these actions have resulted in abortive work leading to unnecessary cost, and I conclude that a full award of costs be made” The appellant has now submitted a claim for a full award of costs and this is for £1950. This has been checked and is in the process of being paid. This has implications for the Planning service as there is no specific budget for dealing with such matters. Whilst the Planning Committee is fully entitled to make decisions that are contrary to officer recommendation members are asked to note that costs will likely be awarded in the event that the comments of previous Inspectors are not fully taken into account as part of the decision making process. Given that applicants can now apply for costs for any type of planning appeal (written representations, hearings and Inquiries) it is imperative that decisions are robust, sound and backed up by policies and above all that decision making is reasonable. Looks like the Planning Committe got their financial hands slapped here. Without going into too much detail .. was to do with not making a decision in time and informing the applicant, therefore causing him costs due to the hold up. Was Northlands, Park Road, Great Harwood re. drive and access. |
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The pub was The Oak Tree Kate:)
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181, Blackburn Road is probably on the right going into Accrington ... maybe not long before you get to the viaduct. ? Bernie ? Do you think you got it wrong, and maybe the Globe or summat ? Or was there 2 Oak Trees ? |
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Talking about Blackburn Road ... noted that an appeal was dismissed for a Hot Food takeaway . maybe the council care about the safety on Blackburn Road after all .. :)
RECENT APPEAL DECISION Purpose of Report The attached report advises members of recent appeal decision. RECOMMENDED that: Members note the report. Planning Application 11/08/0350 Change of use from offices to hot food takeaway with office accommodation above 203 Blackburn Road, Accrington, BB5 OAF Officer Recommendation: Refusal Delegated Decision Planning appeal dismissed. 1 This appeal was dealt with by written representations and was dismissed on 22nd June 2009 2 The Inspector concluded that the “proposed development would materially reduce highway safety on Blackburn Road”. |
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Eh hek Bernie, not sure at all ... will have to ask Less or Mick to see what is at 181 on their daily stroll to The Railway (notice I have said 'on' as opposed to 'back' :D).
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The Oaktree is 438 B'Burn road Accrington and is very near the border with Church. Looks like it has been converted to an Off License.:theband: |
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Yep the Oak Tree is an off licence now:)
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We'll blame Steeljack shall we ? ... :D |
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181 is the Globe next to the last orders its on the other side from glynn webs
The Oak tree is 438 is near the garage on Blackburn road at the Church end |
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Thanks Mick and Benipete, and Bernie too.
So settled then Steeljack ... only one Oak Tree near to the border of Church ... notice you asked about the Globe in another thread, now you know what is happening to it. |
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The Oak Tree was virtually next door to the Queen's/Tudor, but not sure after all this time just where the boundary was?
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The Aldi application at Great Harwood was recommended for refusal, wonder if this is what happened at today's planning meeting ? There is a link below (bit long) if you wish to see why .. have to scroll down :
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Working with Aldi's marketing dept I submitted a positive plea on behalf of residents who will be living close to this store and supposedly this was addressed by the Chair of the planning committee although I haven't heard what the outcome has been as yet!!
i hope we get it, in fact they can sack tesco off for me and just have the aldis...although if both go ahead I do think it will be the death of Co-op unless they bring their prices down dramatically |
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well the planning has been passed for the aldi store
see excerpt from Email I have received.. I can let you know that (despite the planning officers recommendation to refuse on grounds of need) the planning committee (your locally elected councillors) took a different view – and decided to approve this application. Therefore – I hope you will be pleased that Aldi will be coming to Great Harwood! The committee’s decision was certainly helped by local residents letting Aldi know their supportive views in the first place, and then contacting/emailing local councillors. Also a local resident spoke at committee as a local resident in support of the proposal – and a number of other local residents also turned up. This all really helped. As a result, I’m sure you (and other local residents who supported this scheme) will be pleased to see/learn that local democracy in Hyndburn Council really does work – and cllrs made their own minds up on the day. Please contact me if you require any further information, but as stated I will get a letter out to all residents who have expressed an interest – so all are updated. Thanks again for your help with this. Well I am pleased about it :) |
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Wow ! thanks HR ... that is a turn for the books.
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11/09/0333 Full : Change of use from PCT Resource Centre to a Drugs & Alcohol Resource Centre
and installation of additional door to front elevation. Eagle Street House 33 Eagle Street Accrington BB5 1LN 05/08/2009 East Lancs PCT Well, there it is. 11/09/0306 Full Application: Change of use from A1 12 - 14 Union Street Accrington 27/07/2009 (Retail) to A2 (Book Makers) including the installation of 4 satellite dishes and air conditioning units Paddy Power PLC 11/09/0307 Advert Application: Installation of 2 No 12 - 14 Union Street Accrington 27/07/2009 internally illuminated fascia signs Paddy Power PLC They appear to be doing OK. |
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I posted about the drug and alcohol plans weeks ago, has it been passed? Mind you it is bound to not enough residents in the area to object.
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link to the agenda for next Wednesday's planning meeting (it is held at Scaitcliffe House at 11am)
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Thanks Claytonener, must admit thought this one was in the bag :
Accrington sixth form plans delayed over traffic fears (From Lancashire Telegraph) Still, expect the school runners will be expected to drop their kids off by car until they are 18, so back to plan 'B' I guess for the traffic planners. |
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The highways issue is really horrendous and hate to think what the extra pupils would mean, also there are only another 13 car parking spaces in the plans. The schools travel plan (produced in November 2007) states that car parking is a problem. The fact that most of the pupil come from outside the borough (Burnley, Nelson, Fence, Barrowford) makes 'green travel' impossible. The school also intends to have night classes and as the nearest public transport at night is at the junction of Queens Road West and Whalley Road, all the evening students will be using cars to access the building. The other issue is the siting of the building within the site - a 3 story building over 20 metres high will overshadow the houses on Queens Road West and result in a loss of privacy etc, not to mention the disruption of people and traffic coming and going from 8am to possibly 11pm. The building could be sited in another location on the site but the head wants it to be a 'Statement', so wants it on the Queens Road West site. |
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Got that Claytonender ... the LET report made the objection sound a little petty but, put that way, it isn't ... would be a big problem.
Surely not 'most' of the students coming from the Burnley area? One would hope is there mainly for Hyndburn students. |
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This is to be a learning establishment and will not be competing in the architectural design of the year award - or will it:rolleyes: |
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Can see the argument about traffic - but it would be nice if we had somewhere in
hyndburn for our 'a' level students rather than blackburn. |
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http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/corpora...c.asp?id=42143 This shows how pupils travel to school and how many buses etc there are. |
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There will only be `125 places in the new 6th form due for sept 09 - mostly taken from
those on roll from accrington academy itself. I look forward to more choice for other schools when my younger son gets to end year 11. I agree though the traffic wd be as bad as most other schools |
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Also the new building will completely overshadow the house opposite. I do support more 6th Form provision for the children of Hyndburn, (we should not be creating an educational establishment for the children of Burnley and Pendle) but there needs to be a proper evaluation of the impact that it will have on the surrounding community. Out of interest, which school does your son attend? |
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Yes - see what you mean. Son is at mount carmel - daughter just left so bus to
st marys each day (£380 for the year !) |
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Why was there no fuss when Accrington Academy were planning their 6th form, yet there is a lot of opposition to the St Christopher's one? :confused:
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The next meeting of the planning committee is on Wednesday 16th September at 11am - this is a link to the agenda http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...16-09-2009.pdf
The items on the agenda are here http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...26-08-2009.pdf http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...l_decision.pdf http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ermination.pdf |
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Ya' gotta' laugh at this one ... (I suppose :eek:):-
11/09/0364 Full: Erection of extension to workshop area Champ Funeral Services 170 02/09/2009 to house a cold store Whalley Road Clayton le Moors Accrington BB5 5DY Champ Funeral Services See St. Christophers have re-submitted their application for the 6th form .. have they amended the parking facilities do you know Claytonender ? |
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Has been really boring lately ... everybody having extensions and conservatories.
Just a few of interest to what is going on in your neighbourhood ... :D 11/09/0455 Full: Erection of single storey extension Clayton-le-Moors Masonic Hall 04/11/2009 and two-storey extension to provide new Whalley Road Clayton le Moors meeting rooms and improved entrance Accrington facilities Mr Alan Johnson 11/09/0407 Full: Change of use from Shop/Offices to Two 38 New Lane Oswaldtwistle 12/10/2009 No. Flats and external alterations Accrington BB5 3PH Pilkington Bros (Church) Ltd 11/09/0405 LCC Consultation: Full: Construction of a Heys Playing Field Heron Way 05/10/2009 single storey football pavilion including new Oswaldtwistle Accrington car park, footpath, 2.4m high 2D security fencing, conversion of existing all weather pitch to natural grass football pitch and redraining works to existing pitches Children & Young People Director 11/09/0397 Full: Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields 28/09/2009 incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood vehicle access from Balfour Street (Resubmission 11/09/0150) Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers 11/09/0334 Outline application: Erection of 4 No town Land at Mason Street 15/09/2009 houses and 1 No bungalow Oswaldtwistle Mr M Capstick 1/09/0397 Full: Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields 28/09/2009 incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood vehicle access from Balfour Street (Resubmission 11/09/0150) Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers 11/09/0442 Full: Change of use from shop with ancillary 104 Burnley Road Accrington 22/10/2009 residential accommodation to hot food Lancs BB5 6DW take-away (Use Class A5) (ground floor) with flue to roof outlet (rear elevation) and three bedroom apartment (first floor and attic) and erection of dormer to rear Mr Jamil Hussain |
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Re: the final item, above.
Do we really need yet another takeaway? More junk food, more rubbish on the pavement, more obesity, more food poisoning. I wonder if Hyndburn BC will now be among some of our more enlightened local authorities and adopting a policy of a blanket refusal for all new junk food establishments. |
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Seems football pavillions aren't doing too bad though. :) |
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I know .. LOL. The takeaways have got every exit covered on travel to/from the town centre haven't they ? Didn't think many on Burnley Road though .. not sure. Will be known as Little Rusholme in a bit. Just wonder how they all manage to make 'a do' ? Certainly not the ones in Clayton. |
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A couple may be of interest ... will it still be a pub then ?
11/09/0403 Full: Proposed extension to side to form 18/11/2009 function room/restaurant (ground floor) with three apartments at first floor including internal alterations and two-storey extension to rear for means of fire escape Merry England Public House Clayton Street Great Harwood Mr P Halai 11/09/0475 Conservation area consent: Demolition of Hill Top Home For The Elderly 19/11/2009 former home for elderly and associated buildings Manchester Road Accrington Mr Martyn Ellis |
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I'm pleased that the application for the takeaway was turned down. I would have thought that we have more than enough takeaways in the centre of town, without the need for one on Burnley Rd.
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Here is one for you Bernard ... to remind people that the document can be viewed and commented on for the Woodnook/Peel Park area:
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Thanks for that Kate. For anyone who might be interested in the plans for the Burnley Rd area, there's a chance to have a look at the plans this coming Tuesday 15th from 1pm-7pm at the Stanley Club Stanley St. A similar event for the Woodnook area will be held Wednesday 16th at the Woodnook Centre, again from 1pm-7pm |
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The HBC have also improved the search for Planning Applications/Decision Notices .. better than having to keep going in them to find one .. :mosher:
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...o_04_12_09.pdf Hyndburn Borough Council - Planning Applications and Decisions Maybe they have been there all the time, and I have never noticed them .. :rolleyes::D |
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Please don't shoot the messenger . :hidewall:
11/09/0378 Full: Use of land for siting of six mobile caravans for the Gypsy Community including Oswaldtwistle erection of toilet block Land at rear Catlow Hall Street 10/12/2009 Mr A Ward 11/09/0512 Major: Full: Proposed wind farm (23.28 Land at Oswaldtwistle Moor 10/12/2009 hectares) comprising 12 wind turbine South of Haslingden Road generators, ancillary equipment, on site Oswaldtwistle Accrington infrastructure and new site access off B6236 (the application includes an Environmental Statement and a temporary diversion of footpath 212 during construction) Energiekontor |
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We have more than enough Gypsy sites around here already.
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When it says 'siting of six mobile caravans' .. does it mean that different ones will be coming and going or siting six permanently ? :confused:
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Do they have to pay when they park on these sites?
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