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Looks that way, I like this "and restore the site" :rolleyes:

Wonder how much petromex have made out of the deal ;) Is this the same company Petromex (worth having a look at - supplies all "major" brands) and supermarkets ?

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katex, is Whinney Hill a working quarry? I remember it as derelict when I was a boy but I also remember there were hundreds of ready dressed stone flags left there- worth a fortune.
If it pays to import stone from India it must be worth developing Whinney Hill!

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It pays to import anything from India these days.
The company Park Royal are working the quarry

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Not sure, Gordon ... that's why I was asking if it was being opened up again ?

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Park Royal seem to be working out of there

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St JAMES CHURCH, Cannon Street, ACCRINGTON

NEXT Sat, FEB 4TH, there is to be a "coffee and chat", morning in the church, where plans of work to be carried out are on display.... the doors open at 10.00am.
Could be interesting!

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Is this the work in the grounds, Atarah, or inside the building ?

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Hi, all I know is that the Church is to be opened and plans can be seen, but, believe its only for external work. You gonna go?

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If it had been the plans for the internal work I might have gone for a look, as its for the external plans and I already have copies of them so I doubt I will go.

Are you going? The plans look good and being the only green area in town I hope the project is successful.

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Good to see new plans for development in this area:

Application No:11/12/0035Registration Date:01 Feb 2012Location:LAND AT WITHIN GROVE ACCRINGTONDevelopment:MAJOR FULL: ERECTION OF 29 NO DWELLINGS

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:D

Application No:11/12/0099 Registration Date:20 Mar 2012 Location:HAWORTH PARK AND ART GALLERY HOLLINS LANE ACCRINGTON Development:LBC: Reinstatement of gates to existing openings, installation of boundary fence, installation of ornate fencing and gates within park boundary to create out door theatre/events with integral vehicle access gates

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Could someone please confirm if this will be Accy's first onion:

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This is going to be three floors high, so it will be clearly visible from Hyndburn road - the main gateway into town. It will, of course be topped by the planned one opposite ASDA if that does go ahead.

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140 Whalley Road, Accrington.

I am truly AMAZED as to why this lovely looking property was given Planning Permission to be DEMOLISHED. Anyone know why?
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In particular read the bit that says 19th Oct BACKGROUND PAPERS, this shows a photograph of the house that was once there.

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I was initially confused as your post states 140 Whalley Road but the planning application is for 270 Whalley Road. Looks as though the house has been empty and dilapidated for some time. There may be structural problems, dry rot etc. and the building is not listed so there are no restraints on its being demolished.

Presumably the applicant prefers a modern house with four ensuites and an additional bathroom downstairs.

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I would just have thought anyone wanting "a modern house with 4 ensuites and an additional bathroom downstairs would have bought such a property" without all the upheaval of demolishing and re-building.

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Depends what area they want to live in and how much it cost to buy the site and demolish/rebuild. Also by doing this they would have more say in the individual design. Each to his own.

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Looks like it . The first one and more than likely more to follow

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R.I.P. 270, Whalley Road. Gone already ! :(

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Hurrah! You're back! You have been missed! Welcome back Mrs Planning Applications! :-)

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Some recent Planning Applications that could be of interest :

Application No:11/12/0227 Registration Date:14 Jun 2012 Location:ACCRINGTON BAPTIST CHURCH CANNON STREET ACCRINGTON Development:Full: Change of use from D1 place of worship to D2 gymnasium

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Did have doubts on this outline Planning myself, was turned down due to parking problems:

Application No:11/12/0164 Registration Date:02 May 2012 Location:ROYAL OAK PUBLIC HOUSE SPARTH ROAD CLAYTON LE MOORS Development:OUTLINE APPLICATION:RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
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Causing some consternation amongst some members of the community hoping that it will not deflect from the architecture of this old building:

Application No:11/12/0231 Registration Date:14 Jun 2012 Location:PEEL STREET BAPTIST CHURCH PEEL STREET ACCRINGTON BB5 1HB Development:Full: Alteration of external access steps and changes to front elevation (Resubmission of 11/12/0003)
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Objections from residents due to parking,but the Highway report does not agree:

Application No:11/12/0187 Registration Date:18 May 2012 Location:ALL GAS FIREPLACES AND APPLIANCES 15 HIGH STREET RISHTON Development:CHANGE OF USE FROM A1 RETAIL TO A3 FISH AND CHIP RESTAURANT.

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See The Bridge Inn at Church had submitted a further PA ... but was withdrawn.

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Objections on health grounds ..... mmm .... not so sure will have any clout.
Resubmission. Turned down original (11/11/0393) as follows:

'The installation of 3no. antennae onto the tower of the Grade II Listed St Andrew's Church at a height of 15m and in close proximity to residential properties, would be harmful to the special architectural and historic features of the church tower and detriment of visual amenities of the area. '

Application No:11/12/0200 Registration Date:24 May 2012 Location:ST ANDREWS CHURCH EMPRESS STREET ACCRINGTON Development:Full: Installation of 6 antennas behind the louvres and place new electrical equipment into the church tower (resubmission 11/11/0393)

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A very thorough Planning Application after problems in the past.
Morris Homes appear to have covered every angle.

Application No:11/12/0288 Registration Date:20 Jul 2012 Location:PEEL FOLD MILL STANHILL ROAD OSWALDTWISTLE Development:FULL MAJOR:ERECTION OF 36NO TWO STOREY DWELLINGS WITH ASSOCIATED ACCESS AND LANDSCAPING.

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Awwww, how sad.

Application No:11/12/0298 Registration Date:26 Jul 2012 Location:BARNES SQUARE METHODIST CHURCH BARNES SQUARE CLAYTON LE MOORS Development:PRIOR NOTIFICATION (28 DAYS) DEMOLITION OF BUILDING.

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Although posted in another thread, thought worth it to put in the Planning thread too:

Application No:11/12/0283 Registration Date:13 Jul 2012 Location:WALKER FARRIMOND GARAGE SYDNEY STREET ACCRINGTON Development:Full: Change of use from garages showroom and workshops to community centre place of worship and conference venue

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Application approved :

'Objections on health grounds ..... mmm .... not so sure will have any clout.
Resubmission. Turned down original (11/11/0393) as follows:

'The installation of 3no. antennae onto the tower of the Grade II Listed St Andrew's Church at a height of 15m and in close proximity to residential properties, would be harmful to the special architectural and historic features of the church tower and detriment of visual amenities of the area. '

Application No:11/12/0200 Registration Date:24 May 2012 Location:ST ANDREWS CHURCH EMPRESS STREET ACCRINGTON Development:Full: Installation of 6 antennas behind the louvres and place new electrical equipment into the church tower (resubmission 11/11/0393)'

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Awww .. like this:

Application No:11/12/0322 Registration Date:15 Aug 2012 Location:MASONIC HALL ALBERT STREET OSWALDTWISTLE Development:CHANGE OF USE FROM MASONIC HALL (D1) TO CHILDREN'S OVERNIGHT RESPITE UNIT AND ACTIVITY CENTRE FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES.

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Has the global confeence centre in Oswaldtwistle closed down?.Was just looking at commercial properties and land for sale and found it is up for sale with trevor dawson for residential developement.

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This is absolute pure speculation, but could be connected with the application for the Walker, Farrimond building in Accrington.

Think is the same 'church'.

Could be selling off to pay for this new enterprise i.e. if the Global Centre land belongs to them ?

Again, please take as speculation, not fact.

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Application No:11/12/0370 Registration Date:20 Sep 2012 Location:14 CHURCH STREET ACCRINGTON Development:CHANGE OF USE OF FIRST FLOOR FROM RESTAURANT TO BAR, INSTALLATION OF NEW SHOP FRONT TO GROUND FLOOR INSTALLATION OF EXTERNAL STAIR TO FIRST FLOOR AT REAR OF PROPERTY.

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Shame this went, but here is a proposed usage :

Application No:11/12/0377 Registration Date:21 Sep 2012 Location:FORMER HOUSEHOLD WASTE RECYCLING CENTRE HEYS LANE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE ALAN RAMSBOTTOM WAY GREAT HARWOOD Development:LCC CONSULTATION: CHANGE OF USE OF FORMER HOUSEHOLD WASTER RECYCLING CENTRE TO TRAVEL CARE VEHICLE DEPOT INCLUDING SITING OF WELFARE PORTACABIN.
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Disabled access to the take away, what about the first floor bar, how do disabled get up there, no disabled toilets at first floor level either.............throw the application out !! :D

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Hi, Park .. where you bin ?

Hawkeye, hahaha .. good to have someone comment on this thread.
Think members look though. ;)

Maybe, the toilets shown (just one for each sex), could be installed on a disabled facility ?
Do they have to have one, as well as access for them to upstairs ?

Goes off to Google this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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No I don't think so, disabled toilets are to be a certain size to allow wheel chairs and chair turning circle. The plans only show stair access to the first floor...............a case of disabled discrimination I think :D

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Lots of info on the net about accessible toilets sizes etc if you have them (Part M of building regs) but nothing I could find about whether toilets and upstairs access have to be provided or not. Too difficult to generalise I suppose and not enshrined in law.

As for access to first floor - would be difficult and expensive to fit a lift in most small premises so not an option and so most disabled would be limited to ground floor anyway unless helped upstairs.

PS A "disabled toilet" is one which is broken. An "accessible toilet" is available for use. Plans and signs should be marked accordingly.

buildings - toilets

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Heres one always snecks at what yeh put here. But as yeh know i'm a man of few words.;)

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Your far to modest Cashy. :hidewall::hidewall::D:D:hidewall::hidewall:

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Ground floor is only a "take away"(level access to purchase goods) but the first floor is to be a bar (open to the public or just for the owners use?)

Disability and the Equality Act 2010 : Directgov - Disabled people

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I know, Cashy. All part of your 'inquisitive' nature.. :D:D

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Above been withdrawn.

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Today I have received a letter from LCC which advises nearby residents of a planning application for alterations to the grounds of Hippings School (half way up Heron Way Osw).


Planning Application Display - 11/12/0382

"Car Park Extension:
There are currently 8No. parking spaces including 1No. disabled parking bay and a designated loading area.
There are currently 24No. staff members who drive to work on a regular basis since they are not locally based.
There are car parking restrictions immediately adjacent to the school grounds due to private resident parking and highway restrictions.
Staff members park within the school car park but tend to double park and park on the access road which causes difficulties with deliveries and removal of refuse. As a consequence of the restricted space for delivery vehicles etc. the surrounding grass and landscaped areas are driven over and are damaged on a regular basis. "

So the parking spaces for staff are doubled to 16 (but will be 8 short of what are needed), and an additional small tarmaced play area will be constructed for use of 1st year pupils.

So Heron Way will again be invaded with heavy construction vehicles - excavation/levelling of a grassed slope is required for the car park.

I appreciate that 'on street' parking problems will be slightly improved by these works, and hope this is the last of the noisy disruption that nearby residents have suffered for the past two years whilst the football pavilion was built.

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Thats good news for the school but its a shame they cant make the car park bigger than they need to allow for further expansion while they are doing it.

They need to drop some of those trees around the car park while they are at it in my opinion.

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The new site for 8 parking places is on the south eastern (long) side of the building, well away from any trees.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Osw...d+Kingdom&z=19

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Ahem .... :)

Application No:11/12/0397 Registration Date:05 Oct 2012 Location:SOUTHAMS CAR SALES 23 MILSHAW LANE ACCRINGTON Development:CHANGE OF USE FROM CAR SALES (A1) TO HOT FOOD TAKEAWAY (A5) ELEVATIONAL CHANGES AND INSTALLATION OF NEW SHOP FRONT.
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Hope this means they will be getting on soon with the new shop front .. a real eyesore :

Application No:11/12/0396 Registration Date:05 Oct 2012 Location:POST OFFICE 38 PICKUP STREET CLAYTON LE MOORS Development:ADVERTISEMENT APPLICATION:INSTALLATION OF ATM.

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Another sodding takeaway, summat accys really in need of.:rolleyes:

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Peel Holdings strike back after the defeat in the high court. Just been down there picking up a bargin from "comet fire damage sale".......what do you think an unauthorised development at the peel holdings retail park. They have opened up the area in front of the ex "focus" building as a caravan park, even though peel holding have installed a 2.1 metre high barrier across the road to stop high vehicles gaining access and using the area as a driving tuition centre, our friends have managed to get on there. question is will peel holdings approach HBC for support in removing the travellers after they suffered defeat in the high court in their efforts to expand the retail park, could be well worth watching developments in the LET. :D

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Seem to have employed fancy architects, but think it's a no no, will cause major problems with noise, and car parking as per the lcc report......thumbs down to this one. :niet:

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Yes, think you are right, Park ... report from LCC Highways not good. Can't understand a chain like Dominoes (who you say have commissioned some fancy architects) not addressing this as an initial feature... :confused:

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We will have to wait and see, may by the planning officers will say no, but who knows what the planning committee will do. It has happened before officers have recommended refusal but the committee have said yes :confused:

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At least someone is determined to make use of this building... :thumbsup:

Location:MERRIE ENGLAND PUBLIC HOUSE 54-56 ST HUBERTS ROAD GREAT HARWOOD Development:OUTLINE: DEMOLITION OF PUBLIC HOUSE AND ERECTION OF EIGHT APARTMENTS (SIX ONE BED AND TWO 2 BED) WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING (ACCESS, APPEARANCE, LAYOUT AND SCALE APPLIED FOR).

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More apartments :confused:

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Yes, seems to be a popular development. Don't know if they are selling/renting well though.

Here is another small one ... flats already in that building:

Application No:11/12/0467 Registration Date:14 Nov 2012 Location:APPLEBYS ACCOUNTANTS EMPIRE HOUSE EDGAR STREET ACCRINGTON BB5 1PT Development:Full: Change of use from offices to 4 self-contained flats

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Here is the reason why -
I want to be alone: the rise and rise of solo living | Life and style | The Guardian
Lonely Britain: A MILLION more people now live on their own than in 1996 | Mail Online
"Almost 2.5m aged 45-64 have no spouse, partner or children living with them
Amount has grown 50% since the mid 1990s
Number of loners has pushed up demand for housing"

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Good point, Margaret.

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Looks a good application, car parking included :)

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PP has been refused ...

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...df&pageCount=1

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That's good :alright:

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The reasons made me laugh. HBC need to start enforcing some of those parking and road use strategies in other areas. How about the businesses on Harvey Street Ossy blocking the road or the obvious one of Blackburn Road shops with cars parking on the footpath?

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I will go along with that one, Harvey Street is getting beyond a joke, when someone gets knocked down something will get done. I thought it was an offence to double park and to sell cars from the footpath.
Blackburn Road is just as bad some people seem to do as they please. Must admit the block paved areas in front of the shops has made nice car parks for some

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Can understand the Parking aspect, however, this puzzled me as quite a way from any residential property.

Most take-aways have little or no parking areas either ?

Would think a chain like Dominoes would be very welcome as, I believe, their pizzas are very good, and would attract flow into town (even during the day).
Ok ... realise they have to abide by our planning rules.

'2 The establishment of a hot food take-away in this area would result in a loss of residential
amenity by virtue of noise, disturbance, smell and litter'

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These applications make interesting reading, they are all for "small scale" wind turbines, the farms are in the shadows of our new visitor attraction on ossy moor, an attraction that can be viewed from pendle hill.
11/12/0179 lower westall lot farm - decided - refused
11/12/0383 higher bold venture farm - decided - refused
11/12/0433 brewer lot farm - current.
The MOD have objected to all three applications - the reason being that all the proposed wind turbine installations would be 36.6km, 32.322km, & 33km away from "line of sight" from the ATC Radar at Warton.
There is no MOD comments on the visitor attraction (wind farm) application, is it possible they forgot or have they not objected.......:confused: because I am sure they must be very near "line of sight" to the Warton ATC Radar if the small scale farm ones are, or is that one OK because it will be making big bucks for someone

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I think it is the last thing you mentioned....they are making someone a lot of dosh.

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There is no residential property on the showroom side but there is on the other side, what used to be the workshop part a narrow street with houses directly facing

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I am sure you are correct there Margaret someone has done their sums. It is estimated that each turbine will produce 7.2millon kW per year x by 12 the number of turbines and we have an estimated 86.4 million kW per year generated payments estimated at:-
1. A generation tariff = 0.49p per kW (for producing green energy)
2. An export tariff (what they put back in to the grid) in this case it is the whole lot = 0.47p per kW
That is a lot of money for the investors est. £83 million per year, life span of turbines = 20 years work that one out for yourself but it is a lot of money and who is paying............not hm.gov, not the banks...............but you and I in increased gas and electric charges to pay for this "green" energy :thumbsup:

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Yes, I know.......it really puts my blood pressure up.
Especially as these monstrosities are so ineffectual in producing the amount of energy that is needed......and they blight the landscape too(though I know some people think they look beautiful).
We have been sold a 'lemon' with these hideous things.......and in years to come we will realise this.

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Has the penny not dropped wi yeh yet? Blackburn Rd has been a No-Go area fer donkeys years regards police or HBC taking any action.:rolleyes::mad:

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Don't know whether this consultation is of any interest. Know there are objections recently about the smell, so not sure if it relates or anything.

Application No:11/12/0482 Registration Date:22 Nov 2012 Location:SITA UK LTD WHINNEY HILL ROAD ACCRINGTON BB5 5EN Development:LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL CONSULTATION: CONSTRUCTION OF LEACHATE PLAN TO INCLUDE THE ERECTION OF 10 STORAGE TANKS, A METHANE STRIPPING PLANT AND ASSOCIATED ABOVE LCC CONSULTATION: GROUND PIPEWORK. REGRADING WORKS TO INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF BUNDS AND

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Find this application a little strange, just a back street down there. Used to play 'Rin, Tin,Tin around that little block as a girl... :D


What will the address be ? Just 'Off Penny House Lane' as per the application ?


Application No:11/12/0485 Registration Date:22 Nov 2012 Location:FORMER WORKSHOP OFF PENNYHOUSE LANE ACCRINGTON Development:FULL: CHANGE OF USE FROM A FORMER WORKSHOP INTO 1 NO DWELLING



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Here is the application for the new bus station:

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Well that was in July 2011, I passed the house today Wednesday 10th April 2013, we still have the detached singlt storey building, but it's now attached via a 2 storey "side" extension up to roof level and fitted out with windows.
The project is nothing like the planning application drawings. Whoever the Architect or Surveyor is he / she must know what is being built, may be there are 2 sets of plans, 1 for hyndburn council and 1 for the builder. Come on hyndburn planning enforcement section, sort it out. All I can say is that I am glad I do not live next door. :confused:

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Where is this Park ?

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Haslingden Old Road - Knuzden Brook on towards the Duckworth Hall Pub. The houses are on the right hand side, with a chicken farm on the left.

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Get yer' trainers out:

Application No:11/13/0167 Registration Date:25 Apr 2013 Location:UNIT A WHINNEY HILL ROAD CLAYTON LE MOORS Development:FULL: CHANGE OF USE FROM VACANT UNIT TO FITNESS CENTRE/GYMNASIUM

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Love it, a great application full of detail. :D

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Work seems to have stopped, for the time being, may be that is their plan, leave it for months in the hope that no one will bother. I am sure we have a member of the planning committee posting on Accy Web, get the Planning Enforcement Officer on the job, make him earn his keep, and sort this one out before its finished, make them pull it down and start again

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Keep at it Park !

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The saga of No 22 Haslingden Old Road continues see

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The photo shows what is there, the extension is larger than the existing house the planning history makes interesting reading :D

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I have only just seen this thread - I would not expect an ATC radar to pick up anything at ground level at a range of anywhere near 30km unless there was a significant difference in heights - the obstruction being the highest - reasonable to assume that Wharton ATC is more or less at sea level, but no idea about Ossie Moor + height of the turbines.
I do have some experience in the installation and operation of ATC radars - Plessey Watchman and NG ASR-12. Permanent returns can be blanked out from any radar display e.g. Moving Target Indicator. I suspect that the wind farm had a lot more clout that the farmers and more expensive legal advice - or dare I suggest something a little unethical:rolleyes:

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I think it may be not what you know but who you know, I think Ossy moor is owned by Lord.....forgot his name

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Hello
Here I am again, planning in Hyndburn what a great subject

I am back :D :D

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Believe Planning Application gone in for Al-Hamza (number 11/16/0367) can make Springhill very very busy with more noise, fireworks etc

Put this on a different thread, apologies for that.

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Makes interesting reading, check the Design & Access Statement item 5.2
Indicates what could happen if they don't get planning permission

Have a look at the car parking area on drawing 15019-11 designed by
The Intelligent Design Centre.........how will that work Cars boxed in that would be fun :rolleyes:

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Have a look at it now, and whilst you are there look at No 20 it's a carbon copy, now a pair of very big houses

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We now have a pair of very large houses, where are the planning officers

:confused::confused::confused: