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Sorry, it's actually three Conservative councillors.

Cllr. Whittaker is also a forum member, and has also discussed political issues on here.

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Perhaps they see their posts as being 'quality', rather than 'quantity'.

;)

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And most of them include either

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Aye but not if it goes against HRH.:rolleyes:

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No need to say much more when its true Less, knowing just how much Labour are always in rejection, who Gov, not me Gov, always other's to blame, the disappearance of Brown and Darling, who despite still being MPs have been very conspicuous by their absence since May last year;)

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Local politics....national politics....local politics....national politics.....

No comparison, Jay old mate!

The 'last Labour lot' in Hyndburn have all but vanished from the chamber, new blood and all that? With it comes new ideas and evolution according to the social climate.

If you want to see crazy spending then ask Peter about his initial outlines for the Royal Wedding celebrations. Closing roads was on the table, possibly the most costly move a council could make.

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I thought I had seen something on one of the newspaper boards outside the papershop.........something along the lines that six day trading in the Market hall was deemed a flop....though those are not the actual word used......'Councillors agree that six day trading has failed'.......I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, I don't think I dreamed it.

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i read it also either mon or tues on the telegraph boards, as usual just saying what most people already thought fer yonks.:rolleyes:

Yeah, they don't even acknowledge that they've read the story on here and borrowed it, such a shame, after all our version of the interweb must be making their lives so much easier,
(allegedly).

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Funny i thought the same, Diplomacy prevented me from saying it though.:D

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Glad you confirmed that for me Cashy.......thought I was going barmy for a mo.

Was in the market hall today...was dead as a doornail......thye trader we were buying from said it has been dire for weeks.....he isn't making enough to cover his costs.

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There's at least three Dyno's still there:D

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Who told you that, your friend in the fur bikini, wielding the big club?

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Don't need telling its an open fact:rolleyes:

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Evolution means everything's constantly in a state of flux.

Things alter.

Perhaps your 'dinosaurs' have.

After all things do change, and suprise us.

You, not voting Tory, in the last election, for one.

;)

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Are you repudiating the policies of the last Labour lot ? If so why ?

What are these new ideas ?

What does evolution according to the social climate mean ? :confused::confused::confused:

Or more simply , what do you think the Labour Party is about ?

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I generally accept we will be quiet during January. I do wonder about moving elsewhere though to a town where the council actually want shops

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I'm loving your polarised online persona. You deride political threads yet take part in virtually nothing else.

Pick any policy from any party that you like and look back 20 or 30 years at the stance on it. If you can find anything that has remained resolutely unchanged in every way then I salute you.

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Well that's certainly true Ken, Labour sold every principle they ever had to become electable, was firmly endorsed at all levels until the wheels came of then it was, we are only interested in local politics baloney, ya reight:D

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Now then Jay it isn't purely labour who've whored themselves out to gain the populist vote now ! As I keep reminding C'mon, he needs to look up the word "Parity" maybe you could take a peek in the big book of words too ?

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:rolleyes:The Labour Party was built on Socialism Dave The Tory Party built on Capitalism now which has changed the most:rolleyes:

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It's not a matter of who's changed the most, they've all changed to try & reap the benefits. At one point a party would make a policy endex, no ifs or buts that is it we will not waver !

Now, well we'll take that & maybe add this to it, take that from it & come up with something that's neither fish nor fowl, they've sold out & taken the middle ground in the hope of appealing to a wider spectrum.

Look at the modern crop of Politicians, their parties & policies, so much is a dilution and/or an absorption of another parties policies that they are all readily interchangeable with each other. The exception being those old Dinosaurs pushed to the outer edges of their chosen gangs comfortable little community because they're unhappy with the way their party has capitulated & accepted mediocrity in their politics & precepts.

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That's the problem , Jaysay , the Labour Party are finding it hard to come up with a new philosophy now that they are totally behind Capitalism . Tony Blair played with words when he retained the word Socialist after scrapping Clause 4 .

They are suffering from an identity crisis and haven't a clue in which direction to go .

Hence we get such in-depth discussions like Council Meeting Butties .

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The retention of the unilateral nuclear deterrent for one .

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The Labour Party isn't unilateralist now. It was at one time of course.

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Since when ?

Gordon Brown announced the Labour governments intention to replace Trident when they became obsolete with new Tridents .

When was this policy changed ?

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I don't think it was Marx or Engels that arrived at the economic truth that 'If you look after the pennies, the pounds look after themselves'.

It was probably some wise and successful housekeeper, facing savage cuts.

;)

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I'm losing track here. Are they going to nuke the Market Hall ?

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When you hear the siren Lancsdave, run like hell to the balcony in the Market Hall.

It's a protected area.

It's the only way you'll survive the fallout.

;)

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I'm with you on that one Dave. From market hall refurbishment to nuclear deterrant in one thread. :eek::eek::eek::confused:

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Someone doesn't like my quotes on this thread tonight .

I have received 2 red karma since posting them .

But he/she/they haven't the decency to leave a name .

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Quite an art form.

Now Knitty Nora's residency in the Market Hall has ended, perhaps we should apply for funding for them to take her place.

Care in the community art.


:rolleyes:

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Apologies,I read your post wrong. I read it as if you meant unilateral as in no nuclear weapons. Although it could be said trident is linked to American capabilities. So I suppose it's not truly unilateral in that sense.

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There are lots of threads, crying over loss of karma, in other sections of the forum.

Let's try and keep to the subject of this thread, at least marginally.

:s_cry:

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when they send nuclear bombs they don't put a little message on them saying 'With Love from ' :D

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Perhaps the red blobs were really little hearts, and was unsigned because it was an early Valentine.

:Banane59::Banane41::Banane59:

Incidentally Valentine cards are for sale in the Market Hall.

Which brings us neatly back on thread.

:D

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Went int Market Hall today, not that busy.
We bought the Budgie a bird bath, he loved it so he did................;)

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my flame hasn't got a special bird bath, i bought him a small plastic dogs dish, it does the same job

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Like # 1017 and # 1020

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Special bird, special bird bath you see..........and it were cheap (do you get it?heehee!!) ;)

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Perhaps they received negative karma for thread wandering, but were a brave little soldiers, and didn't cry about it. At least publicly.

I guess we'll never know.

Now dry those eyes, and lets talk market halls.

;)

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:eek: my flamey's special too :eek: ;)

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:D I am sure he/she is :gooddog:

At least somebody noticed my joke!!! :D

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Suprised you don't put it on twitter :D

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;) Didnt know that joke could get any worse.........:hidewall:

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anyone noticed the shrubs have grown legs and moved again .. didnt like being in the middle of the chairs .. so now moved back to the bottom of the stairs again ....

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Red karma and sandwiches. Curse these political threads! Get your cousin to dry your eyes, mate.

It's gratifying to know that getting my own trotters in the trough doesn't concern you as an unfair expense but as someone who has been on the breadline and now has the rare opportunity to see council spending from both sides of the fence I will keep on looking for waste.

Someone has already mentioned 'the looking after the pennies and pounds' adage and it's the best ideology.

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You mean in the way I used to feel really safe when I was entering Manchester and the roadside signs read "Manchester a nuclear free City":rolleyes:

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Stick with Dave heth he'll amaze you:D:D:D

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You'll never be a success in the Labour Party Ken:D:D

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Think he'd struggle in any party, his problem is he's to honest & dare I say it appears to have quite a bit of integrity ! :eek: Sack it now Ken ! Get yourself a job down the market, Butcher maybe ? Cutting out the offal & fat & giving the consumers decent cuts of meat, without all the gristle they've been getting of late. ;)

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Thats Tripe really Dave:D

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You might see a familiar name in this list

http://www.nabma.com/en/news/news-ar...2011-01-28.php

Can never understand award systems, how just towards the end of January 2011, can someone decide Accrington is the best indoor Market of the year 2011?

Some would wonder, is this the result of a bribe paid by pretending our Councillors go through £80 worth of butties a week?

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How much does HBC pay to be a member of NABMA? And what exactly does this Quango do, other than award themselves meaningless prizes? Does the Leader of HBC get a medal for having the best indoor market?

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A friend told me that Peter Britcliffe had been on Radio Lancashire today speaking about an award for the market , and saying how fantastically successful the renovated market has been .

I was sure he had been hearing things . Thanks for the link which confirms my friend was right .

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Maybe if he explained how that was measured we could all give credit where it's due :rolleyes:

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I hope you appreciate living in modern Britain.

In times past, such blindly servile, obsequious apologists, were very often tarred and feathered.

:Banane18:

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Perhaps he'll pop on and tell us.

:rolleyes:

If not, we'll have to try and make out what the fey but faithful little barks mean, from one of the poodles.

;)

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What a terrible state of affairs.

Having friends, one can't trust a thing they're saying.

I'd ditch 'em.

;)

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HeeHee :lol:

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I wouldnt hold your breath G :rolleyes:

Wonder if they went in a Wednesday for them to decide that we have the best indoor market? ;)

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I just don't get it. The vast majority of people don't have a good word to say about it so how is it a resounding success. What are we not seeing or being told :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:

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Did your 'friend' say if he mentioned the fantastically successful brass plaque?

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I agree with your question Dave, dont know me-self but there is something fishy going on..........fish stalls on are the outside market aswell??!! :confused::D:rolleyes:

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There's near unanimous agreement that the actual refurbishment has been a great success.

Some don't like the uncovered flagged floor, because of the uneveness. Personally I think it looks good.

What people are very disappointed with is the resulting feeling of it looking empty, with fewer market stalls.

Residents are also very unhappy that traders are forced to work hours unacceptable to them. After they'd run their businesses successfully for years, before the six day mandate was imposed on them.

Some (philistines) were even angry that tax payers' money was paid to a woman to sit crocheting in the newly 'liberated empty terrain', in the guise of 'community art'. Space which prior to that had been taken up by a market stall, selling goods people were actually prepared to purchase with real money.

Besides that, it is a roaring success.

At least for some.

Who have a certificate to prove it.

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All I can say is that NABMA must have looked at some pretty dire markets.......and been nowhere near the one in Bury.

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Wonder if PB can do this and then claim it as Community "spy" art?

Bet he would learn alot standing in the Market Hall watching what actually happens...................:rolleyes:

It's a shelf portrait! Chinese artist spends months creating incredible camouflage pictures | Mail Online

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Whatever will he apply for next !!!!
A Nobel prize maybe:rolleyes:

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A 'nobble' prize more like.

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Well a "Backhander" could possibly make someone decide?:rolleyes::D

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I could understand if Accrington had won the "Most Improved" Indoor Market of the Year, because whatever else is said about it (including the pros and cons of 6 day trading), it is 500% better than it was before.

As for "Best" Indoor Market, I can think of 2 or 3 that are better than it in the north west alone, so BALMA's credibility must be questioned on that one.

But let's give credit where credit is due.

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Why gynn? yes i agree that the improvements were well needed, but as fer being better, theres many less traders now, why is this? on that basis i disagree, it only looks better, its certainly not improved in my eyes.;)

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Membership Fee
District Councils - £636.00 + VAT

Membership Application Form

Relatively cheap, for a lovely certificate.

:rolleyes:

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:eek:more evidence of WASTE:eek:

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Yes that could have paid for butties for quite a few weeks.

:rolleyes:

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Waste yes to you n i margaret, but money well spent by one who blows his own trumpet, n shoves it right up our asses.:rolleyes:

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Cheaper than a flash mob.....:D:D:D

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Yes, that would have only bought Cassandra-Isadora Duncan one leg warmer, and only half of a very long and dangerous floaty scarf.


:rolleyes:

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It's not the scarf thats the problem, it's those damn wheels on those new fangled automobiles....

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It's going on the list.

Chop, chop, chop.

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I was in the indoor market on Thursday looking for 1/2lb of butter and a small sliced loaf they wanted to charge £2:98 for both that's £1:99 for the butter and 99p for the loaf i told them to forget it and went to M&S much cheaper butter £1:30 bread 78p

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it's not the stall holders fault though Mick, it's that Brticliffe persons fault, they need to increase prices so they can pay the extra rent

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Obviously with a declared interest in the success of Accrington as a town centre worth visiting I think we should celebrate any awards as a town.

What I would like to know is what were the criteria and who judged it. There's a massive difference between awards given by some trade body and those given by the ones who matter, Joe Public.

I'm also curious how 2011 awards are done in January. Presumably the judging took place on 2010 ?

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Don't tell me you have me on your ignore list as well?

I've already asked that!
:D

:)

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Would that be the peace prize Marg:rolleyes:

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I don't care who's fault it is i am not paying them prices
but i always try and support local shops and market stalls if i can but there is a limit.

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I don't have an ignore list, I just read peoples posts in order of their importance and interest. I didn't see yours :p

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Impressed by the newly painted A-board outside the Market Hall, proclaiming Accrington's indoor market to be the best-est in the whole universe...honest guv', we decided today to have another mooch around the upstairs level.

First off, fair's fair, the renovations are impressive. The ceiling alone is a materpiece of Victorian engineering and design, and it's now in tip top condition.

However, as a shopping experience, the balcony is not as impressive.

First off it's so narrow, it's single file only. Anyone with big hips would need to walk sideways.

The cafe was sparcely populated. Certainly compared to the downstairs ones.

We were the only people, thankfully because of the lack of space, on the walkway.

There are some nice little shops up there.

Sadly there weren't any signs of customers up there though, besides ourselves.

We felt sorry for them. Sitting there, looking bored to death.

If you could use your time there producing goods, to be sold elsewhere as well, fair enough.

If you were relying solely on the takings from sales made in those retail outlets alone, I'd be more than concerned that a living wage could be earned.

I wouldn't want to rent those uptairs units.

I'd want paying, for liberating empty terrain.

Their window displays were attractive, and I wish them well.

Though to survive I fear they'll need more than good wishes.

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i think if the shops upstairs where advertised downstairs they might do a bit more trade

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Its a fair point....................I did`nt even know that there was any shops upstairs..:rolleyes:

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There are newly painted signs ouside the front entrances, advertising the upstairs businesses.

That's why we went up.

We're suckers for pretty signs.

:D

Anyone with a buggy, meeting another buggy, or a wheelchair, have no chance of passing each other on the walkway.

It'd be like Robot Wars.

Which at least might bring in the crowds downstairs, to watch the carnage.

:D

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i'd hate to be shopping with twin babies in Accrington then, it was bad enough taking one baby up there to attempt to find the toilets

No sympathy from me, they had a chance to learn crochetting, this time next year they could have been millionaires!

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Thats your trouble G your easily lead:D

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Or good at spotting signs.

;)

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They are wrong though, it says open 6 days a week when in actual fact it's 7 :D

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There you go Dave a buisness opening for you, T-Shirts with WE'RE ONPEN 7 DAYS A WEEK on the back:D

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I'll have you know we don't produce stuff like that, we always check the speeling ferst :D