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Dave Mason is a level-headed councillor and seems to weigh up the pros and cons of most situations. Bear in mind that whatever quotes are given to the paper will be cited in a way that suits the article so that may just have been part of what he said.

Some people would agree that pushing the traders the extra mile to open six days is good for Accrington. I'm afraid I don't.

Cllr Ken Moss of Rishton said earlier today, 'Some people would agree that pushing the traders the extra mile to open six days is good for Accrington.'

I could've just provided a balanced quote there, even though it doesn't actually say what I believe to be true because it is out of context.

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I notice according to a leaflet in the Obbo', we are going to be treated to 'cookery demonstrations', by celebrity chef Aldo Zilli, (Who?), pardon my ignorance, he doesn't run one of the take aways near me.

Could I just set him a challenge? After all it shouldn't be too difficult he won't have to walk far, JUST USE INGREDIENTS YOU FIND IN THE MARKET HALL, ON THE DAY, don't give us 'owt fancy.:D

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So it's not the little slap head from Benny Hill?

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...80_997874a.jpg

How disappointing.

I think I'll stay in and boil my trotters....that I'll buy on Tuesday.

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You got the wrong bald chap there.
This is him
http://www.caterersearch.com/blogs/g...x365-34875.jpg

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There were two li'l slapheads used in a famous sketch in which they were a pair of breasts.

Perhaps they were lifted and separated, and went off in different directions.

Bye-bye grease paint, hello chip fat.

:rolleyes:

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He doesn't look bald, just follicly challenged!

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Little Eyetie geezer, (Cockney barra' boy in the market advert)for Kelloggs Optivita !

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Well today's the day, I actually ventured into Accrington and had a look in the market hall.
First thing I wanted was a pair of shoes but the shop has packed up. next thing was a tea cake, no luck. Then I went into the card shop but they didn't have one for twins Christening. The place seemed busy though, mind you it is Saturday.
Not over impressed with the new setup I decided to go out onto Church street for a plate of chips from Church Street Chippy, I left via the nearest door which is almost opposite Church street and next to the two cafe, I say left but actually I went out head first and was lucky that someone managed to stop me falling on the floor. There is a bit of a ledge or something right in the door way and I tripped on it. I wish I had have fallen really as I had two young lady witnesses behind me.
Anyway that's my experience of the market and I doubt if I will go into Accrington for a while now so my trade is no worth bothering about.

By the way I had a pair of good shoes on so they didn't make me trip and it was before the sun had gone over the yard arm so I was sober.

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Please don't discuss posts that have been removed on thread. If you have a problem with any moderation please PM me or one of the other mods.

I removed the thread in question because the thread starter admitted he only started it as advertisment for his business which is against the rules.

The posts in this thread that have been removed were mainly off thread and discussing the other one.

I would also like to state that no one holds any influence over what can or can not be posted on this site as was implied in a post I removed. We try to be unbiased and impartial.

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Has anyone got any recent pics of how good/bad it looks now it is supposed to be finished?

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Here you go.

The vast majority of the refurb is fairly impressive, it's only really aspects of the flooring that are of any physical concern. There was a bone of contention over wi-fi and internet access although this has since been clarified as wired connections available to each stall. Oh, and the cleaning of the floors and windows and brasses has also been questioned.

That sounds pretty awful, I genuinely think it looks good for the most part!

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it does look ok, but was under the impression the main object of a market hall, was to attract punters, but fer other reasons than the work done, it sure dont seem to be doing so.:eek:

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That's the management side of things and the decisions taken by Cabinet members.

Don't get me started on that again....

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Mossy, i reckon it's time to close this thread now, you're managing to make people defend PB with going on for so long about him

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Good, its nice to see you being positive about our market.
All these negative comments from people could actually be keeping people away who might have visited and spent money on the market.

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Doubt it very much neil, i call in 3/4 times a week n have heard some comments of the few that do go in. i dont spend as much as i used to in yon,

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That's because you keep getting food delivered from Scotland:D

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Off there now.

Will see what the word on the ground floor is this week.

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having just returned, ya will be swamped by women n music, summat goin on but none of em seem to shopping.:rolleyes:

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I doubt that too. I reckon most folk would visit out of curiosity....but I sincerely doubt they would return. It is a very poor excuse for a market hall, and I can see it becoming an empty market hall before too much longer. The shadow of Tesco looms large.

And didn't someone once say that there was no such thing as 'bad publicity' ?

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Have you been upstairs for a coffee yet?

I wonder if garinda went upstairs for a coffee?

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No I haven't been upstairs for a coffee...and I have to admit that the recent rant by Coffeebeanz has put me off.

I want to be able to go into a market hall that is buzzing with activity.....not a dead space(which is what it feels like to me....perhaps i am on my own here, but I doubt it)....I really do not want to have some sort of entertainment thrust upon me.......especially when it detracts from the reason of the market hall....which is, after all, to sell produce. Bury Market Hall is excellent.... it has a very wide variety of stalls, competitive prices, and NO music......or entertainment/distractions from the prime aim of a visit...which is to shop( and perhaps have a cuppa).
If Bury Market can manage to do the business in five days, then why can't Accrington do the same?

I have said that when the new Tesco opens...which looking at the progress made recently, must be sometime soon, then the Market hall will get even less of a look in.
I feel genuinely sorry for the traders who are going to be forced to work their gonads off to try to make a living.

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I've just had a very productive conversation with Cllr Marlene Haworth in which I have offered to give her written suggestions on how I personally would conduct a review of six-day trading, something that she welcomed with open arms.

I've made it quite clear that I don't agree with six-day trading but since we are going to get the trial regardless of jitters in the ranks the only real option is to try and make it as painless as possible for the stallholders.

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No.

I said I was going to visit, when I wished them well on here, until I, along with others, was branded as 'pathetic'.

Instead I had a very nice pathetic lunch, and latte, in Over Coffee.

The food, and service, was first class, as it usually is.

In the Market Hall I bought my usual supplies.

Saw massive piles of flyers at the back of Marks & Spencer, advertising tomorrow's visit by the celebrity chef A. Dildo Silly.

Hope they find the way to the right recycling sack, afterwards.

I wonder how much they cost?

There were enough there to paper the flags in the Market Hall...were once there was stalls.

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I agree with every word.

A lot of the people on here, who seem to think the enforced six day trading is nothing to worry about, I've never, ever seen shopping in there.

Odd that.

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Just been for a quick wander through.

Looks like most of the traders are open. The outside market is about half full.

I didn't get trampled on in the rush while going through the market hall though

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Went in the Market this morning at 9.15 ish. Must admit, was nice to be able to buy fresh meat from the butchers on a Wednesday. We just dont have any butchers shops anymore in the town. Also went to Smiths (bacon and sausage and cooked meats) and called at Len's, so at least they got a bit of business out of me.
Was back in town later and watched the chef for a while. Are any Accywebbers on the photos, I wonder?

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ahhhh i wondered what that big gap was for in there, thought they'd forgot to put some stalls in

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Its Hard to tell from the back of there heads Atarah :D
i know a lot of accywebbers but only from the front
unless its less going to the bar in the Railway:D

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Think I might have spotted PB in photo number two:D:D:D

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Not sure how true it is but I beleive next weeks star guest is Martin Platt in is role as cheesemaker :)

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Sat on the far left of the photo ,

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Thought that was his role in Corrie too ! Or should that be just cheesy ? :D

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Ya JCB that's who I thought it was, just sad that Ken wasn't sat next to him:D

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They would need to turn the market hall thermostat down with all that hot air;)

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I heard part of an interview with the chef chap and Ted Robbins of Radio Lancashire when I nipped out for some petrol this morning. Was Ted actually there or was it via a radio link?
I prefer Ted to the chef chap any day.

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Well I never saw Ted when I was there, but I believe there were two more "sittings" later on in the day.
Ted is lovely, I went to his wedding.

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That’s right Dave, Sean Wilson/Martin Platt “ passionate cheesemaker” according to the flier. Also on the bill is “ Hollywood Movie Star” Kenny Baker ?

The particular flier I’m looking at is from a batch that was withdrawn partway through the day due to an error “ Now 6 day trading Monday to Friday” :D

Some suit was heard to say “How did we miss that…it’ll be ok, only a few hundred quid to put right” :rolleyes:

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Tempted to go next week as i sometimes make my own cheese. But somehow i doubt i'd get close enough to have a good chat.

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Just Googled who that Kenny Baker is...tis the midget who was/played/operated R2D2 in Starwars. Hope he don't come in his outfit else that flagged floor will have him on his arse most of the day :D

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hope they provide him with a stage so peeps can see him

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Peter didn't venture down yesterday as far as I'm aware although naturally Marlene was there and presented with a cookery book by Aldo Zilli. She gave a nice little speech to the throng who then all promptly vanished once the presentation had finished, although they didn't actually seem to be doing any shopping.

There were a lot of suits about and plenty of people with cameras (myself included, as ever) but I am slightly concerned by the rumoured cost of the chosen celebrity, something I need to find out for certain.

Although the Market Hall was slightly busier than usual, the traders still aren't very happy because yesterday simply wasn't busy enough to justify them being there instead of at the cash and carry. The only place I saw a marked increase in customers at was Coffeebeanz.....

Saturday would have been a much better day for that demonstration.

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I think these chef's have their own restaurants and will be very busy at weekends Ken

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This is the page from his agency. If correct then it's scandalous considering the rents the traders have to pay. The money would be better used reducing rents :eek:

Aldo Zilli - Celebrity Italian Chef

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Thats me stood at the bottom of the right stairway with my back to the camera, i have a grey jacket on with a thin black stripe across the back, stood next to an Italian lady in an orange jacket!

Yep its fair to say there was a reasonable number of people there, but mainly probably attracted either by novelty or the chefs demo's....no doubt there will be plenty of these over....let me guess....the next 3 months, which will artificially inflate market footfall & perhaps turnover! You watch these events dropped like a stone after though!

Certainly at between £5000-£10000 a shot, they cant be making ecconomic sense in the long term can they?..Aldo Zilli had a few staff with him though.

I noticed that Sean Wilson was originally advertised as appearing this Saturday, in all previous flyers and both adverts in Observer & Telegraph...but now he's been moved to next Wednesday!!

Best Regards - Taggy

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(From Accrington Observer 8/10/10 page 3 article headlined "Historic day as times change for market" ):-
"The first Wednesday opening at Accrington Market Hall has been hailed a success , as traders finally signed leases introducing a six-day week " .

Also The Big Debate on page 6 is headlined "Yes to Wednesday market" .

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The cost of Aldo Zilli's presentation has been confirmed today as £8,030 not including the flyers. At that price you don't really need to work in
a restaurant.

If the traders demand the criteria that I'm suggesting to evaluate success or failure then it will be a true financial comparison rather than a media-driven report which just happens to say that it has worked.

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'KIN ELL :eek:

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Was the £30 to cover the cost of the food he bought in the Market Hall?:D

Best Regards - Taggy

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You'd like to think so but somehow I doubt it. We've got Kenny Baker lined up as well who is also reputed to be quite expensive.

I'm not knocking their efforts to draw people in but Wednesday is not the day to do it and in all honesty I think the traders would prefer reduced rents all round to fill the stalls and actually have something for people to buy.

Sorry Marlene, I simply can't condone spending that much money on one person. Get someone local to do a presentation using stuff that has been purchased in the Market Hall, promote Accrington and not London.

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That's what I thought, Shaz.

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That is probably the equivalent of one years rent for one of the smaller inside market units. Scandalous :eek:

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does this mean they are going to keep forking out for minor celebs just to 'try' and bring trade in?

what utter sh!te

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Shouldn't that read Aldo Zillions ! Someones taking the pish !

11 Wednesdays up to Crimbo, averaging out 8k per display = 88,000 squids !!!:eek: :eek: Oh deary me, not a wise move !

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does this mean they are going to keep forking out for minor celebs just to 'try' and bring trade in?

how would you put that down on the council expenses?

what utter sh!te

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In fact I've just worked out I'll have to pay the equivalent in business rates to Hyndburn council for nearly 7 years for the same amount :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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He did get a pound of Mince from Slacks Farm Butchers, and a lump of Cheese from the Cheese Stall Ken...bet that made it worth there while opening!:D

I would hope that Sean Wilson aint being paid much since he's basically just advertising his own Cheeses, which the Cheese stall are already stocking!

Best Regards - Taggy

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The singer/saxophone player was good on Wednesday. The only thing though :( He sang all day in between zilli (for more hundreds of pounds probably!)

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How can these sums of money be justified? I am disgusted that the council feel this is a cost effective way of bringing business into the Market Hall.
It would have been far more sensible to allow the stall holders a reduced rent arrangement for the duration of the trial Wednesday opening.

What a shower of doo-doo they really are.

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Good grief, I'm a chef, i'd have done it for the odd 30 quid.
Wonder if on his way out with his bulging back pocket he said bon-appetito.

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Are the stall holders being charged more rent for opening on Wednesdays (yes I do Nikki) or is it like Orange Free Wednesdays?

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Think they will have to charge them Neil, that way they can pay for all the "entertainment".

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For the Market Hall the rents are charged on an annual price and paid monthly.

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It would have been cheaper to knit, or crochet one.

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Don't go doing that.

Working out the cost of things in the amount of tax you pay.

The money H.B.C. spends on these sort of things is 'special money', not people's hard earned taxes.

It's grown on magical trees, up the Coppice.

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Which Council budget is this coming from? According to its Statement of Accounts, on page 30 of the following

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...d_24Sep-10.pdf

the Markets as a trading undertaking made a surplus of 87,000 in 2009/2010.

Are the Council using this surplus to pay for the Wednesday entertainments, or is it coming from corporate publicity budgets?

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Where ever the money is coming from.......it is a very poor use of resources......frivolous and extravagant........with no guarantee of achieving what it is meant to achieve....that is, a better shopping experience in the Market Hall.
I would make a bet that many of those who sat and watched the cookery display left the market hall without spending anything. How does that help the traders to make a living?

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I formally asked Marlene Howarth where the money was coming from - she told me that it was neither capital nor revenue but had come from some money put aside for the Town Centre Regeneration Board.

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I wouldn't be suprised if the calculations to work out if Wednesday trading has been a success, at the end of the three month 'trial', are based on foot fall into the Market Hall, to see these costly 'celebrities', rather than working out how much people spent in there.

:rolleyes:

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He was indeed and placing him on the top floor made for much better acoustics but even he will have cost a few hundred quid for the day and I'm not sure that he would have drawn anyone in specifically to listen.

There's a lot of face-saving money being thrown about to show that Wednesdays are a viable market day in Accrington and, despite being on the council, I can do absolutely nothing to directly intervene.

It's incredibly frustrating for me, just imagine how the traders feel.

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The portfolio holder will ultimately make the decision and I have a feeling which way things are going which is why I am working with the traders to formulate a fair system.

At some point I am bound to be accused of bias and trying to skew the figures in favour of abolishing Wednesday trading but if it truly is a financial success then my suggestions will show that too.

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Seems a little expensive in today's climate, must be a case of speculate to accumulate, great if it works, but not if it flops

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It's something nice for those sole traders to listen to, as they are forced to open.

They wouldn't get to listen to it if they were buying stock, packing goods ready for sale, etc., as they used to do on Wednesdays.

They'll also be able to come back and listen to it after they've decided to pull out, when they decide trading in Accrington Market Hall is no longer a viable business option.

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I counted about fifty people in Atarah's photographs.

Presuming he drew similar crowds at each of the three slots he did, that's 150 people who were enticed to come and see him.

Which equates to about £53.50 per person.

Great value, as I'm sure the tax payers of Hyndburn who couldn't attend, as they were busy working, in order to pay their taxes that funded it, would agree.

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Forgot to mention, was talking to a member of the council, in the market hall on Wednesday. When asked my views, I said that if I was honest, I would probably NOT venture up onto the balcony again, after my initial visit. Sorry people upstairs, but I have been brought up to only know the downstairs part.
One of my comments was that the clock could possibly be found a home there. The answer was "its being looked into" -Hmmmm! Interesting. If it happens, wonder who will get the credit for that?

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I understand that plans have been afoot for some time to resurrect the Arndale Centre Clock but there's some dithering because it would cost a few thousand pounds.

You'll forgive me for not sniggering at the irony.

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You sniggering Ken its usually a full blown belly laugh:rolleyes: :D

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Usually, but I'm finding the Market Hall fiasco hard to laugh at.

Poking fun at policies and decisions is one thing but sometimes it just isn't that amusing.

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If it was relocated to the Market Hall, perhaps we could hook it up to a generator, and PB & Marlene could take it in turns to sit a top it & ride the bike and help ecconomise on the lecky bill!:D...."We are All in it together" Lol!

Best Regards - Taggy

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I think putting this clock in the Market Hall is a great idea. Could well encourage a few more visitors, even if only children dragging their parents in there to see it.

Hope they put the Father Christmas grotto in there too, or at least some sort of magnet pulling display.

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Well, the refurbishment has been done now and no going back. I think it looks O.K. myself. Have to look at positive ways to encourage more visitors and stall holders ... sure you all have 'good' suggestions buzzing around in your head.

I don't agree with trying to force a 6-day trading on the stall holders though if many are unhappy with it. Has to be a joint agreement by all and done with enthusiasm, otherwise, they will always feel disgruntled and not make for a happy atmosphere.

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what the hell is that stone flag floor all about? i'd not noticed it till i went in with a pram today, my poor niece was bounced all over the place, it won't be long before someone has an accident walking on that, it's shabby, uneven and it's not even finished in some places, i was going to let my 13 month old niece out of the pram so should could have a run around in the big open space in the market hall but i changed my mind as soon as the pram started wobbling

whoever thought of putting that floor down should be shot, it's a death trap

i just hope it isn't someone old who has an accident

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Having commented on how scandalous the waste of taxpayers money on these 2 bit celebrities I've just had my blood pressure raised even more.

Had a letter from the council to demand the full balance of this years council tax. How far in arrears are we......................... 8 days :mad:

We pay it monthly due on the 1st of the month, yes I admit it tends to lapse a few days in to the month until I have time to sit down and sort it out but notice I did say we PAY it, in full, no discounts.

So now they are going to take us to court for non-payment :confused:

Cretins :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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How about you as Katie Christmas, bet you look great in red :D

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The Con-Lib coalition keeps telling us what a bad state the Labour government left us in , and how we have to brace ourselves for cuts needed to get us out of the mess left by the Labour government .

Are they on another planet ? Haven't they heard that the mess was part of a global economic disaster that has affected all countries ?

Are Hyndburn Council on another planet also , throwing money about like there was no tomorrow ?

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Him that put the floor down will never get another headache never mind get shot.

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Wasn't put down Walkinman ... was the original floor which was discovered under the overlay (or whatever you call it). Again, I think great stuff in preserving our heritage.

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Andybody know a decent builder who could do some pointing on it?

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Seeing as it is part of the buildings fabric & heritage, could they not smooth down the rough edges & snags thereby allowing unimpeded movement to prams/trolleys etc. & ensuring no one trips, but enables the floors integrity to remain ?

Beats covering it in concrete or some equivalent gunk ! Sure it won't cost more than some of the ideas for the place !

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It was put down when the market hall was built i would think so the person that did it will be long dead hence he will never get another headache.

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When they discovered the original flagged floor under the asphalt floor I believe English Heritage put quite a few thousand pounds into the pot ( 80k was what I was told ) on the understanding that it was cleaned up and returned to its original state. There is supposed to be a 4mm height tolerance across the hall floor, which is obviously not the case. I expected to see some sort of machine in there skimming the floor but instead saw some poor sod breaking his back with an angle grinder taking the high bits off a few of the flags.

Under the carpets at three entrances there are no flags, it’s concrete from when the entrances were re-floored prior to the old asphalt going down. The carpets got put there as a quick fix for the “Re-opening Ceremony” earlier in the year. The concrete was supposed to be dug up and new flags installed. Heard that there was no cash left, the cost would be 16k and that the Council had no intent of paying.

A few members of the public have already fallen either tripping on the carpets at the entrances or on the flags themselves. Dunno if any compensation claims have been lodged.

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Well I can think where they could have found half of it :rolleyes:

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It's bloody criminal Dave.

You noticed that the glass cellar skylights on the Hall floor have still not been sorted out, just covered with bits of cardboard or plywood taped to the floor. Christ, some of the glass blocks are completely missing.

A few claims going in might gee them up but that would mean someone would have to have been hurt and it shouldn't have come to come to that.

Hope someone drags the H&S Executive in

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By not employing Z-list celebrities like Dildo Zilly?

Cancel cheesy Martin Platt next week, and hey presto, new flags.

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I would think the chances of that happening are zero. A certain councillor will need a sample of cheese to finish off one of the recipes in her new cookery book ;)

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The whole thing has a worse stench than a Stinking Bishop.

Still, as long as Cllr. Haworth is happy with her pound of flesh, whoops...cheese, everything is hunky-dory in the Market Hall in La-la land.

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Didnt even know the actor had turned cheese maker, until I read it on Accyweb. Details here:-

Saddleworth Cheese Co - Sean Wilson Cheese

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I don't think even Gail and David know.

They still think he's nursing in Liverpool.

:D

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Other countries were not as reckless with their sending for 11 years previous to the down turn, they went on a spend, spend, spend binge, just like a demented pools winner, with no financial plan in place for the future, now we are paying the price in a big way:mad:

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was talking to one of the ladies at Slacks yesterday and she couldn't believe it when i told her how much Aldo Zilli charges for appearances, lets hope it's got around the market