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...and let's not forget there were a few Labour rebels, though not as many as the Tories, who voted for the democratic rights of their constituents, rather than their party puppet masters.

Though sadly our M.P. wasn't one of them.

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...ah but he knows FAR more about it than us 'umble folk who know our place, and we shouldn't question him! ;)

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Oh dear.

That could be tough.

I. for one, will find it hard to keep my gob shut, when it comes to right, versus wrong.

No matter how superior his knowledge is over mine, about these highfalutin, complex issues.

:rolleyes:

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Graham's estimate of 95% was way off mark

Ed Miliband set for decision on Europe referendum | Politics | The Observer

"A ComRes opinion poll for the Independent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror showed how Europe is emerging as an issue that could be pivotal at the next election. The poll showed that 26% of Tories now say they will consider voting for the anti-EU Ukip compared to 11% of Labour supporters and 14% of Liberal Democrats. It also showed the extent of anti-EU hostility Labour would need to overcome if a referendum were held now, with 46% of voters saying they would vote to leave the EU compared with 30% who would vote to stay in."

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I'm with you on this one Rindi, if your there to represent people, then represent them, don't tell them you know best and basically tell them to get stuffed ;)

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Absolutely, but sadly politicos immaterial of party give us only their sanitized version which suits their purposes at the time. So we'll never get facts unless we look ourselves, but then having done that & forming our own views & opinions, the public are denied the right to have a say because of arsehole politicos who decide for us !!!

And you wonder why the people have such disdain & no faith in anything political. Constant lies from all sides.

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Yes, the actual source of Graham Jones's claim, that '95% don't give a toss about Europe', remains unsubstantiated.

So far.

Perhaps one of his minions will pop on, and tell us where that figure came from.

Merkel, the office cat, make yet come up trumps, and provide evidence that it's not just a load of old tripe.

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Not forgetting their wannabe apologists.

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if we pulled out of europe there wouldnt be any of those cushy euro mp jobs to go to when the locals dont like a MP anymore right ?

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The People's Pledge are an organisation setting up referenda across the country asking if people want an in/out referendum. They've been mentioned here before and quite a few of us have signed up. They ran their first campaign in Thurrock where over 14,000 people voted and 90% voted in favour of an in/out referendum.

A few days ago Graham posted about it at Graham Jones MP: Something just feels wrong about the People's Pledge. He says "I have long held the view that the Euro question should at some stage be considered for a referendum." Despite voting against having a referendum in the next Parliament, he still claims to want one.

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Just evidence of more hypocrisy.
I have long held the view that the Euro question should at some stage be considered for a referendum. As Hyndburn's MP I believe the Labour Party should consider that option and anti-EU campaigners in Hyndburn can be assured my it is certainly not as one sided as they perceive my position to be on a referendum.

This quote is taken from your link Andrew....some of it makes sense...but some of it doesn't.
anti-EU campaigners in Hyndburn can be assured my it is certainly not as one sided as they perceive my position to be on a referendum.
That bit doesn't...enlighten me please someone

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And there it is again...the contempt that politicians have for the voting public

'all showed little understanding of the motion or issue at hand'

And yet again, the politician disects a simple very straightforward question using semantics as an argument.

I despair

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so our MP now says AGAIN we should have a referendum

is anyone buying this bag of bull?

fool us once shame on you

fool us twice same on us

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Something that has always intrigued me about politicians is the question of voting according to one's conscience. This seems quite acceptable, praiseworthy even, when it comes to things like gay marriage, abortion, affirmative action, even pacifism when the question concerns a country going to war. But why is it that voting according to the wishes of one's constituents, and keeping one's word are not considered matters of conscience and principle? Does loyalty to party, and one's own ambitions, take precedence over probity when it comes to the folks who have voted one into a cushy, bs job?

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The answer to your question Eric, is......well of course. Ambition and financial gain must be the driving forces. After all, who cares anymore about conscience? 95% of people couldn't give a toss...or so I'm told.

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That shows the contempt he has for his electorate, if he is still claiming he wants a referendum on Europe why did he vote against it, just to toe the party line and keep in favour with Mr Ed

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As further evidence of his gross hypocrisy, Graham Jones even had the gall to start his own thread/poll on here, on the actual day of the vote regarding the E.U. referendum, soliciting our views.

Which again showed that the overwhelming majority wanted the democratic right to vote in a referendum, regarding membership of a body we historically never voted to join.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ote-59637.html

Sadly, even with this further evidence, he decided to vote against his constituents being allowed to have the right to have their say on whether we want to be members of the European Union, or not.

He smugly chose party, over us, the people.

Then, moments after the result was announced, he was gleefully posting on Twitter that it had been a 'disaster for the Tories', because they'd many more rebels than Labour, who'd voted in favour of us being allowed a referendum.

Not a single tweet from himself, about the whole debacle being a disaster for Britain's democracy.

Seems this is still an important issue for a lot of people.

Still, at least it takes attention away from the recent legal battles he's involved himself with, concerning the recent elections.

Every cloud...

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Be careful Rindi you'll be getting dark and sinister PMs:rolleyes:

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Or you could get a personal visit.......again;)

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Yes, yet more gibberish, and evidence of his hypocrisy.

We should be getting used to it by now.

:mad:

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From the same politicos, who used to cheer me on, with messages of support, when I was on their opponent's case?

Bring it on.

I enjoy a good laugh.

:rolleyes:

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Or do you mean a personal visit from someone higher up this time, than the Deputy Leader of the Hyndburn Borough Council?

Here to set the record straight, in the vain hope of silence, from my good self?




Oh goody.

I love company.

I'll bake some more We Want a Referendum buns.

Made with my secret ingredient filling.

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:rolleyes:

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Not the secret ingredient filling, oh no:eek::eek::eek:

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Yes, though I couldn't find a laxative smiley, suitable for a family forum.

;)

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Yes, they all seem to find a carrot to dangle before us, with promise of an E.U. referendum, prior to an election.

But it magically disappears, just after polling day.

Well we're tired of a diet of magic carrots.

In fact, we're thoroughly sickened by them.

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How can you tell when a politician is lying?


































His lips are moving!

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Something struck me about these declarations - it's the "as yet".

Sounds ominous.

An "oar" in International Affairs at HBC - could this be the launch-pad towards a career at an International level and reveal sub-conscious European political ambitions in our man from Rishton:eek:

Keep watching this space...:D

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So ... if the current leader of the Labour Party decides ... not out of conviction, or a love of democracy of course, but as a matter of political expediency ... if he decides to adopt holding a referendum as part of his party's platform, and it actually comes to pass, with the support of your current MP, will that change how informed voters (the five per cent who do give a rat's ass) view that MP's performance?

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Even if we were ever to get a referendum, and the vote came out for leaving, the EU would just throw it out & demand another vote like they did with Ireland.
My thoughts are if Cameron played the referendum card, at the next EU summit, with conviction, then they might just back off, & stop interfering in Gt Britains affairs, & give us a better deal. The way things are with Greece at the moment, it might just make them stop & think.

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Has it really got to the point where the EU could thwart the democratically expressed wishes of the British public ... Ireland, maybe, but the UK? Isn't it the sixth or seventh wealthiest country in the world. I mean, we ain't talking River Dance and Guiness here. Since I have lived in Canada, we have had two hard-fought referenda on independence for la belle province de Quebec. A Canada without Quebec! And at the same time, there were rumblings from the Western Provinces, the Maritimes, and British Columbia (not a western province, in the sense that the UK is not European;)) about separation for their regions. Scary times. However, if the folks in Quebec had voted to leave Confederation, the Feds and the other nine provinces would have accepted the democratically expressed wishes of the Quebecois. Europe is becoming a weird place ... and the krauts:rolleyes: ... it's time they had another good ass kicking.:theband:

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Yes, but because of this European fraternal love-in, we haven't been at war with each other for sixty odd years.

We have to travel a little further for fistycuffs nowadays.

Have ammo, and an E.U. task force, will travel.

Well there was that bit of a do in the Balkans.

But they're not proper Europeans. Being a bit swarthy, from having been touched with a non-E.U. standard tar brush.

Plus they aren't European Union members.

Just yet.

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There hasn't been(to my knowledge anyway - maybe it happened while I was asleep) any country which has had a vote/referenda as to whether to stay in or leave the EU.

There have been referendums about accepting the fiscal policy...or different treaties....and countries who have voted against the wishes of the EU have been sent away to vote again...until they come back with the right answer(one that is accpetable to Brussels).
Democracy is not being served by the EU. neither is trade....which was the banner under which the EEC(later to become the EU) was floated.
The EU and the single currency were never about about free trade, it was always about politics and the forming of the Federal states of Europe.
This failed as the USSR.......which broke up into original state...there is no reason why the EU cannot do the same thing........and if Greece exits the single currency(which it surely must) then it will be the master of its own fate...it can do back to the Drachma, set its own financial course. People will flock there again for holidays, greek products would become cheaper and therefore more attractive to buyers and the greek economy could once again stabilise, and after a time flourish.
Wouldn't that be a smack in the kisser for Germany?

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Seems like the Na oops, sorry ... Germans are becoming increasingly unpopular. Starting to throw their weight around again. Their kinder-gentler-warm fuzzy image is starting to fade. It's not hard to see through their rhetoric ... they want to run the show ... and it's only 98 years since they tried the first time. And then there was that thing in the early 40s ... I seem to remember the Greeks had a rough time of it then too.:rolleyes:

As an aside: I know that major league football is becoming a lot like WWE, but I did find myself cheering for Chelski last weekend.;)

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Yes, it won't be too much longer before our British passports, emblazoned in gold with DIEU ET MON DROIT on the cover, are replaced by ones issued by the United States of Europe, stating on the front that 'Arbeit macht frei'.

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Brings more meaning to the old one, German and and English soldier are talking the German says "we should have won the war" the English soldier replies "why":rolleyes:

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"work sets you free".. is that your slogan for your new found right wing buds? :D

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Oh I'm quite choosy, when it comes to who I have as friends.

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Not many poiticans make the grade.

Same with those who are a bit 'slow'.

You'll have to edit your posts a little faster, if you don't want then quoted in their original form.

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Same meaning..and I don't regard myself as a politician..but you do put yourself up front as speaking for "the majority"..your last attempt did nowt as far as the local council votes went so sail on momma :D

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That's the trouble with you your just so damn quick :D

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Well too damn fast for left wing lakies:D

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Well yeah Jaysay...I'm feeling kind so won.t call you a dog again :rolleyes:

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I speak for no one but myself.

We're all agreed on that.

As for your recent bouts of churlishness, now that I'm no longer a Labour supporter, that's quite funny.

Almost.

Though let's not get sidetracked.

This thread is about the vast majority of us, who think Graham Jones did the wrong thing, voting against us being allowed a say in a referendum on our membership of the European Union.

Let's stick with the subject of this thread please.

Jones chosing party, over the democratic rights of the people he's supposed to represent.

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Even though you're thread wandering, keen on posting your thoughts about my good self, I do thank you for helping to keep this thread active.

I wondered if it might be a struggle, keeping it going until the next General Election.

Obviously not.

Cheers.

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We are all agreed? .. who the bloody hell are WE?

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Don't think we'll need to bother, Jonesy maybe history if the boundary commission get their way, there's an article in today's LT about it

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Whoosh.

Right over your head.

Did you leave your sense of humour behind, when you heeded Tebbit's advice and got on your bike, to seek your fortune on the golden paved streets of London?

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:




That sad state of affairs aside, back to Graham Jones, his hypocrisy, and betrayal...

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Got on his bike a drunks a drunk anywhere

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Tory shiwant cwant

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:thepint::thepint::thepint::thepint::thepint::thep int::thepint::thepint::rolleyes:

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A good reply from a man who claims to have great debating skills.. maybe your mate garinda can get you up to scratch..

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Taken from a speech the hon. member for Hyndburn made yesterday

'I am afraid, his Government, and they are impacting severely on my constituents, who are deeply worried. It should come as no surprise to him that, in my local authority area and in neighbouring areas, people at polling stations only two weeks ago rejected the Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties and voted Labour. He must be deeply concerned about that, because he cannot say that the voters are wrong; he must listen to them and to their concerns.'

Ooooo...the hypocrisy

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trying to take the mote out of someones eye when you have a boulder in your own cannot be easy.
But Aren't all politicians hypocrites and prone to put their own spin on things(is 'spin' a euphemism for lying?)

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Graham Jones does listen.

He started a poll about the referendum on here, the very day they voted on it.

He listened.

Sadly it wasn't what he wanted to hear.

So he voted with his party.

Rather than what the constituents he's paid to represent clearly wanted.

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He's just used the people of Hyndburn to enhance his own political ambitions, now he's got where he wants to be he sure as hell ain't gone let those same people ruin his ambitions of being a political high flyer:mad:

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Even the best whores eventually lose their appeal, and find themselves traded in, for those now seen as being more attractive.

It's a tough career choice.

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And there's always that old say be careful who you stand on on the way up as you'll probably meet them on the way down:rolleyes:

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True.

One minute you're a high-class Westminster hooker.

The next, you're back chalkin' the price in shillings, on the bottom of your Tommy Ball's specials.

Not so bad.

As long as you remember to snip the string between your cut-price tart's trotters.

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While he is high flying the local Labour party might put him up for election in St Andrews next time round. It will be an interesting election that one.

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(As a resident in that ward.)

'I'm sorry, it's a no from me.'

Which means he won't be going forward to the next round.

:D

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Well It would surprise me he's so far up himself, hes just a narcissist on an ego trip

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This, in reply to elections in St Andrews ward.

Think it through.

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We aren't able to think for ourselves.

We have to leave it to those we elect, to do that for us.

As witnessed by Graham Jones, thinking a referendum about membership of the E.U. was beyond our understanding.

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I feel sure you've played that record before.

John Prescott said something quite interesting on Question Time last Thursday about an EU referendum which it's pretty hard to deny being true - the whole country had the chance to speak out on EU membership at the last general election by voting for UKIP.

They didn't do terribly well.

I'm not against a referendum, sooner or later it's inevitable in my view, but we've long had the option.

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UKIP is a one trick pony, that's why nobody voted for them, no doubt MR ED will promise a referendum for the next GE much in the way Tony did and then once elected renege on the promise ;)

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I have a spooky feeling they'll do slightly better at the next General Election.

Unless the mainstream parties wake up, and realise how important an issue this is for the vast majority of people.

They might decide to dangle a pre-election carrot, and promise of a referendum if elected.

Though I think the unable to think for themselves public, are wising up to those particular lies from our politicans.

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Probably each post on here, made by those elected to think for us, equates to ten votes for a non-mainstream political party.

Keep 'em coming.

Please.

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50 votes if your an MP Rindi;)

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Although I'm in complete agreement with your first three statements, you seem to have found another line to trot out about 'being unable to think for ourselves' as some form of sarcastic cleverness. I'm sure we'll hear this over and over and OVER in the vain hope that someone someday will laugh with you.

Try to grasp this - occasionally, we all have to admit that there are people out there who know more about certain subjects than we do. I'll freely admit that Graham Jones knows far more about the EU situation than I do.

Apparently you will not.

If you choose to berate someone for making a decision based on a more informed standpoint then that's your prerogative but for myself I will have a little faith on this occasion. We may not agree with decisions in Westminster but the only alternative is to keep asking different MPs until one day you find one who shares your view, which presumably is the 'correct' one.

I'm no great fan of the EU but I'm savvy enough to realise that pulling out is not a swift or painless process.

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There is far more pain staying in for ordinary folk, but of course we've already been told that we don't matter anymore:mad:

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When?

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Which plannet have you been on since May 2011 it certainly isn't plannet Earth thats for sure, whats this thread all about for a start!!!!!!!!!

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Britain out

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I don't ever recall being told that I don't matter anymore, that's all. I note that the Conservatives weren't exactly falling over themselves to vote in favour of it either. The subject isn't going to go away and sooner or later someone is going to have to deal with it properly but I come back to my point about referendums having to be done properly and an EU vote would involve some serious publicity to point out the facts.

Bring it on, I'm in favour in principle, but at the moment I suspect a lot of people would vote based on their 'knowledge' from the media and that is far from having the full facts.

You of all people should know this given your background.

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More likely that the politicians would vote as per their party diktat and whips required them to.
Can you honestly say that politicians are more open than the media? - just listen to any interview on TV or radio with a politician and see if a question put to them is truly answered, in fact is it answered at all?

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I agree(in principle) with much of what you have said, but while we may not be as savvy as someone else(of course there is always someone who knows more than we do...doesn't mean we can't learn)...if we can recognise that we need more information, then the information is out there.

OK, it won't come and knock on your door...you have to make the effort to look for it....and when you have found it you need to carefully balance the pro's and the con's.

Coming out will not be an easy task(we should have been offered a referendum long before we were so tied into the organisation - which is purely political, not trade as we were told when we first got sucked in)....but then neither is it impossible. There is a lot of political scaremongering going on, to persuade people to follow the line of least resistance.

In the main, I feel very jaundiced at what most politicians tell me, and am prone to ask myself what they(the politician) has to gain from from what he/she is telling me....and that is a very sad state of affairs and I would suggest it is(in part) why there is so much apathy about voting....we no longer believe that our voices and opinions are heard, and more importantly taken note of/acted on.
Politics seems to be more about smoke and mirrors, and 'spin'(which is a euphemism for lies).

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I am sure he will know a lot more about the subject in his position and is probably told things we are not but it would be nice to know why we are supposed to be better in the EU - I am not convinced we are so would like someone to convince me.

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What pain is it causing ordinary folk?

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How much is it costing you in taxes to help bail out the cobbled up mess that is the Euro, I can't for the life in me know why we should pay a red cent to bail out the likes of Grease Italy Portugal, and Spain is looking iffy, after all this country had the common sense not to enter the system as there was always a chance of it ending in tears and it sure as hell has.

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These are questions people could have sought answers to, if, and it's a big if, Graham Jones and his ilk had the balls to acknowledge that people are quite capable of making their own minds up, in a referendum, as to whether we want to continue as members of the European Union, or not.

Ih his words, a referendum would 'settle this issue democratically'.

Unfortunately he decided to vote against us having that democratic right.

Knowing, as he does, that the concept is far too complex for us ordinary folks to understand.

Er...no, it isn't.

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Does he know what democratically means?

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Don't be silly Max he a politician, democracy is tailored to suite their own needs

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Hurrah.

On this rare occasion, you're partly right.

This issue will be discussed, over, and over, until the matter is resolved.

You're wrong, in thinking I come on here to amuse anyone other than myself.

I'm strictly amateur.

There are others, who raise much bigger laughs.

Albeit unintentionally.

It's the way you tell 'em.

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I'm sure he does.

It's in the dictionary.

Coming before hypocrisy.

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I would like to know why as well.

We were told we should bail out Ireland because our banks had investments there but would it not have been cheaper to let Ireland fail and just bail out our banks instead?

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I thought we had done that once already.

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The UK is actually making a few quid out of that deal, in simplistic terms because Ireland has a poor credit rating, the UK, along with other countries, borrowed on their behalf at a lower interest rate, gave them the money and now charge Ireland a higher interest rate than the borrowers are paying to the banks.

It's one of the reasons why the Greeks are telling the Eurozone to get stuffed, and they have a point, Germany et al, get richer by charging exorbitant rates which the population of Ireland, (and soon to be Spain), have to pay back, because they were suckered into joining the Euro and now have the financiers of these countries, (who incidentally got Irelan

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There's no greater gift, than helping out your fellow European brothers.

Give, give, give.

There's no need to ever stop this act of kindness.

The U.K.'s European Union contributions - The gift that keeps on giving.

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Totally agree Neil, seems like GB have to bail out any lame duck, it might be an idea if we actually bailed ourselves out first before being so kind to others

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Slow internet screwed my previous post, should have read....

The UK is actually making a few quid out of that deal, in simplistic terms because Ireland has a poor credit rating, the UK, along with other countries, borrowed on their behalf at a lower interest rate, gave them the money and now charge Ireland a higher interest rate than the borrowers are paying to the banks.

It's one of the reasons why the Greeks are telling the Eurozone to get stuffed, and they have a point, Germany et al, get richer by charging exorbitant rates which the population of Ireland, (and soon to be Spain), have to pay back, because they were suckered into joining the Euro and now have the financiers of these countries, (who incidentally got Ireland into the mess by promising the Earth if they joined the Euro), basically running the economy and therefore governing Ireland

I hope the Greeks stick to their guns. Go Greece! I for one am rooting for you

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...and I've just eaten some stuffed olives.

Which in some small way, I'm hoping might help boost their economy, in this time of crisis.

Give, give, give.

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Ya will be using olive oil on the brunch later:rolleyes:

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Pasta, and Spanish omlette for lunch.

You have to be fair.

Share it about.

Greece isn't the only E.U. economy on the brink of finacial meltdown.

Give, give, give.

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I know, I know, its Irish Stew for tea today:D

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Graham Jones MP: Something just feels wrong about the People's Pledge

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

So much waffle, I'm off to buy some jam.







'I made this point to Europhobes who wrote to me demanding I vote with them...

I felt the argument moved against the anti-EU campaigners was the tone and content of the 29 letters I received. None of the content contributed much to the debate. Many opened up with threatening comments...'




Anyone want to own up to being one of the Hyndburn Twenty Nine?

Wasn't me.

He's not worth the price of a stamp.

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Still, it's nice he's found somewhere to share his highly intellectual thoughts...with no one imparticular. Now he's no longer such a regular contributer on here.

There may be few readers for his blog, compared to Accy Web, but at least there's no demanding questions to be answered. Which can be such a challenging bore.

Besides, if anyone did read it, any uppity dissenters are so much easier to deal with on your own blog.

Bless.

Re: Did Graham Jones do the right thing?
 

Nor me.......I would never start a letter with any kind of threat.......tactics like that mean that you haven't got much of a case......certainly not one that you believe in.

Re: Did Graham Jones do the right thing?
 

The Hyndburn 29, reminds me of the Weatherfield one Rindi, but she was innocent:rolleyes:

Re: Did Graham Jones do the right thing?
 

i suppose we will have to take his word about the threatening letters

whats his word worth these days

is it as assured as there will always be tax or as assured as greece paying back its debts ?

if i was a pubic figure and recieved threats i would ring the police but i suppose it would depend on how serious teh threats were

Re: Did Graham Jones do the right thing?
 

A pennie stick of stanish accyman:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:na not even that;)