Britcliffe monthly. - Page 24

Bernard Dawson · 07-02-2009, 19:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I'll hav a punt, Bernard Dawson, and if I'm right I'm very disoppinted, because having known Bernard from school days I always thought he was an upfront sort of a guy.

It's not a bad guess. What exactly have I not been upfront about? The vast majority of people on Accy Web don't use their real name,and I have no problem with that.

I joined Accy Web to join in the debate on local issues. As for as I know there are three other Councillors who post on Accy Web,all of them Labour.

I would hope jaysay that you could use your influence within the local Conservative Party to persuade Conservative Councillors to join in the debate on local issues that matter to people.

Royboy39 · 07-02-2009, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

It's not a bad guess. What exactly have I not been upfront about? The vast majority of people on Accy Web don't use their real name,and I have no problem with that.

I joined Accy Web to join in the debate on local issues. As for as I know there are three other Councillors who post on Accy Web,all of them Labour.

I would hope jaysay that you could use your influence within the local Conservative Party to persuade Conservative Councillors to join in the debate on local issues that matter to people.

Why.......you are managing to spin you theories and bullshine on your own.
Defend your corner on the current situation and let Accweb members take pot shots at you.

Bernard Dawson · 07-02-2009, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Why.......you are managing to spin you theories and bullshine on your own.
Defend your corner on the current situation and let Accweb members take pot shots at you.

I am happy to do that, but as a local councillor I am also interested in what people think we the council should be doing to improve Hyndburn.

Accy Web it seems to me provides an excellent discussion format to discuss views on how Hyndburn can be improved.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a political slanging match.

cashman · 08-02-2009, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

I am happy to do that, but as a local councillor I am also interested in what people think we the council should be doing to improve Hyndburn.

Accy Web it seems to me provides an excellent discussion format to discuss views on how Hyndburn can be improved.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a political slanging match.

nice one, but ya can slang a little,tell roy to get stuffed.

Gayle · 08-02-2009, 08:56

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

Accy Web it seems to me provides an excellent discussion format to discuss views on how Hyndburn can be improved.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a political slanging match.

I agree, and that's why it is a shame that Conservative Councillors don't sign up. But I think that they think they would get a barracking from the other members on here and they possibly would but equally they'd be able to get their views over. Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean that they don't respect the debate.

Neil · 08-02-2009, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean that they don't respect the debate.

That is true for most of our members

garinda · 08-02-2009, 08:59

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Originally Posted by Gayle

I agree, and that's why it is a shame that Conservative Councillors don't sign up. But I think that they think they would get a barracking from the other members on here and they possibly would but equally they'd be able to get their views over. Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean that they don't respect the debate.

Perhaps it's because everyone's equal on here, and they'd find that too challenging.

Neil · 08-02-2009, 09:06

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Originally Posted by garinda

Perhaps it's because everyone's equal on here, and they'd find that too challenging.

I have met several Councillors and find them to be normal people just like you and I. Well if you can call us normal that is. The only people that I have noticed who don't appear to view them as equals are Council Officers

lancsdave · 08-02-2009, 09:07

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Originally Posted by Neil

Well if you can call us normal that is.

garinda · 08-02-2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by Neil

I have met several Councillors and find them to be normal people just like you and I. Well if you can call us normal that is. The only people that I have noticed who don't appear to view them as equals are Council Officers

Greg Pope manages to air his views, and join in the debate about issues we care about, without diminishing his gravitas as a serious politican.

Perhaps councillors who apparently resort to calling fellow councillors 'silly cows', don't trust themselves not to make 'vicous and vile attacks' on other members on here.

andrewb · 08-02-2009, 10:06

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

It's not a bad guess. What exactly have I not been upfront about? The vast majority of people on Accy Web don't use their real name,and I have no problem with that.

I joined Accy Web to join in the debate on local issues. As for as I know there are three other Councillors who post on Accy Web,all of them Labour.

I would hope jaysay that you could use your influence within the local Conservative Party to persuade Conservative Councillors to join in the debate on local issues that matter to people.

Do you think its appropriate for councillors to anonymously write to the paper on political issues? I see no difference here. Who are you? You've admitted you're a councillor, you may as well come up with a name. Anyone is free to hide behind a username on Accringtonweb, but as a councillor arguing political issues I'd hope you would have the morals to come out with who you are.

Taggy · 08-02-2009, 10:18

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Do you think its appropriate for councillors to anonymously write to the paper on political issues? I see no difference here. Who are you? You've admitted you're a councillor, you may as well come up with a name. Anyone is free to hide behind a username on Accringtonweb, but as a councillor arguing political issues I'd hope you would have the morals to come out with who you are.

I'm assuming Jaysay's guess at Bernard Dawson is correct!!....Just very surprised that Bernard has moved with the times and got a Computer!!

Best Regards - Taggy

cashman · 08-02-2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Do you think its appropriate for councillors to anonymously write to the paper on political issues? I see no difference here. Who are you? You've admitted you're a councillor, you may as well come up with a name. Anyone is free to hide behind a username on Accringtonweb, but as a councillor arguing political issues I'd hope you would have the morals to come out with who you are.

do you think its appropiate to make a issue out of someone joining accyweb under a username? that seems to me typical of idealist tory tactics, deflect from the real issues of the day n dispute sod all.

Gayle · 08-02-2009, 11:19

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Originally Posted by cashman

do you think its appropiate to make a issue out of someone joining accyweb under a username? that seems to me typical of idealist tory tactics, deflect from the real issues of the day n dispute sod all.

That's usually Andrew's tactic - deflect the issue along with blaming Labour for doing it first and the saying the Tories are ok if they do it because Labour have done it first and try to make Labour out to be hypocrites.

Is Bernard posting under a different name much different from Andrew posting information fed to him by someone else?

Bernard Dawson · 08-02-2009, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Taggy

I'm assuming Jaysay's guess at Bernard Dawson is correct!!....Just very surprised that Bernard has moved with the times and got a Computer!!

Best Regards - Taggy

Taggy Having a computer, and knowing out to use a computer is two different things. But you are right if I have progressed to a computer, then there is clearly hope for everybody.