Is Grooming a racist issue - Page 4

Margaret Pilkington · 28-06-2013, 17:26

they sent the sermon, but it was up to the individual mosques as to whether they used it.
In my book, actions speak louder than words.
When I hear that a muslim community has handed over one of its men to the police, because it has been discovered that they were 'grooming' young white/non muslim girls, then, and only then will I take this seriously.
Talk is cheap.

jaysay · 28-06-2013, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

they sent the sermon, but it was up to the individual mosques as to whether they used it.
In my book, actions speak louder than words.
When I hear that a muslim community has handed over one of its men to the police, because it has been discovered that they were 'grooming' young white/non muslim girls, then, and only then will I take this seriously.
Talk is cheap.

At least it's a start Margaret, and shows they are now aware of the situation

cashman · 28-06-2013, 17:38

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At least it's a start Margaret, and shows they are now aware of the situation

Aware yeh, prepared to put any weight behind this awareness............Do me a favour.

jaysay · 28-06-2013, 17:45

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Aware yeh, prepared to put any weight behind this awareness............Do me a favour.

prior to this they've kept stum

cashman · 28-06-2013, 17:48

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prior to this they've kept stum

Really, i agree, but i don't make excuses fer any of em.

jaysay · 28-06-2013, 17:51

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Really, i agree, but i don't make excuses fer any of em.

I'm not making excuses, I'd have strung the barstewards up by the gonads miself cashy never mind sending letters

cashman · 28-06-2013, 18:01

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I'm not making excuses, I'd have strung the barstewards up by the gonads miself cashy never mind sending letters

I am well aware yeh would, Still don't prevent yeh from not saying, they have done sod all,but pay lip service to the publics wishes.

jaysay · 28-06-2013, 18:12

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I am well aware yeh would, Still don't prevent yeh from not saying, they have done sod all,but pay lip service to the publics wishes.

They didn't even do that before

cashman · 28-06-2013, 18:13

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They didn't even do that before

True, but that seems good enough fer you.

Not fer me mister.

Retlaw · 28-06-2013, 18:38

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At least it's a start Margaret, and shows they are now aware of the situation

Aware of it, of course they are aware of it, but in their eyes they can do no wrong.

Margaret Pilkington · 28-06-2013, 19:06

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At least it's a start Margaret, and shows they are now aware of the situation

John, they have been aware of the situation for a very long time...but the muslim community chose to ignore what was going on in their midst...they have been denying that the problem exists for 20 years that I know of.

KiTChener · 28-06-2013, 19:31

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John, they have been aware of the situation for a very long time...but the muslim community chose to ignore what was going on in their midst...they have been denying that the problem exists for 20 years that I know of.

Maybe they choose to ignore the situation because these men are told from childhood that women, especially white/non Muslim women are worthless....

And their own women seem to accept this thinking....

How often do you see them walking three paces behind the man?

Margaret Pilkington · 28-06-2013, 19:43

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Maybe they choose to ignore the situation because these men are told from childhood that women, especially white/non Muslim women are worthless....

And their own women seem to accept this thinking....

How often do you see them walking three paces behind the man?

Of course that is the case...and I am sure this has been mentioned in the earlier parts of this thread.
Their women think that because non muslims dress in the way that they do(western style) that these girls are of low morals...and as such it is alright for their boys to 'practice' on them......in fact in one of the grooming cases, one of the asian mothers blamed the child victim and said that her son was innocent of any wrongdoing.
I wonder how loud this womans protest would have been if it had been her daughter being sexually abused by a non muslim male.
I'm sure you can guess.

For many years the police and Social Services have buried their heads in the sand and not wanted to say anything about these cases for fear of being labelled racist.

KiTChener · 28-06-2013, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Of course that is the case...and I am sure this has been mentioned in the earlier parts of this thread.
Their women think that because non muslims dress in the way that they do(western style) that these girls are of low morals...and as such it is alright for their boys to 'practice' on them......in fact in one of the grooming cases, one of the asian mothers blamed the child victim and said that her son was innocent of any wrongdoing.
I wonder how loud this womans protest would have been if it had been her daughter being sexually abused by a non muslim male.
I'm sure you can guess.

For many years the police and Social Services have buried their heads in the sand and not wanted to say anything about these cases for fear of being labelled racist.

Fear of being labelled 'racist' deters so many otherwise sensible people from expressing their true views..... even stops our 'social workers' from fully investigating their suspicions when non-whites are involved.

Guinness · 28-06-2013, 23:39

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Fear of being labelled 'racist' deters so many otherwise sensible people from expressing their true views..... even stops our 'social workers' from fully investigating their suspicions when non-whites are involved.

Not entirely true...social workers don't investigate anything until it's too late..winterbourne, huntley, baby p, shipman etc..etc..etc..

This is one of those times when I don't agree with the labelling.

These guys are sick, disgusting, poor excuses for human beings..but i'm not convinced that religion has any part of this. There is a culture of some muslims who believe that females who dress (for want of a better word) provocatively, are of low morals..but then again that culture is shared by christian mormons, amish and even some blue stocking C of E's.

I don't recall reading that the teacher who was just jailed for taking a 15 year old to France was a christian, bet my life that if he'd been a muslim it would have been headlined, don't recall the muppets who mistreated the people in winterbourne labelled as christians, again bet my life that if they'd been muslims they sure as hell would have been.

The question here...'is grooming a racist issue'.....yes, because the mainstream media are making it so, but in reality it's been happening for a long, long time across a variety of cultures and religions