Jeremy Clarkson....Another Celeb Loose Lips. - Page 8

garinda · 11-11-2008, 23:23

Arghhh, that bloomin' edit button.

It always disappears the very second you see a glaring error.

The last line of first paragraph should read, 'which is quite frankly rubbish', and not 'which is quite franky ubbish'.

(Wasn't Franky Ubbish in one of the Mersey groups?)

Benipete · 11-11-2008, 23:54

Quote;(Wasn't Franky Ubbish in one of the Mersey groups?).

Not any longer - spent to much time in the pleasure dome.

Studio25 · 12-11-2008, 00:57

Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross have the freedom of speech to say the things they said because better people than they died for that freedom.

Those same people died so I can say it's offensive and should never have been broadcast.

Just because good people died for our freedom, it doesn't mean we have to exercise it ad-infinitum. Can we please let this thread die?

Boeing Guy · 12-11-2008, 06:55

Censor free speech and most comics would be out of a job, so would Mel Brooks

garinda · 12-11-2008, 08:01

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Originally Posted by Studio25

Can we please let this thread die?

...he posted, thus adding to the debate in the weighty thread, but then asked others not to do the same. Thus denying them the freedom to express their opinions, if they so wish.

A forum isn't a very interesting forum if people don't post, and a thread dies when people having nothing else to say, not when someone asks for it to die.

By the way, you posted in the wrong thread. This isn't the Brand/Ross thread, that is eleswhere. This is the Clarkson/free speech thread.

garinda · 12-11-2008, 08:08

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Censor free speech and most comics would be out of a job, so would Mel Brooks

Ever seen Have I Got News For You?

They make weekly jokes about what the programme's lawyers will allow them say, because of the laws that prevent the innocent being slandered, and rightly so.

Still, they valiantly soldier on, and still make people laugh.

garinda · 12-11-2008, 08:14

Are the 'special' schools still on half term?

jaysay · 12-11-2008, 09:20

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Originally Posted by garinda

Ever seen Have I Got News For You?

They make weekly jokes about what the programme's lawyers will allow them say, because of the laws that prevent the innocent being slandered, and rightly so.

Still, they valiantly soldier on, and still make people laugh.

I agree about HIGNFY its very irreverent in its approach to everyday issues, but I can't remember the prog ever being censored, but I maybe mistaken

Gayle · 12-11-2008, 09:49

I'm sorry but I'm still missing the point with Boeing Guy and Meccy - at what point does what Jeremy Clarkson said become an issue for freedom of speech? He wasn't trying to further a cause, highlight an issue that needed raising or even make a point about anything - he was being downright rude and disrespectful to people and their families who were victims of an awful situation.

I'm not actually arguing against freedom of speech - I think it's good that on the whole in this country that's what we have - but I just don't think this issue comes under that category heading.

garinda · 12-11-2008, 10:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I agree about HIGNFY its very irreverent in its approach to everyday issues, but I can't remember the prog ever being censored, but I maybe mistaken

It's censored before it's even broadcast, as is explained here in an interview with the programme's writers. Otherwise the B.B.C. would spend all our licence fees paying damages awarded by a court of law.

Some of the best jokes on the show must make the lawyers sweat! Do they cut much?

Dave Cohen: Among its many achievements, HIGNFY has re-defined the rules for what you can and cannot get away with. They sailed so close to the wind for so long without getting sued thanks to a team of lawyers who believed in what the show was trying to achieve.

Colin Swash: A Hat Trick lawyer and a BBC lawyer read script before the recording so some jokes get cut or fought over then. Straight after the show the producer goes to the lawyers and says "no problems there eh?" Every so often the lawyers will say "we'll talk tomorrow" - then they'll see the first edit, and barter from there.

Have I Got News For You - The HIGNFY Writing Team Interview - British Comedy Guide

Boeing Guy · 12-11-2008, 15:00

Garinda, special schools hahaha, you should write to the Readers Digest, they have a page for people like you.

Boeing Guy · 12-11-2008, 15:01

Oh and I will not get drawn into tit for tat name calling and put downs. so go ahead enjoy yourself it must be great to you

cashman · 12-11-2008, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Oh and I will not get drawn into tit for tat name calling and put downs. so go ahead enjoy yourself it must be great to you

oh i must be a complete numpty, please highlight this name calling, cos i sure as hell cant see it.

emamum · 12-11-2008, 15:17

I though Garindas special school comment was funny

jaysay · 12-11-2008, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

It's censored before it's even broadcast, as is explained here in an interview with the programme's writers. Otherwise the B.B.C. would spend all our licence fees paying damages awarded by a court of law.

Some of the best jokes on the show must make the lawyers sweat! Do they cut much?

Dave Cohen: Among its many achievements, HIGNFY has re-defined the rules for what you can and cannot get away with. They sailed so close to the wind for so long without getting sued thanks to a team of lawyers who believed in what the show was trying to achieve.

Colin Swash: A Hat Trick lawyer and a BBC lawyer read script before the recording so some jokes get cut or fought over then. Straight after the show the producer goes to the lawyers and says "no problems there eh?" Every so often the lawyers will say "we'll talk tomorrow" - then they'll see the first edit, and barter from there.

Have I Got News For You - The HIGNFY Writing Team Interview - British Comedy Guide

Thanks for that Rindi, very interesting for sure