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[emamum]

Originally Posted by roberty12

hi i am rob

lol, random post of the week !

we have a place to introduce yourself..Introduce Yourself - Accrington Web

welcome to accyweb

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Was reading a report last night regarding Tower Hamlets Council in London, it seems that all employees and councillors have been sent an Email asking them to observe the feast of Ramadan, by fasting so as not to upset the muslim employees who work for the council. No doubt this will actually have nothing to do with the muslims that work there just PC prats who are employed by the council. Where is all this PC crap going to end

Kiss my arse!!!

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Kiss my arse!!!

Who...Jatsay or the Councillors of Tower Hamlets?

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by Royboy39

Who...Jatsay or the Councillors of Tower Hamlets?

After reading the thread in full both of them (Jaysay for dangling the worm and for the LFC comment the other day) and the PC members of accyweb who will be the death of our country and then say it's not my fault.

[garinda]

Jambutty said that 'Blackburn has 17 councillors out of 69 councillors with immigrant sounding names'

I thought it would be interesting to apply his skewed logic to our own council, here in Hyndburn.

It appears we have at least two councillors with 'immigrant sounding names'.

Both Cllr. Jones, and Cllr. Roberts, sound suspiciously Welsh, and if the logic was to be stretched even further I might suggest that the two councillors were practicing Methodists, who were using their political power to force their religion on the unsuspecting public.

[andrewb]

What a load of nonsense. At school/college anybody fasting would do just that, they didn't need hand holding by the rest of the people who weren't fasting.

Perhaps the fasting councillors should just have a word with the non-fasting ones to tell them to not eat their food. It sounds like a school playground, not a group of people supposed to be running the borough services at the taxpayers expense.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by andrewb

What a load of nonsense. At school/college anybody fasting would do just that, they didn't need hand holding by the rest of the people who weren't fasting.

one of the few things we completely agree on cyfr.

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Sometimes I think I live in a different world to a lot of people on here, because I see no signs of Muslims wanting to "take over" or impose their views on the rest of us in my everyday life. How come the Muslim bloke who works in the next office will fast for Ramadam totally unconcerned about the rest of us chomping away on our lunchtime snacks (and will in fact make jokes about it, despite being part of a "humourless religion")? How come the Muslim girl in the local shop will serve me with my pork pie and cans of Guinness with her usual friendly smile? How come the Muslim family who live a few doors down will send us a Christmas card in a few months time?

Still, what do I know? If the newspapers say Muslims are making special demands, it must be true!

And you won’t see Mr and Mrs Average Muslim wanting to “take over” because that wouldn’t be very surreptitious. That is the whole point of being surreptitious, no one notices until it is too late.

Hitler’s mob didn’t take over Germany in one day. It took them years where bit by bit they weedled themselves into positions of authority until they were strong enough to take over. Did the fifth columnists in Europe during the last war announce to the Germans that they would throw them out of the country? No! They went about their normal daily lives, smiled sweetly as they served the Germans in the shops and cafes until the call came to take positive action.

The Muslim community do not need to make special demands. They have got the PC brigade running so scared that the PC lot are doing it for them.

[Wynonie Harris]

So every Muslim I come into contact with (including the Muslim members of this site) is part of a large-scale conspiracy to take over this country? Oh well, that's your point of view and you're entitled to it...personally, I don't buy it...and I certainly wouldn't class myself as a PC merchant!

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

So every Muslim I come into contact with (including the Muslim members of this site) is part of a large-scale conspiracy to take over this country? Oh well, that's your point of view and you're entitled to it...personally, I don't buy it...and I certainly wouldn't class myself as a PC merchant!

Come on Wynonie Harris you know I didn’t say that.

If left to their own devices 99% of Muslims would just live out their lives in harmony with the rest of us.

It is the minority of hard liners who are pushing for an Islamic state in every country that they emigrate to. But these hard liners know, that as the 99% are DEVOUT Muslims, when push comes to shove they will fall into line. Of course there will always be exceptions but they will be few and far between and are prepared to be ostracised.

For hundreds of years the Vatican kept the followers of the Roman Catholic faith in a grip of iron until Henry VIII broke the shackles. Even thereafter the Vatican controlled the lives of millions of people around the world and still does so right to this day – not in the western world so much but in Africa and S America.

In his “Rivers Of Blood” speech back in April 1968 Enoch Powell stated, “In fifteen or twenty years, on present trends, there will be 3,500,000 Commonwealth immigrants and their descendants”. He went on to say “Whole areas, towns and parts of towns across England will be occupied by different sections of the immigrant and immigrant descended population”.

I understand that there are barely 2 million Muslims in the UK today. 30 years ago there were nary a one. Are parts of towns across England occupied by different sections of the immigrant and immigrant descended population? You have to admit that there are. The only wrong part of that prediction is the time scale and probably the number. It has taken 30 odd years not 15 to 20.

Read his speech at http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/powell_press.htm

At the time Enoch Powell was branded a racist and lost his place on the Shadow Cabinet but subsequent events have proved him right.

[Mancie]

Hang on Jambutty are we talking about Muslims?...at no time does Enoch Powell mention "Muslims" in the speech.. he does mention "Negros" many times... "in 15-20 years time the black man will hold the whip hand over the white man".. not very well chosen words from a man you tell us was not racist!... the speech in full is here...Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech - Telegraph

[Wynonie Harris]

It depends what you mean by "devout". Just because a Muslim follows his religion devoutly does not necessarily mean that he is willing to follow the edicts of the "hardliners". My Muslim mate is devoutly fasting for Ramadan, but he tells me that he regards the hardliners with nothing but contempt (although, of course, he could be lying!).

As for Enoch Powell, it's a pity he didn't think about this in the fifties when he was the Minister of Health and actively encouraging immigrants to come over here to work in the NHS. However, you're right, there are areas where the predominant population is composed of immigrants and their descendants. However, I don't see how that proves that they are planning to "take over". There's an area near me that largely comprises those of West Indian extraction - are they planning to take over, too?

I agree that their are parallels to be drawn with pre-war Germany, though - just as Hitler and the Nazis sought to use the Jews as a scapegoat for all that was wrong with the country, so many in the UK are using "immigrants" in a similar way.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

There's an area near me that largely comprises those of West Indian extraction - are they planning to take over, too?

We have to be careful of the 'Silent Majority', How many Chinese are quietly serving away at all hours slowly infiltrating communities with their religions?

Still, I suppose if I had to be forced to eat King Prawn & fried Rice I'd struggle on somehow!

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Less

We have to be careful of the 'Silent Majority', How many Chinese are quietly serving away at all hours slowly infiltrating communities with their religions?

Still, I suppose if I had to be forced to eat King Prawn & fried Rice I'd struggle on somehow!

Damned inscrutable, these Oriental types! Still, I share your thoughts on King Prawn & Fried Rice...bring it on!

[MargaretR]

As an atheist I think that if the majority of the population need to believe, then the more religions there are, the better. It reduces the effect on politics of any one of them.

I recall in the days before immigration when the Church of England dominated and there were extremist christians who made Sundays useless and miserable.