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Thanks :D


Source Organiser Date Total
Paypal Total Club £4,198.96
SMS & Phoneline Club £621.00
Private Donations Club £14,703.00
Fans Forum Club 04/09/09 £163.55
Bucket Donations(Accrington) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £1,400.00
Bucket Collection(Bury FC) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £2,100.00
Bucket Collection(Burnley Town Centre) Stanley Ultras 08/09/09 £23.17
SOS Cup Burnley v Accrington 08/09/09 £35,853
Darlington CC League Match Club 11/09/09 £14,184.07
Total £73,246.75

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thought it was said 18K from fridays game?:confused:

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They may list different bits?? Gate, Wages Etc.?? Just a thought...

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an explantion would be nice as wynonie saw 18K on fishy other day.:confused:

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:confused: And me cashy! im getting very:confused:;)

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they prob remembered to pay the tax on the 18,000?

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:eek: Harsh Mr. God; harsh.....:D

Maybe they can't add the wage donations until they put the wages up at the end of the week.....:)

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You don't need an accountancy degree to work out that an attendance of 3228 producing gate receipts of £14184 is equivalent to each paying customer spending £4.39 on the gate each.

Even if at the most 1000 of those fans were season ticket holders or freebies it would create an average spend of £6.37 each for paying customers (which we are).

An adult ticket costs £13. Unless 1750 of the fans were under 16s. You do the maths.

Something just doesn't add up!!!

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Correct... other expenses. Do you think the match officials worked for nothing, free electricity etc etc. They all add up ;)

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True......:)

Polite Request…:)

Could Rob or someone in authority just give us a quick answer to the gate receipts question and how the SOS donation of gate fee’s and the wages contribution breaks’ down.

We’re a couple of weeks in to this situation with the SOS battle to stave off the Excise man; is there any chance of having a forum Q&A session in the former format that we use to have; maybe limited to 2 or 3 questions per supporter…….

I know there was the Fans Forum and there have been media releases; but not every question is asked or answered.

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Well if that's the case, there's no hope for us, with all those expenses hanging over our heads.

I thought with the measures taken place we should be breaking even +18k per month with an average attendence of approx 1500 fans.

Plus 35k from 5000 fans at the burnley match for a reasonably cheap ticket. In comparison to 14k or 18k from 3000 fans the the normal entrance fee.

Open and honest is the future. Divulge!!!

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Firstly I would say that B.F.C. and Mr. Kilby, have been very kind to us over "Expenses" at Turf Moor last Tuesday. :) (5301 crowd)

Secondly of the 3228 at the Darlo match some were F.O.C. some were consessions £8. and some were ST holders again F.O.C. Whilst I know of ST holders paying again - some upto £40. :eek: When you break it down and take into account heating, lighting, officials Etc. It would be foolish of the club to inflate the figure by taking less out (Like B.F.C. Have done) because we would only be robbing ourselves.:rolleyes:


Did EW not say that the Free Torquay game lost him circa £15K??

It is another £14K in the S.O.S. Fund.. :) :)

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Maybe they're holding some cash back for later. One last push!!! To keep up the momentum:)

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Maybe, but would not think so, we will have to see :) :) :)

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"All money recieved" on Friday was supposed to go into the fund.

I am very dissapointed that reciepts of just over £14k were collected like others on here. It seems £10k light going off season ticket numbers and the number of adults that were there.

The sums don't add up. I was working until 7pm, made the extra effort to rush back for the cause and feel let down.

The fans are doing their bit, but it is a one sided effort.

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from what i heard tonight V.A.T. paid is a factor.

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:)You could be right cashy ,what ever the gate takings where they would have to pay V.A.T. my rough calculations ie att 3,228 a quick brake down ....700 ST .. 500 FBEES if all attended..800 under 16 and conssesions leaving 1228 at an av of £14=£17,192 less 15% V.A.T=£14,613,20 ac/amount £14,184,07p even by my figures the club do well to compleat in the league WLL DONE THE POWERS THAT BE:):bow8::wave8:

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was not aware until i queried it, doubt if many folk are, think it would be a good thing if these factors "had been" explained? many, me included were expecting more dosh, i am happy now, but fact it was not clarified beforehand may possibly give ammo to some bad intentioned git.

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So if the V.A.T. Comes into play, if we have raised £73K then we have raised nearer £90K... Before that tax chap has taken some cash from the fund raised to pay him off :confused: :confused: What a great business idea...:) I bet that tax chap is rubbing his hands with glee :rolleyes: :) Never mind only £235K to go, plus another £30Kish in taxes.......:eek:

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Why 500 freebies? If that happened most games there would be no gate.

Plus the U16 and concessions still have to pay £8 and £5.

If I paid £20 to go in in,the extra £7 should not be subject VAT, it is a donation.

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:) May be may be not may be the burnley game and darlo game but not the donations which are given freely as a GIFT to the club over to you MRT

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thats the way things work donations are a gift,as fer the Freebies chewbacca, its called speculate to accumulate, ya get a good gate,good atmosphere, which there was both, its quite possible some would enjoy n return, better gates is what the club needs badly, well worth trying in my book.

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In hindsight, free admission and a donation would have avoided the VAT, but then how many deadheads would have turned up and donated nowt :(

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At this rate selling out every match will leave us well short.

That is why it is dissapointing.

The majority of people have already donated.

The club needs to come up with something else it can sell to save itself.

Ideas:

10 year season tickets (you times this years price by five both winners)

Stanley Debentures

A new SoS Third Shirt in blue

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i like idea 1
i dont know what idea 2 means
idea 3 looks decidedly dodgy bearing in mind that our solicitors are in contact with the current kit manufacturer for selling our shirt at half price for themselves.

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I would suggest a substantial ground sponsor would outweigh all those.

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We’ve yet to see a major donation coming in from prominent businesses, local or national let alone a Ground Sponsor; current gates, the excise man and uncertainty of the future of the board will do little to stimulate interest unless we can respond on the ground and push for the play off position or better.

We’ve now’t to offer a major sponsor unless we can be assured of survival and at the moment we don’t seem to be able to coordinate current effort without the same few faces giving what little time they have.

We need strong positive dialog with the media in order to promote what’s good at Stanley and a strong focus on what’s happening to ensure development and consistency within the club. All I have heard in recent weeks is “poor Stanley” an almost begging attitude towards resolving the situation.

We need firm foundations to build from and we desperately need to attract sustainable investment, a quick look back at our past will show that the old methods of holding out the jerry and; or selling key assets have served no meaningful benefit.

These things may well be going on in the background but we’re seeing or hearing now’t from the promotion staff and things are looking shabby; indifference towards stock, unclear attitudes within the shop and a major shirt producer allegedly selling off Replica shirts on eBay are not promoting our best interests….we have been asked to buy mercantile product to support the SOS appeal and a chap on Friday night could give us £40 for a shirt? How many more £40s walked away on what was most likely the biggest night of the season, how many bought a Stanley Shirt for £20 off eBay?

Tremendous work has been done by the club to get this far, far more work was probably done by the nameless few who again donate time and effort in the name of Accrington Stanley. Public funding will start to slow down around the next week or so; good ideas seem to be floated and then fade; Stanley has two good sized car parks, couple of local car boots or a antiques fair may give us a couple of more grand but what else? Who’s coordinating, pushing, promoting.

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Agree Dave!!....But isn't the likelihood of this becoming reality, due to the Status Quo, more remote than ever ??.

Seems that all I post lately amount to little but mini-Jeremiads !...but all that I read and hear suggests to me that the gleam at the end of this very dark tunnel is as yet, difficult to discern....But I really hope that this is due to my failing eyesight or my ever-developing pessimistic view of the world in general!

(Alfred .E. daren't even look!!... He's waiting for some news that will cheer him up a bit!!...anybody got any??)

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YEH Tell Alfred.E. were gonna Survive mate..........Cashy has spoken!

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It must be deja vu all over again Cashy!!.

Thanks from us both !!...'HE' say's 'I've been up and down so many times that I feel as if I'm in a revolving door !'...

'ON STANLEY!!!...ON!!!'

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Poor Alfred.E. ...the world he lives in,,, revolving doors that go up and down ???????? !!!!!!!

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The figure states "Gate Receipts Only". When I came through the "Golden Turnstile" I gave my donation and it went into a black box. Hopefully there will be another total for donations made at the game which will not be liable to VAT.

Why doesn't somebody at the Club make a public statement of how much they want for ground sponsorship for the rest of the season and then we might get interested parties.

Just for interest £17,192 less the VAT content = £14949.56

I am sure that the Club are not going to understate the amount raised as this would not be very beneficial. As I have said before we just have to trust the Club at the moment until we are out of this mess. If people read some of the comments on this thread I think it may deter them from donating. So please, let's be positive for the next few weeks.

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:) £17,192 less 15% V.A.T=£14,613,20 was that off my post jeff it was only a rough calculation on my part not actual:)

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Yes I think it was. It was only a little point, no offence meant.:)

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Now your getting warm KJ !!....but why no mention of ' Deja vu all over again ??'

But don't feel sorry for him KJ !....Ours is a very happy world believe me.....
Just Alfred.E. His alter-ego A.A.MUZIK(That's his Avatar you can see!) and his Dog ( Named 'Coleman'), and of course little old me!!.

We are of course all rather concerned about what is going on 'Stanleywise',(They are, I'm afraid, to quote my old Grandfather,..'Puncin a soft baw ageean t'wind',!). But with the support of Wynonie and Cashy we are all just about bearing up !!.. .

Now it's medication time !!............Regards and Best Wishes.

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daft as it sounds, whilst we embark on this "Gigantic" struggle, cashy is becoming slightly more Optimistic Daily, that we will Triumph! perhaps its the medication i took in the 60s thats helping.:D who knows? but thats me. ONWARDS N UPWARDS.:)

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The freebies had been organised in advance as part of the Friday night thing, as Cashy said to create atmos :theband:. Most of the free tickets were to students Etc. So do not think we lost out too much on them and as we did not get over 4K on the gate we did not lose gate money for paying customers. :)

The club tried to take the initiative and boost the gate, hats off to them for trying :)

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I too like idea 1, :)

This is idea 2,
Definitions of debenture on the Web:

unsecured bond: the ability of a customer to obtain goods or services before payment, based on the trust that payment will be made in the future
a certificate or voucher acknowledging a debt
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn :eek: :(


Idea 3 is taking the mick a little :o :)

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Out of the 500 given out I bet at most only 100 were used.

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do we have a totol to day or is it still 70 plus

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sum one need to changed the crewe game on the sos page to friday sexy nite footy

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This is not a negative post :) Just noticed that there is not much movement or activity on the S.O.S. Site at the moment.. The pledges have all but dried up, maybe people are waiting until payday :). Just hope that the eye has not been taken off the ball :( And people have lost sight of the task in hand.

Still waiting for the club to inform us of the next round of "Fund Raisers"

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When was it last updated???

What about the buckets from the weekend games at Anfield etc?!?

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been updated today by a couple hundred, don't think anfields been done yet Mr Mathew, waiting permission i think, sure someone will say if thats no so. n Valairian yer post aint negative yer just speaking as ya see, nowt wrong wi that.;)

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There were no bucket collections at Anfield last weekend.

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Cheers Cashy :)

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As LD said no collections at Anfield, think it is later in the month? Not sure about any other collections though?

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Some fundraisers are utilising the few weeks we have left, like ourselves, to collect funds for the club rolling over to give a better total & chance for people to donate by which ever means. Just because it maybe quiet doesnt mean funds have dried up - just its ongoing:D

On going stuff:

Raffle
SOS Shirts
SOS Mugs - redash
General donations

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From the SOS site.....'Accrington Stanley is a famous brand recognised around the globe'....

The population of which is 6785 Billion !!...Yet it would seem that not many of these are interested in 'The Brand'...'The Name'..or the Club's survival ....as a dearth of good news in this respect from the Club, via it's Official site, would attest to !.

Very little is being said which would inspire any real confidence in those who have, and continue to make a contribution to the SOS Appeal in their own little corner.

I appreciate SM that the OSC and others are trying so hard to maintain the tempo of 'Giving' wherever possible...but would you not agree that 'Releases' from Club Officials relating to EXACTLY what is resulting from everyone's efforts, are not only confusing, but also demotivating to a degree?.

Sorry if I sound a little gloomy at this point in time, but like so many others
I speak to and communicate with, I am worried by a 'status quo of creeping apathy' which is gathering on t'Stanley's already somewhat indefinable horizon !.

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ????'

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I think that the positivity and negativety will ebb and flow from day to day. at the moment there is little ongoing between fundraisers so the mood is a bit depressing - but then as soon as the next bit of good news comes in we will be on our uppers again.

As has been said numerous times though, it doesn't matter what we think of whom and why, Stanley has to survive no matter what.

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the thing is wi this timescale as i see it, ya can't have events everyday, just aint gonna happen, events being planned, take time @ permissions granted, n we all know what Red Tape is like. all we can do is being done, all we can hope is they get it right, so keep the faith. NO SURRENDER.;) p.s. was the 11th hour when permission was granted fer the burnley game.

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'SURRENDER..'.....A word NOT in MY vocabulary Cashy!!...but you know what an easily depressed 'worrit' I can be...and with little encouragement at that !!.

Of course I totally agree with what both Macca and yourself say, that Survival is ALL that matters. After all, who can possibly imagine a world in which League Football being played by Accrington Stanley didn't exist ??.

So, I'll look for some small shaft of encouraging Sunshine to shine through the darkening skies (Now that is lyrical!)....and continue to shout at the top of my voice....'ON STANLEY....ON!!!.

( As will 'THE OTHER TWO '!!)

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Good Man, i'll leave ya summat to ponder on- Hard Work always benefits Long Term, Lazyness benefits ya now.:);)

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not seen this anywhere, good on yer Phil & Francesco:)

East Lancashire officers beat the drum for Accrington Stanley (From Lancashire Telegraph)

would be good to get it on the sos website:)

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nice one Phil, keep it up buddy

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Altho seems its not shouting at the roof tops money is still being raised, think once that comes in it may suprise u. Ok 12 squid was raised today at our shop, does that inspire hope? Could do with a big bro announcer day 23 example, funds at total x amount etc lol to make it feel its upping ? Lol

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everyone can reckon up, its gotta be done simple as.

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As my old Grandad from Albert Street, Ossy, used to put it...
' It's not much if you say it fast!!'....but in spite of my rather pessimistic view of things, I feel that one way or another the total will be found..paid..and we'll still be watching 'The Reds' climb up the League towards GLORY!! (Is that better Cashy??).

'ON STANLEY!!!....ON!!!.

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Thanks for the update SM, keep up the good work :D

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Good find Google Page Ranking, agree needs to be on S.O.S. & Official Site... :)

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We know that, cashy. So, next question. How? Major sponsorship? Are the big names at the club making progress with this? All the valiant money-raising efforts underway at the moment are not going to reach that sort of total.

Sorry, but it's no longer enough to say "it's gotta be done". Raising that sort of money is simply beyond the reach and resources of us ordinary folk. I'm not being unnecessarily negative or pessimistic - just realistic. Emotion will not raise what is needed.

Sooner or later, there's a bullet to be bitten. Only major sponsorship or a huge donation will raise the money needed.

Just my thoughts.

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the single most relevant sentence that will typed over the whole eight week saga :(

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ya may be correct Revived Red but 2 ways to look at this My Glass is half full, Yours is half empty.:);)

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Mel, when i collect the £100 in that i've got in sponsors can i drop it in at your shop? wouldnt know where to take it otherwise

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Are we still waiting for other streams of revenue from the Darlington game??? SOS website says gate receipts only???

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Yeah u can drop it off if u wish, will make sure the club gets it personally as a seperate donation for filling the part u have played in raising funds for our little local club, with thanks, no prob :)

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i aint bothered about making it a seperate donation, just put it with the other money you have for the club, ta

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Every donation is logged that is made including any sos sales, raffle or donations to the bucket anyway even ammon donations are accounted for, and all goes direct to the sos fund only. I think its only fair u should get credit for your efforts :)

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just put me down as an anonymous donation then lol

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Im remaining hopeful so thats half full then lol, nothing more we can do other than try and reserve judgement when the 8 week deadline is up and the taxman's final decision.

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Has anyone seen this weeks accy observer ... including the letters page?

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Okies, will do will receipt it for u as proof of the donation and thank you :)

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i was gobsmacked with what Margaret Heap had to say

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You'll have to tell us more, we haven't got one today

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buy one tomorrow then, cant be bothered typing it all out

basically she was moaning that stanleys bucket collection in town shouldnt have been allowed because the Multiple Sclerosis society where collecting on the same day, she also moaned that the stanley fans who where collecting where shaking their buckets and going upto people asking for donations

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Well done I say, keep shaking those buckets.:)

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Here, here Baggy, we have to raise the cash...

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qoute' One of the rules is that there is to be no shaking of collection tins, another that no member of the public should be approached or asked for money' un qoute

thats something else this lady had to say

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Always to be expected to have some critics par of course.

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Does she write to the paper complaining about the Romanian beggars asking people for money in the town centre ?

Perhaps not , they don't shake a bucket :rolleyes:

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That applies to charities collecting but since were not one (yet :D) I don't think it applies to us ;)

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Tough ****......

And I personally spoke to the collectors of MS flag day, told them we would be away at 11 to the football & they were fine, no problems

Stupid meddling witch....

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I would love to see what she would do if something SHE really cared about was going to die in 8 weeks. Something that brings her joy, something that she thinks about constantly every day of every week of every month, something that unites her friends, that makes her smile, laugh, cry, shout, something that she feels so strongly about that she would feel physically sick at the thought of it dying.......

No, she wouldn't shake a bucket at a stranger.... Oh what a woman!

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Well said WM ;) Keep on shaking those buckets :D

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The only glass that matters, cashy, is Stanley's. That is about 24% full. What do you see, cashy, that will fill the remaining 76%?

Be honest. No emotion, no fervent expressions of hope and expectation!

Bearing in mind what has already been done and what is currently being done, how do you see us raising 3 times what we have raised in the remaining 5 weeks?

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Couldn't agree more :)

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i reckon this woman who wrote to the paper is nowt but a self righteous prat, i go accy many sat mornings, afternoons early also, most weeks there are collectors fer summat or other, many of those collecting fer these charities shake there tins, so what some do, some don't, i don't mind at all, its right to me that they draw attention to their cause, its also up to the individual if they donate, no-ones twisting yer arm, she should just get a life, instead of hoping to see her name in print.:rolleyes:

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She, whomever she may be. Is entitled to her opinion and is entitled to express it in public or via the media. It isn’t her fault that the board of Accrington Stanley ****ed us over by miss managing the affairs of the club. Venting your spleen against this woman; “witch or not” serves no purpose.

We “Accrington Stanley” are in very deep **** and we have less than four weeks tops to find a solution to this nightmare.

Now I have berated the ASSF and Mr. Khan for making demands for shares in return for financial assistance and sought to give Mr. O’Neil and the Board opportunity to resource funds via other means, so far we have raised a little more than £75,000 and those funding streams are drying up slowly, between now and the dead line I would doubt that “shirts, buckets, raffles, sponsored walks or runs, car boot sales and begging or outright prostitution would net us more than another £25,000, what we need now is major corporate sponsorship or donations from the business community or other well heeled clubs; when it comes to good will and relying on friends you soon find out how few friends you actually have.

Now is a time for heroes……if they don’t work their magic we’re ****ed.

I expected to see the club come forward and grasp this problem with both hands….what we need to see is someone from the club coming forward and managing this situation, co coordinating the fund rising effort and utilising media links to boost Stanley’s public profile to those that have the means to end this ****. Begging won’t cut it David, getting a finger out of each others arse and managing this situation just might….

Speak to us and tell us what your doing to resolve this situation; who are we speaking too and who’s offering what; and if their not offering anything why not.

Give us an answer to the shirt issue between the producer and the sale of shirts on eBay, are they in breach or have we not paid for them.

Give people a reason to part with their money…..The rest of us should wake up to the reality of this situation…….We like the Phoenix may well die again.

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Hereford fan here and I have to start off by saying fair play for trying to save your club but after comments made by a number of your fans and considering you have the biggest arse of a manager in football a number of Hereford fans would love to see your club go down the ****ter.

I'm afraid that for you to compete as a club on your on your own crowds you'd have to go down because your crowds arw worse than embarassing and fair play you've got some loyal fans but who cares doesn't matter unless you have crowd that can give a club enough money to compete in the respective division.

I really don't see why everyone has to bail you out on this and I'm afraid I can't wish you good luck because I don't think you deserve it.
We'll be expecting your childish flags Hereford-Welsh etc.If you see a welcome to wales sign on the way down then I'd turn around because you'd have gone way past Herefordshire that is firmly situated in England.

I will also be doing a tax collection for myself outside the away end turnstyle because recently I spend all my money getting ****ed and just bought a shiny new car leaving me short changed and unable to pay my bills. All donations will be appreciated and hopefully I'll get enough to pay the tax man off at the end of next year.

Regards,

Daire.

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BAA BAA black sheep have you any wool?

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thats summat new one who can write.:rolleyes:

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he can't spell properly though Cashy, must be fresh outta approve skoo

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I hope you are not planning to bring those red buckets on Saturday...

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Daire,

You too are entitled to your opinion; but it won’t cut much lamb on here……The club might well be teetering on the edge of the pan, but rest assured we will come out of this mess; and even on our gate numbers we will prosper; Why? Because we have faith in that “Fat Arsed” manager and he will take us where you have just been; unlike you, we won’t be falling down the leagues like the price of lamb at the outbreak of a Bull **** epidemic. On Saturday we will show you just why we will survive.

Regards

Doug

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thats the thing about being up here pal, local rivalries are put to one side when a clubs in the crap, as stanley did back in 92 fer a local rival n burnley have done fer stanley last week, its called fan loyalty, hope your lots never in the crap cos ya have no-one down yon only sheep. it will be a tough slog fer us n who knows? but it will be end of story fer you if it happens to your lot, just dwell on that one fool.:rolleyes:

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troll

a bit more verbosity than the usual type but a troll never the less

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JAMMO a troll macca? never.:D

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Daire!!.....You may well be a Hereford Fan, but it is so obvious that you are NO Football Fan!.....and most definately an individual who has no inkling whatsoever regarding any of the ongoing affairs at Accrington Stanley Football Club.
One thing is for sure though ,and that is that there is no place for the self-congratulatory and ill-written bilge with which you have chosen to litter our Forum in this posting !.

You are not getting up anyone's nose ....you are not winding anyone up!..all that your inconsequential bleating has proved , is that there is always at least ONE small-minded Idiot waiting to crawl out of His or Her self-made Cess-pit to utter a mouthful of bile about something which is totally beyond his/her limited intellect and experience!.

I say His or Her because (and not wishing to offend the Ladies of our Forum!)...your posting really does sound like the incoherent ramblings of an
unfortunately -situated Old Woman !!.

Unlike you, I won't have one negative word to say about Hereford United or indeed any Team in League Two....Their business is THEIR business....and our business is OUR business...SO, keep your cheap, useless, ill-written and inconsequential opinions regarding Accrington Stanley locked away in your equally small and puerile mind!!...

YOU DESERVE........YOU !!!