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Dont beat around the bush yonman,say what you mean!

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Daire

aka

Digit Applied In Rear End

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Now that's good :D :D :)

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And succinct !!...If only all 'postees' would show such brevity !!

'ON STANLEY!!!...ON!!!'

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lets analyse this predicament,- The club is in the worst predicament imaginable,who that fact is down to is completly irrelavant at this time, all that counts is if the club survives nowt else. those simple facts ya don't need a degree, its just Plain Common Sense. comments about whose fault,How? etc may well be relavant IF we survive, those fools who make them now obviously do not have a degree or common sense, cos they can only make this fight fer survival even harder. if they are big enough to digest this post, then STANLEY will stand a better chance of beating this crap...........end of rant.:mad:

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That's it in ten short words. So let's cut out all the junk and concentrate on the task in hand for the next few weeks.

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It’s comparatively easy……

Identify the Problem.

Apply a Time Scale.

Set a Target.

Appoint a Key Person to Action and Coordinate the Plan

Act!!


So what’s missing?

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The Time to do that doug.:) could take oer 8 wks just to get the right person.

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Cashy, I love you mate....Man to Man there are few on here that have your passion or aptitude...

The only thing that can help us now is one of two things or both;

Leadership from the Club or a Massive Donation of Funds.

At this I don’t see either.

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To my understanding Cashy; we had five out of the eight weeks granted by the courts....

Three of the five have gone. What I want to know is, who is the Key Individual is and what he or her is doing to bring about a solution.


It needs one Man from the club working 24/7 with total commitment to the problem.....

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Euromillions tonight .. 85million up for grabs .. whos having a go?:D:D:D

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I see John Mullin is the half time guest at the Turf tomorrow. One of his duties is to collect the cheque from the SOS cup game. How come you lot get paid by BFC quicker than I do :D

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Throwing allegations of mismanagement at anybody during the 8 weeks is a complete waste of time. Especially on a forum.

Anyone wanna know what is going on? Pop in or pick up a phone. Time spent on accyweb by anybody paid by the club is a friggin waste of time.

ANYBODY can contribute yet folk are moaning cause nobody is. Well, get into action people..... Its as much OUR responsibility as it is THEIRS.....

The fans of Accrington have drifted away since promotion so it is as much OUR fault as THEIRS....

PS I am off 2 hereford tomorrow but am sure buckets are avail for anyone who wants to raise £500 in town......??????????

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Oh how I wished we all lived in the same little fluffy world that you do Willie Miller!!

This problem is NOT the making of 'fans' but the total disregard of the same rules that you, I and all other tax payers have to abide by, by the bloody CLUB!

It is NOT my or any other fans RESPONSIBILTY to give their hard earned cash just because we are asked to...................we do it because we want to...............out of support, NOT RESPOSIBILITY.

Like it or not Mr Miller, this club HAS been mismanaged hence the predicament we now find ourselves in................FACT!

I will happily take a bucket into town tommorrow..............assuming that the correct licensing has been applied for and recieved from the Council ?

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Board meeting circa 2007

Oh dear, seems now we aren't winning, only 1100 accringtonians are bothering to turn up now.... Seems we are struggling financially. Best we cut our cloth accordingly & return to the unibond........

or

lets just bring as much in as poss, sell Craney, then Roberts, hopefully something will come up

Its simple economics unless you think somebody at the top has been syphoning money away?

We not spent anything on player fees. or agents. or ground improvements other than the roof & some free seats.

Money In since 2006 - Money Out since 2006 = £308k probs. We been over spending hoping that league football will bring the fans to the crown.

It hasn't & I agree, we, the converted;the die hards, ain't at fault. But many who have gone are & many who don't bother are......

We had page upon page of Eric & Coley pleading for fans to come. Surely we didn't think 1100 fans would sustain League Football forever.....

Its only my opinion but a hole in the budget needs filling by someone, Eric got us here & his only crime was trying his hardest to try & keep us here with prudence.

Blame Eric, or Rob. But you think we'd be in this mess if our attendances were 1000 higher or even 500... I don't!

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" Eric got us here with His prudence"........................b o l l o x, Eric Whalley put the club in this predicament..........and now 'we' are being asked to sort it out!!!!

Yes the 'die hards' will continue to support the club, but you cannot blame the ones who dont come, lets be honest here, there hasnt been an awful lot to make 'em want to come (footie wise)...........granted this year we are much better (long may it continue).

Its not as simple as money in money out, if only it were. The club were aware of potential problems way back at the beginning of the year,and yet only now are they trying to do owt about it, talk about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!!!

WM, you and I both want the club to survive,on that we can and do agree, but Im sorry I cant and wont ignore the reasons that we are in the s***...............and unfortunatley those reasons wont just evaporate.

Enjoy your trip to deepest Wales tomorrow and lets hope for 3 points. I cant go as I am working with the band :(

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do ya honestly think thats the answer willie? i certainly don't, yes another 500- 1000 gates would help no doubt, but it never stopped 62. its not rocket science if we get out of this crap, stanley can maintain league status wi good budgeting n colemans shrewd management IMHO, no need to return to the pits.

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After the second home league match for the current legal Stanley eric Whalley was on tv slagging off the upport saying you would get more at a !"£$%^ baby show.

Nowt has changed over the last 3 years so the management should not have planned for much better.

The more the fans give, the less the directors need to give. I have given over £100 but that is it until the directors contribute to the fund. Not last year, this year.

500 was a good crowd for us not too long ago, 50 of us would go away. That is the hardcore. I would put £1000k, as I expect would quite a few others if we were given something back, but now it looks like it could be wasted with Stanley still folding.

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Last i am gonna say on t'subject .... boardroom shenanigans really are the ****est part of football & one I don't really have much passion for.

"Without Eric's input, more than half the fans debating this subject wouldn't be fans of ASFC" Thats fact!

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that is fact, also fact is some would still be at the crown, as would some sponsers, he didn't just do good.:rolleyes:

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If Eric had sold up when he said he was going to (to a man with Accy in his heart and the finances necessary to take the club forward) and when he had the chance(s) then we wouldn't be in this mess.
With regard to the current situation... For a takeover to be worthwile in the circumstances of our club, the man coming in should've been able to wipe the slate clean and move the club forward from there.
Now the mess has been made and it's all should'ves and could'ves so that's that. The club aren't exactly flush with ideas for their massive fundraising campaign so it's up to the fans. As macca has said elsewhere, morale is low after a sparse week of fundraising so let's look forward to the next seven days where hopefully things will pick up.

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Exactly what are the new appointments doing? This makes interesting reading:
Accrington Stanley

Just as an example : "one of her first Google Page Ranking activities has been to organise a link up between Belle Vue and the football club". What was that? Did I miss something?:confused::confused:

And "she has close links with Manchester City, Bolton Wanderers, Liverpool, Coventry City, and a host of other league clubs?" How much has the SOS Appeal received from them?:confused::confused:

What about Granville Thompson's "greater financial control and monitoring" with the "up to the minute accurate financial information"?

Why are these people not visibly spearheading the SOS Appeal?

And it's interesting to see that Rob Heys thought on 25 June we could be "more strategic in our outlook, rather than simply fighting fires from day to day."

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You are not alone RR in your quest for answers to some of the above question???

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Spot on RR...................I await with baited breath!

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RR !...You're right again....but in this case 'Silence is not Golden!!'.(Nor is it going to accumulate much Gold!!).

SO...Cowboy!...I'm afraid you'll have to hold your breath...'bated or otherwise, for some time to come yet!!..

I've a feeling that 'THEY' might not have the things to say which will help any of us to really understand just what is the true scenario at'The Crown'!
Or they would have made such pronouncements already in their desire to be 'open and transparent !.

But, as has been said, without knowing the whole story, it is difficult to apportion blame accurately (Although we all have opinions which might not be too removed from the truth!), so perhaps this is the time to suspend our assorted 'witch-hunts', and to carry on optimistically with our own little efforts!!...and to HOPE for the best! (Which MUST be a continuation of League Football at The Crown provided by a 'living' Accrington Stanley!).

John Argenti (Google him !)..once told me ,that as a ship without a chart, or a Captain who had little or no understanding as to what he was there for,
and had little desire to inform his Crew as to the intended passage it's management, and it's eventual destination, would without a shadow of a doubt find himself in stormy waters, which in turn would see his Vessel founder on the Rocks!!.
SO would any Organisation however large or small...minus a clear Raison d'etre...without a clear Strategy which embraced the demands of it's entire 'environment', which had vision-less Leaders who had little or no skill in providing the necessary information and motivation to those within it's environs, would FAIL and FAIL miserably...

I was unfortunate enough to see clear evidence of this theory on many occasions !....and organisational failure through inadequate vision, solidarity, motivation, and dynamism in all concerned,is a pitiful sight to behold!..

Theory inspires practice.....and practice confirms the Theory !!...This is one theory which I hope will not exist in the remit of the skilled Management Team at 'The Crown'...I'm more than certain that they all have a firm grasp of the Raison d'Etre of the business, That they are committed to on-going 'Environment Scanning' and a desire to inform everyone of the Strategies existing to lead the Club to eventual success !..I hope that I am proved right!!.

Don't know why I'm putting these thoughts into words !!...So.....

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ???'

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how many times does this need to be said?:confused: in my view well meaning people are doing more bloody harm than good in the fight fer survival.:rolleyes:

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I agree now is not the time, notice I haven't got involved in all this pettiness, do like me if you've nothing good to say don't say it for the next few weeks.

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Bloody hell bagpuss, the last thing this situation needs is the holier than thou brigade.
It'd be much easier to do what the club wants us to do (keep quiet on the grey areas, not question anything and empty our piggy banks) if they were actively coming up with fundraising ideas for us fans to be getting on with. The last 7 days have been wasted.

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That is true... :(

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No Baggy......

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Leadership and management……..if neither of these things becomes clear there may not be anything left at the end of the next few weeks.

There desperately needs to be an open channel of communication from the club via the Fishy site; by this I mean regular weekly updates of the situation at hand and some degree of focus on the action plan to drive Stanley forward. It’s not just “us” on here that needs to be aware, it’s the wider township and above all else the Potential Sponsors and future investors without which there is no Stanley.

We appear transfixed by the duties of the excise man and the recovery of the debt owed; it’s deeper than that, once this money is paid (and there can be little doubt that it will) there will still be a vast financial void between what the club needs and gets via the gate….I understand our Willies groans, but the fund raising effort alone won’t build bridges with the disaffected people of East Lancs. We need leadership from the club, backed by open dialogue between all interested parties.

Accrington Stanley needs a rebirth; we need a clear cut and highly polished make over backed by a professional promotional media campaign promoting everything positive about the club; linked to the township and the friendliness of the people, something worth investing in.

Maybe the club needs to be petitioned to bring about change…..are do we just wait until it’s too late.

Wake up Stanley, wake up Stanley men……It’s a time for Heroes and Positive Action; not dreamers and groaning old farts….no offence intended.

PS. The last comments made on the footy programme today was a plea from the club for people to turn out and support the club on Friday night…….it was weak and half hearted; like a love sick youth clinging to a spotty bird. Stanley you are paying professional people to promote the clubs interest…get them off there arses and get some quality promotional work done or step aside and let someone else do it.

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Top man. :)

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Do you or anyone else KNOW fer fact the last 7 days have been wasted? may have been trying to sort, get permission granted fer various stuff, i certainly don't know, on that premise it aint much good telling about it, to be let down if things can't happen. keep bitching n watch the club slide into oblivion.:mad: its not beyond human nature fer people to brassed off with it all n say sod it.

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Have the club come up with any fundraising ideas through the week and presented them to the public? No.
Have the club asked the fans for any help with various ideas? No.
Has the slider gone up since the funds from the Darlo game? No.

Week wasted.

Cashy I know where your heart is; we all know that talking about the failings won't put that slider up. However, highlighting the continued inertia from the Whalley days (sorry RR, I've nicked that now) isn't doing one millionth of the damage that the club's 'sit back and wait for hand outs' outlook has done over the past seven days.

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whilst i have and am supporting many of these fund raisers shaker, by dedicated people doing there best, fact is they aint gonna be enough! i would sincerly hope the club are planning/ trying to plan summat BIG that will keep the wolf from the door, only time will tell.:eek:

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I think I'm turning into a pussy, bloody hell I don't even argue with mancie these days. I really thought keeping out of the negative threads was the right thing to do as I thought the club were getting their act together now after what appears to be a poor week on the fundraising I'm having a rethink, RR, Doug ect. are posting what I used to post without being annoying.

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Cashy, I know what the loyal fans are doing in the fight for survival. I am asking what those people employed and paid by the club for exactly these circumstances are doing in this fight. We need to know - we are paying their wages/fees (presumably).

The silence from them has been defeaning. Yes, indeed, they may be working away behind the scenes. But we need to know what is being planned, if anything. Time is now very short indeed.

And, to reinforce shakermaker's point, it is now 19 September. The thermometer was last updated on 10 September. This is NOT a criticism of the person given the task of updating, but it is a criticism of those supposed to be providing the information. Where is the motivation?

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Just a point RR, the thermometer has been updated on 16&18 at the least, problem is that the amounts are so small that it is hardly noticeable....

Source Organiser Date Total
Paypal Total Club £4,454.24
SMS & Phoneline Club £621.00
Private Donations Club £14,703.00
Fans Forum Club 04/09/09 £163.55
Bucket Donations(Accrington) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £1,400.00
Bucket Collection(Bury FC) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £2,100.00
Bucket Collection(Burnley Town Centre) Stanley Ultras 08/09/09 £23.17
SOS Cup Burnley v Accrington 08/09/09 £35,853
Darlington CCL Match - Gate Receipts Only Club 11/09/09 £14,184.07
Total £73,502.03
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Source Organiser Date Total
Paypal Total Club £4,501.14
SMS & Phoneline Club £621.00
Private Donations Club £14,703.00
Fans Forum Club 04/09/09 £163.55
Bucket Donations(Accrington) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £1,400.00
Bucket Collection(Bury FC) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £2,100.00
Bucket Collection(Burnley Town Centre) Stanley Ultras 08/09/09 £23.17
SOS Cup Burnley v Accrington 08/09/09 £35,853
Darlington CCL Match - Gate Receipts Only Club 11/09/09 £14,184.07
Total £73,548.93

But on the whole I hear what you are saying, what are the club doing, if they are doing it behind the scenes, PLEASE let us know - we can help..

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Does page 36 of Tonight's Lancashire telegraph answer your question Val ??.

(Quote)...Chief Executive Rob Heyes said: 'We don't have anything new confirmed yet fund-raising -wise. but we have one or two ideas iIN THE BACKGROUND, and we need to sit down and discuss some options as to where to go next' (End of quote).....

And there you have it!!...

Incidentally , else where in the 'Telegraph'...The Reverend Kevin Logan assures us that Divine guidance in the affairs at The Crown'...is a very real
possibility !....

To which I say a very Loud and Sincere....AMEN !!!

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It says 18/09/09, :)

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AccyRed.....

How's the big man with all this; is he at ease or is he worried?

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There really is no answer to that, Baggy! ;)

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agree the silence has been deafening, may be a good reason who knows?:confused: as fer yer first paragraph revived red i would suggest the time is now fer the P.R. lady to prove her worth! otherwise i would politely ask her, NOT to slam the door on her way out.:rolleyes:

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Without stating the obvious, we ain't got that long left :eek:

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Apologies for that, AccyRed.

I have just double checked. On my screen, it certainly looks like 10, not 18.

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(Quote)...Chief Executive Rob Heyes said: 'We don't have anything new confirmed yet fund-raising -wise. But we have one or two ideas IN THE BACKGROUND, and we need to sit down and discuss some options as to where to go next' (End of quote).....

I reckon we have but 36 Days left, I also reckon that we only have 15 to 20 of those days in which to come up with the rest of the money. Doesn’t the club reckon it’s about time they got on with it, that said maybe Mr. O’Neil and the board will be putting up the short fall between them? Mr. O’Neil was my first choice to push Accrington Stanley forward especially since he brought about him these fresh and experienced faces….But this is very disappointing; the club appears to have done little to resolve this situation. The money raised so far in the main as come about by the commitment of the ultras, Burnley FC and the Good will of the public and with that hope; but its drying up and the club have “NO Ideas”. **** Me.

Mr. Khan; get your cape out, with need and hero and we need one NOW.

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I would sincerely hope that Marcelle is networking amongst the movers and shakers of North West football at Old Trafford this afternoon. As one of the biggest matches of the season in the region, I would think it represents a golden opportunity to use her contacts for the good of the club.

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You'd think so wouldn't you. Private box with fergie and co and hairdryer those SOS ideas our way

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From the BBC Gossip page:
Manchester City's players have already received £459,000 in win bonuses this season, with a further £9,000 each if the club beat arch-rivals Manchester United on Sunday.
Full story: News of the World

The difference between the 'Haves' and the 'Have absolutely **** alls'

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i would hope so, would put her up wi the all time greats, if she could pull a stroke like that off, aint holding me breath though.:rolleyes:

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Ultras are hopefully goin Anfield saturday if its ok'd.... it is hoped a similar sized group will come forward to attend at Ewood once permission is granted.........

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Cheers WM, this is the kind of positive news we need to hear :). What if any are the plans for Fridays match against Crewe??? :confused: :)

P.S. Whilst I was scouting at Crewe V The Shots, I was approached by a Shots fan, who asked me if you where in attendance - I think he thought there was a collection going on - he seemed a little deflated to find out that you were not there.. Had a quick chat with him and he was genuinely concerned about Stanleys plight and wished us well :)

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Its action like this that will make the difference; however small the outcome it’s the effort again by a dedicated few that gives the rest hope.


I just hope that the club remembers the effort made. :)

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:confused: Why hasn;t the donations players managment staff and match day staff's wages form the Darlo game BEEN added to the total fund yet could anyone out there tell or exsplane why it has'nt:confused:

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As far as the wages are concerned, presumably because that's money not going out as opposed to money coming in - maybe financially advantageous to do it that way 'cos otherwise they might (?) have to pay tax and NI on the wages and only get what finally would have gone in the wage packet back as a donation.

Only guessing mind ..

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Might not put it in until payday - again just a guess???

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"The stewards came to us and offered to work for free and we have had a great response to our request that all other staff might consider donating a days wage to the fund, including all the match day staff, the people that work here at the club full time, and even the players and the management team.

"With so much going on at the game centrered around the survival fund and what should hopefully be a good attendance with minimal outgoings we have taken the decision to put all receipts from the match into the survival fund."


This is taken from a statement by Rob Heys and would suggest that monies are going into the fund rather than monies being saved by the club... We shall have to wait and see :confused: :)

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Hi Lads

Hows it going. I take it there is quite a lot of money to go on the total? Have Accy got any other big fund raising dos planned ie sportsmans dinners where they could do an auction with items donated by the bigger local clubs. When we were in Admin neville Neville sorted a sportsmans dinner held at man United and it raised loads.

Also what about selling seats for £20 a throw. Thats would be another £30,000/£40,000

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Well, Marcelle is one of the two most powerful in the club and the Don didn't just bring her in to sit there and look decorous. As it says on the SOS site, he "appointed Chairwoman Marcelle Lazarus to assist in directing the club out of the looming tax debt" so I would expect the results of her efforts to bear fruit for us soon.

Also, don't forget that the directors haven't announced yet how much they're putting into the fund. In addition to that, didn't I read somewhere that when the directors do say how much they're contributing, Ilyas has said he'll match it by putting in a sum equivalent to one director's contribution...or have I got that wrong?

It all adds up! :)

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just to add hope to the totals raised.

£75k ish so far bucket wise
June, July, August, September, Octobers budgeted £18k per month payments = £90k
Supporters loans (still in the bank could be paid back tomorrow if they so wished) £45k

running total £210k?

Board of directors yet to meet and discuss their 'donation', find £24k between you that Ilyas will match and then that leaves the rest of us to find £50k.

See you in court HMRC - we gonna whip your ass!

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:) Equivalent to the total amount the Don and Director's put in' Thats how i heard it WH:)

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[quote=maccawozzagod;746549]
June, July, August, September, Octobers budgeted £18k per month payments = £90k:) Thats if the club have put that a side Macca:)

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Even better! Come on the Don and directors, tell us how much you're putting in. The present lull in activities is cyring out for a morale-boosting announcement like this!

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Not only Morale-boosting Wyn!...but one which would not only indicate the size of the effort still needed to be put in by current and potential fund-raisers. but also have the Motivating effect of having a REAL Target to aim at!!.

Would'nt you agree that TRANSPARENCY is fine...as long as there is something to be seen on 'the other side' ???.

(Alfred.E. comments thus :- 'Apart from the unknowns, everything is obvious
...... been contemplating Friedrich Nietzsche again???)

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I would imagine he has...Alfred E. and myself often have an in-depth discussion about the great man's interpretation of existentialism in the Oak Lea, while you're yakking away to Cashy, Semi-Skilled and co.

However, I have a feeling that the "unknowns" will be revealed this coming week...the directors will show their commitment to the club by announcing their contribution to the fund, Ilyas will match it and our chairwoman will prove just how invaluable those links to Man City, Liverpool etc are, with some excellent news of her own!

As Macca said in words that might have come from the pen of the venerable Friedrich himself: "taxman, we gonna whup your ass!" :cool:

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In a perfect world but I suspect you posted that with tongue in cheek.;)

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"To my knowledge the directors including the DON have already put in in excess of £200K." (posted on this thread some time ago)

My opinion again, what more can the board do??

The directors aren't mega rich folk, they are supporters just like all of you:)

We're always looking for new members, but unfortunatley so are every other Football Club!!

If you've any ideas please let the Club know!!

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Not into the SOS fund, we have all contributed to Stanley in the past but that will count for nothing if we don't raise the £308k.

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Well doesn't this say a lot. :(

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I find this shocking news………..If this is the case Mr. T, and the Directors are at their limit….where will the short fall in funds come from? Will they accept (the board) Mr. Khan’s offer of a bail out in return for funds or are you suggesting that we are already in free fall towards Administration.

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:) MR-T Question to become a director do you need to have shares in Accy Stanley or just money to put in to the club to be a Director and do you have to be voted on to the Board if so does some one have to voted off first..some may think its a daft Q but i don't know how it works:)

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Take Mr. Khan by the hand.............and bite hard......:D On Stanley On.

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Took the words out of my mouth, Baggy. I'm talking about the SOS fund, which I had automatically assumed the directors would be making personal contributions to, as a matter of course. The directors may not be "mega-rich" but I would guess that they're reasonably comfortable, or else they wouldn't have been chosen as directors in the first place. As the rest of us in our varying degrees of penury or prosperity, are putting our hands in our pockets and making personal sacrifices to save the club we love, I would expect the directors to do the same. I would also expect the total sum to be recorded publicly, so that Ilyas can match it (if I've got the story right).

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Firstly the quote re the directors IS MY PERSONAL VIEW only, based on personal knowledge. I could be wrong, I have been before.

In the EW era to join you needed to be a share holder and make a cash ( without any shares or conditions) and or project injection and be invited by the chairman. This invitation was ratified by the board.

Currently in the DON era, only Marcelle has joined, invited by the Chairman and again ratified by the board.

If there's good people out there who feel they can help, please,please get in touch; to my knowledge it isn't a closed shop, we need more good people on board!!

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:) Thank you MR-T:)

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I am sure that this has been said before, in fact, Minister Onymfo has it on his signature “1000 people collecting £300 – job done” :)

Taking onboard the fact that we have already raised nearly £75K and I am sure that with other bucket collections and donations we will raise circa £110K.
That the take the equation down to 1000 people collecting/donation £200, already £100 each better off… :eek:

I believe strongly that there are 1000 “Hard core Fans/Supporters” that will do their best to help Stanley through, so it is with this in mind that I feel it is time to forget hoping that the club have something in store, forget the thoughts of somebody from the club “Using their contacts” forget any ideas of Generous Benefactors and face up to the fact that it will be down to us the fans to sort out this mess!

1000 people collecting/donating £200 each, it is as simple as that. £308K is a large sum, £200 X 1000 is more manageable!

Without further ado, I am pledging to donate £200 to the S.O.S.

NUMBER 1 = £200 only 999 to go!

Let’s get that £308K knocked off and get this millstone from our necks! :) :)

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Doug finds this shocking, i find it Pathetic "What more can the board do??" well sorry whats Wonder Woman been taken on board for? no ideas forthcoming as yet! wheres the promised Transparency? if what we can see so far is what we get i repeat Pathetic, not a personal attack just saying it as it looks.:(

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we had 8 wks to raise £308 K, two n half have now passed! is it not a boards function to give direction? come up with a plan of action? all i have seen so far is asking the fans fer ideas etc, theres plenty of folk willing to assist in any way possible, never have i seen in any industry the workers running the show.:confused:

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The club have things planned, why they haven't released them yet I have no idea, lets hope its this week

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Nice idea, Val, but the problem is that most, if not all, of the diehard supporters have already started making contributions. With the money I've already handed over in various ways, I just couldn't afford another £200 on top. I do, however, pledge to give additional money to make my total up to £200. I also pledge that when the job's done, from October 29th onwards, I will be asking one helluva lot of questions!

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On the night of the Darlo match, I was told that the next round of events would be announced mid week, that puts them half a week behind already, the one thing we have not got is time????

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that is the impression i was under, MR Ts post has made me wonder.:confused:

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29.10.09 is my brith day so i for 1 hope it will not be a day when stanley go to the wall again . i would sell my art and soul 4 the club . sum one out there can save us . look at all the prem players money bags .

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Well, Marcelle apparently knows a fair few of them, so I would imagine she's been hard at work, asking for offers of help from them and hopefully, we'll have some good news from her soon.

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Good idea to use the edit button Mr H:D

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Too right! Might've known you'd be the one to spot it! ;)

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He's good you know.......:D

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I asked the questions below on 30 June, Doug. This was before her elevation to the role of Joint Chairperson.

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By the time I’ve finished filtering out little bits here and there (she doesn’t know) it will come close to, if not a little over your suggested figure.

It’s a fantastic gesture on your part, but we are few on here and for it to work you would have to get the message out across the county even to get a moderate response; given the media coverage to date I would say that a lot of people will be turned off by the almost begging attitude of the club the media portrayed. It may just be the way I’m seeing it, but to me the coverage on the major stations has been poor in not negative.

Apparently we’re only famous for Milk and Losing the club in the first place; very little of the 44 year fight back, community work and achievements of the club in recent years…for **** sake Mr. O'Neil ask the media to sell us for our positive contributions rather that our mistakes and failings.

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well if were being asked fer our suggestions, failing any coming from the board, heres one. Hand the whole shooting match oer to ilyas, at the very least he's got a business mind.:(

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At the risk of boring everyone with repetition KSH !!.

Does page 36 of Last Friday's 'Lancashire Telegraph' answer your question ???

(Quote)...Chief Executive Rob Heyes said: 'We don't have anything new confirmed yet fund-raising -wise. but we have one or two ideas iIN THE BACKGROUND, and we need to sit down and discuss some options as to where to go next' (End of quote).....

Do you. like myself and many others not think that 'sitting down' at this tragic juncture in this parlous predicament is perhaps the one action that should be farthest from the minds of those purporting to have the best interests of our Club at the top of their agenda???...and will it not sustain a suspicion of Board's apparent lethargy towards the situation which the many postings on this thread seem to fear!...

My concern is that if they continue to 'sit down'...then it might just prove difficult to Stand up' again!!.

Let's hope then that what is in THE BACKGROUND will become reality..and will bear the golden fruit which certainly will lead our Club back to near normality (Happy Days!!) whilst allaying the fears of three slightly worried Fans ruminating here in the backwoods!!

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ???'

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Just tried to use PayPal for the SOS Auction teamsheets.

It states "This recipient is currently unable to receive money."

Any idea how long its been like that?

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I would think this is Rob keeping his powder dry. With six-and-half weeks to go to D-day and a "quiet" period last week, this week is absolutely crucial. I would imagine that the next few days will see the Don and Marcelle initiating a whole host of new fund raising ideas which will give the fund a major boost. In particular, I would expect Marcelle, who has kept in the background until now, to come forth and blossom by announcing the results of her networking amongst her many contacts in the North West sporting world. After all, if they're serious about saving Stanley and if they possess the required skills to be leaders of our club, we would expect no less of them!

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Even more reason for the Don and Marcelle to start displaying the many skills that are essential for the leaders of our great club at a time like this! :)

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Lazarus has been working behind the scenes at Stanley over the past few months and one of her commercial activities includes establishing a link-up between the Reds and Belle Vue. (taken from Citizen 29th July 09)
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...leVueHotel.jpg
Am I being to cynical here:rolleyes:.

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ????????............Yes!

(Alfred.E. says...' I bet That put a monkey in the wrench ! .)

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With apologies to Charles Dickens!!!....and Wilkins Micawber!!

' My Dear Mr Harris !...Until something turns up, which I am, I may say, hourly expecting. I have nothing to bestow upon you but advice......and my advice is...never do tomorrow what you can do today !.....Procrastination is the thief of time !...'

HIS advice still carries some validity...don't you think ?.

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ????'