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Quite right and I would imagine that the Don and Marcelle are sitting in the boardroom as we speak, putting the final touches to the detailed and large scale plans that will be needed to raise the remaining £230k in just five weeks. In fact, I expect them to make an announcement this very day!

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i see this threads degenerated to "Enid Blyton":rolleyes:always look on the bright side of life.:D n that was Monty Python.

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Tut tut, Mr C! Such cynicism! I would imagine that the Don, like all great leaders, is even now fine-tuning his battle plans, with the aid and assistance of his trusty lieutenant, Marcelle!

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As an outsider who has contributed, the whole campaign seems to have slowed to a trickle, since the first initial push or as the total not been updated for a while

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: This is very Worring:(......Ballygowan has tryed to uses PAYPAL which i suggested to pay for the team sheets which he won on the Auction sos fund BUT unable too.. now i no some times with paypal you are limited to how much you can have in your account and if you exceed this put a stop on the account,if this is the case then why have'nt the funds been moved to the sos fund accounts.:)PLEASE IF YOUR LOOKING IN ON THE FORUM GET IT SORTED NOW PLEASE:)

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Just one more 'worry' to cause consternation Mab!...and to invite the more cynical amongst us to quite rightly make their points!!...

I feel that a comprehensive and exciting declaration from the Boardroom must be in the offing.... No self- respecting Leaders would keep 'the Troops' in the dark for so long, if it wasn't for some very good reason!!...I join Wynonie in his unbridled optimism about, and unfailing trust in Mr O'Neil and M.Lazarus to lead the Club to Glory!.

(Alfred.E. comments (After Friedrich Neitzche )..

“Trust is like a vase.. once it's broken, though you can fix it the vase will never be same again.”....wish he'd lighten up a bit!)

'QUO VADIS STANLEY!!!'

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well sorry mate the trust i had is now wearing a bit thin, even this morning the stall kindly donated by the arndale centre, after the volunteer arrived at 9-30, was not filled by the club until after 11-00, so oer 1 n half hours lost, this is very poor organisation, also very unfair on the people who give free time up to man it.:mad: GET YER BLOODY ACT TOGETHER, or are ya INCAPABLE.:mad:

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I would have thought that it would be better to move the funds to the TAXMAN.
By the way, should we not be expecting our usual payment from the Football League any time.

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Just tried to donate via paypal and received this message

What the hell is going on. Do these people WANT us to donate. I know I asked people not to moan or complain until the eight weeks are up but I am finding it very hard to stop myself from having a go at the idiots who are not letting people donate. Please find out what is happening and get it rectified, and if somebody is found to be responsible get their bloody head rolling.

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Has anyone actually contacted the club directly and told them of the issue? Or have you just posted on here?

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I have phoned but there was no answer. The recorded message also told me to press 2 for fund raising news. When I did all I got was a message telling me that I could sign up for the Gold Bond online. Not much fund raising news.

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I have just phoned Mick Schultz and told him, he is going to see Rob to sort it out.

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Unbelievably disappointing Jeff !!....

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ???'

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Must admit im worried but desperately trying to keep some faith after all the effort WE have gone thro trying. Do need some other injection of cash, simply accy has done a lot & maybe all it can do, any sugar daddies in the offing?

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Yes, what we could do with is an Accy lad who genuinely loves Stanley and wants to put say, £250K into the club. I wonder where we could find one of those?

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According to the sos site the target & what we have got seem so huge a distance away i must admit im finding so hard to beleive we can do it in time & that donations will dry up soon :(

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Its looking very likely thats gonna be the only option atm

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Any updates club? On anything? http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8...bleweed.th.jpg

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yer picture is a good update kev.;)

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Thats how it's beginning to feel:confused: It doesn't take much to write a few words on a website to keep people informed on what's going on.:(

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No Problem RR I will make it slightly bigger for you when the next update arrives :)

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I suppose they can only update the site when theres something to update :confused:

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Does the crown not have any quiz nights? The money you can raise at a quiz night, run a raffle, do play your cards right .. when i've done them for the school ive raised over £400 on one night .. it dont take long to write a quiz ..and its a fun night. Or run it at the club .. its only a suggestion.

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They used to have quiz nites on monday nites which was popular but dont know why it was stopped, tho a thought what about selling the crown??? cut overheads.

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Perhaps a few questions could be asked at the Reserve game tonight?

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As long as you are not expecting to ask the DON anything. My freinds just come back from center parks where he was talking to the DON yesterday and the DON's there on holiday for the week. Have we got an new boardroom at centre parks now??????????????????

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Thought the club just rented it?

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Well that says it all, like Gordon Brown, sods off when the crap hits the fan.:rolleyes: unless of course E.W. is still pulling the strings.

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I don't know the actual reason for this particular case, however I have seen this before as I has happened to me last year.

This was the notice that I received from PayPal:

"You have received a total amount of $3,300.00 USD or more in payments to your PayPal account in less than a year since you started using your PayPal account. Please complete the steps required to lift your limit.

PayPal is required by law to comply with European Union Anti-Money Laundering regulations by collecting information from customers when they receive more than the set limit in total payments. Once these steps are complete all limits will be removed from your PayPal account.”

I'd actually had a PayPal account since 2004, but they measured unusual increases in PayPal receipts in any one year and used the EU regulations to investigate any potentially fraudulent transactions. The whole process took 1-2 weeks to complete.


I don't know if this is the same reason for the suspension of the Club's PayPal account, but with such an unusual increase in funds flowing through that account, it would seem likely.

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Ebay do suspend accounts with unusual funds into account with suspicion of money laundering & is probably why, the club needs to show that its not the case & account will be re-instated.

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Exactly the right moment for our co-chairperson to step into the limelight! :)

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may just snot me tonight,when i go reserves.:D

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She might be on holiday as well

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Think it is end of October Jeff...??

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I'm ******* irate. God bless our Wynonie; his positive words must be really fighting their way through ever more gritted teeth.

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I have just donated on it, so must be fixed :)

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There must have been donations since 18/09/2009, why are these not added?
There was money raised at The Waggon and Horses - regardless of how much - again not added!

These can only be added when the club inform the people of the sums, but we need to keep up the momentum - it is psychological!!!

Come on Stanley, give us some hope....

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well sorry but putting hols before survival of a Famous Founder League Member, without a dicky bird to either encourge/ inspire/ allay fears, of the people who are doing their best,with limited means, does not sit well at all wi me.:(

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:eek: How much lost through the paypal not working 1k 2k who knows but this just shows that no one is keeping check of the account,like i said before you have to transfer funds out of paypal it wont doit its self:rolleyes:

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i went into club at 2 today to put seat in away end and told rob to fix it

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just got back

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An update at last :rolleyes: :) :)

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Only £230163.07 to go :)

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:)Theres always one that spoils the mood :rolleyes:;):):D

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Mab, I am not in anyway spoiling the mood :) My glass is 77/308ths full :D :)

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Just tried it and it seems to be working ok now.

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With our Chairman on holiday and no sign of Marcelle I KHANT think who can help us out of this mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If only there was a Stanley loving merchant banker who could save us from doom.

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LOL, I'm with Raggy, I KHANT think of anyone either.

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Nor KHAN i.:confused::D

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I think we may be expecting our payment of around £200k from the Football League, perhaps we are going to use this to pay the taxman.

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Perhaps it would alleviate fears if they made a pigging statement.:rolleyes:

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End of October according to Val. Maybe they could give us an advance? ;)

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Nice to see the S.O.S. Site updated with some forthcoming events :)

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Pity it doesn't mention the Ultras v Legends

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I've just noticed that the deadline day, according to the SOS site is, Saturday, October 24th. So, do the club have to hand the dosh over on that day? What about the money raised after that day? Will the club not be allowed to add that to the total?

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I am sure that Rob or The Don said they were due back in court on 26th, so maybe they are using Saturday as the last day???

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Lead Logo for the S.O.S...

'"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. We are Stanley."

The measure of 'The Conflict' widens and deepens as each day passes....and
I wonder if it just me that has the feeling that 'The Triumph' is slowly sinking into a sea of gathering apathy...??????

I find the absence of the sort of statement which I know is envisaged by Cashy and others not only puzzling, but also a bit sinister!!!, and keep wondering what those purporting to be leading us towards 'The Triumph' have to hide from those who seek to work in so many ways to ease away the menacing prescence of HMRC !.

It was reported to me last night that The Board actually see all that we are concerned about in our postings, as not being the business of anyone but themselves, and that therefore, it is quite unnecessary to pass on any information regarding the salvation of the Club to the Hoi Polloi !.

I hope that this isn't the case at all !...still of the opinion that The Board have the degree of integrity which recognise the efforts of 'The Fundraisers'!
...but as yet still waiting for a word or two which will confirm this !!

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ????'.

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Does anyone know if the £30k has been handed over yet from the prem/league????

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Quite a few people have run with this 'the DON's on holiday' claim, but this is uncorroborated and I certainly wouldn't take solely the word of someone who, in their seven posts to date, has posted little more than anti-DON/pro-Ilyas arguments (as well as claiming to have donated several thousand pounds to the club).

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Would think that has been spent over the summer on wages Mab :)

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Quite right WR, will wait until it is official :)

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Still can't get my head round this...if they're back in court on the 26th, is the 24th the last day for money to be paid in? If so, what's the point of having the Stanley Legends v Ultras match on the 25th? And what's the point of having a fund raising disco on the 31st? The whole shooting match will be over then, for better or worse. Not trying to put a damper on things, but can someone enlighten me please? :confused:

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If you look at the Halloween thread WH, it says ticket monies will be added in first, I would say that the same will be done for the Footy match, as for the cash taken on the actual days, well I was wondering myself, maybe they will have to run to the bank on Monday morning... :) :)

I am sure that the posters will fill us in later ;) :)

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I hope they don't feel the need to go that far, Val. I was only asking a question! ;)

Seriously, cheers for enlightenment - I really must start reading these statements more closely! :)

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:) Proberly right VALAIRAN we still need to pay day to day running costs,while we're on about money does anyone no how much prize money the club erned on finnal league possition last season:)

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I am so very sorry, but what does it matter if Mr. O’Neil is on Holiday or not; he’s entitled to take a holiday if he wants one, yes it’s a bad time but it most likely would have been booked prior to this situation going critical…. I sure that the team left behind are more than capable to make fund raising decisions and run the club in his absence…if Rob, and Marcella have gone with him then we would have the right to be ****ed at them.

I’m not sure that people are anti/Pro O’Neil or Khan; we just want a solution that resolves the Tax issues and allows the club to continue to invest in building for the future. If Mr. O’Neil Khan’t lead us through this then I would ask him to either work with Mr. Khan or stand aside; that said would we really be safe in Mr. Khan’s hands? What is his agenda; is he going to float the club indefinitely given the size of the gates or would we still be having these conversations in a year’s time.

I am however very disappointed in the continued lack of communication via the club; the highly visible absence of “Marcella the Invisible” and the lack of imagination & creativity of the fund rising effort and the general lack of leadership and cooperation by the club.

I don’t think that the club will go down the ****ter over this situation; if it did then all of the main players in this set of events which includes Whalley, O’Neil and Khan Will undoubtedly face National Humiliation along with the Township of Accrington.

What I will say to the club is that the opinionated old farts on here (and I include myself) are few; but if we think this way; what do you think the rest of the people think of the situation.

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thats easy to dis-credit Whalley Red, ALL the club has to do is make a bloody statement.:(

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One thing that is mega inspirational at the moment is the brilliant ideas that people are coming up with small & large, everything counts, unfortunately work commitments at the moment are not allowing me to get fully onboard with a lot of things but a couple of potential fundraising ideas to throw into the pot:

Bowlathon-pretty sure accy has a ten-pin bowling alley speak to whoever owns it about a 24 hour sponsored bowlathon. (good funraiser probably good Google Page Ranking for both parties)

Cricket match between Accy (league champs) & Ramsbottom (worsley cup winners) not sure if it's do able but nothing ventured nothing gained


Business SOS put a press release out inviting all local business's big & small to attend an open day at the Club sooner rather than later, meet the players Manager, Commercial Team etc. Tea & Biscuits etc. then give them the sell promoting match sponsorship, board sponsorship, ground sponsorship blah blah blah:)

Maybe somebody will read one of these and think yeah that's not bad?

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From the SOS website :

"Visit the online store that has a range of products from replica home and away shirts"

No, it doesn't. And no leisurewear either.

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Source Organiser Date Total
Paypal Total Club £5,002.82
SMS & Phoneline Club £621.00
Private Donations Club £20,689.77
Fans Forum Club 04/09/09 £163.55
Bucket Donations(Accrington) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £1,400.00
Bucket Collection(Bury FC) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £2,100.00
Bucket Collection(Burnley Town Centre) Stanley Ultras 08/09/09 £23.17
SOS Cup Burnley v Accrington 08/09/09 £35,853
Darlington CCL Match - Gate Receipts Only Club 11/09/09 £14,184.07
Total £80,037.38


These private donations have been creeping in over the last few days :) Though the Text lines have dried up...

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Ironic that we should be facing Crewe again so near the deadline.

After passing my motorbike test I was berated by a Crewe fan at the Test Centre wanting his money back after our last League fixture against them (4-0 to Crewe) which he attended was stricken from the results pages in March 1962.

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Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

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Despite my great annoyance at those faceless sods at the helm Bernard,i still have confidence that will NOT occur again.:)

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They do this at the start of next season.

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:) I'm with you cashy! we the supporters of today owe it to supporters of 62 to not let it happen for a second time,the hert and betrail felt by so meany who lived and breathed Stanley,This is one fight we the supporters of 09 must win:)

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I have just seen the holiday snap that shows the DON his daughter and 2 young children. So get the club to make a statement if he's not on holiday.:D

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Yes, why not get Marcelle to make the statement, kill two birds with one stone:)

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Also I have nothing against the DON he seems a really good person not sure about this Marcelle Lazarus what has she done??. The only point that I was going on about is there is a lot going on at the club other than getting the money together for the tax man and this should be the boards main aim. I can't get my head round why no one want's Mr Khans money??? has he said he won't work with the DON??? Has he done something I don't know about??? it just seems the way forward to me, but what do I know I have only made a few posts!!!!!!.

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as raggy thun has only been a member since August 2009 n you have been one since August 2004 n only made 14 posts, why should i take your word if yer using that arguement.Raggy seems far more prolific to me.:rolleyes::D

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I don’t think it’s a case of not wanting Mr. Khan or his money; I sure most of us want both, but in another post Mr. Khan had said that he wanted to offer the money to stave off debt and get the club on an even footing for the future but he didn’t want control or ownership of the club. He did make the statement that he would like Mr. Whalley to part with control of the club in return.

Following on from that statement came the emergence of the ASSF sponsored and initially funded by Mr. Khan again with the proviso that shares were issued giving the ASSF control or at least equality with the existing board.

In my view if control isn’t an issue then don’t make demands in return for funding; If control is an issue then just buy the bloody club or go 50/50 with Mr. O’Neil and end the situation.

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Since then Doug he has said whatever the directors collectively put in to the pot he will match with his own money with no strings attached. It was in the Observer 2 weeks ago I think, but why has no one taken him up on this offer ? Seems a no brainer really !!!!

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Intriguing!..... Mystifying!....Sinister?....Unbelievable!!!....Fri ghtening!!!!....as well as being a 'No Brainer' Shurm!!.

However hard everyone works to do their bit as far as fund-raising goes...this apparently unexplainable Brinkmanship is possibly doing more harm than good to the motivating of future efforts, or else why does every other posting on this thread imply that this is so???.

As reported elsewhere....perhaps it is true that 'The Board' see it as their business alone to Save our Stanley, and that the opinions of we mere mortals are not worth looking at, let alone given any consideration!!.

I repeat.......'QUO VADIS STANLEY ???'

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DON has already said that he is not going to put any more money into the Club and I don't think the other Directors have much money between them.

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:confused: Err, I've made 339 posts.

BTW I'm not saying that Raggy Thun is wrong, only that we need to be vigilant against trolls and against deviations from the all-important task of raising funds for the SOS appeal.

There will be plenty of time for anger and recriminations once the future of our Club is secure ;)

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I know what you mean when you say you don't think Mr Khans offers don't help with fundraising but I don't think it makes a difference to the hardcore supporters who are actively raising funds to save the club.

If the directors or the Don don't want to put any more money in either by choice or because they don't have any then all I think is that it's a good job Mr Khan is about because it might yet be him who will bail the club out and I'm sure everyone on here will be grateful if he does.

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If Mr. O’Neil or the board do not intend putting any more money into the club or if in deed they don’t have to give they have no right owning the club in the first place; the same goes for Mr. Khan; offering enough to move the club on from the Tax issue won’t be enough for the club to survive; we need meaningful lasting investment as it was in the Whalley Glory days, if Mr. Khan wants to help the club long term then he needs to come up with a realistic take over bid and the club needs to take a long look at the clubs future; if they Khan’t sustain the club day to day, invest in the club as well as promote and market the club effectively, then its time to call it a day and give someone else a chance.

There is a new fundraising statement on the fishy site; it’s more of the same…..everyone one but the club is pulling their collective weight…..

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I agree Doug but I remember being a but critical a few weeks ago and got told to be positive and help so I did but it now seems everyone else is now asking and having the same thoughts I did originally.

The club want our help to save it yet they don't really appreciate the efforts on here or the club site. I few columns to say he raised this and she raised that and well done and the new totals now this would not go amiss. Like someone else said they don't think it's our problem or want to tell us much oh nice but you might mind people raising 100k do you !!! Well it is our problem because it's our Town team your messing with and no one wants to see it go bust for a second time !!!

To be honest the club don't deserve all you loyal fans sometimes, you stick by them thick and thin and what involvement or feedback do you get ? Very little I feel it's a one way street. Sorry to go on I appreciate everyones efforts well done the club needs to embrace the community more to progress in the future.

A friend at work who isn't a fan summed it up he said to lose your football club once is unlucky to lose it twice is negligent .....

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Brilliant Post. Khan't get clearer than that.

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Sorry duplicate damn phone !!

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Khan still urging Accrington Stanley cash talks (From Lancashire Telegraph)

...so are the club going to respond? :confused:

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Probably haven't seen it if they are on their holidays:)

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My Dear Harris,

That's like me asking if I'm I going to make it as a porn star....:rolleyes::D

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Transparency………I like that word, perhaps both the Club (Mr. O’Neil) and Mr. Khan Will both respond accordingly and outline their individual agenda’s for Accrington Stanley so that the supporters can make a clear judgement on our own future.

I’m surprised to here about the Ladies Team, I wasn’t aware that they where suffering in anyway.

I think it would also be nice to know what the ASSF are doing in our name; this also troubles me, I understood that they would be responsible for raising funds as a long term venture for the club as well as being a conduit for the Khan offer; if the Mr. Khan offer of 250k is accepted and Mr. O’Neil turns over shares in return….Who is going to be investing in the club long term, in short who will pay the bills that the gates fall short of and will continue to do so for some time.

If it is going to be Mr. Khan why doesn’t he just buy the club and move us on.

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oops i was looking at yer rep power not yer posts:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: was completely wrong n hold me hand up.:o try passing that lesson on to the powers that be.:D;)

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The problem we have Doug is that if Mr O'Neill won't sell his shares then Mr Khan or us can't force him to.

Because of the debts, in reality Mr O'Neills shares are worthless but it looks like he's clinging on to them for whatever reason. If its to get any money he paid for the shares back then he's an idiot because O'Neill has been at the club since 2004 so he knew full well the state of affairs before he even bought Erics shares and so if he gave Eric £1 for them it would still have been too much. Like you said earlier, nobody should buy in unless they can afford to support us long term.

It says in the article that Khan is an investment banker and that he's bailed us out before and I bet if he's willing to throw £250k at it then that could be just the tip of the iceberg otehrwise he might aswell just set fire to his £250k. The corporate sponsorship & contacts a merchant banker could bring to us could be massive.

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The corporate sponsorship & contacts a merchant banker could bring to us could be massive.[/quote]


Don't worry about that cos the people that Marcelle knows could bring us loads of corporate sponsorship & contacts!!!!! Marcelle to save us, in Marcelle we trust!!!:D

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Don't worry about that cos the people that Marcelle knows could bring us loads of corporate sponsorship & contacts!!!!! Marcelle to save us, in Marcelle we trust!!!:D[/QUOTE]oh my god, thought Bernard Manning had passed away.:D