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I've just seen this on the BBC website.

BBC - BBC Sport: Paul Fletcher: Can Accrington save their Stanley without help?

There are some good, and not so good comments at the end

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Its ****e Redash and its no help to us whatsoever.....the media as been totally under utilised by the club as a result the BBC and ITV are churning out the same old ****.

For god sake O'Neil get somebody in that can handle the media and market our strengths.

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For god sake O'Neil get somebody in that can handle the media and market our strengths.[/quote]


Marcelle Lazarus!!!!

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can someone up date the sos so i can see what we are at . and now **** off here

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Marcelle Lazarus!!!![/QUOTE]


Shouldn't that read..... Marcelle Lazarus ????

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ????...PLEASE TELL US !!)

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Source Organiser Date Total
Paypal Total Club £6,173.95
SMS & Phoneline Club £621.00
Private Donations Club £20,689.77
Fans Forum Club 04/09/09 £163.55
Bucket Donations(Accrington) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £1,400.00
Bucket Collection(Bury FC) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £2,100.00
Bucket Collection(Burnley Town Centre) Stanley Ultras 08/09/09 £23.17
SOS Cup Burnley v Accrington 08/09/09 £35,853
Darlington CCL Match - Gate Receipts Only Club 11/09/09 £14,184.07
Bucket Collection(Liverpool FC) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 TBC
Bucket Collection(Blackburn Rovers FC) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 TBC
Total £81,208.51


Really need those TBC's to be Terrific Bucket Collections :eek: :)

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Bucket Collection(Liverpool FC) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 TBC
Bucket Collection(Blackburn Rovers FC) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 TBC
:) Thought they we're being counted last night in the crown!! any totals yet anyone please :)

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Unofficial bout 7k?

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Darlington gate receipts were added - what about Crewe ?

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Unofficial bout 7k? :)Thats a fantastic amount wll done to everyone L/pool and B/burn bucket collectors,and a BIG thank you to those fans :) Darlington gate receipts were added - what about Crewe ? :) Crewe game only the 50/50 money went in to the SOS FUND :)gate receipts went in to the clubs coffers for day to day running.:)

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looks like friday night football is off

Accrington Stanley to put Friday night project on hold (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Just a quick note about the collection at the weekend..............


We managed to aquire one of the undated_20_pences. I have already bid £50 for it from John Timmins.

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Well done lads, well spotted......£55 :)

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If people are genuinely serious about bidding for the coin, then it may be worth while opening a new thread.

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Why not stick it on E-BAY??? Might be worth it? :)

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Have you seen how many are on Ebay :eek:. I bet you'd get more money for one with the DATE ON :D:D:D

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I know there is dispute between the ASSF and the club but I want a League 2 club to watch in December so I will make my second donation to the SOS later today as I have been paid again. Thats my season ticket 'paid' for :) Thats all I can do - I hope we manage this..

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Think I read somewhere (possibly the Evening Telegraph) that they're arranging a friendly against Austin Aztecs (managed by Adrian Heath). They're also trying to arrange the Rovers friendly for October, rather than November.

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It would be good if that Rovers game could be arranged for October but with the glut of league games this month it would be difficult to fit one in.

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Accroding to this link, Aztecs will play Stoke on the 14th and Burnley on the 20th. Maybe they may switch the latter and play Stanley instead, although I suspect Adrian Heath may prefer to play Burnley for obvious reasons. Nothing has been confirmed by Burnley yet.

BCLocalNews.com - Highlanders player gets taste of English pro soccer

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No I do not think you have RR..

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A further update from nearer to home. Stoke City's sister club apparently, if they play the same way you better point the floodlights a bit higher up or you won't see the ball :D

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Only £200.00 over last couple of days :(:(:( Should be in the region of £170K by tomorrow!!!! I know that we still have the weekend buckets to add, but it really is the time for people/fans Etc. To stand up and be counted! For the sake of our club, I hope sincerley that the the people out there that are responsible for this mess - and there are quiet a few!! - have the sense of responsibility to sort this out!!!!!!!!

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And yet Rob Heys repeatedly said that the figure was about £100k when interviewed by Dan on Tuesday :confused:

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I understood that this matter was all but resolved, the SOS fund will be at least between £100k – £120k by the dead line; Rob as stated that three of them (Directors) will be putting in at least £120k between them and Mr. Khan as clearly stated publicly that he will double what the Directors put in (Single amount I presume) which will be £80k which by my reckoning comes to £300k. I’m sure someone will find the odd bit of short fall, job done Mr. O’Neil and the Club pull it off with Mr. Khan’s assistance…everybody should be happy.

Mr. O’Neil and the club gets the opportunity to prove their point, the club gains value which should mean that the Directors and individual share holders who put money in (including Mr. Khan) should have a chance of getting their money back long term, and the ASSF will have to reinvent a role for itself or carry on operations focused purely on fund raising.

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And yet, if reports are to be believed, this £300+K will only just satisfy the demands of HMRC !....and do little to make any inroads whatsoever into the 'Total' Debt which, again if sources are accurate, may well be double this figure...or even more!!.

Therefore does it not seem logical to assume that if there is not a massive revenue input to clear the entire Debt, that the Club will merely stagger along from one emergency to the next, and risk incurring the wrath of The Dreaded Taxman on a regular basis ??..and everybody will certainly be far from happy....in fact I can not see 'Happiness' being the overriding emotion existing at 'The Crown' for a long time to come following the damage to reputations and Fan-Trust which we see, hear, and read about on a daily basis!.

If all this sounds a bit of a Jeremaic Lament, my comments are only based on an analysis of what I, and anyone else can read in the media, and unfortunately, on our Forum!!..

So I ask again...QUO VADIS STANLEY ??....Will someone please make an informed effort to answer this impassioned plea???

'WHAT ME WORRY ?'.....just a little !!

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At some point we will have to have faith in that the club “irrespective of ownership” will prevail; Rob Hays tells us that there is only operational debt, day to day running cost, this may be bourn out by the fact that there is only the one (06th August 2009) CCJ recorded against the company which may well be the tax debt, (please confirm Rob)…if we had the massive debt put about by various parties i.e. £500-600k we would be inundated with CCJs’ would we not?

Undermining, casting doubt and divide and conquer are old techniques for getting your own way in inter rivalry conflicts like we are seeing now for control of the club….I feel (personal opinion) that if it was that bad that Mr. O’Neil would have taken the easiest route out and would have taken Mr. Khan’s hands off (both of them) in order to protect and preserve his other interests rather than be dragged down and loose everything….

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Excellent Idea Rob.......:)

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I concur with that Doug !...But doesn't Peter Shaw's statement :-'The ASSF claim the club's debt is substantially more than the £308,000 which is owed to Revenue and Customs by 27 October.'.....not underline my point that the 'emergency' extends much further than the dreaded £308K, and therefore must be addressed with the clearance of other pressing debts an assured action ?.

AND..If this statement from Rob Heys is accurate :- "I think it would be great if we could find a way to keep the dialogue open and to find someway that everybody can come together.
"Whether that's by David O'Neil [Accrington chairman] perhaps relinquishing some of the control that he's got and maybe the supporter's fund taking that onboard. I think it's really important that we find a way." ..then it gives me some confidence to stop asking 'QUO VADIS STANLEY?'.

To hear such an enlightened declaration at this stage in the proceedings has
awakened a primeval stirring within me not known since I was introduced to the Ladies Underwear section of Gratton's Catalogue at the back of Form 2B !..

Someone once said...'Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.'...and he was right!!

Hopefully this thinking will lead to the beginning of a lasting solution to these wearing problems which are bringing our proud club to it's knees ?

' SOSTENUTO STANLEY !!!'

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My 45 years ago Latin can cope with cope with QUO VADIS STANLEY but what the hell are you and Alfred E on about now?

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I apologise if the little postscriberi which, as an indulgence I add now and again to my postings are causing you some concern Chimer...as in 'what the hell are you on about?'...

But with the little interjection 'Sostenuto Molto'...I was allowing myself to be influenced by my other alter-ego...AAMUZIK...who you don't want to know about!...It's simple translation is, as I'm sure you really know!...'Sustain the effort with vigour!'....or in Ossy terms 'Keep on gooin'!'. Which I feel certain you will agree, is apposite to the current task of ensuring salvation for our Club!.

My other Alter-ego ...Alfred.E....does, I agree make some rather odd declarations!...for which I cannot take any blame whatsoever!.

My hope is that even in the midst of what is really a crisis situation as far as Accrington Stanley go....here on our super-duper Forum at least, there is space for a little eccentricity and levity....although I honestly try to make a serious contribution to any thread which fires me up!.

After all....and here it comes just for you Chimer!...'Were all the roses in the Garden Red, then it would be a dull place indeed '...now who said that???

Respect and Regards!...and NIL DESPERANDUM !!

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Why so Yonmon :confused:.

Surely the Red is by far the most non-dull colour to be associated with anything, especially when in (Football) Association with League 2 teams in between the area's of Blackburn and Burnley :)

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Be helpful if some posts can be in the english language please yonmon lol

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I will try harder SM...but once I get started Well!!!...So goodneet an' ahl sithee at Chesterfield !.


Yours thoroughly chastened etc. etc.

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:D:D:D karma on it's way to you both :D

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My evening's bright, my evening's STANLEY ......














not to mention I'm off on hols with my lovely Missus tomorrow what more romance could I need!

See you back on here Sunday fortnight, 9 points, cuptie revenge against the Shrews and £308000 richer hopefully. :D:D

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no more

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back here from manjocr for tues game and still no up date sos looks bad reading. can some one keep it up at the end of the day...........

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No more ??

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Chimer left a wish list of 9pts and a cup win!!after yesterdays defeat that 9pts is out the window so thats why i think Shakermaker posted (no more )SM:)

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ah right get u just got me worried cos it wasn't in response to a quote lol

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How come the amounts from the bucket collections at Anfield and Ewood haven't been added to the totals yet? After all, it's over a week ago since they took place!

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Not only that, there have been other things as well, 50/50 draw money V Crewe, sponsored walk - policemen, Rewind in Burnley ....Surely some monies should have been added by now??? This is not aimed at the person responsible for updating, as they can only update when told by club!

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here we go ive put in £5.oo to day so its £81.424.23 sos grimps up date at 18 30

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Make that at least 81524.23 with my 100 which I sent over on Thursday which also hasnt been included on the current displayed total

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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still no up date on sos fund 05 oct now still 81

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I mentioned this to the club (Martin) about this on friday, and Martin said because the donations aren't coming in as fast as earlier weeks the updates would be done every few days instead of daily and thats why the updated daily was removed from the site, The last one I received was Friday 01/10/08.

From now on I will post in here when I update the site and then you dont have to keep refreshing the SOS page. :)

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ok thanks

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Hi All :)

Ive added some new events to the funraising page and I am awaiting an update of donations etc from the club which will be added as soon as i get them :)

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Thanks AccyRed :) We really have to keep the focus on the S.O.S. We must raise as much as we can for the good of the club. :)

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Still waiting for the club to pass this info to AccyRed Mr H ???:(

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Fear not, Baggy, lad, I reckon they're waiting until the directors have sorted out what their own personal contributions are going to be, then they're going to bung it all in at once to give the fund a REAL morale booster! Oh yes indeed! :cool:

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:):):) Bollocks :):):)

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Not really apposite to 'Bucket Collections KSH But.....

It is now the 7th of October...the clock ticks a little louder than it did yesterday!...so just as my little effort for today...an Aide-Memoire !....

Your Pledge to everyone concerned! Mr 'I'm no Villain' O'Neil is :-

"I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again.".

'LEST WE FORGET !!!'

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Hi All,

Just updated the totals, added event details to fundraising page for a couple of functions etc, ammended some dates/times etc. :)

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Not one for you AccyRed......


Martin; where is the donation made by Mr Khan; it's already int he bank so should be reflected in the totals should it not.....:)

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Is this for the S.O.S. or the running of the club - day to day???? :) :)

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:)I was assuming it would be for the SOS considering the current focus; but then again.:)

:confused:

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do we have a brack down of all the big total ples

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Source Organiser Date Total
Paypal Total Club £6,751.25
SMS & Phoneline Club £621.00
Private Donations Club £21,427.53
Fans Forum Club 04/09/09 £163.55
Bucket Donations(Accrington) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £1,400.00
Bucket Collection(Bury FC) Stanley Ultras 05/09/09 £2,100.00
Bucket Collection(Burnley Town Centre) Stanley Ultras 08/09/09 £23.17
SOS Cup Burnley v Accrington 08/09/09 £35,853
Darlington CCL Match - Gate Receipts Only Club 11/09/09 £14,184.07
Bucket Collections(Ewood Park & Anfield) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 £6,388.00
Total £88,911.96

Any good Grimps?? :)

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Accrington Stanley hopes hit by Trophy postponement (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Accrington Stanley Supporters' Fund will fight on (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Rush to help Accrington Stanley fund-raising (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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OCTOBER 8th 2009 (Another 24 Hours 'crucial to the fate of Accrington Stanley ??')

AND MY CRUSADE CONTINUES !..(Because time is getting so Short!)..

Can I remind our Non-Villainous Joint Chair-person ??...Like Nelson Mandela's Chiropodist once said 'Defeat is just unthinkable !!'...and of his..(Do'N's not the Podiatrist!) pledge made to us all....

"I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again.".

'LEST WE FORGET !!'

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yes thanks it good to see it that way than just 88 big ones . than if the taxmans pals are looking they can see we the fans may need some more time to pay .but the fans will pay it all bye nove 6 after the next fans thing bon fire nite

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I thought this was an interest free loan for the running of the Club which probably HAS been used for the running of the Club. Ilyas has now said that the Club can keep the money, he didn't say to put it into the SOS

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Someone's confident of survival.

Accrington Stanley assistant wants Cavanagh return (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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No problem Jeff; I had just assumed that because Mr. Khan had said keep it has a donation it would automatically go to raise the Funds accumulator, a good solid figure like that would have been a good morel booster…

That said anything going towards running the club can only be a great help.:)

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Still no wages from Darlo game added! Still no 50/50 Draw cash added from Crewe game!

Oh, and yes we are still waiting for the donation mentioned by Rob Heys during the Vale match interview!!! Around £100K!!!!! :mad: :mad:

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http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illu...copping/15.jpg


" A hundred thousand what Master Heys ????"...Back to your stool sir !!"

But he did say :- "I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again.".....didn' t he ????.

'LEST WE FORGET !!'


(MY apologies once more to Charles Dickens!)

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I questioned the whole thing at the very start, a few people had a go at me so I joined in with the SOS and helped out and kept my opinions to myself.
It seems the more we know the less we know.
The one thing I will say - rob heys would not be a chief exec at any other club.
nice bloke - yes, chief exec - no.

I find it hard to beleive any decent business person would forecast/consider accrington stanley profitable.
This statement could be extended to nearly every other league 2 club (with the exception of Bradford) and a significant proportion of league 1 clubs.

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Anyone go to any of the events yesterday night?

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I went to the bridge in Accy. The night was practically over though and I have no idea how it went. They had done a raffle though

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Whilst there is an update of sorts on Official site, still have not sent the info to the S.O.S.! Come on we need to see this total moving up :rolleyes: :)

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snap

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We're saved:


Accrington Stanley near end to tax saga (From Lancashire Telegraph)

maybe

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I really, really hope that's true...a decent night's sleep, with no ceiling gazing, at last! ;)

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And it is now understood that local businessmen have offered Stanley a £50,000 short-term loan to take the club up to the £308,000 mark.

I wonder who the business man is ?

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Wow if all this is true, then yes, we can all sleep easier in our beds

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erick w

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wouldn't matter if it was....I'd go for Peter Marsden...:)

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Are you saved?
:)

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Not yet :confused:

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Is that Telegraph Article true?

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:)Peter Marsden isn't a local buisnessman he's london based Doug and EW is a retired Buisnessman and before anyone says Mr Khan hes an investment Banker i would say our shirt sponsors would be the likelyest Buisness to put the £50k up IMHO:)

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I know there's light at the end of the tunnel, but no need to get carried away, chaps!

Accrington Stanley in talks over buying back Crown Ground (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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as it's "at least 12 months" away we could all start saving again and for £250 (+VAT) buy a square yard each - preferably a square yard of Clayton End terrace in my case

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pmsl. Leave it well alone I say and spend the money (that we haven't got) on a training ground.

We pay next to nowt on the rent of the ground and its on a massive lease so where's the necessity. What's tangible assets and what influence do they have on investment? collateral?

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to get a bigger loan in 12 months time to cover the current debt?

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I could but won't give this appeal any money whatsoever. Set up a supporters trust under the auspices of Supporters Direct and I'll set up a direct debit and give a lump sum.

I'm not bailing out people who have failed the club

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Who has failed the club? In this respect I must support D'oN for taking on the task and asking for help from the supporters and surrounding football clubs etc. He took over this burden from the previous regime and although he did it eyes wide open, the club board initially thought they had an arrangement with HMRC to pay back the debt at £18k a month over 12 months. HMRC reneged on that deal and said we had till end of this month to find all the money. Dave O'Neill may have been a little naive when in all truthfulness he knew what he was getting into when he allegedly bought out EW.

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Can't help thinking that this save the Stanley will be having a lot of effect on the true supporters, Home league last Saturday, home to Rovers Tuesday,Home again tonight another friendly, then home again in the league on Saturday again, must be costing you lads and lasses a small fortune, what with ticket money travel then of course the refreshments, must be costing a mint

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And home again next Tuesday as well it's still better than NO FOOTBALL.

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You should have joined the ASSF..you attitude has already failed, thanks for your contribution, now leave it to the Big Boys!

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One day they're talking about buying the ground, the next day they're talking about selling players! They really do need to start taking a co-ordinated approach to handling the media.

Accrington Stanley may sell players (From Lancashire Telegraph)