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Doug 19-10-2009 23:05

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755073)
By the way, does anyone know how the sale of 'shares' is going?

The e-mail I received from the club stated that the finer details were in process of being resolved and that packages would be announced in due course. I get the firm impression that the Club are working hard to get this right first time, and well they should. I am assured that they (the club) via Martin will contact those of us who have expressed an interest when matters are resolve and we can go ahead and purchase. :)

mab 19-10-2009 23:12

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:) Nice one macca :)
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/FGB.gifSave Stanley (not in the trophy though) Vital Football - Shrewsbury Town

Revived Red 20-10-2009 08:29

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 755088)
The e-mail I received from the club stated that the finer details were in process of being resolved and that packages would be announced in due course. I get the firm impression that the Club are working hard to get this right first time, and well they should. I am assured that they (the club) via Martin will contact those of us who have expressed an interest when matters are resolve and we can go ahead and purchase. :)

I thought that the packages had been announced. I was also under the impression that income from the sale of these "shares" could be used to boost the SOS Fund. Ah, well........

I'm starting to feel quite sorry for Rob Heys. In a rare idle moment yesterday, I was tempted to compile a list of his generalisations, clichés and platitudes. But actually, he is in such an invidious position because of the minimal contribution from one co-chairperson (other than unhelpful, nay offensive, comments in a programme and the epic "I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again") and the non-existent contribution from the other (hopefully happy and smiling) co-chairperson.

I have noticed that the number of people looking at this forum seems to have declined over the last 48 hours. Maybe I'm not correct here, but that is certainly my impression. If I am correct, does that mean that apathy is starting to take over?

Grimps 20-10-2009 08:41

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come lest give what we can still it all help for this last week . you never say die accy untill we go under then

Tealeaf 20-10-2009 09:38

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755113)
I thought that the packages had been announced. I was also under the impression that income from the sale of these "shares" could be used to boost the SOS Fund. Ah, well........

Errr...No. That share income will be used to pay off the Directors short-term Loans.

I have noticed that the number of people looking at this forum seems to have declined over the last 48 hours. Maybe I'm not correct here, but that is certainly my impression. If I am correct, does that mean that apathy is starting to take over?

Lets hope it is not the silence before the storm.

Greeny 20-10-2009 10:06

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having read the comments over the last few days,it saddens me to see so many of you being negative. Like most of you I have fingers crossed and truely hope we do come through all this .Unfortunately I feel personal feelings come into these comments.If people have a dislike of David O ,then they give negative comments about him. Personally, I have met both David O and Ilyas K only the once and find them both decent men . Lets be more positive and see what happens.The club is becoming two halves and we do all need to stand together and support whoever gets us through this,no matter who.So lets go to tonights match , enjoy seeing Shrewsbury lose ( hopefully) .This time next week,it should be all over one way or another.

katei77 20-10-2009 10:13

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I wouldnt say its a dislike to any 1 person but a dislike to the be left in the dark by the club as a whole

A statement from the board would be helpful

although i still believe we will have ASFC come november i just cant work out how at the minute

Wynonie Harris 20-10-2009 10:23

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Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 755122)
having read the comments over the last few days,it saddens me to see so many of you being negative. Like most of you I have fingers crossed and truely hope we do come through all this .Unfortunately I feel personal feelings come into these comments.If people have a dislike of David O ,then they give negative comments about him. Personally, I have met both David O and Ilyas K only the once and find them both decent men . Lets be more positive and see what happens.The club is becoming two halves and we do all need to stand together and support whoever gets us through this,no matter who.So lets go to tonights match , enjoy seeing Shrewsbury lose ( hopefully) .This time next week,it should be all over one way or another.

Obviously, some people will always whinge, no matter what, but it's easy to stop a lot of the criticism. The club simply need to make the announcement they promised to make last week. Tell us exactly what's going on and how they're going to pay the taxman's bill in eight days time. Broken promises do not make for happy fans!

As for "supporting" the club, I reckon that the vast majority on here support the club to the very best of their ability, turning up to as many matches as they can and contributing as much cash as they can. All the club need to do is tell us what's happening!

katei77 20-10-2009 10:43

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maybe there might be a statement into nights programme?

lancsdave 20-10-2009 11:05

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Originally Posted by katei77 (Post 755127)
maybe there might be a statement into nights programme?

If there is I would guess it's a 2 week old statement :)

katei77 20-10-2009 11:23

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There is a write up in the LT but i cant find the link:(

maccawozzagod 20-10-2009 11:35

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 755124)
it's easy to stop a lot of the criticism. The club simply need to make the announcement ...

AMEN to that Sir!

not just with regards to this whole sorry episode but with everything that goes on within the club.

when people are not armed with the facts they will use hearsay and rumour (and nobody is exempt from that). When hearsay and rumour is exhausted they will simply make up it up - educated guesses and so on. So often it could be nipped in the bud with a quick statement but that is hardly ever done. Its as though they hark back to the old Kipax saying that no all publicity is good publicity.

Communication is the key to absolutely everything and should be etched on every wall in the club.

Revived Red 20-10-2009 11:59

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Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 755122)
Unfortunately I feel personal feelings come into these comments.If people have a dislike of David O ,then they give negative comments about him. Personally, I have met both David O and Ilyas K only the once and find them both decent men.

As far as I am aware, there is no discussion about whether David O'Neill or Ilyas Khan are decent men, or otherwise. Decency has little connection with effective management. I have no personal feelings whatsoever towards the people you name; I neither like them nor dislike them. However, I can like or dislike the things they do - or don't do. I expect people in positions of authority to display leadership, vision, awareness, business acumen, and adeptness in public relations. These are skills, not personality traits to be liked or disliked.

If they do not have these skills, they should not be in positions of authority.

stanley convert 20-10-2009 12:23

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755113)
I thought that the packages had been announced. I was also under the impression that income from the sale of these "shares" could be used to boost the SOS Fund. Ah, well........

I'm starting to feel quite sorry for Rob Heys. In a rare idle moment yesterday, I was tempted to compile a list of his generalisations, clichés and platitudes. But actually, he is in such an invidious position because of the minimal contribution from one co-chairperson (other than unhelpful, nay offensive, comments in a programme and the epic "I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again") and the non-existent contribution from the other (hopefully happy and smiling) co-chairperson.

I have noticed that the number of people looking at this forum seems to have declined over the last 48 hours. Maybe I'm not correct here, but that is certainly my impression. If I am correct, does that mean that apathy is starting to take over?

From what Martin told me last week re the share issue the legal stuff was being sorted out and anyone who had their name on the list would be contacted shortly (1-2 weeks) either by phone or Email detailing the packages available, obviously of the 1000 available some would come at a premium ie no1, 18, 21,62, 68, 1000 etc, been working at the club again today but I did,nt see Martin so I have no more information at the moment but if anything comes to light I will gladly share.:D:D:D

JEFF 20-10-2009 13:21

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Just received my official applicaton form

Revived Red 20-10-2009 13:28

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Originally Posted by stanley convert (Post 755148)
obviously of the 1000 available some would come at a premium ie no1, 18, 21,62, 68, 1000 etc

"Obviously" - why so??:confused::confused:

No wonder the club is having to sort out the "legal stuff". It could be heading for big trouble if it is not careful. The "shares" package was advertised at £250 + vat. As far as I can recall, there was no reference to premiums in the initial offer.

Value of premimums? Possible allegations of favouritism? This could be a legal and Google Page Ranking minefield.

Bradshaw Boy 20-10-2009 13:45

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These are the packages:

Platinum
Limited Company Share and Official Certificate numbered SOS 001/500/999/1000 with limited SOS edition replica home shirt marked ‘SOS 001’/‘SOS 1000’ signed by full playing squad and management plus framed.
£1,000 x 4

Gold
Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition home shirt as worn by the squad in 2009/10 season. Numbered SOS 002 to SOS040
£500 x39

Silver
Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition replica home shirt and signed by an Accrington Stanley squad member of your choice.Numbered SOS041 to SOS100 + SOS100 + SOS 200/300/400/500/600/700/800/900
£500 x 67

Bronze
Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition replica home shirt. Numbered SOS101 to SOS998 (excl hundreds)
£250 x 890

There are upgrades available as well

Over to you lawyers now............

Bagpuss 20-10-2009 13:51

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It's a lot to pay for a picture of a worthless share, I will save my money for a supporters trust, thank you.

Revived Red 20-10-2009 14:04

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What exactly is a "limited company share"? How is it related to the "B shares" originally advertised? Does it have voting rights?

Three questions to start the ball rolling.

simon 20-10-2009 14:07

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755143)
As far as I am aware, there is no discussion about whether David O'Neill or Ilyas Khan are decent men, or otherwise. Decency has little connection with effective management. I have no personal feelings whatsoever towards the people you name; I neither like them nor dislike them. However, I can like or dislike the things they do - or don't do. I expect people in positions of authority to display leadership, vision, awareness, business acumen, and adeptness in public relations. These are skills, not personality traits to be liked or disliked.

If they do not have these skills, they should not be in positions of authority.


VERY well put..............

Wynonie Harris 20-10-2009 14:38

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Story now breaking in the national media...

STANLEY OFFER SHARES TO SUPPORTERS | Coca Cola League 2 Football Transfer News, Football News, Fixtures, Results, Match Reports, Stats

So the share money IS going to be used to pay the taxman. Better get buying 'em now!

JEFF 20-10-2009 14:47

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Originally Posted by Bradshaw Boy (Post 755166)
Over to you lawyers now............

What do you mean by that? You can buy your share package for £250+vat or if you want a special numbered share and an upgrade you can pay extra. What is the problem with that.

This is the full description
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Become an Official Accrington Stanley Shareholder:
10% of Accrington Stanley Football Club’s existing shares are on general sale through an exclusive Share Issue Package. The Accrington Stanley Share Issue Package offers supporters of the football club from around the world to be part of the ownership at Accrington Stanley Football Club ltd as an official share holder. There are 1000 official shares available through a range of different profile packages providing the opportunity for fans to be listed in the club’s official shareholder register, invited to Annual General Meetings, be entitled to the company’s financial accounts as well as receive a limited edition Save Our Stanley new home strip, official certificate plus 10 Flexi-tickets.

Shares
Ownership of a Limited Company ‘B’ Share is an official stake in Accrington Stanley Football Club Ltd whereby the holder is listed in the official company register, invited to company AGMs, plus entitled to annual financial accounts.
Accrington Stanley Football Club Ltd consists of 2000 Category ‘A’ Shares plus 9,800 Category ‘B’ Shares. Each full share is of equal holding value. The Share Issue Package involves a selection of current Shareholders that have agreed to release a combined total of 1000 existing Category B Shares back to the company which are now on general sale as part of a limited edition package.
As Share Packages are sold, the company shareholder register of Accrington Stanley football club limited will be amended accordingly, accommodating the details of each new shareholder.

Certificate
Upon purchasing a limited share, subject to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Company, a share certificate will be granted to the holder, dated and signed by a Company Director and Company Secretary. The share will also contain a unique SOS Reference listed between SOS 001-1000 accordingly that coincides with the SOS Reference embroided on to the limited edition Save Our Stanley home shirt.

Shirt
Accrington Stanley Football Club has agreed a new kit supplier to provide playing and training kit, as well as replica shirts and other branded apparel for retail. 1000 home shirts will be produced as limited edition ‘Save Our Stanley 09’ shirts to commemorate the recent fundraising efforts and celebrate the of Accrington Stanley. Shirts acquired as part of the Share Issue Package will be fully embroided with the ‘Save Our Stanley 09’ message plus unique SOS Code Number that correlates to the numbered limited share acquired.

Flexi-Tickets
Included in each package are 10x Flexi-Tickets.
One Flexi-Ticket entitles one Adult/Concession/Child to attend any home league fixture and can be used for ten people for one game, one person for ten games or combinations thereof. The tickets do not carry an expiry date and can therefore be used for upcoming seasons. Flexi-Tickets are to be handed to turnstile operators of the chosen stand.
Flexi-Tickets are non-refundable and contain no cash value.

Sponsorship Vouchers
As well as becoming an official Shareholder at Accrington Stanley, you or your company can receive 10% off a Match Day sponsorship or hospitality visit. There are a range of sponsorship opportunities for each home fixture including Official Match Sponsor, Match Ball Sponsor, and Programme Sponsor. The sponsorship and hospitality includes a delicious, home made three course meal in the ‘Buy the House’ lounge, reserved sponsorship seats by the dug-outs or the option of watching the game inside the lounge, a half time presentation as a sponsor with signed Accrington Stanley Merchandise, complimentary match day programme and team sheet and exclusive pre game announcement by assistant manager Jimmy Bell.

Merchandise Voucher
Get 10% off your next visit to the Crown Store especially once it is restocked with branded attire and training gear from the new kit supplier.
If you don't want to buy one why slag them off. O'Neill and co are just trying to save Stanley, why not help them instead of hindering them.

JEFF 20-10-2009 14:51

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755170)
What exactly is a "limited company share"? How is it related to the "B shares" originally advertised? Does it have voting rights?

Three questions to start the ball rolling.

What are you on about "Three questions to start the ball rolling" If you have read the share offer your questions will have been answered and shouldn't have needed asking.

Bradshaw Boy 20-10-2009 15:01

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 755184)
What do you mean by that? You can buy your share package for £250+vat or if you want a special numbered share and an upgrade you can pay extra. What is the problem with that.

This is the full description


If you don't want to buy one why slag them off. O'Neill and co are just trying to save Stanley, why not help them instead of hindering them.

yep and I said in my edit that somebody else would fill in the missing bits and you have - so well done.

Revived Red said "Value of premimums? Possible allegations of favouritism? This could be a legal and Google Page Ranking minefield." - hence my glib comment about lawyers.

I can't see where I've slagged anybody off but there you go.

By what I seen on here and in the various Media outlets there are loads of people trying to save Stanley - why else would I have donated to the SOS fund and asked the club for a share application form?

Revived Red 20-10-2009 15:03

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 755186)
What are you on about "Three questions to start the ball rolling" If you have read the share offer your questions will have been answered and shouldn't have needed asking.

An unfortunate tone there, Jeff.

Questions DO need asking because the terms of the offer seem to change. How about looking at one of your posts:
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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 753451)
The flexi tickets are for any 2009-2010 League 2 game or friendly as per the announcement in last night's programme

Attachment 14635

The flexi tickets are now of unlimited validity but you assured us, quoting the programme, that they were only valid for 2009/2010.

Doug 20-10-2009 15:07

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755162)
"Obviously" - why so??:confused::confused:

No wonder the club is having to sort out the "legal stuff". It could be heading for big trouble if it is not careful. The "shares" package was advertised at £250 + vat. As far as I can recall, there was no reference to premiums in the initial offer.

Value of premimums? Possible allegations of favouritism? This could be a legal and Google Page Ranking minefield.

Don't see why, I think they've pulled off a good one.

Revived Red 20-10-2009 15:18

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 755199)
Don't see why, I think they've pulled off a good one.

Hope you are correct, Doug. It's really important that this is successful for the club.

Doug 20-10-2009 15:32

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755204)
Hope you are correct, Doug. It's really important that this is successful for the club.

:) It will only work well if people want one bad enough RR, I was one of those asking for a club issue of shares and I will buy one for me and most likely one for the business, really only so I can say I’ve done my bit to save the club. I had set a grand aside to buy voting shares had they come, but these are a “Pride Issue” (I own a share in Accrington Stanley type bragging rights) with no investment value at all, at the end of the day its individual choice. :)

In respect of the club I think we should give them some credit. :)

Wynonie Harris 20-10-2009 15:36

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I assume that the information which has arrived includes a facility to pay now (hopefully mine'll be there when I get home), as if we are using the money to make up the shortfall in the tax bill, we need to get it in ASAP!

Doug 20-10-2009 15:39

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 755213)
I assume that the information which has arrived includes a facility to pay now (hopefully mine'll be there when I get home), as if we are using the money to make up the shortfall in the tax bill, we need to get it in ASAP!

Tis true Sir, Order form and payment method, for collection/distribution 1st December 2009....


Any chance of seeing what the shirt looks like....:)

Wynonie Harris 20-10-2009 15:47

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Cheers, Doug. That's good - at least we can see now how we are going to make the money up. Still wish the club would put it in writing on t'fishy site though!

JEFF 20-10-2009 15:48

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 755196)
An unfortunate tone there, Jeff.

Questions DO need asking because the terms of the offer seem to change. How about looking at one of your posts:


The flexi tickets are now of unlimited validity but you assured us, quoting the programme, that they were only valid for 2009/2010.

So now they are giving a bit extra, what is the problem with that.

VALAIRIAN 20-10-2009 16:06

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I am gutted personally that I cannot afford a certain shirt, but I think it is a good idea to maximise this share issue, by doing what they have done - and lets face it we do not have to buy any specific share/shirt - the club are making an extra few grand, good idea :) :)

Grimps 20-10-2009 16:22

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are we having another darts nite 26 10 09 the last one was a bad turn out but very good

maccawozzagod 20-10-2009 16:42

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i dont think the OSC will be running one Grimps :(

lancsdave 20-10-2009 17:10

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 755216)
Any chance of seeing what the shirt looks like....:)

Red ?:D

Nickelson 20-10-2009 17:38

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The goods wont be ready for collecton till December 1st :O

VALAIRIAN 21-10-2009 05:09

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There is a nice little advert on the Official website, for Sportsman Dinner at the Dunk. Very flashy :)

lancsdave 21-10-2009 09:45

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 755320)
There is a nice little advert on the Official website, for Sportsman Dinner at the Dunk. Very flashy :)


No price mentioned, does that mean there is a Gold, Silver & Bronze package ? :D

K.S.H 21-10-2009 20:05

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 755320)
There is a nice little advert on the Official website, for Sportsman Dinner at the Dunk. Very flashy :)

Anyone going?

Bagpuss 21-10-2009 20:48

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 755472)
Anyone going?

Are you taking the pee, they don't want the scumbags to go they've made that clear, can't have the riff raff asking difficult questions like WTF do you do Ms Lararus for the club???:(:(:(

AccyRed 21-10-2009 21:33

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Evening all :)

Ive just updated the totals :)

K.S.H 21-10-2009 21:37

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Liverpool FC Donation £6,500.00 :confused:

lancsdave 21-10-2009 21:40

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 755491)
Liverpool FC Donation £6,500.00 :confused:


I'm sure every penny is gratefully received but what a strange figure :confused:

Presumably it has some significance ?

lancsdave 21-10-2009 21:44

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I've just realised, it's probably Rafa's win bonus and they didn't know what to do with it :D

K.S.H 21-10-2009 21:45

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 755492)
I'm sure every penny is gratefully received but what a strange figure :confused:

Presumably it has some significance ?

Its a great amount for a single donation, I just wondered what it was for

K.S.H 21-10-2009 21:50

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Maybe they decided to match what the bucket collection was :confused:

Bucket Collections(Ewood Park & Anfield) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 £6,644.00

Liverpool FC Donation Liverpool FC 21/10/09 £6,500.00

Liverpool FC

Accommodating SOS bucket collectors plus kindly donating an additional £6,500!
Liverpoolfc.tv: Official Web Site

lancsdave 21-10-2009 21:51

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 755498)
Maybe they decided to match what the bucket collection was :confused:

Bucket Collections(Ewood Park & Anfield) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 £6,644.00

Liverpool FC Donation Liverpool FC 21/10/09 £6,500.00

Liverpool FC

Accommodating SOS bucket collectors plus kindly donating an additional £6,500!
Liverpoolfc.tv: Official Web Site

Thought there must be a significance to it.:)

bdc 21-10-2009 21:56

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Does anyone know if there have been anymore developments with raising the rest of the money? I seem to recall Rob Heys saying there was going to be a big announcement last week?:confused: I hope the board don't leave it till the last minute to sort it!!

K.S.H 21-10-2009 21:57

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Heres another one

Buoyant Upholstery Oakbank Mills, Hallam Road, Nelson BB9 8AJ

Raffle prize provider
.:Buoyant Upholstery:.

What raffle :confused:

Doug 21-10-2009 22:16

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 755504)
Heres another one

Buoyant Upholstery Oakbank Mills, Hallam Road, Nelson BB9 8AJ

Raffle prize provider
.:Buoyant Upholstery:.

What raffle :confused:

What’s up with you people, there’s a Raffle and Charity Auction at the Sportsman’s Dinner, did you not get an invite.....:D

wobbly 21-10-2009 22:22

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Be great if Stanley get Leeds at Elland Road in FA Cup Draw on Sunday, odds on that Fixture will be changed to be Live on TV as the TV love us 'Dirty Leeds' losing to clubs below us, coupled to a big Elland Road crowd and TV money, should pay the outstanding debts totally, here's hoping we will be welcoming you all to Elland Road soon

Wynonie Harris 22-10-2009 07:47

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Originally Posted by bdc (Post 755502)
Does anyone know if there have been anymore developments with raising the rest of the money? I seem to recall Rob Heys saying there was going to be a big announcement last week?:confused: I hope the board don't leave it till the last minute to sort it!!

Leave it until the last minute?...Stanley?...Do me a favour!...The club would never dream of leaving their fans in the dark...anyway, there's plenty of time...there's six whole days yet! :rolleyes:

Kiwi John 22-10-2009 08:48

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Have I got this right?; Liverpool FC have donated 6500 pounds to ASFC ? If so, a part of me wants to say "Wow, thanks so much Liverpool" while another (smaller) bit says "Is that all,just a quick dip into your office petty cash tin.."

madkev 22-10-2009 09:05

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Thanks Liverpool FC,very grateful for all donations. Six days now!:eek:,Think i'll soon have repetitive strain injury from all the checking up on the website over the last few days :p,i guess the big announcement was the share issue then.

Great result against the shrews the other night :)

Wynonie Harris 22-10-2009 09:47

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Would've been nice if the club had posted a story on t'fishy site explaining what this donation was all about...did Liverpool agree to match what was raised in the bucket collection or what? Would also have been nice if someone from the club could've publicly said "thank you to Liverpool"...but I suppose that would've been too much to ask for. :rolleyes:

katei77 22-10-2009 10:42

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No word yet on troubled Accrington Stanley’s rescue target (From Lancashire Telegraph)

maccawozzagod 22-10-2009 10:44

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i'm all of a sudden very worried again!

they wanted to announce the debt cleared with a couple of weeks to go. They have said the loan is 'sorted' and they have said that the 'directors' would be putting in a hundred grand. Yet they haven't. Is there a problem?

katei77 22-10-2009 10:56

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worried?????????

think we have got past that point now!!

its time to really panic!!

my faith in seeing ASFC in november is be very tested now!!!

mab 22-10-2009 11:24

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:confused: Confused is the word ( QUOTE )The shares are available after David Styring sold his 15 per cent shareholding to the club, who will retain five per cent and offer the other 10 per cent to fans. (UNQUOTE ) Were did the money come from to pay Mr Styring out!!WORRIED SICK over this come on David and Rob PLEASE make a statment SOON:)

mab 22-10-2009 11:29

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Ferguson hoping for Accrington Stanley survival

Wynonie Harris 22-10-2009 11:35

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Likewise, Mab!

Time the club levelled with us long-suffering fans and told us exactly what the hell's going on. :(

yonmon 22-10-2009 15:23

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 755567)
Likewise, Mab!

Time the club levelled with us long-suffering fans and told us exactly what the hell's going on. :(

But will that ever happen Wyn ??


No word yet on troubled Accrington Stanley’s rescue target
10:00am Thursday 22nd October 2009
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By Chris Flanagan »


ACCRINGTON Stanley were remaining tight-lipped yesterday on whether they had yet reached their fund-raising target.

Stanley must return to the High Court in London on Wednesday to face winding up proceedings if they are unable to pay off a £308,000 tax bill.

Chief executive Rob Heys revealed last Tuesday that a plan was in place to pay off the bill and that more details would be released within 48 hours, but no announcement has yet been made.

That has led to fans, encouraged by last week’s comments, growing increasingly concerned again about the club’s future.

When contacted yesterday, joint chairperson Dave O’Neill declined to give an update on Stanley’s current situation ahead of Wednesday’s hearing.

The club have been in negotiations with HM Revenue and Customs in a bid to strike a new deal to pay off the debt, and Stanley have already raised around £110,000 via the Save Our Stanley Fund.

That figure includes the £12,000 generated by last week’s friendly against Blackburn Rovers and Stanley remain confident of taking the fund-raising total up to the £150,000 mark by Wednesday.

Key people inside the club — including Mr Heys and Mr O’Neill — are due to put in £100,000 of their own money, while Stanley last week revealed that they had also agreed a short-term loan of around £50,000 from an as yet unnamed local businessmen.

The club last week announced plans for an issue of 1,000 new shares, which could raise around £250,000 if all are purchased.

The shares are available after David Styring sold his 15 per cent shareholding to the club, who will retain five per cent and offer the other 10 per cent to fans.


I DESPAIR !!!

Kisser 22-10-2009 15:29

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
I saw on the fishy site that if you add your holiday report on realholidayreports.com that £1.00 is donated to the club. After just coming back of a super holiday thought I would add my report, while donating to the club but every time I try and enter my report it says Invalid Input Detected. Wondered if anyone else had tried entering a report? Fortunately, I thought about copying the text before I submitted it so I haven't lost my essay! Will save it as a word document and try again tomorrow.

simon 22-10-2009 15:53

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
I think we must now assume that there is a problem with paying the taxman in full.....

NO way would they leave it to less than a week to sort such a BIG problem out..

SO where NOW ???

Redraine 22-10-2009 15:58

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simon (Post 755593)
I think we must now assume that there is a problem with paying the taxman in full.....

NO way would they leave it to less than a week to sort such a BIG problem out..

SO where NOW ???

The whole tone of the club's recent utterances seems to suggest they are banking on partial payment of the tax bill, and that they have an arrangement to that effect. Scary, or what?:(

maccawozzagod 22-10-2009 16:11

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
its like playing heads or tails for a football club

Pendle Red 22-10-2009 16:35

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
is that called Tossing:eek:

maccawozzagod 22-10-2009 16:42

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
only played by ******* ;)

Doug 22-10-2009 17:08

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
This is all conjecture and therefore may offend some

My guess would be that the club are trying to negotiate a large down payment i.e. £200k and the remaining £108k plus any fees over the next four quarters. Why? There’s a good chance of the club doing exceptionally well on the pitch over the course of the season and they are thinking that any money held back may facilitate any financial increases in running/player costs etc. It would mean that the bank accounts would look in better health and with the winding order lifted the club would be better placed to raise interest amongst the commercial sector i.e. sponsors.

If they pay in full (and they should) there may be ****** all left in the bank until long term plans like the Share Issue came on stream and the club will end up having to sell the likes of Grant or Symes in order to maintain the club, they themselves could only maintain inward investment from their own pockets for a short period of time.

I’m sorry but the like of the ASSF & ST wouldn’t help in anyway whatsoever over the next three or four years because of the lack of commercial interest; the only way out for us and the club is bums on seats, large gates for a couple of seasons and long term plans like the share issue being a sell out, there will be no big advances from the banks and in current financial climate and I don’t think there will be any large scale investment by a commercial sponsor, reason being there’s no large gate of potential buyers for their products, nor is there the potential for wide scale exposure via the TV or Internet because there’s no full time televised coverage; even radio coverage has no commercial interest for sponsors because we seem to have stopped covering live games under the mistaken belief that it will create smaller gates (bollocks in my view)

Its time to talk the club up I’m afraid, we the supporters, the council, local business that derives income from Stanley, people like Mr. Khan with cash to burn and a willingness to do it and the Club (yes them) need to all pull together, working together to survive.

Mr. O’Neil, current share holders and the Directors have got to take the lead here, yes there will be a need for a degree of openness from them, but we will have to trust them in return, because there is no way we will ever know exactly what’s happening in the club.

Get on with it David.

Redraine 22-10-2009 17:44

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
All on a knife edge then Doug, if you are right.

Bagpuss 22-10-2009 17:47

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 755595)
its like playing heads or tails for a football club

It will be heads and balls being lost if the club folds after rejecting Ilyas.:mad:

Doug 22-10-2009 18:02

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 755621)
All on a knife edge then Doug, if you are right.


Has it not been that way forever........this is nothing new, I bet it's been this close before and we never had a clue.

caretaker 22-10-2009 18:19

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Ignorance is bliss

simon 22-10-2009 19:02

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 755636)
Ignorance is bliss


OR just IGNORANT ??:cool:

Outback Ozzy 22-10-2009 20:26

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
To say I am very worried now is an understatement. I do not want Rochdale this Saturday to be the last game that Stanley play in the FL. I want a club to support next Friday at Grimsby and the following weeks either home or away in the FA cup and the following Tuesday against our old friends at Bury. If we are save, then I can see us making the area semi in the JPT - FA cup, will just have to wait and see what that brings, but hope for a decent (easy) draw at home and bank the £18k prize money and await the 2nd round. Please Accrington Stanley directors, open up and tell the fans what is happening and when this ball and chain (£308k) will be off our backs.

Billy Casper 22-10-2009 21:18

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
One of the things that literally makes me feel sick is that when\if we come out off this,
the chair-persons, Chief exec and other directors will be looked upon as hero's, the people that saved Accrington Stanley, **Bol**ox**(sorry for that).
All the people that have put over 100,000 of their own money in the Sos fund are\will be the hero's not that group of Lying, self serving Pigs, who have not even got the decency to tell the Real Hero's what is going on. Sorry for the Rant folks.

yonmon 23-10-2009 07:42

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 755701)
Please Accrington Stanley directors, open up and tell the fans what is happening and when this ball and chain (£308k) will be off our backs.



AIDES MEMOIRES ! (And I've got SM's permission to use this Gallic phrase!)...
appear to be of little use by now OO...and Lord knows I've tried my best !!.
But with THAT day imminent....and this game of ;brinkmanship' still being played out before our disbelieving eyes I can do little except resort to another little graphic to express my feelings ......

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ingindebt4.jpg

Is there a Lifeboat anywhere to be seen ??...Will the Loan Ranger ride over the Hill to save the Day ??....Am I the only one who sees The Horizon as being particularly empty this morning...?

My vision includes a few peasants huddled in a corner saying one to the other,,'Is it really true that they can't raise the £100K?'...I can't think what they are alluding to , but it is obviously something near to their Hearts!.

My Red-Coloured Crystal Ball is clouding over thank God!....the images emanating from it are getting too alarming to behold !!.


ps.....Is this going to be a Red-letter Day at last ???'

'ON STANLEY !!!ON!!...TO GREATER THINGS !!!'

Kiwi John 23-10-2009 08:42

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
I read that Mr O'Niel and ROB HEYS were going todonate 100,000 between them for the cause...Why on earth is ROB HEYS having to dip into his finances to such a degree?? It should be the directors finding the dosh, not the CEO. SHAME ON YOU STANLEY BOARD.

Wynonie Harris 23-10-2009 08:55

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Interesting interview with Luke Joyce (I presume the LET have to do interviews with the players to find something to print, as the board all appear to have been struck dumb)...

Joyce: Stanley crisis has been a worry (From Lancashire Telegraph)

We're all on tenterhooks, but, of course, it must be worrying for the players.

"People deserve to be reassured". :rolleyes:

Long time red 23-10-2009 09:10

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 755780)
I read that Mr O'Niel and ROB HEYS were going todonate 100,000 between them for the cause...Why on earth is ROB HEYS having to dip into his finances to such a degree?? It should be the directors finding the dosh, not the CEO. SHAME ON YOU STANLEY BOARD.

Rob is a great guy, but does he have £100k or a big chunk of the figure dont think so. Even if he had is it his job to provide money for the club, no. I think Doug's earlier post is nearer the truth "we have £xxxxK Mr Taxman and a firm promise of the balance to follow. Lets hope this gets resolved and the club can then start to put into action all of the muted money raising schemes, to prevent a repeat of the past few weeks

yonmon 23-10-2009 09:11

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 755784)
Interesting interview with Luke Joyce (I presume the LET have to do interviews with the players to find something to print, as the board all appear to have been struck dumb)...

Joyce: Stanley crisis has been a worry (From Lancashire Telegraph)

We're all on tenterhooks, but, of course, it must be worrying for the players.

"People deserve to be reassured". :rolleyes:

This makes such SAD reading Wyn !!..We tend to forget, with our own little doubts and concerns at the forefront of our minds, that men's livelihoods are dependent if not at stake!, on the machinations (or Not!!.) of The Directors of Accrington Stanley FC.

My concern for the physical and emotional well-being of JC and all the Squad cannot be measured...neither can the high regard I have for the manner in which they have responded to this tragic situation in which they have had no hand whatsoever !!

"People need to be reassured !"...I hope that when reading this News Report that those behaving so disgracefully towards those who really matter will be moved to make an INSTANT and POSITIVE reply !!

'ON STANLEY !!...ON!!...TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !!'

katei77 23-10-2009 10:23

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
i would be suprised if there was any statements now untill after the hearing on wed now they have kept quiet this long
already

VALAIRIAN 23-10-2009 11:28

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
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stanleyhouse 23-10-2009 11:35

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Does anyone remember what happened in the days leading up to our last winding up hearing on Sept 2nd.

No..?

Why?

Because Mr O'Neil didn't tell anyone it was happening. Not even his own directors!

He went down to London and pleaded for mercy.

He's done it once already......I believe he is about to do it again.

This time the whole of Accrington and beyond is watching.

Very brave or very foolish!

katei77 23-10-2009 12:15

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
i may be wrong but didnt rob go to the high court as well and would of thought a legal team so i dont think Don was all alone

stanleyhouse 23-10-2009 12:21

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
I didn't say he went alone. I said he didn't tell his own directors about the winding up order. Rob is chief executive - advisor to the Chairman, not a director.

katei77 23-10-2009 12:26

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
i would of thought it would be pretty hard to keep something like that so quiet but i guess its another thing the fans will never know the full details of

VALAIRIAN 23-10-2009 13:04

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katei77 (Post 755819)
i would of thought it would be pretty hard to keep something like that so quiet but i guess its another thing the fans will never know the full details of

We do know the full details, The DON/Rob Heys and Peter Marsden (Then Vice-Chair) went down and nobody else Director or clubwise knew anything about it - FACT! :eek: :) :)

Anyway this is digressing away from the thread, please lets keep positive and think about S.O.S. :) :) :)

mab 23-10-2009 13:57

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 755827)
We do know the full details, The DON/Rob Heys and Peter Marsden (Then Vice-Chair) went down and nobody else Director or clubwise knew anything about it - FACT! :eek: :) :)

Anyway this is digressing away from the thread, please lets keep positive and think about S.O.S. :) :) :)

well said VALAIRIAN!! Right then if theses rummers are right that the £100k which was PROMIST by rob from the Directors is'nt now going to be put in where dose this leave the club apart from in the s--t:( Is'nt it time that HUMBLE PIE,CAP IN HAND what ever you want to call it,The club or owner ask for help from khan/Marsden AND RESOLVE ALL ISSUES AND GET THIS BILL PAYED

maccawozzagod 23-10-2009 14:20

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
I dont think anything can be done now IF the bill can't be paid unless they stand forward and admit as much in the hope that somebody steps up to pay (unconditionally?) on our behalf. If they keep quiet and hope that the HMRC will do a deal then I think that by wednesday teatime the ground will be locked up.


either way I would like to take this opportunity to shout very loudly


DICKHEADS!


for the way that this entire farce has been handled

katei77 23-10-2009 15:54

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 755827)
We do know the full details, The DON/Rob Heys and Peter Marsden (Then Vice-Chair) went down and nobody else Director or clubwise knew anything about it - FACT! :eek: :) :)

Anyway this is digressing away from the thread, please lets keep positive and think about S.O.S. :) :) :)


POSTED BY STANLEYHOUSE




Re: "Save Our Stanley"
Does anyone remember what happened in the days leading up to our last winding up hearing on Sept 2nd.

No..?

Why?

Because Mr O'Neil didn't tell anyone it was happening. Not even his own directors!

He went down to London and pleaded for mercy.

He's done it once already......I believe he is about to do it again.

This time the whole of Accrington and beyond is watching.

Very brave or very foolish! Today 12:28



did i say don told no one?
no i didnt
said it would be a hard to keep quiet about but i guess the fans would never know the full facts

where did i say don told no one

shillelagh 23-10-2009 16:02

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Euromillions is £54 million tonight .....

katei77 23-10-2009 16:02

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 755838)
well said VALAIRIAN!! Right then if theses rummers are right that the £100k which was PROMIST by rob from the Directors is'nt now going to be put in where dose this leave the club apart from in the s--t:( Is'nt it time that HUMBLE PIE,CAP IN HAND what ever you want to call it,The club or owner ask for help from khan/Marsden AND RESOLVE ALL ISSUES AND GET THIS BILL PAYED

where has this come from no 100,000 from the directors?

Grimps 23-10-2009 16:23

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
well the don and his gang thought he could get all paid in with the sos but its no going to work so the **** has hit the taxman offices so lets hope i win the euros lott to nite

yonmon 23-10-2009 17:36

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 755841)
I dont think anything can be done now IF the bill can't be paid unless they stand forward and admit as much in the hope that somebody steps up to pay (unconditionally?) on our behalf. If they keep quiet and hope that the HMRC will do a deal then I think that by wednesday teatime the ground will be locked up.


either way I would like to take this opportunity to shout very loudly


DICKHEADS!


for the way that this entire farce has been handled

From this evening's consultation of my Red-Coloured Crystal Ball..

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/CSP...1/k0316163.jpg

Not a pretty sight !!....and Mick doesn't have a key for this one !!


"I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."....HE Said !!

mab 23-10-2009 17:51

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 755887)
From this evening's consultation of my Red-Coloured Crystal Ball..

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/CSP...1/k0316163.jpg

Not a pretty sight !!....and Mick doesn't have a key for this one !!


"I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."....HE Said !!

:sad8: Making me Very sad when you think this really could happen to our STANLEY!!, All we wanted was to be keepet informed on a daily bases and to see how far the moneymeter had gone up by each day, we don't care if it was by a couple a pounds it was there for everyone to see..Lets hope that this image that my friend yonmon has posted never comes reality on wednesday or ever.from a very tearfull fed up and sad mab:(

Grimps 24-10-2009 00:23

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
only had 1 ball out to nite so lets hope i will the loto 2 day

mab 24-10-2009 01:05

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
:)Well i now do believe that the red mist is clearing and the Taxman will be a happy chap "come wednesday!!!and all stanley fans were ever they may be, will be singing and dancing in the streets as the club moves on to brighter future under the leadership of Mr O'Neil and the rest of the board :)

Tin Monkey 24-10-2009 04:12

Re: "Save Our Stanley"
 
Ahhhh.... the selective informer strikes again eh? Shame it's such a closely guarded secret.


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