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I'm starting to feel quite sorry for Rob Heys. In a rare idle moment yesterday, I was tempted to compile a list of his generalisations, clichés and platitudes. But actually, he is in such an invidious position because of the minimal contribution from one co-chairperson (other than unhelpful, nay offensive, comments in a programme and the epic "I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again") and the non-existent contribution from the other (hopefully happy and smiling) co-chairperson. I have noticed that the number of people looking at this forum seems to have declined over the last 48 hours. Maybe I'm not correct here, but that is certainly my impression. If I am correct, does that mean that apathy is starting to take over? |
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come lest give what we can still it all help for this last week . you never say die accy untill we go under then
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having read the comments over the last few days,it saddens me to see so many of you being negative. Like most of you I have fingers crossed and truely hope we do come through all this .Unfortunately I feel personal feelings come into these comments.If people have a dislike of David O ,then they give negative comments about him. Personally, I have met both David O and Ilyas K only the once and find them both decent men . Lets be more positive and see what happens.The club is becoming two halves and we do all need to stand together and support whoever gets us through this,no matter who.So lets go to tonights match , enjoy seeing Shrewsbury lose ( hopefully) .This time next week,it should be all over one way or another.
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I wouldnt say its a dislike to any 1 person but a dislike to the be left in the dark by the club as a whole
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As for "supporting" the club, I reckon that the vast majority on here support the club to the very best of their ability, turning up to as many matches as they can and contributing as much cash as they can. All the club need to do is tell us what's happening! |
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maybe there might be a statement into nights programme?
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There is a write up in the LT but i cant find the link:(
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not just with regards to this whole sorry episode but with everything that goes on within the club. when people are not armed with the facts they will use hearsay and rumour (and nobody is exempt from that). When hearsay and rumour is exhausted they will simply make up it up - educated guesses and so on. So often it could be nipped in the bud with a quick statement but that is hardly ever done. Its as though they hark back to the old Kipax saying that no all publicity is good publicity. Communication is the key to absolutely everything and should be etched on every wall in the club. |
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If they do not have these skills, they should not be in positions of authority. |
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Just received my official applicaton form
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No wonder the club is having to sort out the "legal stuff". It could be heading for big trouble if it is not careful. The "shares" package was advertised at £250 + vat. As far as I can recall, there was no reference to premiums in the initial offer. Value of premimums? Possible allegations of favouritism? This could be a legal and Google Page Ranking minefield. |
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These are the packages:
Platinum Limited Company Share and Official Certificate numbered SOS 001/500/999/1000 with limited SOS edition replica home shirt marked ‘SOS 001’/‘SOS 1000’ signed by full playing squad and management plus framed. £1,000 x 4 Gold Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition home shirt as worn by the squad in 2009/10 season. Numbered SOS 002 to SOS040 £500 x39 Silver Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition replica home shirt and signed by an Accrington Stanley squad member of your choice.Numbered SOS041 to SOS100 + SOS100 + SOS 200/300/400/500/600/700/800/900 £500 x 67 Bronze Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition replica home shirt. Numbered SOS101 to SOS998 (excl hundreds) £250 x 890 There are upgrades available as well Over to you lawyers now............ |
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It's a lot to pay for a picture of a worthless share, I will save my money for a supporters trust, thank you.
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What exactly is a "limited company share"? How is it related to the "B shares" originally advertised? Does it have voting rights?
Three questions to start the ball rolling. |
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Story now breaking in the national media...
STANLEY OFFER SHARES TO SUPPORTERS | Coca Cola League 2 Football Transfer News, Football News, Fixtures, Results, Match Reports, Stats So the share money IS going to be used to pay the taxman. Better get buying 'em now! |
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Revived Red said "Value of premimums? Possible allegations of favouritism? This could be a legal and Google Page Ranking minefield." - hence my glib comment about lawyers. I can't see where I've slagged anybody off but there you go. By what I seen on here and in the various Media outlets there are loads of people trying to save Stanley - why else would I have donated to the SOS fund and asked the club for a share application form? |
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Questions DO need asking because the terms of the offer seem to change. How about looking at one of your posts: Quote:
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In respect of the club I think we should give them some credit. :) |
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I assume that the information which has arrived includes a facility to pay now (hopefully mine'll be there when I get home), as if we are using the money to make up the shortfall in the tax bill, we need to get it in ASAP!
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Any chance of seeing what the shirt looks like....:) |
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Cheers, Doug. That's good - at least we can see now how we are going to make the money up. Still wish the club would put it in writing on t'fishy site though!
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I am gutted personally that I cannot afford a certain shirt, but I think it is a good idea to maximise this share issue, by doing what they have done - and lets face it we do not have to buy any specific share/shirt - the club are making an extra few grand, good idea :) :)
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are we having another darts nite 26 10 09 the last one was a bad turn out but very good
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i dont think the OSC will be running one Grimps :(
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The goods wont be ready for collecton till December 1st :O
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There is a nice little advert on the Official website, for Sportsman Dinner at the Dunk. Very flashy :)
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No price mentioned, does that mean there is a Gold, Silver & Bronze package ? :D |
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Evening all :)
Ive just updated the totals :) |
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Liverpool FC Donation £6,500.00 :confused:
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I'm sure every penny is gratefully received but what a strange figure :confused: Presumably it has some significance ? |
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I've just realised, it's probably Rafa's win bonus and they didn't know what to do with it :D
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Maybe they decided to match what the bucket collection was :confused:
Bucket Collections(Ewood Park & Anfield) Club/Stanley Ultras 26/09/09 £6,644.00 Liverpool FC Donation Liverpool FC 21/10/09 £6,500.00 Liverpool FC Accommodating SOS bucket collectors plus kindly donating an additional £6,500! Liverpoolfc.tv: Official Web Site |
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Does anyone know if there have been anymore developments with raising the rest of the money? I seem to recall Rob Heys saying there was going to be a big announcement last week?:confused: I hope the board don't leave it till the last minute to sort it!!
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Buoyant Upholstery Oakbank Mills, Hallam Road, Nelson BB9 8AJ Raffle prize provider .:Buoyant Upholstery:. What raffle :confused: |
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Be great if Stanley get Leeds at Elland Road in FA Cup Draw on Sunday, odds on that Fixture will be changed to be Live on TV as the TV love us 'Dirty Leeds' losing to clubs below us, coupled to a big Elland Road crowd and TV money, should pay the outstanding debts totally, here's hoping we will be welcoming you all to Elland Road soon
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Have I got this right?; Liverpool FC have donated 6500 pounds to ASFC ? If so, a part of me wants to say "Wow, thanks so much Liverpool" while another (smaller) bit says "Is that all,just a quick dip into your office petty cash tin.."
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Thanks Liverpool FC,very grateful for all donations. Six days now!:eek:,Think i'll soon have repetitive strain injury from all the checking up on the website over the last few days :p,i guess the big announcement was the share issue then.
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Would've been nice if the club had posted a story on t'fishy site explaining what this donation was all about...did Liverpool agree to match what was raised in the bucket collection or what? Would also have been nice if someone from the club could've publicly said "thank you to Liverpool"...but I suppose that would've been too much to ask for. :rolleyes:
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i'm all of a sudden very worried again!
they wanted to announce the debt cleared with a couple of weeks to go. They have said the loan is 'sorted' and they have said that the 'directors' would be putting in a hundred grand. Yet they haven't. Is there a problem? |
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worried?????????
think we have got past that point now!! its time to really panic!! my faith in seeing ASFC in november is be very tested now!!! |
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:confused: Confused is the word ( QUOTE )The shares are available after David Styring sold his 15 per cent shareholding to the club, who will retain five per cent and offer the other 10 per cent to fans. (UNQUOTE ) Were did the money come from to pay Mr Styring out!!WORRIED SICK over this come on David and Rob PLEASE make a statment SOON:)
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Likewise, Mab!
Time the club levelled with us long-suffering fans and told us exactly what the hell's going on. :( |
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No word yet on troubled Accrington Stanley’s rescue target 10:00am Thursday 22nd October 2009 Comments (5) Have your say » By Chris Flanagan » ACCRINGTON Stanley were remaining tight-lipped yesterday on whether they had yet reached their fund-raising target. Stanley must return to the High Court in London on Wednesday to face winding up proceedings if they are unable to pay off a £308,000 tax bill. Chief executive Rob Heys revealed last Tuesday that a plan was in place to pay off the bill and that more details would be released within 48 hours, but no announcement has yet been made. That has led to fans, encouraged by last week’s comments, growing increasingly concerned again about the club’s future. When contacted yesterday, joint chairperson Dave O’Neill declined to give an update on Stanley’s current situation ahead of Wednesday’s hearing. The club have been in negotiations with HM Revenue and Customs in a bid to strike a new deal to pay off the debt, and Stanley have already raised around £110,000 via the Save Our Stanley Fund. That figure includes the £12,000 generated by last week’s friendly against Blackburn Rovers and Stanley remain confident of taking the fund-raising total up to the £150,000 mark by Wednesday. Key people inside the club — including Mr Heys and Mr O’Neill — are due to put in £100,000 of their own money, while Stanley last week revealed that they had also agreed a short-term loan of around £50,000 from an as yet unnamed local businessmen. The club last week announced plans for an issue of 1,000 new shares, which could raise around £250,000 if all are purchased. The shares are available after David Styring sold his 15 per cent shareholding to the club, who will retain five per cent and offer the other 10 per cent to fans. I DESPAIR !!! |
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I saw on the fishy site that if you add your holiday report on realholidayreports.com that £1.00 is donated to the club. After just coming back of a super holiday thought I would add my report, while donating to the club but every time I try and enter my report it says Invalid Input Detected. Wondered if anyone else had tried entering a report? Fortunately, I thought about copying the text before I submitted it so I haven't lost my essay! Will save it as a word document and try again tomorrow.
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I think we must now assume that there is a problem with paying the taxman in full.....
NO way would they leave it to less than a week to sort such a BIG problem out.. SO where NOW ??? |
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its like playing heads or tails for a football club
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is that called Tossing:eek:
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only played by ******* ;)
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This is all conjecture and therefore may offend some
My guess would be that the club are trying to negotiate a large down payment i.e. £200k and the remaining £108k plus any fees over the next four quarters. Why? There’s a good chance of the club doing exceptionally well on the pitch over the course of the season and they are thinking that any money held back may facilitate any financial increases in running/player costs etc. It would mean that the bank accounts would look in better health and with the winding order lifted the club would be better placed to raise interest amongst the commercial sector i.e. sponsors. If they pay in full (and they should) there may be ****** all left in the bank until long term plans like the Share Issue came on stream and the club will end up having to sell the likes of Grant or Symes in order to maintain the club, they themselves could only maintain inward investment from their own pockets for a short period of time. I’m sorry but the like of the ASSF & ST wouldn’t help in anyway whatsoever over the next three or four years because of the lack of commercial interest; the only way out for us and the club is bums on seats, large gates for a couple of seasons and long term plans like the share issue being a sell out, there will be no big advances from the banks and in current financial climate and I don’t think there will be any large scale investment by a commercial sponsor, reason being there’s no large gate of potential buyers for their products, nor is there the potential for wide scale exposure via the TV or Internet because there’s no full time televised coverage; even radio coverage has no commercial interest for sponsors because we seem to have stopped covering live games under the mistaken belief that it will create smaller gates (bollocks in my view) Its time to talk the club up I’m afraid, we the supporters, the council, local business that derives income from Stanley, people like Mr. Khan with cash to burn and a willingness to do it and the Club (yes them) need to all pull together, working together to survive. Mr. O’Neil, current share holders and the Directors have got to take the lead here, yes there will be a need for a degree of openness from them, but we will have to trust them in return, because there is no way we will ever know exactly what’s happening in the club. Get on with it David. |
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All on a knife edge then Doug, if you are right.
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Has it not been that way forever........this is nothing new, I bet it's been this close before and we never had a clue. |
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Ignorance is bliss
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To say I am very worried now is an understatement. I do not want Rochdale this Saturday to be the last game that Stanley play in the FL. I want a club to support next Friday at Grimsby and the following weeks either home or away in the FA cup and the following Tuesday against our old friends at Bury. If we are save, then I can see us making the area semi in the JPT - FA cup, will just have to wait and see what that brings, but hope for a decent (easy) draw at home and bank the £18k prize money and await the 2nd round. Please Accrington Stanley directors, open up and tell the fans what is happening and when this ball and chain (£308k) will be off our backs.
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One of the things that literally makes me feel sick is that when\if we come out off this,
the chair-persons, Chief exec and other directors will be looked upon as hero's, the people that saved Accrington Stanley, **Bol**ox**(sorry for that). All the people that have put over 100,000 of their own money in the Sos fund are\will be the hero's not that group of Lying, self serving Pigs, who have not even got the decency to tell the Real Hero's what is going on. Sorry for the Rant folks. |
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AIDES MEMOIRES ! (And I've got SM's permission to use this Gallic phrase!)... appear to be of little use by now OO...and Lord knows I've tried my best !!. But with THAT day imminent....and this game of ;brinkmanship' still being played out before our disbelieving eyes I can do little except resort to another little graphic to express my feelings ...... http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ingindebt4.jpg Is there a Lifeboat anywhere to be seen ??...Will the Loan Ranger ride over the Hill to save the Day ??....Am I the only one who sees The Horizon as being particularly empty this morning...? My vision includes a few peasants huddled in a corner saying one to the other,,'Is it really true that they can't raise the £100K?'...I can't think what they are alluding to , but it is obviously something near to their Hearts!. My Red-Coloured Crystal Ball is clouding over thank God!....the images emanating from it are getting too alarming to behold !!. ps.....Is this going to be a Red-letter Day at last ???' 'ON STANLEY !!!ON!!...TO GREATER THINGS !!!' |
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I read that Mr O'Niel and ROB HEYS were going todonate 100,000 between them for the cause...Why on earth is ROB HEYS having to dip into his finances to such a degree?? It should be the directors finding the dosh, not the CEO. SHAME ON YOU STANLEY BOARD.
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Interesting interview with Luke Joyce (I presume the LET have to do interviews with the players to find something to print, as the board all appear to have been struck dumb)...
Joyce: Stanley crisis has been a worry (From Lancashire Telegraph) We're all on tenterhooks, but, of course, it must be worrying for the players. "People deserve to be reassured". :rolleyes: |
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My concern for the physical and emotional well-being of JC and all the Squad cannot be measured...neither can the high regard I have for the manner in which they have responded to this tragic situation in which they have had no hand whatsoever !! "People need to be reassured !"...I hope that when reading this News Report that those behaving so disgracefully towards those who really matter will be moved to make an INSTANT and POSITIVE reply !! 'ON STANLEY !!...ON!!...TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !!' |
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i would be suprised if there was any statements now untill after the hearing on wed now they have kept quiet this long
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From Official site:-
SOS Fundraising Thursday 22nd Oct 2009 Realholidayreports.com support the 'Save Our Stanley' campaign Realholidayreports.com have come up with a fundraising scheme to support Accrington Stanley FC in their ‘Save Our Stanley’ campaign by donating £1 back to the club for every report added onto the website with the code ASFC. Realholidayreports.com has been proud partners of Accrington Stanley Football Club since 2004, sponsoring the dugouts and several fixtures over the years associated with the club. They have pledged to support Accrington Stanley FC in the SOS fundraising campaign and for every visitor who places a report on a holiday or hotel visit within the last two years and quotes promotional code ‘ASFC’ in the promotional code box at the bottom of the report, Realholidayreports.com will donate £1 back to the club. The club are asking everyone to take part in posting you most recent holiday reports – this is a way of you helping to raise money in directly and where everyone can get involved. Our initial target is to submit 10,000 reports, therefore £10,000, so please spread the word. Simply click following link or the logo and fill out your report now… http://www.realholidayreports.com/AccringtonStanley/ |
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Does anyone remember what happened in the days leading up to our last winding up hearing on Sept 2nd.
No..? Why? Because Mr O'Neil didn't tell anyone it was happening. Not even his own directors! He went down to London and pleaded for mercy. He's done it once already......I believe he is about to do it again. This time the whole of Accrington and beyond is watching. Very brave or very foolish! |
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i may be wrong but didnt rob go to the high court as well and would of thought a legal team so i dont think Don was all alone
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I didn't say he went alone. I said he didn't tell his own directors about the winding up order. Rob is chief executive - advisor to the Chairman, not a director.
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i would of thought it would be pretty hard to keep something like that so quiet but i guess its another thing the fans will never know the full details of
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Anyway this is digressing away from the thread, please lets keep positive and think about S.O.S. :) :) :) |
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I dont think anything can be done now IF the bill can't be paid unless they stand forward and admit as much in the hope that somebody steps up to pay (unconditionally?) on our behalf. If they keep quiet and hope that the HMRC will do a deal then I think that by wednesday teatime the ground will be locked up.
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POSTED BY STANLEYHOUSE Re: "Save Our Stanley" Does anyone remember what happened in the days leading up to our last winding up hearing on Sept 2nd. No..? Why? Because Mr O'Neil didn't tell anyone it was happening. Not even his own directors! He went down to London and pleaded for mercy. He's done it once already......I believe he is about to do it again. This time the whole of Accrington and beyond is watching. Very brave or very foolish! Today 12:28 did i say don told no one? no i didnt said it would be a hard to keep quiet about but i guess the fans would never know the full facts where did i say don told no one |
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well the don and his gang thought he could get all paid in with the sos but its no going to work so the **** has hit the taxman offices so lets hope i win the euros lott to nite
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http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/CSP...1/k0316163.jpg Not a pretty sight !!....and Mick doesn't have a key for this one !! "I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."....HE Said !! |
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only had 1 ball out to nite so lets hope i will the loto 2 day
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:)Well i now do believe that the red mist is clearing and the Taxman will be a happy chap "come wednesday!!!and all stanley fans were ever they may be, will be singing and dancing in the streets as the club moves on to brighter future under the leadership of Mr O'Neil and the rest of the board :)
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Ahhhh.... the selective informer strikes again eh? Shame it's such a closely guarded secret.
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