vaccine shot

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The thing is Sue, that the companies that produce the vaccines have a lot of clout and I do not doubt that they would have the power to suppress such information, or discredit the researcher if they wished(not that I am suggesting that is what has been done).

No, I don't doubt that, Margaret, but if such is the case, how come the pseudoscience websites claim to know about it? These are the people I get so cross about.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by susie123

No, I don't doubt that, Margaret, but if such is the case, how come the pseudoscience websites claim to know about it? These are the people I get so cross about.

Now if you were a hardened conspiracy theorist , you could surmise that pseudoscience websites are 'set up' for the purpose of discrediting whatever they claim as facts. (even though it might be true)

To use a common conspiracy term -
'once you start digging you will be amazed at how deep the rabbit hole goes'.

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by susie123

Funny that's what Dr Mercola says - could it be a direct quote?

I'll reserve judgment till I've seen some references. When I tried to Google the subject all but one of the answers on the first page were quotes from Dr Mercola's article. I gave up after that.

so you'll also reserve judgment about the period after vaccines are given? in which children often lose their soft spot in their cranium, as the swelling increases.
Why would a kids brain swell after vaccines were given?

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Now if you were a hardened conspiracy theorist , you could surmise that pseudoscience websites are 'set up' for the purpose of discrediting whatever they claim as facts. (even though it might be true)

To use a common conspiracy term -
'once you start digging you will be amazed at how deep the rabbit hole goes'.

lol " you will be amazed at how deep the rabbit hole goes" heard that once or twice before

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Looks like the NHS has been reading your posts

I wonder how much that load of rubbish cost us?
And how many patients died of thirst/heart attacks, strokes etc while the whole hospital staff were acting the mick on it?
And how much NHS time has been wasted by staff having to watch it?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I wonder how much that load of rubbish cost us?
And how many patients died of thirst/heart attacks, strokes etc while the whole hospital staff were acting the mick on it?
And how much NHS time has been wasted by staff having to watch it?

They could have been actors. I would be surprised if they used actual NHS staff....and yes, I wondered how much it cost too(cynical old burger that I am).

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Now if you were a hardened conspiracy theorist , you could surmise that pseudoscience websites are 'set up' for the purpose of discrediting whatever they claim as facts. (even though it might be true)

To use a common conspiracy term -
'once you start digging you will be amazed at how deep the rabbit hole goes'.

So, MargaretR, the 'pseudoscience websites' are 'set up' by counter conspiracy people to discredit them?
Is that what you surmise?
If so, why do you quote them? You're sleeping with the enemy.

[Margaret Pilkington]

well, you have to keep your bum warm on something

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Oh dear, I think Chris S/J has finally gone over the edge!

Someone send for a doctor, I'm sure there's an injection which can help him.

He did the last time he was a member, that's why he was removed.

I look forward to the same happening soon.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS

so you'll also reserve judgment about the period after vaccines are given? in which children often lose their soft spot in their cranium, as the swelling increases.
Why would a kids brain swell after vaccines were given?

Well in this case I have found some references to TBF (Transient bulging of the fontanelle) and IIH (Idiopathic intracranial hypertension). One states:

We cannot conclude that vaccines cause TBF. Further controlled studies are necessary. Even if further research verifies TBF as a rare side effect, immunization benefits would still vastly outweigh this hypothetical risk.

ScienceDirect.com - The Journal of Pediatrics - Transient Bulging Fontanelle after Vaccination: Case Report and Review of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System

And another:

The pathogenesis of IIH or TBF is unknown. IIH is not a disorder with a single causative factor. In theory, IIH may be caused by the following factors: parenchymal edema, increased cerebral blood volume, excessive CSF production, compromised CSF resorption,and venous outflow obstruction. Some studies have reported TBF or IIH in association with vaccination, otitis media, roseola, gastroenteritis, pharyngitis, acute upper respiratory infections, chickenpox, measles, and other medical problems including endocrine abnormalities or drugs. However, there are no case-control studies to date with definitive causes in children.

I reckon the jury's still out on that one.

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Less

He did the last time he was a member, that's why he was removed.

I look forward to the same happening soon.

i sense another witch hunt

[susie123]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Now if you were a hardened conspiracy theorist , you could surmise that pseudoscience websites are 'set up' for the purpose of discrediting whatever they claim as facts. (even though it might be true)

To use a common conspiracy term -
'once you start digging you will be amazed at how deep the rabbit hole goes'.

That's a bit deep for me...

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I wonder how much that load of rubbish cost us?
And how many patients died of thirst/heart attacks, strokes etc while the whole hospital staff were acting the mick on it?
And how much NHS time has been wasted by staff having to watch it?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

They could have been actors. I would be surprised if they used actual NHS staff....and yes, I wondered how much it cost too(cynical old burger that I am).

My thoughts too... what a load of rubbish...

[Less]

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS

i sense another witch hunt

Why? are you still smarting from what you consider to be the last one?
You know and I know, who you are, perhaps if you came on without wanting to change the world into your ideal you would stay a little longer on site?

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Less

Why? are you still smarting from what you consider to be the last one?
You know and I know, who you are, perhaps if you came on without wanting to change the world into your ideal you would stay a little longer on site?

i was refering to the witch hunt of (sir)jimbo

As i've stated numerous times less i dont want folk to do anything because of something i've said/posted on here. i'm just putting info out and folk can do there own reseach and act accordingly,,your boring me, get over it