Child Exploitation

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Aw, shucks

Keep insulting me and everything could change, very very easily

[DaveinGermany]

taken from todays Telegraph, a voice that claims there is also a racial element despite what the PC & nay sayers would have.

Some Pakistani men see white women as 'fair game', says Baroness Warsi - Telegraph

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

taken from today's Telegraph, a voice that claims there is also a racial element despite what the PC & nay sayers would have.

Some Pakistani men see white women as 'fair game', says Baroness Warsi - Telegraph

Well Dave, Pakistani men treat their own women like second class citizens, they always walk one step behind, so I would think their perception of white women as fair game is about right

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well Dave, Pakistani men treat their own women like second class citizens, they always walk one step behind, so I would think their perception of white women as fair game is about right

It really is a cultural attitude & there is no way of denying the issue, by denial & ignoring the problems aren't faced & they will continue. The sooner the whiners & liberalists realise this & accept action needs to be taken instead of tacitly condoning the problems by passing them off as minor cultural differences the sooner things can be brought under control. It certainly doesn't help matters when their own won't face up to the problems & denounce those involved.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

It really is a cultural attitude & there is no way of denying the issue, by denial & ignoring the problems aren't faced & they will continue. The sooner the whiners & liberalists realise this & accept action needs to be taken instead of tacitly condoning the problems by passing them off as minor cultural differences the sooner things can be brought under control. It certainly doesn't help matters when their own won't face up to the problems & denounce those involved.

Think you've got that spot on Dave

[Margaret Pilkington]

One mosque leader was reported to have said 'if you leave meat outside uncovered, and the cats eat it.....is the cat to blame'
So this muslim leader is comparing muslim men to animals......and white women to meat.
Not the best analogy....and perhaps it explains the Pakistani attitude to women.
Personally, I think the mosque leader did the muslim male community no favours and would have been better saying nothing.

The problems are ethnic, attitudinal and cultural....and until they are recognised as such, there isn't a hope in hell of sorting them out.

[maxthecollie]

When in Rome!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by maxthecollie

When in Rome!

Well the majority of us have been saying that but, the dogooders think its us that should kowtow and we should change, from my point of view hell will freeze over first

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

One mosque leader was reported to have said 'if you leave meat outside uncovered, and the cats eat it.....is the cat to blame'

So if these cats get run over when they're out prowling ? The owners should have better control over their animals. Cuts both ways really.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Well, that is one way of viewing it I suppose, but then, you are blaming those who were preyed on by these predatory males.
It is easy to blame the victims - and their families....but these men were adults and capable of determining that what they were doing was very wrong......plying (vulnerable) children with alcohol and drugs in order to assault them and steal their childhood.

Being run over is an accident...being sexually assaulted is not.

I think the analogy was very poor and coming from a muslim leader is even worse, it makes me think he isn't really bothered that what these men were doing was morally, ethically, and legally wrong.

[maxthecollie]

What would happen if the boot was on the other foot ?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by maxthecollie

What would happen if the boot was on the other foot ?

A very very good question

[maxthecollie]

Answers Please

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by maxthecollie

What would happen if the boot was on the other foot ?

Well, in essence what the muslim leader was implying, was that the boot wouldn't be on the other foot, as they(the muslim community) make damn sure that they don't leave their meat(girls) out uncovered......for the cats to get at.

Their girls are chaperoned everywhere they go....which may account for some of the problems that muslim, testosterone fuelled males have, in satisfying their sexual needs.

[annesingleton]

I haven't added to this thread so far because I have professional involvement and didn't really want to add to it. All I can say is that this issue has been going on since at least 2004 and probably longer, and is certainly a cultural issue which is acknowledged although not publicly for obvious reasons. Until it is brought properly into the open it is unlikely to go away. How that can be done I don't know.