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yeh aint the only cynical one Margaret, also no flour,no tea bags,pasta,eggs,tins of beans, its mind blowing whats been snapped up by selfish gets,if i ever stoop that low i hope i get the virus,

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The first hour of shopping in Iceland was devoted to the elderly...there were two staff on the doors and those wanting to shop during that time had to show either a bus pass or something which confirmed their age...and they were only letting a few people into the shop at a time...which meant that it was possible to distance yourself from other shoppers.

Old and Bargain are going to be devoting the first hour of shopping to the elderly too...AND they are going to be setting limits on the number of the same item you can buy(not before time).

The other thing about this store is that any of their staff who have to self isolate will get full pay for the two weeks this entails.....any members of staff who do not need to use this will get an extra two weeks pay at the end of the year.
they have put aside 30m quid to do this...unlike the greedy billionaire Richard Branson who is asking his staff to take unpaid leave(miserable git).

I do not usually wish anyone ill, but don't you just wish that those who have no thought for others could get a dose of something that might require that they need to use every single sheet of the bog rolls they panic bought?

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Boris is asking the whole Country to pull together, seems nobody is listening.
I wouldn't like most of the bartstewards behind me in battle.

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I went into both Asda and Tesco this evening, in Asda there was no vegetables (potatoes, onions, mushrooms, leeks, carrots etc) whatsoever, nor salad stuff (tomatoes, cucumber, lettuce - none of which you can freeze) or much fresh fruit. I did manage to but some onions from Tesco - now all I need is to find somewhere selling chicken fillets so I can make a Chicken Rogan Josh.

Another thing that had run out in Asda was butter/margarine, loads of bacon in Asda though....

I had one cheeky muslim boy (maybe 10-12ish) ask me to buy 2 lots of powdered baby milk formula for his cousin brothers children.... none the less he was told to go forth and multiply.

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Aldi had a reasonable supply of both fruit and veg.....all of the things on your list.....and there was a good supply of salad stuff too....if you were happy to brave the long queues.....and it wasn't because the checkout staff were being slow.
I have NEVER seen so many customers in there....not even the maddest Christmas buy compares to this utter madness.

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[QUOTE=Gremlin;1238395]Boris is asking the whole Country to pull together, seems nobody is listening.

lots are but they do not make good news. like every time in history pulling together does not suit every person as many will be out to make as much money out of it as they can. feel sorry for the bin men when this is over with many having overflowing bins of stuff they did not want anyway. will make christmas look like a savvy shopping expedition.

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I have not heard anything from the God Botherers of "any" religion asking the faithfull to stay away from the churches, temples, Mosques etc, may they think that their father will not allow the Corona virus into his home.
I now await the flak and the wrath from above.
Be happy, Your's Taddy.

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Well, the update on Old And Bargains....the plan to devote the first hour to the older folk was not being enforced...neither was there any restrictions on what people were picking up off the shelves...though to be fair there was precious little on the shelves.

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Taddy most churches have suspended services....and there will only be five people allowed at any church wedding....the bride and groom, two witnesses and the celebrant.
This rule applies until further notice.
Don't know what the Mosques are doing.

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i hear the accy mosques have cancelled todays services.

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Had Asda delivery this morning ( Had home delivery for a few years) driver said it was same at Asda anybody and everyone was shopping as soon as the doors opened. So much for 1st hour elderly etc only.

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It seems that Mosques in the area have cancelled Friday prayers.

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I went in Aldi around half 10 after work & it was quite calm, certainly not as manic as last Friday & got everything I needed. Yes, there were gaps on the shelves but nothing apocalypse like as I've been told is happening elsewhere.
Only thing I couldn't get was cat litter but that can wait till tomorrow when I've got time to hunt round - that is one thing that's puzzling me though, who on earth stockpiles that!?!

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You have a fair point. Crazy thing about this virus is the hysteria. People panic already. What more if they reveal the names of the patients. It's what others would do to the remaining suspected people. The things we do because of fear...

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Accymad, it seems that there is not much Cat litter about....well not the economy stuff...if you want Catsan then that is available.
I was looking for cat litter too.
I have four cats and they do not toilet outside....they are trained to use a litter box.
This is to protect my neighbours gardens and their children too.
If I see any on my travels I will post it on here.

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Not sure if this belongs here but anyone who does online shopping with Asda the next available delivery slots are 4th April onwards.

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Thank you, I will do the same- my two girls only use their boxes too - if they go out they cry to come in for a wee bless 'em

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Mine too...the best of it is two of them were outside cats...strays...they go out and cry to come in and use the tray.
They have both got used to finer things.

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Now that the gov has told bars, clubs and pubs to close after tonight, alcohol will be the next thing people will be stock piling.

Asda did have some of their own brand cat litter this evening when I went in.

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Unlikely to find this on mainstream media, which seems intent on just scaring the beejeebus out of people, but thought this was worth a read.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...ed-ventilator/

Talking of the media, I’ve been listening to the PM’s 5 o’clock press briefing this week and, after less than a week, the questions from the assembled journos have already degenerated to the pathetic (e.g. “...are you going to see your mother this weekend, Prime Minister?”). In almost every instance it was abundantly clear that the questions were framed in the hope of extracting a sound bite that will making tomorrow’s headlines.
Can we keep the pubs open and close down the media?

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yeh know exile we have been saying that for days the media is PATHETIC, trouble is though some clowns swallow it all.

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Now isn't that the most wonderful idea ever?
I will drink to that!

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We know there are those who would like to see Boris fail in whatever he has to deal with.

Let me say from the outset I was not keen on Boris,I felt that he was all smoke and mirrors(but I was unconcerned about all the stories regarding his private life).
So far He has done much of what he said he would do.

He has probably had the hardest job of any Prime minister since World War two...firstly with all the skulduggery from inside his own party regarding Brexit and now this Health crisis.
This is like a war, but a war with an enemy that is invisble and a shape shifter....it does not get any harder than that.

Whatever he does, he will be damned if he does...and doubly damned if he doesn't.
And to see the pathetic point scoring attempts by Jeremy Corbyn and John Mc Donnell...as if they could do anything better.

I think when history is written it will show that he was a leader of note...and of course he will not get everything right...in times like these you have to do the best you can with what you have to hand.
As Churchill said 'When you are going through Hell...keep going'.

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Thank you Ryewolf...own brand does it for me...Did you get that Accymad?

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Yes, just read it Margaret - thanks to both you & Ryewolf, I'll pop in tomorrow

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I am sending my other half early doors.
I hope he can get a couple of bags....and some cat biscuits too.

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well Accymad....I hope you did better than my old feller.....The BF(bloody fool, not boyfriend) paid £12 for a bag of Catsan...despite me telling him to walk away unless they had their own essenials brand.
He bought Whiskas cat biscuits too and a box of sachets....but all in all it was not what I wanted.
I will not use the Catsan until we are desperate...it is like givig them gold dust to wazz on.

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Oh dear Margaret, but bless him at least he did come home with some - I'm not keen on CatSan myself, besides the price it's awful for treading through the house. Usually stick to the wood or paper pellets from B & M if they're available - i'm about to venture out on my hunt, will let you know how i go on, watch this space :)

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Seems like I owe the faithful a genuine appology.

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Accymad....B&M had the wood peelets yesterday, but my lot won't use these at all.
I bought some and ended up with little 'messages' behind the back door in my kitchen.
Vets for pets also had some Cat litter, but the bags were large and I was coming home by bus...so could'nt carry one.

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Taddy, no apology needed.

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Quite, who wants to use a draughty outdoor lavvy nowadays? :D

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And this is why UK will thrive outside the eu & its stifling set ways. The British have always been capable, innovative & pioneers, that is the reason we dominated most of the world & our standards & methods of parliament, law & education were adopted even after we retired to our little grey Island.


Whiny, self loathing, bed wetting lefterists need to learn this & shut their yap. There is a reason we were known as Great Britain!

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And the moral of this story is ......? :D


Can you not get some sand or something? Or will they not use that either?

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aye but the terminally stupid, that penny will never drop. in my view Dave,

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They might use sand son, but the problem is that they seem to like to kick whatever they poop into, all over the place(I think it is a game, like who can pee the furthest...little boys do still do that don't they) so sand would get everywhere....and be less visible.
The litter trays sit on mats that are supposed to remove any litter from their feet and looking at what stays on the mat...well, they do work...but still i find litter(clean) on the duvet(they like to sleep on the foot of the bed)

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[QUOTE=AccyMad;1238405]I
Only thing I couldn't get was cat litter

managed to get some cat litter yesterday. the thing is that we have not got a cat but after reading about the lack of it on here i thought i,d better buy some as you never know.

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Whatever you may think of this guy (I have no strong opinion), as we have little to do but sit, scared in our houses, this is worth listening to under the current circumstances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTZu6_TjU8

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With people flocking to the seaside and hills what is the big heath problem, Corvid19, deafness or lunacy?

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was gonna listen exile but it wont play.

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Watched it....and they call him a nutter....but he has said stuff that seems plausible and is terribly scary.
Do I believe him.....well, you are not scared of something you do not believe.

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he actually said stuff thats closer to my thinking about the subjects mentioned than lots of other stuff being quoted.

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me too...some of this stuff I have been saying to family during discussions....and that we are also thinking it makes me feel a bit spooked.

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Well, after a fruitless visit to B & M yesterday (they didn't even have a space to put any cat litter if any did come into stock, it had been filled up with scratching posts & beds) I extended my search into town this morning & am now the proud owner of a 10 litre bag of cat litter, purchased in Wilkinsons woohoo!!
Like your hubby Margaret I had to succombe to buying Catsan but at this stage, beggars can't be choosers - just hope my kitties appreciate it :)

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I think I am going to start shredding newspapers.....give that a try.
I can fully understand retailers wanting to stock food items... but that doesn't help our cat lavvy issues.
On a poritive note...Hotels in London have allocated 300 beds for homeless people....to try and protect them from the virus....I like that. more should be doing it.
On a bum note...Tesco have raised the prices of 600 items. Their reasoning? It will stop folk from panic buying! Yeah Bob....why do I not believe that?
(it might be because my other half spent stupid money on kitty litter)

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These lemmings are a complete pain, not only are they not thinking of others they are not thinking of themselves standing close together talking while waiting to stockpile as soon as possible. (Margret you might want to take a valium 1/2 hour before reading this link)
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...ealth-workers/

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there is one local now, next door to a friend of mine about 1 mile away. hill walker they are more interested in Panic Buying than other peoples safety complete Selfish Dickheads,

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My partner popped in to Lidl at Todmorden this afternoon because the car park looked near empty. She managed to get all we want including paracetamol, bread, fruit, sugar, coffee, and a few other bits. She said there was a shelf full of toilet rolls with nobody grabbing bags full. My friend had a new washing machine delivered from Currys today and the driver had most of his van full of freezers, he said they were the most ordered white good in the store.

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Thats a great example of what im saying Gremlin = freezers, thats what these selfish gets are doing, all these peoples freezers didnt pack in all at once, they are PATHETIC,:mad:

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Russell, we are taking a trip to Lidl tomorrow....on my list of things will be cat litter paracetamol....eggs and milk.
I would have had a soft boiled egg with soldiers as a Mother's Day breakfast(it would have been cooked by me)....except there were no eggs anywhere.

I am sure that much of what has been bought will perish before it can be used....you cannot freeze everything....and selfish people mean that those who need the stuff most are least likely to get it.

I do not know why some enterprising supermarket does not take a large wagon full of groceries and set up on the hospital car park.....sell stuff on site exclusively to NHS workers.
We need to look after those who are prepared to put themselves in danger to look after us.

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Nothing surprises me.
There should have been someone on the door asking for NHS ID badges.....and sending everyone else packing.(first taking pictures of the selfish people and circulating it to all other stores)

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I'm surprised that none have done it either.

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I am too...it would be huge kudos to who ever does do it.
Worth far more than any TV adverts.

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below is a copy of an e-mail I have sent to the CEO of tesco.
I hope it gets to him and that perhaps he can act on it.



Dear Mr Lewis,
These are difficult times for everyone.
But for NHS staff they are doubly difficult.
We should be looking after those who are on the front line looking after us in our hour of need.
Can I run an idea past you?
What I am going to suggest would hit the front of every newspaper...and would find favour with the general public too.

I am really very surprised that no supermarket has come up with the idea of taking the groceries to the nurses and hospital staff.
Surely it would not be too difficult to take a large lorry to all the hospitals....sell the stuff that staff might need...(especially the staples), on the premises where the staff are...and think of the kudos that would gain for whichever supermarket tried to do this.
Would there be any better advert for a supermarket that really cares about getting food and supplies to NHS staff
It would ensure that supplies got to the people who we are relying on.
I hope this gets to you and not to your spam file.
I will be e-mailing the CEO's of other supermarkets to run this idea past them too...so please consider my suggestion.
With Best Regards(stay safe)
Margaret Pilkington SRN retired

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I have also sent the same e-mail to Roger Burnley the CEO of ASda
and Mike Coupe the CEO of Sainsburys has got it too

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Well you know when it's serious when McDonalds announce it is now closing all their restaurants by 7pm tomorrow.....

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There was no dining in from thursday last week, but you could still go in and get a take away.
It is not a place i go to....I know the adverts say it is all good stuff but somehow it doesn't feel like it to me.

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Well done, excellent idea......

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Thank you Ryewolf...I know just how soul destroying it must be to find shelves empty when you have pulled your tripes out looking after very sick people.
I have been there...it is little enough and it may do nothing at all to help.

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Yes, but now it's a full closure, no going in and no drive thru. I only usually get a coffee or tea when I'm out with my camera...

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Oh dear...there are going to be some very disappointed young folk on the planet.

I suppose the drinks are OK...and cheaper than lots of places.

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Oh Dear! End of the world for some (not me). The upside is the end of the queue that snakes back through their carpark onto the main road and delays access to my usual supermarket and all points west. Yippee!:)

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On the plus side they might lose some weight....

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I really doubt that anyone will lose weight in this crisis....unless there is food rationing that is. Or people get too sick to be able to eat.

What do bored people do?
Bored people who are not working, not exercising, not walking anywhere??

They graze, they sit watching mind numbing puerile to programs, they won't be eating apples or sticks of celery....they will eat crisps, biscuits, toffees.

Many folk do not know how to cook from scratch so will be buying in deep fried chicken from takeaways, pizza's....you know all that healthy food.

I have plans to make soup using the bones of the chicken.....and a few veggies.
I will cook my own pies....with pastry I have made myself.
I will not be sitting watching TV.....I will be crafting.....ok, that might mean sitting, but both hands and brain will be so busy that I 'forget' to eat.....and you cannot eat biscuits with your hands full of PVA glue.

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I may have to purchase a new bottle opener with the number of bottles of Hobgoblin that I anticipate opening over my enforced incarceration,(if there is any left on the shelves that is).
Your's, stay happy, Hic, Hic. Taddy, The Lancahire Ludite

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Thank you for taking the time to write to Dave.
We have received your email and will be in touch soon.
Our office hours are 8am-8pm on Monday to Friday, 9am-5pm on Saturday, closed on Sunday.

Group Chief Executive’s Office.

the above is a reply I have had from Tesco...so it did not go into the spam file.
Watch this space.

A shopping update.
Aldi had much more stuff on the shelves this morning, though no paracetamol, babies nappies were in short supply...and no kitty litter. beer shelves had been raided
Lidli was well stocked with fruit and vegiies, bakery was closed...plentiful supply of meat cheese, milk and dairy.

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i was in Lidl earlier and cheesewas very scarce, could not get the cheese i wanted.tried B@M they had none at all.

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sorry cashy..it was Aldi where we got cheese...though I am sure there was some at Lidl, but the packs were just to big for two of us.

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i got a small pack at lidl, not the sort i wanted but the price wasnt that small.

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Update on my last post, I have just discovered an unopened bottle of "Old Pulteney" 12 year old Malt Whisky left over from Christmas,so not everything is looking as bleak as I thought.
It should keep me happy for a day? or two.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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And it will kill any viruses that you might be incubating...so no half measures Taddy!

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Poundland had a few packs of Horlicks Farm Mature Cheddar at a quid.
fultons had a supply of different cheeses but they were larger packs so a bit more money(OK...Pay more, get more)

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all you,ll need with all this cheese you are buying is stocking up on eggs and rice and you,ll be able to sell your toilet rolls on to those who would need it.

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This is a further response I have had from Tesco...the only supermarket that has responded.

Dear Margaret

Thank you for contacting our Chief Executive.

We find ourselves in an unprecedented situation, where we need to react very quickly to changes in circumstances for our staff and our customers. We recognise that some situations are far from ideal, but we are listening to our customers and government announcements to meet as many of our customers’ needs as possible in these challenging times.

We always want to help support our NHS heroes who helping us all at these difficult times and we are always wanting to show them our appreciation. Thank you for your suggestion whilst the current situation is happening and I have put this forward, on your behalf, to the business partners.

Thanks for your understanding and feedback.

Kind regards,

Paul Callan

Customer Service Specialist
On behalf of the Chief Executive’s Office
Tel: 0800 072 6685

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COVID is scary, but if we continue to be healthy and clean ourselves always then we can combat this together.

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I'd like to respectfully (or disrespectfully, whichever way you look at it) offer a suggestion to all of you who are in a forced lockdown, and maybe want something to do. Why not get your fingers a-tapping and write a blog for Accyweb - or post a few controversial subjects that we can debate. Just a suggestion.

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Yes...that would be good.
Tell us how you are managing.
Give us any hints and tips....especially those that would help us stop contemplating doing bodily harm to our other half and their irritating ways(we all have them).
I am going to try and do a daily blog....so there you go....that gives you the opportunity to either read it or avoid it.
What I would like to say is....stay safe, but live cheerful, not fearful.

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whats occured to me after hearing Prince Charles has Corona Virus, then his family and the staff must have also been tested? therefore how is this so? when MANY Healthcare workers have not been? if thats not Privaledge, i dont know what is?

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Just found out the Accrington Santander bank has temporarily closed, Blackburn is still open but to reduced hours 10am - 14:00 Mon-Fri but closed on Sat

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Cashy, much has been made of this, but there is nothing to say that he did not pay to have this done privately.
The Royals are not known for using the NHS...people have ASSUMED that he has had this done on the NHS, but we do NOT know for sure.


Both the Queen and Prince Philip are elderly and as such are at risk from this virus, so it is sensible that he is tested so that he does not pass the virus on to either of them.


As far as testing...well everyone should be tested so that the extent of the virus can be more accurately determined.
All NHS labs have been geared up to do nothing only coronavirus testing in the coming weeks.
The current management is like trying to determine where a fire is by smelling the smoke.

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The Government stopped testing after the first phase of its plan to fight the virus. Why ? The mayor of Bergamo , which is said to be two
weeks ahead of us, has said we should have been testing, The World Health Organisation is saying 'Test,Test,Test'.
Only now, after a week to ten days has the Government said it will 'ramp up' the frequency of testing to 10,000 and then 25,000 but this
week will only manage around 7,000.

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Those tests are per day but in UK you only get it if you are so sick that you have to go to hospital. Germany is testing those with symptoms who don't necessarily have to go to hospital.

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thought the test was for those who have had the virus to enable em to get back to work as the thought is if you have had it you will not get it again.

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Confusion abounds. There are two tests. One to determine if you have the virus presently, which is the one I was referring to above.
The other test is to see if you've already had the disease and (supposedly, not yet proven) therefore have the antibodies. The Government has 3.5 million of these with more to come but how they will disperse these among the population is anyone's guess.

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Testing should have been the first priority.
The figures regarding this disease are so inaccurate as to be unreliable.
Even the quoted death figures are not to be relied on as many of those who have died have had other conditions which hastened their demise.
The only deaths that truly can be attributed to the virus are those who were young and had no underlying health issues.

Protecting people means knowing who has the virus and that cannot be known without testing.
If someone tests positive then they should be completely isolated....not this self isolation thing.
People do NOT know how to effectively self isolate.

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It matters little whether deaths can be 'truly' attributed to the virus. If your death is being hastened by the virus then there's no difference.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51943612

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But it matters in the reporting of the virus situation....why?

Well because it is part of the media whipping up fear and panic in the population.
We have to maintain some perspective on the situation and the media are particularly unhelpful in this.
They catastrophise everything, they use dramatic and sensationalist language in their reporting.
Panic is detrimental to a balanced approach. It is unhelpful because it has created a situation of panic in the general population....something which should have been avoided.

I am NOT saying that this is not a serious situation, but that it is something we need to take sensible precautions against.

Every year during the flu season I take the same precautions I am using now.
I avoid crowded places, I take good rest, I eat well,I take vitamins....none of this will guarantee that I will NOT get the flu.....but I owe it to myself to do these things.

Every year people die from the winter flu....last year 1300 people lost their lives from flu....did it make the news?
No....because it was not a worldwide event.

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Blimey, you don't half love a conspiracy theory, don't you, Margaret? I don't see the media whipping up fear in the population. Certainly not round here. Most people seem to be taking events in their stride and behaving well. Sure there are always a few people whose personality would scare Freddy Krueger (Trump for one) but most folk are giving, sharing, waving and so on.
The figures on the Public Health England website don't distinguish between young, old or the truly attributal. They're just there in black and white. That's not sensationalising. A news report adding that someone who's died had underlying health problems is not either. I saw something the other day that, of the deaths so far, 70% were men and 30% women. Nobody has jumped on that so far, let's see.

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I was not talking about the way Public Health England report on anything and the only things that are black and white are the newspapers.
If you cannot see the sensationalising of this then all I can say is you aren't looking.

If you think that that is me loving a conspiracy theory, then you are reading it all wrong.

You say that most people are taking events in their stride and behaving...would these be the same people who have stripped the supermarket shelves of staple foods...or the ones who have abused ASDA and tesco staff for trying to ensure that there is stuff for everyone or maybe it was the woman coming out of HOME BARGAINS with 14 nine roll packs ot toilet rolls.
This is what you consider to be 'behaving well'
What do you think created the panic buying?
Might it have been the way the media were reporting the issues?
You surely cannot deny that there has been a wave of panic buying can you?

I have also seen those statistics about the difference between the genders, but I am not getting what the point is regarding this, that you are trying to make.


If you look at the language in how the media(and I include the BBC in this) the media are whipping up fear and panic. You cannot pick up a newspaper or turn on your TV without reading or seeing reports full of hyperbole regarding the virus.
But if you cannot see it then that is OK..it won't be worrying you will it?

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Reamer, maybe you would enlighten me as to which bit of my post you considered to be a 'conspiracy theory'.

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Ok, I agree, maybe in the first weeks of March some people began to act a bit stupid. I did imply this
in my post by citing the Freddy Krueger lot, but the last couple of times I've been out either to shop or for exercise,
I haven't seen anyone stripping shelves, abusing staff or bulk buying. I can only relate what I see. You're describing those events as something ongoing as though its mass hysteria. I don't see it now.

'What do you think created the panic buying?' you ask. Well I think you answered your own question when you said this

'Every year people die from the winter flu....last year 1300 people lost their lives from flu....did it make the news?
No....because it was not a worldwide event.'

People accept the risk with flu because, as you say, its no longer a worldwide event. There's a vaccine and everybody takes it for granted that if you're reasonably fit as you get older, you'll make a do. This is different. It's a world health epidemic. A new disease with no known antidote and you ask why people panic. It's down to human nature and not specifically press coverage.

I haven't bought newspapers in many a year so the media is easy to deal with. Don't buy it or switch it off.
'You cannot pick up a newspaper or turn on your TV without reading or seeing reports full of hyperbole regarding the virus.' you say, so you must be reading and watching it all to know that. Finally no, I won't be worrying about what you've posted until it becomes fact.
Finally again, the Conspiracy theory comment was a lousy attempt to lighten the mood a little. Stay safe

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Thank you for your response.
I do appreciate you taking time to do that.
As far as having answered the question....that was not the answer that I felt would be given.
Yes, it is human nature when they think they are in danger.
The population have been schooled to think they are in danger by the fear and panic created by the media.
That you do not buy papers, does not protect you from the media coverage....it seems current that ALL TV shows are making some comment on it and Professor Whitty pops up between programs....so unless you go and live in a cave hearing about is inevitable.
I do not watch much TV and cannot recall when I last watched a news broadcast.(my husband is so spooked by them that he turns out them off).

I am relating things I have seen.
I saw a woman abuse a till operator in ASDA, to,the point where security was called to deal with the issue ..and that was just last week.
The toilet roll thing too...that was a personal experience.

As you know, there is no cure for the common cold....and the flu vaccine depends on the virus that was prevalent more than a year ago and the last vaccine had an efficacy score of only 30%.

You are right about it being a new version of a disease, but you cannot spout statistics and expect them to be relevant if you really do not know the size of the problem.
We don't know the size of the problem because the population are not being tested.
There are probably very many more people who have had this virus and do not know they have had it because their symptoms have been mild enough to cause them no difficulty.

Again, this is NOT to say that we can be complacent, but there does need to be a sense of perspective.

If you are going to get this, you could stay in your home, not move out of your house and STILL get it...delivered on your gas bill envelope that someone with the disease has coughed on, breathed over or just touched.

Live cheerful, not fearful....and of course stay safe.

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The very good news is that Front line NHS staff are going to be tested.
The other thing that really needs to be happening and the sooner the better.....is that NHS staff should be required to change out of their uniforms before they leave the hospital.
They should not be going home in their uniforms as these may be contaminated.
The hospital laundry should be laundering the clothes worn by frontline staff.

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only this week there has been 1 scumbag in padiham, coughing and spitting at the police. so some people are still acting stupid. also i think this £60 fine is nowhere near enough to put scummies off, they will probably think i can live with that, in the unlikely event i am caught. the world is too ruddy soft these days,in my view.

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So the media are not catastrophising the situation.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-cross-warning

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Does the prospect of riots instil panic and fear?
Does it make people consider civil disobedience at a time when the police numbers may be low because of self isolation of officers?
There are many more stories in the media which are calculated to create fear and anxiety.
The currency of control is fear....now Reamer, there you have your conspiracy theory.

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anyone who reckons the Media are not putting the fear of god into many people has "Rocks in their head" as far as i'm concerned.the are making a very serious situation far worse,

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I have to agree with what yourself and many other people are saying, yes this virus is very, very, serious, people are falling ill and dying all over the world.

I am in no way attempting to make light of the matter (but),at the end of the day, when the virus is finally defeated, the millionairs of today will be the Billionairs of tomorrow because they will be the only people with enough cash to purchase shares at an historic low price; when the epidemic is over they will be laughing or coughing all the way to the bank.
But, Whatever, stay happy, Your's Taddy the Luddite.

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Taddy you are right.
But this has been blown out of all persepctive by the media.
Of course it is serious, because no-one really knows how this virus will change...or what it will do to the people who have got it or had it.

I know that I keep on saying this, but there are 60.7 million people live in this country.
There are just over 17 thousand people who have the confirmed virus(many more may have it/have had it and not noticed) one thousand and nineteen people have died.
What is this in percentage terms per capita.....it is a very small percentage.(I could work it out, but I failed maths miserably at school)

There is no cure...but then there is no cure for the common cold or for the flu...and even vaccination for the flu is sometimes hit and miss because viruses mutate...they change so that they can continue to inhabit humans.
That there is no cure does not mean that if you get this you will die from it...you might, but then again you might not

NO I am not saying that we should not take precautions or that we should be cavalier in our attitudes to the infection, but what I AM saying is that we need to get a grip....stay calm and not have fear instilled in us by the dramatic sensationalist language that the media are using.
Use your common sense...keep your sense of humour and a sense of proportion about this crisis.

Now I'll await the flying bricks.

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The percentages of the U.K. population are 0.028% for those confirmed and 0.0017% for deaths.

On the latter, and I’m no statistician, but am I right in interpreting the attached figures from Public Health England?
Table 1 appears to suggest that, in the last week, there were no ‘excess deaths’ over and above the number that would usually be expected.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...020_report.pdf