Hanging

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Eric

Canadians have guns .... lots of them ... I have six. But we don't generally drive around shooting other Canadians. If I felt like it, and had the cash to waste, I could go to the local gun store and buy as many guns as I wanted. All I need is my Firearms Aquisition Certificate. Hand guns and assault rifles, no. But it doesn't take much to cut down a shotgun, or to mickey mouse a semi-automatic so that it fires on full. The difference between the murder rates in Canada and the US can't be explained merely by citing the easier acces to firearms in the US. Detroit, just across the border from Windsor, ON, has more murders than the whole of Canada. Windsor's murder rate is around zero.

Fair point, then all canadians i ever met, aint got a John Wayne mentality, my thoughts having visited quite a few states- is half of em still think its the wild west.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by cashman

Fair point, then all canadians i ever met, aint got a John Wayne mentality, my thoughts having visited quite a few states- is half of em still think its the wild west.

Know what you mean ... particularly south of the Mason-Dixon line, and in Texas and Oklahoma. Not to mention the no-go areas in most of their major cities. Weird bunch south of '49.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Eric

Not to mention the no-go areas in most of their major cities. Weird bunch south of '49.

Funny that, I've bar-crawled in Harlem, walked round southside Chicago, wandered through south Memphis and not even felt slightly threatened. Maybe they could tell I was from Accy!

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Funny that, I've bar-crawled in Harlem, walked round southside Chicago, wandered through south Memphis and not even felt slightly threatened. Maybe they could tell I was from Accy!

They probably realized that you were a Stanley supporter, and decided to give you a break.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Funny that, I've bar-crawled in Harlem, walked round southside Chicago, wandered through south Memphis and not even felt slightly threatened. Maybe they could tell I was from Accy!

Oh i never felt threatened n been in some pretty unusual places out yon, got the opinion from some of the conversations i had.

[Michael1954]

I used to work in Salford, and that could be a bit rough, especially the walk from Salford Crescent railway station to my place of work. You had to walk under an underpass, and on a couple of occasions I was spat on by gangs hanging about.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cashman

Oh i never felt threatened n been in some pretty unusual places out yon, got the opinion from some of the conversations i had.

I reckon the real nutters out there are the right-wing Christian fundamentalists...and you don't find many of them in Harlem.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I reckon the real nutters out there are the right-wing Christian fundamentalists...and you don't find many of them in Harlem.

And they're armed too

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Somehow, I don't think "sorry, s..t happens" would cut it. Here's a few more:
Canada's wrongful convictions - Canada - CBC News

And to those, like Jaysay, who admire the American justice system: why don't capital punishment and heavy jail sentences seem to be working If they did work, the US wouldn't be the crime capital of the "civilized" world.

America's a very big country Eric, home to many different races and cultures, but my point with the American system, if you kill somebody in cold blood there is no second chance, its either the needle, the chair or the gas chamber, failing that life without the chance of parole, in good old Britain murderers can get 30 years and be back on the streets before they're 50, victims don't get that chance

[maxthecollie]

with DNA today and it can be proved without a shadow of doubt murderers should be killed then tax payers money would not be wasted feeding and looking after them in prison

[jaysay]

Ya what does it cost to keep Huntley in prison every year, around a million quid and rising, can think of better ways to spend that money

[Michael1954]

Originally Posted by Michael1954

I used to work in Salford, and that could be a bit rough, especially the walk from Salford Crescent railway station to my place of work. You had to walk under an underpass, and on a couple of occasions I was spat on by gangs hanging about.

I forgot to add that I would happily string this lot up!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Michael1954

I forgot to add that I would happily string this lot up!

You'd have the RSPCA after you Michael, cruelty to animals

[maxthecollie]

I could spend a million quid a lot better ways

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

America's a very big country Eric, home to many different races and cultures, but my point with the American system, if you kill somebody in cold blood there is no second chance, its either the needle, the chair or the gas chamber, failing that life without the chance of parole, in good old Britain murderers can get 30 years and be back on the streets before they're 50, victims don't get that chance

Canada's a very big country, home to many different races and cultures. We don't have the death penalty. And even (notice I began this sentence with a conjunction) without the death penalty, our murder rate is going down. In fact, the rates for all types of crime are on the way down. Point is though, if anyone could demonstrate to me ... logically, statistically, whatever -ally, that capital pusnishment is a deterrent to murder, I would be all in favour of it. But as far as I can see, it doesn't work as a deterrent. I know folks who are in favout of it for the wrong reasons: probably the decendants of those who did their knitting by the guillotine, or who got their jollies at Tyburn. But, as a deterrent to murder, it just doesn't work. And however many jerks, assholes, losers, etc. are hanged, fried, or shot, it will never work.