Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Bear in mind that Clear are a a pressure group working to reform the law.
For the other side,

Cannabis: key facts from the Royal College of Psychiatrists

For many of us, cannabis is a way to relax – 2 million people in the UK smoke it and half of all 16 to 29-year-olds have tried it. But research suggests that it can cause problems in some vulnerable people.

… How does cannabis work?

When smoked, cannabis from the lungs goes into the blood and is carried to every part of the body. Several chemicals in cannabis bind to receptors in areas of the brain that deal with pleasure, memory, thought, concentration and the awareness of time. There are two main kinds of chemical involved:
a group called the cannabinoids, which seem to give you the more pleasant effects – feeling relaxed, happy, sleepy, with colours appearing more vivid and music sounding better
THC, which seems to produce hallucinations, anxiety and paranoia.
These feelings don’t usually last long – although as the drug can stay in the system for some weeks, subtle effects can last a few days. Long-term use can make you depressed and less motivated.

… What is the risk to mental health?

Depression
1600 Australian children aged 14 to 15 years were studied for 7 years; the ones who used cannabis every day were five times more likely to become depressed and anxious by the end of the study.
Schizophrenia
If you start smoking cannabis before the age of 15 years, you are four times more likely to develop a psychotic illness. The more cannabis you use, the more likely you are to develop psychosis. It isn’t clear why cannabis use in adolescence seems to have such an effect, but it may be because the brain is still developing.

… Is there such a thing as ‘cannabis psychosis’?

Some people seem to get a short period of psychosis that is brought on by cannabis but which
stops soon after the cannabis is stopped.

… If it’s so dangerous, why don’t more of my friends get unwell?

Probably because most people don’t use cannabis before they are 15 and don’t go on smoking large amounts. Psychotic illness is quite unusual anyway – only about 1 in 200 people have it at any given time. Most of us probably don’t know that many people, so even if cannabis does increase the risk, you aren’t likely to notice an ‘epidemic’ among the people you know.

… What about other effects?

Education
The connection isn’t clear, but regular cannabis use does seem to affect how you do at school or college.

Employment
Cannabis users are more likely to leave work without permission, spend work time on personal matters or daydream. Regular users report that it has interfered with their work and social life.
Driving
A recent study in France showed that cannabis users are more than twice as likely to be the cause of a fatal crash than to be one of the victims.

… Is cannabis addictive?

Cannabis has some of the features of addictive drugs – a regular user has to take more and more to get the same effect (tolerance) and can get withdrawal symptoms.
Three out of four long-term users get cravings, half become irritable and seven out of ten switch to tobacco to try to stay off cannabis. Many find that they spend much of their life seeking, buying and using it. It is probably about as hard to stop as tobacco.

This article seems to focus on 14 - 15 year olds! Well in my world Cannabis would still be illegal for kids and you'd have to be 18 to legally smoke it, it would be an offence to sell it to people under 18, just like it is with alcohol.

It also talks about THC - but ignores CBD - in research the two chemicals have proven to balance each other out. Cannabidiol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia CBD stops psychotic effects that cannabis can induce. Fact is in natural grown cannabis these chemicals are in balance - but in SKUNK (grown using intensive methods - which is run by gangs) THC levels are much higher and this is what causes problems. Therefore it is prohibition that is creating this situation in which people are having to buy SKUNK = DAMAGING THEIR HEALTH!

Also there should be effective balanced DRUGS EDUCATION at schools. Sign the petition backed by the Amy Winehouse Foundation here
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/30280

Responsible department: Office of the Leader of the House of Commons


Wide consumption of 'legal highs' and club drugs place young people at risk of long term harm and even death. These substances are often regarded as safe because many are legal. However, they are often a combination of Class B drugs and toxic chemicals. There is a lack of awareness and education, not helped by the fact that drugs education is not currently on the National Curriculum. We therefore petition to urgently get effective drugs education on the National Curriculum in Schools throughout the UK, with particular attention to the implementation of proven programmes like Climate and Preventure which have been shown to significantly reduce the use of drugs, alcohol and legal highs.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Well said-I'm fed up too!!

Well don't come back then!

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

If you google 'Arguments against legalising drugs' there are just as many websites to support the argument against as there are in favour - which just goes to show that you can find anything to support whatever argument you need to online.

Amy Winehouse Foundation petition for more education on illegal drugs.

AWF Joins With Angelus As Petition Launches To Change Drug Education In UK | Amy Winehouse Foundation

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Amy Winehouse Foundation petition for more education on illegal drugs.

Interesting you raise Amy Winehouse, kestrelx. Didn't she die because she drank one small and two large bottles of vodka?
Sort of proves your point, doesn't it?
Well, perhaps not.
I voted 'no' on the other thread.

[Wrighty]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Interesting you raise Amy Winehouse, kestrelx. Didn't she die because she drank one small and two large bottles of vodka?
Sort of proves your point, doesn't it?
Well, perhaps not.
I voted 'no' on the other thread.

She was a dug addict & abused her body ... Self inflicted

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

She was a dug addict & abused her body ... Self inflicted

Tabloids aside - apparently she was clean of drugs for about 2 years before her death and what killed her was alcohol not drugs, which she was free of for at least 2 years.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Of course if you really really need drugs:

Bad taste video clip from a show I found riddled with cliches!

Again Crack addiction is nothing to do with cannabis - there is no link - crack addicts want crack not cannabis!

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Bad taste video clip from a show I found riddled with cliches!

oh I don't know, I found it quite refreshing comedy, just for that however:


And

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

I don't think you have shot anyone down with your little one liners.


.

I have to keep them to one liners so that brain addled fools can understand them

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Tabloids aside - apparently she was clean of drugs for about 2 years before her death and what killed her was alcohol not drugs, which she was free of for at least 2 years.

You can't undo the damage illegal substances do to the brain, no matter how long your of the stuff.

[tommiasfc]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I have to keep them to one liners so that brain addled fools can understand them

I thought it was all you could type before it was time to pop another pill

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by tommiasfc

I thought it was all you could type before it was time to pop another pill

You are out of order you cretin

[Boeing Guy]

I would not get stressed Jay, you cannot reason with those who have Nelson Mandela as their Main Dealer

[tommiasfc]

Originally Posted by jaysay

You are out of order you cretin

i found this out of order

Originally Posted by jaysay

I have to keep them to one liners so that brain addled fools can understand them

Your being so condescending to people who arnt hard drug users when you wernt commenting it was turning into a decent disscusion with people asking questions and getting answers no name calling but as soon as the accy web mafia come back on its all name calling and not giving peoples opinions a thought because they are full of drugs.

You are a cretin

You were named by someone i work with when asked if i use accy web i said 'yes but theres some people on there if you dont agree with them you just get called and bullied if they did that in real life i bet they would be ashamed of themselves' and my colleague said was and i quote 'yes like that jaysay'

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

I would not get stressed Jay, you cannot reason with those who have Nelson Mandela as their Main Dealer

Na BG prats like that don't stress me out, it just shows what infantile morons they are, you really have to feel sorry for somebody who stoups so low