Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I'm impressed that your little friends in Hull know of Councillor Jones.

It's a small world.;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Could I request using the FOI act how much spending money Andrew got during the years 1996-1999 because I'm researching whether spoilt children become Conseratives.:rolleyes::)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I'm equally impressed that you appear to know who said what and where they're located. ;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

What ward does councillor Jones come under i dont even know im in Peelpark ward never see a councillor i wouldnt even have heard of him if i hadnt been on here today.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You could have waited a couple of days before telling us. That was my guess anyway but you could have left them moaning about why for a couple of days at least. :D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

It's a gift.;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Just think, if you hadn't had to re-sit your A-levels, you'd have been in your final year by now, and would hopefully have been too busy to request anything, except some more Pro-Plus.

:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Would you have gone to any of his meetings even if you knew he was in Peel Ward...doubt it.

Considering your political connections I would have thought you would have made it your business to know.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Ignorance is bliss - maybe that is why you are so very amused:rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

My mother having political connections? Do tell! :D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I think you have probably just given the game away that your not Andrews mum :rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I think she must be - since he sent me a rather irate PM

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Not you then? :D

Sure if mine were into politics, I would be wanting to know everything about it, especially the ward I lived in?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Since Andrew's told me in the past that you were traditionally a Labour supporter, yet you helped Andrew canvas for the Conservatives in the last local elections, I find that very hard to believe.

Accy Web is rather good at sniffing out porkies, which I'm sure you'll soon cotton on to.;)

Having a motor mouth mummy posting on here might be rather fun.

I wonder what else will be forthcoming?:rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Agreed, she's not his mum, PROBABLY some snotty toryboy from uni.:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If it is a clever wind up.........Its working. :rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I'm afraid if a moderator has been complicit in defrauding the good people of Accy Web, then a certain someone can't even see the moral high ground he claims to preach from.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If it is his mum, she is showing her ignorance. Even your average voter knows his/her ward councillor....

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If it is - heaven forbid that mods can mutate into trolls:eek:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I hope his mother also thinks so, after her good name's been besmirched on here for all to see, with the help of her son.

I happen to know Andrew's mum's aunt very well, and I think they'll all be horrified.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I presume you do vote at local elections, because if you do, you would have seen Graham's name clearly displayed on your ballot paper (as the Labour Party candidate) at the HBC election on May 1st 2008. Thats if you do live in Peel Ward (as Andrew has claimed in the past to live in Barnfield ward)

Do you not read Accrington Observer either because Graham is often featured in their as well.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I dont know the local councillors as i only vote in a general election only interested in that not local although i did help Andrew canvas in the summer and now remember a name Tony Dobson i dont know were your coming from stateing a motor mouth mummy im a mum and a person too at the end of the day and find this interesting may be i will learn something my connections arnt politcal but similar. I did go to a meeting once with Andrew listened but didnt really take notice of who was who And yes i am a labour voter but wont be in the next election.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I'm sure a 'moderator' will be along soon to remove all trace of any besmirching :rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Cheers garinda for your recent comment

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

(Garinda phones his mother just to double check she has no intention of ever joining Accy Web.)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Well if Turkishdelight is your mother (as the posts claim) the political connection is being related to you.

But I rather think it is one of your friends engaging in 'puerile' games.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I take it back. I said what I did when I thought you were a pal of Andrew's pretending to be his mum. I can see that isn't the case, and I'm sorry. I know you are a woman of honesty and integrity.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Maybe you should take more interest due to your son's political path.

What is your reason for not voting Labour next time by the way?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Wouldn't be the first time a Labour councillor was wrong in this thread. :rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

why?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

That is what we were asking Andrew and he took soooooooooo very long to answer

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

just wondering..

A. Coz son is a Tory
B. Coz Graham has dared to air these unnecessary underhand goings on and you don't like it.
C. the Tories have changed your opinion as a life long Labour supporter..If so would love to know what the reason is
D. Any other reason

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Thanks as you do they would know also what kind of person i am and for all who doubt i am indeed Andrews mum didnt want to identify myself because i syrely knew i would get a slagging off for but Andrew as usual believes in honesty and wanted me to be truthful.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

My Mother, sadly no longer with us, loved a good wind up and would have joined in.

Sorry that this thread seems to be deteriating into a 'We hate Andrew' format and is leaving the way open to one or two members who in their wisdom, choose to join the debate when they think the case is won with smart arsed comments that clearly do not add to what has been a very informative and entertaining thread.
Troll. needle in the eyes and spoilt children come to mind.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Given that I'm one of the ones you are referring to ( as usual :rolleyes: ), lets look at your first informative post in this thread

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

There isn't one.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Question one nothing to do with my son being a tory more like the state of the country the majority of people i know have changed their vote.It dosent really matter that much to me what Graham airs i guess it was his opinion just he got it wrong i dont know him he could be a nice person who knows.QUESTION 3 THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

State of the country...
That's rich from someone who doesn't even know who her ward councillor is!

Maybe if people took more interest in their local politics, went to meetings etc, this would rebound on the state of the country as a whole......

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

There is'nt one what?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I take every interest in my sons education but not in his own political studies do not challenge me on this subject as you dont know me.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Sorry i dont agree.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You dont need to go to meetings to see what is happening to the country it needs a general election to put this country back on its feet.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

But it is OK to defend him against Graham Jones? On what grounds then?

If you didn't want challenging, you shouldn't have out your two penneth in. You obviously can't add anything politically so why bother?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

How long have you got? :rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You need to go to find out what is happening in your area! No point whingeing about not seeing your councillor, you will have had the same info as everyone else. Non voters are the reason we have the council we have now. And it will never change unless people get off their backsides and do something about it.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Can you explain the apathy? :confused:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Go on Roy, seeing as you are the font of all knowledge...go ahead.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Maybe you should be asking Andrew's mum that question, seeing as she is an apathetic constituent?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

For my part, I am still on a learning curve and still listen to knowlegable and qualified people who are up on their subject. :)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

On the grounds that he is misleading people in the first thread post? Not for the first time I add. :D She doesn't need to know who her councillor is to see that.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

okay i feel for some reason your trying to have a go at me what harm have i caused you Andrew is more than capable of defending himself if need be and so am i at the end of the day im a good mum and also an individual person who has a right to speak and have an opinion even if im not that into local politics im too busy working to go to meetings in the evenings maybe if i get the chance i will try to attend one. i am behind my son 100per cent in his education and always have been we all have are own field of expertise and unfortunately mine is not politics although i could become interested. forgive me if im wrong but you appear to feel bitter towards me i dont understand.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I sense a hint of sarcasm there. :confused:

As I said maybe you should be asking our resident apathetic constituent? Why haven't you?


I believe this thread is for all to contribute to if they so wish, even if they may not be fay to the goings on of the political arena. Most people are viewing it as voters, (most of us) members of the general public who want an input.

You seem to have nothing to add to it.

Maybe she is not concerned about the terrible problems in the borough that are being ignored by the current controlling group on Hyndburn borough council, or the money that is being spent in certain areas, just to secure votes. She probably think the money wasted on the failed website is ok. Also the officer's time and the money wasted on 'hare brained' schemes, when they should have been trying to attract new investment into the borough.

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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

There was me thinking Labour councillors could not stoop any lower! Perhaps the real problem is that even if people wanted somebody else in charge, there's nobody else capable. Better the devil you know.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Don't think anyone feels bitter towards you.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Come on councillor, thats your job?

Whilst I appreciate that you are defending Andrew, and no one is suggesting you are a bad person, but by posting in this thread you have to be prepared to stand your corner. A




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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Come on andrew, it's not just the councillors, it's the general public, the readers on Accyweb, democracy and all that!

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

glad to see you eventually answered my question. the reason i asked is simple, YES you are perfectly entitled to ask fer the information, but to quote you,the devil is in the detail, but by not answering, people being people are likely to form their own conclusion, that IMHO would not do you any good at all, i was begining to think ya were to dumb to see it. glad ya aint.;) ya still got a lot to learn about real life, hope ya get yer degree.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

okay cheers for that

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Exactly

And if you declare you are an apathetic constituent, then you deserve all the flack coming! Especially when you complain.

Yes I do agree it's my job. But it is very difficult fighting for what you beleive is right when you are a position where you have both hands tied behind your back (metaphorically of course). Especially when you are opposing someone who twists what is said and is economical with the truth at meetings and in print.
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Cheers for that comment i wasnt defending Andrew just agreeing with him this councillor got it wrong and i obviously knew that but hey im not having a go at him either i wont jugde him i dont know him., i was simply stateing a fact.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

doubt very much if anyones bitter to ya toryboys mum, ya just jumped in wi both feet to a very spicey thread.:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Did someone mention Lord M? What comes around goes around I am afraid.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Like when Labour mislead and twist saying the council tax is the most expensive? Like when they try and kick up a fuss on here for members of the public requesting legitimate information?

All the same. No wonder people are so apathetic. :rolleyes: They really do not have an alternative if they wanted to vote for one.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Dont think so Cashy....your Mum would have done the same had she been computer literate?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

i know that well good job i dont take it too much to heart its interesting though.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I will probably get some comments for this but honestly i havent come across any labour supporters im surprised there are still out there really i am and i used to be one every one i know has changed there vote from labour to tory and believe me i know a lot of people

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

ya gotta be kidding. ya got no idea what the score was there mate.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Please could someone explain to me why they would vote labour i cant understand now in this day and age.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

i come across many that aint gonna vote Full Stop.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Sorry C. no offence intended :)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

none taken.:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Ouch.......She's not as daft as I thought she was :D go for the goolies MUM

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Well theres those as well i have come across them but no labour voters

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

perhaps ya need to get about a bit more, have come across the usual suspects both lab/tory as well.:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

hi im sure there must be some knocking around goodnight :)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Talking about amused Margaret as an aside, I dont take much to your new avatar......I prefered Nora.

YouTube - Kathy Staff - 1984 This Is Your Life - Part 1of 2 Have a look at this and revert to the original...them stockings.....wow.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I can tell you why I vote Labour - I remember the damage that apology for a 'woman' Maggie Thatcher (the milk snatcher) did to the ordinary working man and woman of this country. How she said 'there is no such thing society' and set out to try and break the spirit of hard working people, consigning so many to the scrap heap. Selling off all the utility companies, the railways, British Telecom, closing all the coal mines (when we had 600 years of coal left in them). Attempting to break the trade unions, decimating our industries, ending apprenticeships and brining in YTS (slave labour for 16 and 17 year olds. who were then consigned to the scrapheap, because there was a fresh supply of 16 year olds to fill their places). Allowing building societies to become banks, and loosening the financial control on them. Unfortunately we will have to live with the consequences of her incompetence for years to come.

Cameron is in just the same mould - last year he questioned why anyone would live in the North (maybe he would like us all to commit hari-kari). Over the past few years we have had millions of pounds of LABOUR government money, ploughed into Hyndburn for regeneration via Elevate, in 2009/10 there will be another £8.3 million pound to help to regenerate West Accrington. Cameron has said he will withdraw this funding - leaving East Lancashire to its fate (after all he doesn't think anyone should live in the North). As well as the regeneration money, there is money from LEGI and I am sure Graham will tell you all the other LABOUR government money that we receive in Hyndburn.

I am sure that the Tories would not be coping any better with the current economic crisis - they would probably be making sure the rich were looked after but it would be 'devil take the hindmost', after all the ordinary working person is expendable.

Are these enough reasons to let you know why I am proud to be a member of the Labour Party and a priveleged to be a member of the Labour Group on Hyndburn Borough Council.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Talking about amused Margaret as an aside, I dont take much to your new avatar......I prefered Nora.

I will change back if you use this one

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Good god woman....the Labour party have been in contol for eleven years at national level.
Maggie has been done and dusted.
If the manufacturing industries were worth propping up by government funding, do you not think that the current labour government would not have taken that on board?
The current situation is dire and that reflects on the total population of the UK.
I dont give a damn on what has gone on in the past and nor do I think do the rest of the populatioin.....what have I got in my pocket, what can I afford to spend, how much tax do I have to pay?....UK is in a hell of a mess and that can't e blamed on Maggie...or can it?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

the root cause can.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

It's always a race to the bottom with the nasty party. I'll say it again. Lets be positive. Labours best achievement is 600 jobs and the Globe centre. Nothing to do with politics, just making people's lives better.

What is the Tories best contribution Andrew....? Now it's all getting positive you don't seem to want to know. Are you not interested in making things better?

waiting............... silence ............... still waiting ......

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Come on Margrit YouTube - COMPO & NORA BATTY - 'Nora Batty's Stockings' + BILL OWEN - 'Last Of The Summer Wine' - 45rpm 1983be fair:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Your point is... that's just ranting Andrew because no-one is better informed. What Claytonender said was Tories spent 650K of our money on a website and abandoned it. Are you in denial about this?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If it is found that PB did not tip you off then of course I apologise for inferring insider connections. However HOW did you know to target those years. Labour Councillors did not know. How come you picked on the only two allowances I have had? Funny? Doing things behind the scenes causes deep suspicion of your motives.

Are you going to publish this table? I know the outcome will be very very embarrassing for the Tories.

Slimy? How. I reproduced a article from the DT and LT that you didn't like?

still waiting.................. (like Cashman) It was a simple question. If your local Tories are SO GOOD. Telling us all the BEST thing they have done in a decade should be an easy question. LETS BE POSITIVE ANDREW!

waiting..................

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Silence is deafening. All that money spent when it could quite easily have been done in house anyway
.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I agree completely with you.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I feel people should look at the bigger picture in politics like whos in government Graham cheers for your apology to Andrew very admirable.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Politics starts at the grass roots, like knowing who your local ward councillor is...:rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Caz.. it doesn't end there

Council tax up again - 7% this year!
Allowances up
£400k lost on Leisure Trust (we guarantee £300k) - £250k 2007, 250k 2006
£200k lost every year on Concessionary fares since 2006 - (Could be more!)
up to £100k lost on Concessionary Fares since 1998
650k lost on a website...

those are just the big ticket items
Name change abandoned
Gt Harwood Town Council abandoned
Merger with Ribble Valley abandoned

Leisure privatised chaos.
Regeneration privatised, then brought back in then run by Blackburn

Labour kicked off 6 committees - great at democracy too...

Its very frustrating.. Well (maybe I should think) it's only my money so it doesn't matter LOL!!

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

So what is the bigger picture in government then Turkishdelight.

Surely it is important for the government to invest money in Hyndburn and it would appear that the only government who will do that is a LABOUR government. If you know that a Tory government would invest in Hyndburn please can you tell us, how much extra money they would invest.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

i would assume the reason would be her son, right or wrong thats what i think, as n aside me late mum in law, who i loved to bits, voted conservative fer the first time cos a woman was standing, in fairness after witnessing the devastation caused by that woman,reverted back to labour. could be a moral there somewhere,who knows?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I bet you know who your ward councillors are Caz.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Yes I do!

Nick Collingeridge(?)Independant

Janet Storey Conservative.

PS, only been here 2 months lol!

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Con-dependent - Votes against Labour EVERY time. Admits to making deals with Britcliffe. Hasn't the balls to tell his electorate though.

I want to out his views and voting so people can see through all the bull. He tells the Tories he will deall with us unless. We don't do back door (under the table) politics. Told him so and if he carries on I'll go public to say we will never work with underhand people.

Hopefully the power hungry Tories will drop their deals with him (to stop him supporting us) and he can do what other opposition Councillors have to do. Fight the best they can for crumbs from the Emperors table.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Although i admit not to being an expert on politics i will try to answer your question as honestly as i am able firstly the state of the N.H.S. the economic crisis, crime rates all the cut backs people have never been so dissatisfied with a labour government i believe after voting labour all my life its time for change and really have confidence in DAVID CAMERON as do many others.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

And 13 years of a conservative government did what for the NHS and the crime rates?

The economic issue is global, or hadn't you noticed?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

read the ceefax page 124 thread,they never change.:D