Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

How fortunate!

Two of our councillors who feel able to post on here.

You are lucky.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Cheers for that information.Your right found out earlier today.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Why who do you want to post on here let me know i see into it.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Hi ignore that last comment i dont want to become involved.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Oh how wonderful, to have friends in high places, and to be able to exert such influence.

I'd be thrilled to communcate with my own two councillors via Accy Web.

They are Cllr. Brian Walmsley, and Cllr. Peter Britcliffe.

Thanks ever so much.

I feel like I've been granted a lovely wish.

Dreams can come true.

:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

That's not nice.

Offering to help someone, then taking it away.

:(

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

[quote=garinda;681955]Oh how wonderful, to have friends in high places, and to be able to exert such influence.

I'd be thrilled to communcate with my own two councillors via Accy Web.

They are Cllr. Brian Walmsley, and Cllr. Peter Britcliffe.

Thanks ever so much.

I feel like I've been granted a lovely wish.

Dreams can come true.

:)[/quote On reflection i feel its not up to me to get involved but if i felt like you i suggest you challenge them to come on here.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Anyone see tumbleweeds round here? :D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I really am just interested in finding out more about local politics now so i will be attending the council meetings that will be an interesting one next week.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

as far as i'm aware turkish delight they have been challenged quite a few times to come on here, only second hand info,but from people i trust.:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

who says politics is boring..getting involved is good for the soul instead of complaining about the state of the country get involved nd make a difference:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If you ever get so interested in the political life of Hyndburn, that you decide to stand for election as a councillor, please promise here and now that it won't be in St. Andrews ward.

Thanks.

:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

thats fine so long as the difference aint costing the ratepayers money fer nowt, i wonder who lives in a world like that?:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Keep it going folks ... we have a blizzard happening here; so, I need a good chuckle ... it will put me in a good mood for the shovelling that I will be doing in a couple of hours.:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

My goal has always been to make the Borough better and I could sit down and rhyme off the key issues and how we need to change.

I don't trip you up. You make the decisions and you have lost £000,000's of Council Tax payers money.

Labour Councillors are the only councillors with any courage, honesty and integrity in Hyndburn. You know that because you come to Council meetings.

Even an AccyWeb member (who said they had not voted Labour) said they were quite surprised by what they saw. 'Labour allowed the childish gibes to pass by and stuck to issues that mattered'. If Shakermaker turned up he would change his opinion too.

In other Borough's I am sure the Conservatives have the best ideas and work harder, their Labour counterparts poor or useless.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

What do we read into that? are you happy with the one's you've got? :)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You dont have to worry on that one after reading this thread its put me of for life i would never stand dont want to be a direct part of that dog eat dog world. im afraid its not for me:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If you'd care to read back, I've said both men are good ward councillors.

It's just when it comes to them forming a cabinet and electing a leader, they then start wasting public money on hairbrained schemes, and voting to award themselves pay increase, above independently recommend limints, that they fall down badly.

;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

in terms of pay increases does anyone know what the allowance is per day including hotel and the allowance for meals on daily basis.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

snap: ya aint that daft lol

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

How are we to know that if a Labour led council was elected that it would not be the same?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You can phone your Councillors if you like and have a private chat if you have a problem.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Don't know about shakermaker but I would like to go to one when is the next one?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Cheers for that so i get some credit now.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

If you attend the meeting please introduce yourself to me after the meeting and will be more than happy to talk to you.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

The simple answer is we don't.

But the more evidence that is presented about their daft expensive pipe dreams, and their churlish refusal to work with other councillors, and by the dismissive ways we've heard they reflect questions from Joe Bloggs at public meetings, makes me believe it's worth a punt...because they couldn't do much worse.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Im sure it would be the same no doubt about it.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Thanks for that i will.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Yes I know, and of course if I ever had a problem I would, and as I've said before I know they'd do their best to help me.

It also works both ways.

If they ever have a problem with anything, I hope they know they can phone me.

I'm listening.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Maybe you can help them spend their hard earned expenses :rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

thats a very blinkered view. i have always been prepared to give everyone a chance, then i slag em off if warranted, or praise if thats the case. if ya have n opinion before trying the options then its blinkered to me.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Perhaps the only seeing one point of blinkers are hereditary.:rolleyes:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I'm retired...and besides they couldn't have afforded by booking fee.;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

looks that way to me.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Thats why I would probably vote Labour in local elections following what I have read on here...I do think it's worth a punt.
Going back to the original thread....I don't think it is wrong to do a secret search on the opposition, I have done it many times before commiting to contracts and the like....I dont think there is a difference here.
You note I said local elections....The National elections are a different matter.........Todays headlines on the subject of expenses is beyond belief and hopefully will be addressed.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Questions: Are there any independent councillors? Are there any councillors from parties other than Labour or Conservative? If a candidate from, say, The Green Party ran ... I mean a really credible candidate ... what would that person's chances of election be? And, in general, do people vote for the candidate or the party that a candidate represents? And now, because the blizzard was only an hour long bout of lake effect snow, I'm off to shovel:mad:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Oh, and if anyone attending the next council meeting wishes to borrow my shovel, feel free ... it works not only for snow, but also for BS.:theband:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

That's exactly how I vote.

I try to decide who is the best possible candidate for whatever election is being voted for, and that means I haven't always voted for the same particular political party.

I vote for who I think will do the best job.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

There are Independent councillors on Hyndburn Council.

You can see the party breakdown on the link below.

Councillors - View by name

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

And your take on the rest of the post would be?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

No i truly believe this its so clear obvious and really they deserve it im sure both sides. Blinkered view maybe just thinking what one stated on here re A.B.may be that does run in the blood.:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

nothing at all is clear n obvious in the internet world, ya would be amazed at some impressions ya get on here,or any site, then ya got to know people in the real world, believe me, i made that mistake at first.:);) yer own lad is a prime example of what i'm saying.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I've posted earlier in the thread when asked, that though there is much that this government has done that I strongly disagree with, if a General Election was called for Thursday I'd vote for Greg Pope to continue being M.P. for Hyndburn.

It is a balance, weighing person against party, but at this moment in time Greg Pope would secure my particular vote. He's proved himself to be an excellent Member of Parliament. A man with strongly held principles, and someone not afraid to rebel and stand up to the Party Whip, and who's fought to the best of his ability for the people of Hyndburn.

Peter Britcliffe, the leader whose party you say you wouldn't vote for here, has twice stood against him, unsuccessfully.

Sadly for the local Conservative party that's the quality of candidate they field.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I reflect and understand what your saying:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I agree with that completely....what aboiut the search and the Home secretaries London Expenses?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Thanks for the info .... but I counted 35 councillors .... why so many? For a population of 82 thousand! Is it too simplistic to suggest that council expenses could be reduced by reducing the number of councillors? The City of Kingston has a population of 117 thousand plus the students at Queens' and St. Lawrence College and RMC, (about another 20 thou) and the floating population of Canadian Forces Base Kingston and we have only 12 councillors and the Mayor, who is elected at large. The present council is doing a crappy job, and the mayor will be turfed out on his ass come election time ... but still, there are more than enough bodies to run (or Mis-run) the city ...

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

And what in god's name is "non-metropolitan Lancashire"?:confused:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

The best way to form an opinion of someone is to judge how they instantly react to situations. You get a pretty true picture. Mr Jones I have seen you react to Andrew's request for an FOI and that has given off an image of your character and politics that stinks to high heaven. Observing how you carry yourself in a rehearsed arena such as the Council meeting where you act under rules and protocols would serve no purpose.

As I have said earlier, my knowledge of local politics is average at best. In truth, it bores me. I am sure a lot of people are in the same boat as I. I care about everyday issues such as when the bins are coming and the quality of the shops in the town centre. Aside from that? Not much else. On a general level however I like my politicians to shut up unless they're telling me how they're improving the issues of bin collections/quality of town centre shops etc.

I suggest you think before posting in future, Mr Jones.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Probably for the same reason we have nearly 650 MP's, just over 70 mep's, the various members of the House of Lords, countless number of staff etc etc. Probably equates to 99% of tax paid. The rest goes on a few plasters for the NHS :D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

The point you make about "everyday issues" is a good one: there is nothing dramatic or profound about having the garbage picked up on time, or having reliable policing, or filling in the potholes in spring (unless of course this bread and butter stuff doesn't get done); but I still fail to see what party politics has to do with running a town. Say you have two candidates running: one is an intelligent, reasonable, committed individual who will probably do a helluva fine job, and he is a Conservative; the other candidate has the IQ of a salad bar and the personality of a fecal sandwich without the bread, and he is Labour ... and the ward they are running in is predominantly Labour ... well, you get the picture ....

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I agree 100% ... I think that 12 is too many for Kingston ... I believe that having large numbers of politicians around increases the chances of turning normal inefficiency into a full-blown FUBAR.:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

This would be more fun if all the contestants piled into the Chat Room and duked it out ... could call it Last AccyWebber Standing:theband:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I think it may be Accywebs last stand? or Alamo?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Maybe everyone could wear Santa Anna t-shirts and hats;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I've posted my feelings on a different national site just today, but briefly I think what Jacqui Smith has done is totally unacceptable.

She certainly is a woman of no strong principles.

I'd sack her.

Again I've posted on here before that after so long all power seems to corrupt, and this government reminds me of John Major's, which certainly isn't a favourable comparison.

(By the way, when's your twin brother, Royboy1, coming back from his holidays, the one who says white is black, if I'd said it was the other way around?):D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I have spoken to Graham Jones on a couple of occasions and found him helpful and civil, I am happy to have him as my councillor and would trust him to get the job done. On the contrary I have a close friend who lives in St Andrew's Ward in Ossy and you would not get a good word out of him regarding his councillor, regardless of political preference if the person you deal with face to face, or phone to phone is rude and unpleasant ,you are not likely to vote for them, even if you were a confirmed Party voter.
I know who I would rather have, but it's my personal opinion, based on my dealings with that person.
(and I am not related to any councillors at the moment , that I am aware of !)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Surely you don't get a vote in our local elections as well?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

As I'm from the same ward I totally agree with you Lindsay.

Like Garinda in the locals I vote for the best person for the job but the General Election is different.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

But it would be different if you were voting for the national govt. wouldn't it? When what you are voting for is a party that best reflects you views on which direction the country should go? But if your post reflects how you, and no doubt many others, vote locally, why bother with party politics at all at this level of govt.? All it seems to do is generate pages of insult and innuendo, which, altho' it is entertaining, is still "a tale told by an idiot" etc.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Twin brother I have none....Banter is one thing but smart arsed comments from whatever scource tends to get my back up.
Read what I say and dont interpret what I say as an an excuse for you to score brownie points on the forum.
Have you ever done a search on the opposition?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You've got it in one Eric, I've asked this question many times and still not got a good answer.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Agreed, and my allegiance lies with our MP whom I believe is an honest, trustworthy and hard working man, again I have met Greg on many occasions and have had no reason to doubt his integrity, on occasions when I have needed his help and advice he has been available and most helpful. All I could ask of an MP has been delivered in a timely and polite fashion. he readily makes himself available for his constituents and often answers questions directly on here, no airs and graces, just honesty.
I admire that as a quality and that is why I would vote for him without hesitation.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

My remark certainly wasn't intended to be seen as a smart arsed comment.

I just ysed my humour to point out that for once we seem to be in total agreement about something. No more, no less.

I've actually enjoyed debating a subject with you, where we both weren't making silly digs.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Answer the question Gary....Have you ever done a search on the opposition? and was it kept secret?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Eric. It can be overstated the amount of disagreements between the parties on the council. Whilst there are clearly differences, there also a fair degree of cross party working on a lot of issues. But it's the knock about stuff that get's the headlines

Incidentally you mentioned the number of councillors we have. It's not that long ago that we changed to 35 councillors. We used to have 47 councillors,and there are some on the council who would like us to go back to that. I hasten to add I am not one of them.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

It is a very difficult choice to make sometimes, balancing the mertits of a man or woman versus the party they are a member of.

I said earlier our last M.P. Ken Hargreaves is a good person, and I think did a very good job as M.P. for Hyndburn. I didn't vote for him, at the one election he stood before I moved away, because he was also a member of a party who formed a government whose policies didn't benefit this area, or the country.

Again the last time he stood the government had been in power for so long they were morally corrupt, in my opinion.

Happily I have total faith in the person who now represents the area in which I live. Greg Pope will do his upmost for Hyndburn, the country as a whole, and is someone not afraid to stand up to those he sees as wrong, even when it's his own party's top brass.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Blimey, it's like the Spanish Inquisition!:D

I've actually got friends here tonight, and am only supposed to be popping on here when I have to go in the kitchen!

Happy to be a not very good host, for once, and I'll try and answer youir question.

I probably don't understand what you mean, but as for doing a search on the oppposition, I honestly don't see things as being so straightforward.

I try to keep informed with information about lots of issues, from as many different sources as possible, and then make my own mind up.

Like I say, I haven't always voted for the same particular party, so personally I don't see anyone as 'opposition'. It could be anyone I see as doing the right or wrong thing, regardles of which party they represent.

As I said way back in this thread. My criticism of our council leader isn't personal, or party political.

I'd happily keep my gob firmly shut, regardless as to the colour of his rosette, if I thought he was doing a good job for the borough.

If I haven't answered the question you asked, I apologise, but this bottle of wine is needed elsewhere now, and I'd better go and pour it.:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You say in past an current post you were a sucess in business and have proved it.
The original question was, as I read it, has anyone the right to check on the credentials of the opposition in secret...I think they do.

And I hope you are giving your guests the best that Spain can offer. Wine from Ribero Del Duero....or some such?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I know what you mean .... about a decade ago Kingston and the Islands was represented by Flora McDonald ... a "red" tory and a great MP ... but she got the boot because she represented the Progressive Conservative Party ... and in that election Canadian voters punished the PCs taking them from a majority in parliament to a rump of only 4 members ... poor Flora didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, even tho', personally, she was very popular. That Greg Pope doesn't sound like a bad dude ... there are lots of positive comments about him.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

as far as i know the parties are the ones who pay for the leaflets and volunteers from the parties deliver them ... sometimes in the area where they live or nearby. Now if the councillors arent a member of a party then they would have to pay for their leaflets themselves. Now to print a leaflet, with a photograph on round a ward (the photograph so then people know who it is thats standing), will probably cost around £500 plus then you have to deliver the said leaflet to the constituents. To pay for it to be delivered you would depending on how many houses there were in that ward could cost another £300/£400 if you dont have enough volunteers to help you deliver them. Then also on top of that is canvassing - knocking on doors and speaking to the voters, and election day itself which if someone said theyd vote for you and then say i cant get to the polling station .. are you going to have a someone driving round in a car to take them? Also with a party backing you you have the adverts in newspapers, tv etc.

Before anyone says anything i've had plenty of experience on elections i've stood for election twice ... never mind the years i've spent canvassing and election days etc.... With party backing it is easier unless you have a large base of people you can call on to help you.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Can someone please answer me that question.Has anyone the right to check on the credentials of the opposition in secret?

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

In the States, FBI ... In Canada, RCMP ... in England ... I dunno:confused:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Oh I see what you mean now.

I honestly don't know if a source is named when someone requests information under the Freedom of Information Act, as I've never needed to use it.

I do think the act is a good thing. Transparency in public affairs can only be for the good of democracy. In theory, so as not to be hypocritical about the openess it claims to uncover, I do think the person's name who requested the information should be made known.

I believe none of this should really be an issue, as I think public offical's expenses and allowances should be made public, and open to public scrutiny.

As I said earlier knowing the depths the current Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, has stooped to, in playing the system to feather her own nest, is morally wrong, and I'm glad that the information is in the public arena.

So yes, people have the moral right to request information under the Freedom of Information Act, just as they have the legal right, but in all fairness their identity shouldn't be hidden.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

think thats a good question n from my point of view has two answers, first it depends what arena yer in, in business i would say yes, some cases even essential fer obvious reasons. second MPs/Councillors are elected and paid for by the electorate, n as such should be open n transparent, end of the day its our money. which they are not, ok theres FOI, which is law as it stands, anyone digging into these areas therefore to me should be just as transparent, until that day we will always have silly political games cos some of these will have ulterior motives,that is just as obvious, so fer the second part i say NO they should not have the right to dig in secret.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I did have successful, and very interesting career, but that's not the issue. I was just lucky enough to find a niche where what little talent I have was needed. I didn't have to prove anything, or justify myself, as I don't have any need to lie, and am certainly happy enough in my own skin not to feel the need to 'big myself up.'

The only proof I offered that I don't tell lies, is that I said there are enough people who do know me on here, friends who'd happily pull me up if I'd said something they knew to be untrue.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

hell we musta been typing at the same time rindy, yer quicker than me.:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Lol, I'm not a bad typer, spelling aside, even for a shaky git who uses one finger of his wrong hand.:p:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Cheers for the answer Casnman your a wise one. You aways seem to have the answers i mean that in a nice way and always make good sense i like your responses true and to the point in a nice way., diplomatic way:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

hell ive bin called many things in my life, Diplomatic is a first.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You are really and im a good judge of character:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

You sure you feeling ok turkish delight ... calling cashy diplomatic ...... never heard that one before!!!! Heard other things but never diplomatic!!!!!

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Blimey Jen was just thinkin same myself.. :D

Go cashy go cashy.. :mosher::mosher:

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Cashy the elections this year arent local ....its the county elections and european elections ........ fancy standing for the european? Could imagine you in Brussels!!!!

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

ive done my wack,paid me dues jen in other arenas as ya know, prefer now to just be a silly owd sod.:D

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Unless the character is your own local councillor, then you're ignorant, in the nicest possible way.;)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

And you are so good at it;):D
But Diplomatic:confused: Blunt, forthright, concise, perceptive ... maybe .... Diplomatic? I'll have to think about that one:eek: Maybe a beer will help.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I really have no idea what yout saying here im totally lost now:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Jaysay can you explain the above comment please.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Glad we can agree on something claytonender, there is no better way than one person one vote in my opinion, cast at a poling station by putting and X in a box of the candidate of choice, when you start messing about with gadgets and electronic counting it's a recipe for disaster and a clown in the White House for 8 years

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

As i state im totally dont unserstand this comment i just stated my opinion and in my view it was a positive comment to another im absoulutely sure im no way ignorant if you knew me personally you would realise one thing im always very aware of how i conduct myself with members of the public and interact with them you have to have real skills in this area and i feel i pocess them in less i have misunderstood your comment.where my skills are lacking at the moment i admit knowledge of local politics which i intend to address by attending meetings and becoming more involved as it is more interesting than i anticipated, or originally understood. I appreciate the bit in the nicest possible way Cheers.:)

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

All that was meant was that you felt able to tell us who you'd vote for, yet didn't know which ward you lived in, or who your local councillors are.

You said you are a good judge of character. I commented that you can't judge fairly, when you are ignorant as to who people are.

Ignorant meaning unaware, as defined in the dictionary.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I kind of take you point here. As for voteing im absoulutely clear on that point who i will be voteing for in the general election as i clearly view it their is no choice we need change and the sooner the better but at least i dont have to worry about that one as we all know what will happen. True i was unable to tell you who i would vote for in the local elections this is were my ignorance prevails i have honestly never bothered due to the fact i truly beleived that they had little power in the grander scheme of things but A.B. has put me straight on that one and yes i wasnt unaware until of late who my councillor was i have never had any leaflets through my door most importantly know one has ever come to my house canvassing. I Never stated i was judgeing the councillors as i couldnt dont know them never interacted with them how can i dont know their policies yet but i will learn. This next statement is just hear say now i have been in-formed how briilant MR. P.B.is in the bourough from some very in-formed sources equally i have heard the same of G.J. I will be attending the council meetings and will seek to make judgement myself then and according to their policies.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Even if you took no interest in local politics, and were woefully naive as to the power they have over our lives, it just seems odd that someone who is on the electoral register didn't know which ward they lived in, when it quite clearly states the information on the voting forms that are posted to every house, come election time.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I was amused to read this comment on little Andrew's blog, from Accy Web member, and arch Conservative, Acrylic-bob.

'Excellent. Good show. But bear in mind that the current administration are not without their faults too and while Labour have Cllr Jones to hobble their aspirations the Conservatives must struggle on with Cllr Britcliffe at the helm - That man is more of a dangerous liability than Gordon Brown!'

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

True but ive moved house and only lived here for 2 years so i may have thrown them in the bin and not took much notice as again didnt feel they were important only take notice of these forms at a general election.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I guess I'm lucky, in that I actually read what's posted through my door, just in case it's important, and I might find out something that might be to my advantage, such as knowing what ward I live in, and who my councillors are.

Again I must just be lucky, and haven't been so naive since about the age of eight, as to think local politicans don't weild an enormous power over our lives, and that people pay a large amount of their income to fund them.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I do indeed open every letter that comes through my door ive probably infact, i know glanced at one of these forms and again thought its not important so ive binned it and not given it another thought. I will tell you really i do think politicians weild an enormous power over our lifes thats why we are in this mess now but again didnt realise they did at local level i am far from naive but your right on this local politics i am.I know many people if i presented them with the question which ward do you live in and who is your councillor they would not be able to tell me so im far from on my own regarding this point.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

I think it's scandalous that you've received no leaflets, or have not been canvassed by the Conservative party at election times, telling you what a good job they are doing in Hyndburn.

Sadly you didn't even receive a lovely calendar, as you aren't represented by Conservative councillors.

Shocking state of affairs.

Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
 

Can I just say that I have only lived in my area for 2 months and I know who the councillors are. I lived in my last area for 18 months, I knew who my councillors were. When I lived in spring hill I was only there for a couple of years and new who the councillor was, also of the residents committee, which I joined, because I made it my business to find out. "Only" living in that ward for 2 years is no excuse.

As far as speaking for anyone else not knowing who their local councillor is, you don't seem to have a clue what is going on yourself, so how can you come on here and try and represent anyone elses views? Good job there aren't too many naive people in your ward otherwise G. Jones & Bernard Dawson wouldn't be there to represent you.

Can you tell me what changes you want made on a national level, and how these can be implemented?