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No Cashy, he did not have to do it...he turned Labour into a pale version of the Conservative party.
So how was that responding to a Conservative administration?
Make a pale version....yeah that works....NOT

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i did not agree with it, but am speaking in the broader sense the knobs that are supposed to represent us i am sure near enough, discussed how to get elected and came up with it.

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So nothing at all to do with socialist ideology?
Just a cynical ploy to suck in the electorate and it worked.
Sometimes change is not for the better....and it does not serve the public, but then we are pretty low on the list of a politicians priorities aren't we....our own representative has proved that.
He is more interested in the Yemen and Venezuela.
If he is out of work come Dec 13th maybe he can get a job as a tour guide in one of these countries....eh.

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that is just what i believe it was Margaret,by the way i watched the debate last night, and it confirmed to me, that Corbyn is not the solution he is the PROBLEM, pity some cant see it.

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Some can see it, Cashy!

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...ked-to-russia/

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i sure hope enough can exile.

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I thought Thatcher was the worse PM we ever had (though my father actually believed it to be Churchill), then Blair came along and give her a run for her money.... I do believe whoever gets in out of this sad and pathetic bunch vying for power will exceed even those two to be the worse ever. How have we come to such a sad state of affairs where the choices we have to be our elected leaders have become so pitifully poor? Maybe we can't blame them when most people say things along the lines of "oh that's politics nothing to do with me" or an over pampered, soft, self-entitled society where the definition of 'poverty' is not being able to buy your offspring the latest iPhone/trainers and the clinically obese waddle about bemoaning how badly off they are. I really dislike what has happened to the country over the past couple of decades and I don't see any of the potential candidates for PM doing anything but make things worse. How sad a situation when all we can vote on is who can do us the least damage and not who can do us any good.

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i am convinced nothing will be as bad as thatcher, at least in my lifetime,she manipulated the people into selfish gets as far as im concerned, the " I m alright Jack Brigade"

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We need to turf out the chap who was supposed to represent us, but is more interested in the Yemen and Venezuela.
There needs to be a clear out of all the arrogant MP's who think they know more about what we want than we do.
I will walk over hot coals to cast my vote against the Labour candidate....and I never thought I would say that.

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The problem with the current version of the Labour Party is that they have become so concerned and wrapped up with "minorities" they have completely forgotten and ignored the majority. They will suffer mightily for that on Thursday.

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i certainly hope you are right jimmy, never ever thought i would say owt like that.

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Me too.
The current shower need to be wiped from British politics forever.
They are NOT socialists....and if elected the country would go down the gurgler.
Their plans are neither sensible nor sustainable and anyone who thinks they are should be in an insane asylum.

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Just watched the Question Time debate and in yet another 'weighted' audience only Farage (and I'm not a fan of his by no means) pointed out that an extra 8 million people in the country (officially) is one of the reasons there is such a strain on our infrastructure gets shouted down as racist by Rayner (shadow education secretary ? really, good god). When are the BBC ever going to have an audience that actually represents the British public ? One that puts the other side of the argument regarding those poor oppressed "Travellers"... I used to be ultra supportive of the BBC and lauded it being an oasis away from the drivel of advertising but the people running it are destroying it for the sake of their own agendas. Same as your good selves... the more I see of the current guise of the Labour party the more I believe it is just unelectable. This lot make even Derek Hatton look like a Kissinger style statesman.

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They won't because they are biased to favour the left.Why do you think so many of the 'luvvies' support Corbyn and his policies.
Most of these have their money in off shore accounts, but in any case if it all goes belly up, they have the resources to flit to some welcoming EU bolt hole.

The BBC are crapping themselves at the thought that BJ might(and it is only a might) ditch the Licence fee.

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The B.B.C. have completely capitulated to Labour, i rarely watch anything political on it any more,i never watched it cos to me it was obvious what the script would be.

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Most of the televised 'news' on all channels seems to be biased in a similar way Cashy.
I have not watched any of the televised political stuff because it is not worth watching.

Yesterday political activists (labour of course) were taxied to where the conservatives were campaigning.
Now I have no problem at all with the man in the street heckling politicians to get their point over....but when some rich left wing moneybags sets up to send thugs to the hustings....then to me that is where it all goes horribly wrong...and it is 'not cricket'....not the fair way of doing things.

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oh it is, but the BBC are worst of a bad bunch, and i used to love the channel.

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Interesting view of Corbyn from a young metropolitan.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/1...rty-candidate/

Particularly agreed with this:
And then the EU referendum happened. Saddened though I was by Corbyn’s backing of Remain, and by the overwhelming (but unsurprising) support the party gave to that cause, I was initially able to reconcile my Leave vote with my party allegiance. After all, Labour’s 2017 manifesto promised that Brexit would be carried out. Perhaps foolishly, I believed this pledge, buying Corbyn’s pitch to be a man of principle, bringing honesty into politics.

It is remarkable how much has changed since then. Marx once said that as soon as the bourgeoisie decides democracy is no longer in its political interests, it will shut it down. It looks like he was right. Two-and-a-half years on from the 2017 election, and our parliament, with Labour’s support, has rejected every form of Brexit placed before it, from No Deal to May’s Deal. The Liberal Democrats have made a mockery of their name by backing the revocation of Article 50. And the policy of the now largely middle-class Labour Party is to pursue a second referendum in which it will put its own new Brexit deal, based on close alignment with the EU, against Remain.

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I have just had another epistle from our erstwhile MP....I do wish that he would get these flyers made out of Matt paper....at least then it might be useful for something.
It has gone straight in the recycling....so much for climate change and ecologically friendly aims then.
Poor bloody tree...cut down to be used for #accyladgonebad propaganda.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1234355]They won't because they are biased to favour the left.Why do you think so many of the 'luvvies' support Corbyn and his policies.

yes, leave it to those lot and there would be a permanent left wing government in this country and the democrats in power in the usa.

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To me the BBC has never been politically neutral they have in the past been a strong supporters of the tory party, they have switch their allegiance purely because they are petrified of Brexit, for me you can flush the BBC down the toilet, along with the house of lords

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Had a call on my mobile about 8pm tonight from an unknown number, I was working so couldn't answer but they left me a voicemail - oh dear, thinks I - it must be important.
But no, the message was from, as she described herself 'a volunteer associated with the conservative party' just checking if I'd voted & encouraging me to be pretty damn quick about it if I hadn't!!
1) How the hell did they get my mobile number & 2) what gives them the right to hassle people like this
I don't care which party they were from, invading people's privacy in this way is not acceptable imho

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There was a lady in Todmorden who posted that she would be available to transport LABOUR voters to the polls.
She even said that the Labour Party had insured her to carry prospective voters.

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Hyndburn Con Gain

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Am glad I was right - but also quite sad about it too. It just has the feeling more of a pyrrhic victory than anything.

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So the Boris has been given the "go ahead" in no uncertain terms, it now only remains to be seen if he truly is one of these rarities, an honest & integral politico. Must say that despite the right noises emanating from him & the tories I still have reservations about them giving the populace what they really want.

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had no internet for a few days but didn't miss the good news, Corbyn is History, pmsl,for me sadly Labour got "EXACTLY" what they deserved, and i am really glad.

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All those who changed parties lost their seats.
The swamp has been drained....now it is a very different looking administration.
I am pretty sure that those in Brussels are feeling a bit twitched.
Who knows, the laws that initially tied the PM's hands might just be repealed.
(And the plans that were being made for a clean Brexit never stopped... not that I am saying that the current WA will be ditched)

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Forgive me if I am wrong but didn't the Remain lot say how the pound was going to drop like a stone and end up on a par with the Venezuelan fig leaf ?

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Some of you may have voted for this chap over the summer but won’t find the BBC reporting what he told the EUSSR ‘parliament’ (sic) yesterday.

https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_dec_eu_superstate

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It has been reported that once the UK leaves the EU.....there will be some changes.
Currently, there are rooms in Strasbourg named after Sir Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher....once we have left,these rooms will be re-named and all references to any British statesman/woman will be removed from the EU offices.

Now....what does that tell you about this sad bunch of people?
It tells me that they are peevish and childish(NOT something we did not already know).
As if that will make one iota of difference.
Right now, they are bricking it because they have lost their band of useful idiots(those MP's who thwarted the will of the people).
We are leaving, no more extensions or delays.....and it might even come to a clean, no strings attached leave.....which is what I voted for anyway.
It is looking like my bottle of vintage Dom might at last get supped.

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lets hope so.

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Yes Cashy...on all counts...leaving, No single market, no freedom of movement, no customs union, no ECJ.....and no paying into their money pit.

Scotland wants independence from the UK....but is ready to sell itself to the undemocratic EU.
Have they not been watching, or listening to the insults directed at a 'much valued' member?(only valued for its cash.)

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i am not that sure Scotland wants independence from the U.K. that silly cow does but aint sure the majority of scots do. i credit em with more sense than that. to be honest i would be surprised if that was the case.

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How damnably petty - what are they going to rename them to ? The Hitler and Goering suites ?

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Yes...it smacks of 'it's my ball and you aren't playing with it because I am taking it home'.
But then that has been the tone of things all along.
You do not insult friends or allies and expect them to remain friends and allies.
They have treated us like Sh1 t on their shoe....and expect us to keep on taking it.

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She equates the recent election success as being the nod to go for another independence vote.....because a lot of Scottish folk voted for the party in the election, does not mean that all those voters want to be independent of the UK.

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Guess what?
Spain and Poland are both threatening to quit the EU.....with Spain saying they want 'no more humiliation'.

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It would be good if the UK has beaten a path to the door that other countries can follow.

I think that unless the EU makes some very radical changes(which it won't) then it's days are numbered.

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And this has not been reported on the BBC.

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I actually think France may well be next. The country has the highest level of public spending against it's GDP in the EU, the Gilet Jaunes are doing their bit and Marine Le Pen (of the Front Nationale) coould become president. All the recipes for some serious unrest and desire for change.

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Jimmy, there is nothing I would like to see more than France leaving the EU.
Then the house of cards would fall.

The EU has beaten sovereign countries into submission (Greece, they helicoptered in a technocrat government to do the work of the EU, similarly in Italy)by political and fiscal means rather than bullets and tanks....and it seems like although Germany lost the war, they have used their will and the power of a soppsed trading organisation to ensure they make the rules(via Brussels of course)...or at least that is how it looked to me.

Spain and Poland are being told that their judiciary have to bow to the ECJ and are not happy about relinquishing primacy of their courts....they see this(rightly) as a loss of sovereignty.....maybe these countries are waking up to the devious ways of the EU.

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i would be very pleased if the whole CORRUPT shebang collapsed.

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Can't really expect Al Beeb, the uk cheerleader for the rotten eu to denigrate their masters, the expression "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind & to be honest I wouldn't expect anything less from the "Brussels Bullsh'ting Co-operative".

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Slowly, slowly, catchy Monkey! I think that the the end of the eu scam, as it presently is has been rumbled & in the not to distant future there will be major change if not outright dissolution of the cesspool.


Sensible nations will go back to trading with each other with their own currencies, as it once was & it worked well enough then & should do again. And all the would be Napoleons & Adolfs will be sent scuttling back under their cruddy rocks to skulk & sulk.

Oh & the Gargoyle Verhofstadt can crawl back up his drainpipe & re-take his rightful position on his Church corner!

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It will take longer to recover from the Fourth Reich than it did from the Third.

I wonder what the response would have been by the EU to Britain had this country 'invited' a million Hong Kong citizens (who are generally industrious and law abiding) to escape the despotism of China as opposed to the rabble (who are freeloading ingrates hell bent on abusing and destroying our way of life) that Merkel invited ? I bet the UK would have been vilified and had penalties imposed by the EU.

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they,ll just re brand it as something different but will be actually the same. U.S.E.R. comes to mind especially with the initials. union of servile european republics.

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I would hope not....fool us once shame on you, fool us twice and shame on us.
I think the populations will be wiser a second time around.
The bait on the hook of this bamboozlement was trade.
I don't think that one can be used again

The fact that both Spain and Poland are questioning the erosion of their sovereignty by the EU is something that may make other members wake up to the situation.

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They will have already made sure they don't lose no matter which way the cookie's hit the fan, golden parachutes in the form of excellent pensions and severance payments will take whatever remains in the EU pot.

By the way, what will happen to our entries in the European lottery?

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Less, they will still take our money....but might destroy our lotto numbers.
After all there is going to be one helluva financial black hole to fill....one which Germany and France are in no position to cover....nor do they look likely to be in the foreseeable future.

When it goes ar$e uppards it will release Greece, Italy and Spain.....they need to take back their old currencies, devalue and then they will be able to claw themselves out of the pit dug for them by the EU and the stupid single currency experiment.
For them, it has never been an even playing field.
The EU always knew this but took advantage and that is downright immoral.

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1/ on the rare occasions I play, I'm beginning to think they already have me on their no chance list.

B/ The EU aren't immoral to be immoral you have to have morals in the first place, they have always been amoral, got to admit though our house of commons is immoral they soon learnt it's better to receive than to give honest service.

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As usual Less, you are spot on.
The EU IS amoral....the aim of its reason for being was to take over countries political systems by stealth....to subdue them with laws rather than guns and bloodshed.....and to let those who joined believe that there was a benefit in them being members.

When a 'club' ceases to be of benefit....you leave. That is what we should have been given the option to do before the Maastricht treaty (1992)was signed....this changed it from a trading organisation to a politicised organisation.

If you join a golf club, you pay....every member pays for the privilege of using the facility.

In the EU some members pay, so that others (who pay nothing) can take out....not reasonable, not fair and totally wrong.

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So? Have we done with this thread? Is all rosey with the world now that we’ve got a Conservative M.P?
Are we out of the EU yet?

Do you know what?

I no longer care, we were told the UK would become dust, the pound would suffer and yet...
I and the rest of us seem to be able to survive!
Where are the long queues for us to collect the products manufactured in China that we all love?
Be honest the EU is still a minor power of minor states struggling to show some importance.

Importance?

It’s always been the ones with the best trading the wimps will follow.




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Less, it was all scaremongering.
It was aimed at deflecting us from our aim of leaving....and to some degree it is still going on.
The House of Lords has to pass the legislation that ratifies the WA.

There is still some sabre rattling in the EU....they are saying that trade deals cannot be completed by the end of December.
What they mean is that they do not want them to be completed and will put every conceivable obstacle in the way of achieving a trade deal...because each month they keep us in, we pay them 1billion quid....Also until the transition period ends we are still subject to the laws they make....and they could pass punitive laws...laws that would be in their interest, but that would penalise us in trade or in banking or anything really.

It may be that if they continue on this course, the only way forward would be to leave without a deal.
This scares the EU, but yet they continue to play silly bu88ers because they don't want to lose face.

All that said we are in a far better position than we were, because many of the remainers have been booted out.

The EU are currently looking at a 'plastic tax'....this will be introduced under the guise of the climate change issue, but the money will go towards filling the big hole the loss of our contributions will create.

There are also rumblings in Hungary and ther is a real fear that our departure will cause the whole house of cards to tumble.

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One lives in hope. As to the carry on with VdL & Barmier, Boris should be telling them to wind their necks in, we're doing the running on this one & it's time the eu-rinal danced to our tune ...... and if it doesn't suit, well they can just do one as we go off & do our own thing & we'll see their trade deals through WTO.

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if we are not free by end of december,then it should ok NO DEAL. but i doubt if thats what will happen

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Well the first step is end of the month, Jan 31st 2020. Get that cleared properly & then see how Boris & his team pan out.

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Well the first step is end of the month, Jan 31st 2020. Get that cleared properly & then see how Boris & his team pan out.

Let this be a lesson to all you folks out there, while viewing multiple sites & drnking Beer make sure you've closed down your last page on a community site, guess who didn't, saw the entry & hit post!

:D :o

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One thing being hidden by a few smokescreens is the desire of Merkel to make German holocaust deniers laws EU wide. I always thought it better to let the absurd arguments (like the Flat Earth society etc) be judged on their own merits as most people are capable of making their own minds up on such issues. Banning and criminalising people and their thoughts or ideas for having a different view to yours or the accepted norm is nothing short of tyranny. It begs the question of who will decide which groups or thoughts will be deemed illegal - an EU commission (no doubt directed by Fuhrer Merkel)?


https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/1...ocaust-denial/

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[QUOTE=Jimmy Clitheroe;1235680]One thing being hidden by a few smokescreens is the desire of Merkel to make German holocaust deniers laws EU wide...Banning and criminalising people and their thoughts or ideas for having a different view to yours or the accepted norm is nothing short of tyranny. It begs the question of who will decide which groups or thoughts will be deemed illegal - an EU commission (no doubt directed by Fuhrer Merkel)?

This is how all dictatorships operate. They start out by ‘banning’ things or thoughts that no-one should argue for in order to establish their right to ban things. Then they move on to ban more and more things, ideas, and principles.
They’ll be ‘banning’ any criticism of the EU soon enough.

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[QUOTE=Exile on Spencer St;1235698]is that not how Hitler started in the 30s?

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I deny that Hitler ever existed, in fact I deny that there was a world war from 1939 to 1945 millions did not die everyone had a really great time AND Germany couldn't have been involved because the German people spent that time in Spain putting towels on sun loungers.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_a...locaust_denial


There are quite a few who have been imprisoned across Europe (Germany even sought extradition of someone from the UK) for similar comments to that.

Don't they realise the irony of acting in a fascist manner to 'prevent' fascism ?

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No.
You can accuse Germans of many things, but having a sense of irony is not one of them.:rolleyes:

https://www.1843magazine.com/dispatc...-german-humour

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Lord Greaves(a Lib Dem remainer) says that there are many folk are crying about leaving the EU....he says the cry themselves to sleep and wake up crying....where did he get this information.
Twaddle, utter twaddle.
It is said that the Lords will try to reverse Brexit...out certainly try to thwart it.
They have learned absolutely nothing.

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...s-Lord-Greaves
Read about it here.

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is that prat related to corbyn? he certainly looks like the pillock.

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And don't I know it!

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I haven't seen anything on any of our news channels about the unrest within farming communties in Germany and Ireland...and that farmers have been blocking main roads with tractors in many German cities.
Protests have also been held in Belguim and France.
New regulations are being imposed on farmers about what pesticides they can use.

https://www.politico.eu/article/rura...rs-anger-boils

And yes some of this goes back to the latter part of last year...but NOT reported here in the UK

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theres allsorts not been reported here in the uk, i wonder why?:rolleyes:

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Maybe this will be of use,

https://www.dw.com/en/top-stories/world/s-1429

then use the search box (top right) in the header or either click on Germany in the blue bit. :)

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-latest-update
Thought this might be of interest.

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Did you see this reported on the Beeb.
No, neither did I.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...awal-agreement

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Didn't see this either on the Beeb.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...sels-subsidies

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Unless it meets the Metropolitan Woke agenda, you won’t see or hear anything on the Bull**** Broadcasting Corpse.
As to the House of Lardarses, York is far too nice for them.

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Yes, you are right about York being too nice for the HoL....and they would be looking to claim increased expenses for being out of the capital.

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it dont matter the Lords cannot reverse it, B.J. can reject any amendment if his majority votes it down.

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They know it, Cashy, but like a bunch of spoilt brats the so-called Lords and Ladies are just trying to delay things out of spite.

It’s not even that EU citizens are under any threat.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...ng-kicked-out/

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Hear, hear...

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...in-of-history/

Get rid of the lot.

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To reconnect northern voters, there needs to be a shift in politics.
A shift away from paternalistic 'we understand things better than you' view held by a lot of MP's and a shift towards doing what the constituents voted for....they need to be doing what benefits the regions they were voted into.
The disenchantment has come about because the electorates votes have been trashed, taken no notice of.
We have been told that the way to change things is through the ballot box, but this has not had any effect.

Another thing is that MP's should come from the place they represent...not be parachuted in from elsewhere.
A local person SHOULD have more understanding of the needs of the area.....though that did not prove to be true in the case of our Ex MP.

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Another news item that, mysteriously :rolleyes:, doesn’t appear to be worthy of the attention of the MSM (main stream media):

https://facts4eu.org/news/2020_jan_b...anking_bonanza

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not too sure about that, they may well have been right,to suit their purpose?

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Michel Barnier has said that talks on a trade deal with the U.K. will not begin until March.
This is the man that has said there is not enough time to get trade deals sorted by the end of December....which is when we become free of the EU(we are still subject to the rules, regulations and laws until then...so though January 31st is said to be the day we leave, we don't)
There are also moves afoot in Davos to make the UK have a second referendum.....though I am not sure how they could force us to do anything....the leaders of this move are George Soros and Tony Blair

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Tony Blair? Isn't he just a richer & posher version of that shameful ex MP Graham Jones?

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yes Less...that'd be the one...and I cannot say who I dislike the least....think it is a close run thing...a sheet of Bronco event(how very apt)!

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Hilarious that the weasel, Bercow, has said that it has "become increasingly obvious that the government has no intention of honouring the centuries-old convention that a departing Speaker is promptly elevated to the House of Lords".
Wasn’t it the same Bercow who said that it was a good idea not to stick with Parliamentary conventions when he and his a Remoaner pals were trying to frustrate the Government?
Really hope the latest accusations of his bullying were made explicitly to give the government an excuse not to make the weasel a peer.

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This man is a chameleon when it comes to opinions...he changes it to suit his own purposes.
I hope he is proved to be a bully and that he never gets a peerage....in fact I wish that the House of Lords would be either abolished or slimmed down dramatically.
We should not be rewarding poor performance with a peerage.
He was the most biased Speaker in living history.
Jeremy Corbyn has nominated this creep for a peerage to stick two fingers up to the current government, as a Labour Leader who is standing down(or more realistically being removed)he should not nominate anyone from any other party.

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Both are crooks and traitors to their own countries....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...top-soros-laws

The Hungarians want to pass laws against him

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...n-project-fear
Interesting article....have a read.

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so much for project fear eh!

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Really it was called "Project Line yer own Pockets"

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Yes, and that is why they wanted to keep us in...and why they spent so much time scaremongering.
Even the IMF(which initially said we would 'bomb' financially) is now saying the U.K.growth will outstrip any of the EU economies.
There are companies from the EU who cannot wait to locate here.

Well, let's wait and see how it all pans out because there is many a slip(or a remoaner push)....though I am hoping that at last they have got the message.
This time next week we will have broken some of the bonds.

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Did do earlier this morning, the DE is my usual starting point for the day, I even venture onto their comments section under the pseudonym "English Exile DE", (far wider audience than AccyWeb, but much of the same opinons) gives me a chance for "Remainiac baiting" wicked individual that I am ...... Monstrous Fun though!

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The actual article was the Saturday Essay in the Daily Mail...so it was half inched from there.
I think it makes very illuminating reading, because few of the media portray leaving the EU as anything other than a disaster.
I don't know what happened to the 'can do ' spirit of this country.

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It is looking like Hungary and Poland are beginning to see sense. They of course want the benefits of the EU but when they see the cost that Brussels wants which is the dissipation and destruction of their own culture and nationhood they seem less keen on the idea.

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That & having to stump up by putting their hands in their own pockets to boot ....

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They're expecting the UK to have to pay some 'reparations' for the trouble we have caused by leaving the EU - otherwise they'll be expecting sunny Deutschland to stump up the shortfall.

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Coming into circulation on Friday is the new commemorative coin that notes our leaving the EU.
Michael Heseltine says we are rubbing remainers noses in it.
Alistair Campbell says he will not accept one of these in his change...he will hand it back and ask for two twenty pence coins and a ten pence coin
Lord Adonis has made a similar comment.
How petty, how childish they are.
None of them probably use cash anyway....but do they think that refusing this coin will have any effect on us leaving?
If they like the EU so much, then all of them have the ability to go and live in one of the EU countries.

On a different note, Daniel Hannah (MEP) says that three other countries will leave the EU in the 'foreseeable future'.....and he says that the Netherlands are favourite to be first of the three....he thinks Italy might be next(but he thinks that their exit will be because of the severe financial pressure they are being put under by the EU...he thinks they may 'crash out')

The EU is a failed, sclerotic organisation (though I use that term loosely)

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Heseltine,adonis, aqnd campbell, also any other Politico. should be completely removed from politics, if they cannot accept democracy even now.

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If they don't like the 50p's they can always give them to me