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Best thing is just ignore anyone who thinks his comments are racist, they are just idiots

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you used to have to be apretty vile person to be a racist

now anyone can be one without any effort at all for the most trivial reason

today you can be classed just as vile as the KKK who actually burned black people alive on crosses for merely suggesting that perhaps we are touch to generous to people looking for handouts

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Just to be clear: despite my observations above, I'm not calling anyone a racist, just making an observation about Ukip's seemingly limited policies. I also object to Health tourists etc., but I would only vote for a Party whose policies went beyond foreigners, immigration and the EU.

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Are you suggesting that you would only vote for a party that didn't have a policy, or perhaps even a failed policy, on "foreigners", immigration and the EU?

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Now you're not being fair!

He wants to blow up wind farms, legalize handguns, make friends with Putin, ban immigrants with HIV or TB, insist on people speaking English on trains, I could go on.
Oh, and allow smoking in 'smoking rooms' in pubs!
There, now you can vote for him! Sounds your sort of guy!

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i was sold at blowing up windfarms

what a crock of useless crap they are teh only thing they have proven to be good for is blocking tv signals

where do i apply to blow them up if hes elected :-)

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Er, no I am not suggesting that. Sorry if I gave that impression.

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Here you go young Michael, the U kippers festo for your perusal should you choose to have a peek, see, he's branching out, old people, schools, sticking it to the Jockeens & so on. ;)

UKIP Manifesto Summary - UKIP

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And if your dead set against the Nige, here's an overview of what the Bolixticians from across the spectrum are saying. There's definitely some scary suggestions in amongst all the blather! :eek:

Manifesto watch: Where parties stand on key issues - BBC News

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I found myself looking through that list and came to the conclusion that many of the things being proposed, used to be in place before successive governments started cutting this, that and the other.

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i dont think UKIP could do any worse of a job than either the tory or labour lot in fact i think it would do the country good to have UKIP in power even if only for 1 year and a new election was forced

it wont happen but it sure would liven politics up a lot and have i got news for you would be a whole lot more fun to watch

isnt it a shame that the two major parties have proven over and over again they are useless and greedy little criminals to the extent the option of anyone but them could be more palatable

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Excuse me? Little criminals? If any ordinary person swindled expenses the way all the parties elected did, they would still be getting free board and lodgings in Strangeways instead of their free second homes.

I'll believe in politics and politicians again when all the fraudsters are forced out and given the punishment they deserve rather than the blind eye that keeps them in power.

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problem is they investigate themselves then declare they dont have to be punished.They throw a few to the mercy of the press to show willing but protect the big boys and big hitters..

even if a MP goes to prison he or she can return to telling us how to live

at the very least you would expect a MP not to have a criminal record.You cant work a till at asda with a criminal conviction for theft but you can run the country

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the tories not all but david cameron the most dangerous party and person who wants to split the uk for their own ends a new low in politics.

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Are you getting Cameron and that mad fishy woman north of the border confused?

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Can you translate this to make some sort of sense?
Is it : The Tories, not all, but David Cameron....the most dangerous party(just a note to tell you that David Cameron is an individual who happens to be a member of the Tory Party) and person who wants to split the UK for their own ends.
A new low in Politics!

Is that how it should read?
If not then please let us know exactly what you mean.

If you do think that this is a new low in politics then you have a very short memory......there have been many 'lows' in politics.
If you have a couple of days to spare perhaps I could enlighten you on some of them.

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Oh Margaret what are you doing? Inviting him to put his half baked biases on site when you could be spending your time much more profitably just talking to trees.
:confused:

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He won't have the required time to spare Less...so I am not worried.

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he created the referendum to split the labour vote in Scotland .Scotland voted no so he created a lie about the snp lab pack which never in a million years would have happened after last year the only ones who kept mentioning it was the tories and snp and Murdoch

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You're being politically naive, cmon.

If it means he can get in No 10 for 5 years, Ed would form a pact with the Devil, the SNP will be no problem.
Lets be honest, if Cameron can get in No 10 for 5 years, he'll form a pact with the SNP!
They'll both say it's so they can have some control over the SNP, the SNP will say it's so they can have some control over whoever is in No 10.

This is politics, don't make the mistake of expecting them to behave by your standards or mine.

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Your posts still make little or no sense.
And you are as Gordon observes, very naive if you think the Liebour Party would not do,a deal with the SNP. They can never get enough seats to govern without some input from some other party......and even if they don't jump into bed with the SNP......they would still be reliant on piecemeal support.....and Nicola Sturgeon is ruthless enough to manipulate Ed Milliband to get her own agenda fulfilled.

Why on earth would anyone vote Liebour.
Would you give the captain of the Costa Concordia another ship to run onto the rocks?
No, of course you wouldn't.....so why would you let Liebour run the country when they cannot admit that they made major errors on the economy, immigration and they have no plans to offer the electorate a chance to determine their own future either in or out of the EU.

If elected they will have to make cuts, they would have to raise taxes......and they are just as duplicitous as the other parties....they have no intent to make life better for you and me....the Liebour party is exactly like all the others...they look after the rich supporters.
There is no socialist party.....Just paler shades of Tories.

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Eh???? It was Wee Eck, bumpin' his gums that wanted the referendum & "Freedom" for the Jockaneesies, he got shown his totty wee hairy arse & now the scion of Salmond, the wee ginger tom Sturgeon is carrying the torch although she won't openly admit it. Or am I missing something here? :confused:

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You haven't got a clue what happened in the referendum last year no way there will be any deals with the separatists how many times does ed milliband have to say it . David cameron didn't need to have a referendum the Scottish parliament didn't have the powers . He likes to divide and conquer just like the division he tried to create with going on about a referendum about europe . That backfired with the emergence of ukip whose leader is married to a german with a french name the irony lol you are being politically naive politics has changed beyond recognition the tories have cteated unstabilty just what murdoch wants and is running scared because ed wants to bring in media laws about ownership.

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And the polls are wrong about the snp as they haven't made room for tactical voting that is going to happen. Tories are voting labour labour are voting tory and everybody is voting lib dem in the appropriate constituencies don't believe the murdoch press

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So..what is your answer..what will you do to effect a change?

It's all too easy to snipe at someone who has convictions, no matter how misguided and simplistic, without offering an alternative.

It's also so easy to say 'they are all the same'..and write 'none of the above' on your ballot paper....which the official counter just chucks in the 'shows how wasted magna carta, suffragettes, WW1 & 2 was' bin without giving your opinion a second thought.

I'm a socialist..but i'm voting for an ultra right UKIP...

Why?....send me a PM asking why a Labour run LCC is enforcing cuts to private sector social care whilst ploughing money into LCC social care

Or...why a Labour run Hyndburn council ( many of whom are related/close friends) feel that they can get some councillor living in Rishton deciding its best to move a war memorial in Huncoat regardless of public feeling (oh wait..this is what his leader is doing over the EU)..

You really need to put your 'X' where it 'MAY' count

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Ed did admit about mistakes on immigration in the last labour government but at least we had a uk border agency in place ready to expand what did the tories do? They sacked most of them off , so you get more official immigration and even more unofficial immigration because there is nobody to police it. I retiterate no deals with the separatists no way the separatists up here call labour the red tories when they are more tory than anybody.

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Ooh er Matron, really!!! :eek: :D

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I freely admit that I do not have the answer.
I am not alone in this.
I am not politically apathetic. I do not vote traditionally for a particular party....I have no political allegiance.
If I am going to award my vote to someone it has got to be because I believe that they have the interest of the country and the common man at the heart of what they do.
That they respect the person who gave them their vote....?Not that they think we(the electorate) haven't got the brains to work things out, to read, to research.
I do not give my vote easily or without thought.

You think I am sniping at C'mon......it would be good if we could understand what his posts mean.....but the way he posts leaves much to assumption and guesswork.....all because he doesn't punctuate his posts.

Come Thursday I will take myself down to the polling station and I will do what my conscience permits me to do.
The Magna Carta and all the other historical stuff you quote allows me the freedom of choice....it means that, if I wish to, I can withhold my vote.
That is what freedom allows....a choice.

You believe in democracy?
It is a mythical beast. If voting changed anything they would stop us from doing it.
All the political parties know that once elected they can do pretty much what they want for a period of five years....and the electorate can do burger all about it.

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Vote for somebody who will put their political career at risk for the good of the country.

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I would if I could think of one!

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Me too!
They all appear to be in politics for what they can do to improve their own life, rather than improving the country.
Whatever happens I will not be voting for Ed Millibands crew.

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Virtually impossible these days.:rolleyes:

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ed milliband has . he has said no deal with the separatists even if it means he is not pm. I believe him . Cameron hasn't ruled out a coalition with anybody . make your own judgement. the snp were in coalition with the tories in the Scottish parliament . they kept this quiet didn't they. Rupert Murdoch and his laccies are running scared , ed is bringing in competition laws which will affect news international this is the reason murdochs interests are attacking milliband like no one before.

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The thing is,what he says and what he does are different things.
There will be no party with enough seats to govern without the input of other parties.
As things go it is looking increasingly likely that the Labour Party will lose lots of seats in Scotland.....and even if Ed does not jump into bed with the SNP party, it is inevitable that they will have influence...And their agenda is not one which is going to be beneficial to England.
The SNP will be as obstructive as possible......so it would be crazy to vote for Labour, bearing this in mind.
Nicola Sturgeon has said quite clearly that it will be the SNP pulling the strings if labour are elected.

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i keep telling you the cybernats have hijacked every poll and the Murdoch press are attacking labour but on the ground its not the same story. just like Murdoch and his cronies said it was a yes vote win in the referendum. he is trying to rig it again as he wants to weaken the uk for his own ends. there will be no deals with the snp they can vote how they want but labour will not have anything to do with them .they have burnt their bridges big time up here with their intimidation and thickness. you are falling into the tories and Murdoch press trap.

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I cant believe you have fell for sturgeons blag no deal , no co-operation nothing to do with them how many times does ed milliband have to say it.

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If yeh think Ed or Cameron wont jump into bed wi anyone, to give em clout, then yeh have just reached a new level in stupidity cmon, one i didn't think possible.

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You've got me puzzled, cmon.
Various independent polls show the SNP has a massive lead, the Murdoch papers don't do the polls, they just publish them.
And yet you have your feet on the ground up there so should know the groundswell of opinion better than us down here in civilization.
Are you saying the polls are all wrong or are you, perhaps, only talking to those with opinions similar to yours so getting an optimistic view of the voting pattern?
Either way we'll soon know, then it will get interesting!

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The only poll that really means anything is the one on Thursday.
There will be NO party with enough seats to govern....so who ever gets in, they are going to need the support of a smaller party.....and if Labour get in....and the lib dems lose a lot of seats then, to be able to get legislation passed, they will rely on not being blocked by the SNP.....and they cannot rely on that.

I do not believe anything a politician tells me..if they told me it was day I would look out of my window to make sure.
Why is this? Because all the parties have lied to us......manifesto's, promises mean nothing when you know they have five years to do what they want.

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He can tell me until his dying breath...I don't believe him!

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because the snp have a huge online army rigging everything to their ends remember the referendum when the polls said the yes vote were 25% in the lead . it never happened why would the no voters change their mind. there is a campaign of tactical voting up here but it is never mentioned in the press. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10221377.html

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Looks like you guys are on track for a minority government ... something that happens often over here. Don't knock it; you might get to like it:D It keeps the governing party fairly honest; and important stuff still gets done.

Talking about tories ... just to keep on topic;) ... there is, for those interested in politics in general and not just the insular stuff, an interesting general election coming up next week in the Province of Alberta ... that's the place where all the oil and all the rednecks are. The tories have held power in Alberta for 44 years! But, from the polls, it seems as if the voters in Alberta are starting to lean away from them; and they don't seem to be leaning to the right ... that would be to the Wild Rose Party, Alberta's equivalent of the Tea Party. They just might give Labor (NDP) a chance.

If I were a voter over there, I would vote Labour as a matter of principle. Putting the tories back into power would result in the loss, or at least the gutting, of all the social programs that were fought for in the last century. Maybe it's time to put the EU referendum on the back burner for a while. Not because I think that the EU is a good idea for any country; but because it looks like it will fall to pieces if it is left alone. Kinda like what happened in the old Soviet Union. What was it that Elliott wrote about whimpers and bangs?;)

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Eddie Izzard and Jim Murphy Labour rally cut short amid angry scenes | Scotland Decides this is the true face of the separatists

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This is why you should vote labour they single handidly saved the union when the tories and murdoch were devisive . David cameron is a traitor to the union.Private Eye Street Of Shame: Rupert and his wayward twin Suns

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But look at what was the USSR is now - ruled by oligarchs & criminals. The haves and the have nots - I wouldn't wish their form of "government" on my worst enemies - well perhaps I could think of a few:rolleyes:

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I don't think I can vote for the Labour Party.
Our candidate is one who implies that we haven't got the mentality to decide what is right for us when it comes to a vote on membership of the EU.
I also do not want that Nicola Sturgeon to be pulling the strings regarding policy for England....And taking us to the cleaners so that Scotland can live high on the hog while we foot the bill.
It also concerns me that giving the country to the two Eds......would be like giving the captain of the Costa Concordia another vessel to run onto the rocks......no sense in it.
I might just have to put my hand over the Labour Party candidate and make a blind stab at the others.....I am sure I will not be alone in feeling this way.

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I realise that this should probably be in another section, but it does fit in with recent posts in this thread - apologies if I upset anyone.

Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister’s chauffeur driven car.
Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road. They hit it full on and the car comes to a stop.
Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur : " You get out and check - you were driving."
The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead.
" You were driving, go and tell the farmer," says Nicola, ”I can’t afford to be blamed for anything.”
The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face.
" My God, what happened to you ?" asks Nicola.
The chauffeur replies : " When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap - up meal and the daughter made love to me."
" What on earth did you say?" asks Nicola.
" I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I'm Nicola Sturgeon’s chauffeur and I've just killed the cow."

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Sorry to kill your joke:) but sturgeon is flying about scotland in a helicopter rumours are murdoch is paying for it

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Just seen a great Labour Party Political Broadcast By Steve Coogan, reckon they should get the guy in the Government if they win on Thursday.

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Well he'd blend in with all the other comedians who'll be in Government,whichever party!

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Thing was hes more believable than those *******.;)

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Well, I only saw a couple of minutes of the broadcast, but that he seemed to imply that the Labour Party would look after the working man is laughable......these politicians know nothing of the difficulties of the working man.....when Steve Coogan was growing up, the Labour Party was for the working man.....but not anymore.
They are just a paler version of conservatism.....they pay lip service to looking after the vulnerable.....I do not believe anything that they say.
These people at the top of all the political parties are career politicians.....educated in public schools, with handsome incomes and lifestyles.....they live in a different world altogether.....and they are not interested in what concerns the electorate.

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Strangely enough, I once had Russell Brand in the back of the Vip plane I fly about in. Very man of the people

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But i bet he paid for it. Im not against people getting on in life making money im against the multinationals who don't pay the right tax thus having an advantage against the normal businesses who pay their tax.

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If you are going to try and make it look like you know what you're talking about at least get the name of the company you are referring to right. News International doesn't exist any more

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Russell Brand is a hypocrite. He uses off shore facilities to avoid paying taxes in this country......OK you say.....This is legal...And yes it is, but if people like him paid what their dues were, then there would be more money to spend on the things that he is banging on about....social welfare.
This man was telling folk not to vote until quite recently....many of those who follow him may not have registered to vote.
This will be especially true if they are at Uni, as there have been changes to the regulations, the last day to register to vote was April 20th......so now he is asking them to vote Labour and they will not be able to because the listened to his first bit of advice.
Russell Brand is a talentless self publicist(and that is the kindest thing I can say about him) anyone who listens to him and follows his advice is deluded.

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Get a life:rolleyes:

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No :p

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Nice to see your opinions here. Thanks for sharing.

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If we had a flat percentage based income tax system where everyone paid the same percent of their income maybe people like him wouldn't feel they were being ripped off and look at ways to reduce income tax.

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Good idea Neil, sadly it would never work as it's fair.

It is intresting that we reward hard work and people trying to better themselves with higher income tax bands.

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Ah the Tories (yawn)....


....Vote peasants vote,it's that time of year again when politicians actually give a flying what you think.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing the results (entertainment purposes only) truth is nothing will change,the same people who have power now (elite landowners) will have power on Friday but don't forget to try and change it as "your vote matters" :D

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Ahh remember labour are bringing in the mansion tax on your rich landowners.

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After 44 years in power Alberta's tories are booted out.:eek: What was Canada's most conservative province votes Labour ... well, NDP; same thing. Democracy can work ... real change can happen. Get out and vote folks.:D

Alberta election 2015 results: NDP wave sweeps across province in historic win - CBC News | Elections Alberta

And to make it an even better nite for folks in Alberta, the Flames beat the Ducks:alright:

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I didn't think they were in season yet? :D

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Over here would that be " Labour " or " New Labour " ( aka Conservative ) ? :rolleyes:

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More like "Labour" than what you have. But the NDP grew up in rural Canada ... Saskatchewan to be exact. However, in industrial areas of Canada, it quickly won support among the working class. It's still the party of the little guy ... still left of center. One reason for their lack of success in Federal elections (altho' they do form Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition) is that a lot of folks over here vote strategically. Many who would be comfortable voting NDP have voted Liberal (a lot like the LibDems) in order to defeat the tories. One reason why this victory is so important for us is that this is a Federal election year. If progressive voters line up with the New Democrats, the Harper tories could be the next set of right-wing sonsabitches to be awarded the Grand Order of the Boot.:D Good question by the way.

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Has anyone had any leaflets through the door from the LibDems? They seem to have kept a low profile in Hyndburn throughout the campaign. I believe their candidate lives in Manchester, so maybe she couldn't be bothered to make an effort.

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Why bother when your party's as popular as herpes! :eek: ;)

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I bet more folk will catch herpes tomorrow than will vote for her so, I reckon the above should read:-


Why bother when your party's less popular than herpes! :eek: ;

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Well, it appears they'll be taking the country "forward" for the foreseeable future ....... joy of joys! :rolleyes:

Think I'll be staying in Krautyland a while longer.

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I think that the prospect of Nicola Sturgeon pulling Ed's strings was a major turn off.
It certainly put the heebie jeebies up me.
I went and voted but not with the aim of putting in power someone I could identify with, but more to put a block on the party i didn't want to see in power.

It doesn't really matter who is in power, none of them are interested in the likes of you and me.
They will do what is best for themselves.

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I think the ordinary working people,that voted Tory will get exactly what they deserved in this next term.:rolleyes:

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Why would anyone pick on such a small minority as workers?

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I think the Labour Party need to return to it's roots and speak up far more for the working folk. Over recent years there has not much difference between them and the Tories. Alex Salmon whipping the Scottish people up did no favours for Labour either. If there had not been a referendum things might have been different. The Labour Party now need a new leader, someone who has a strong character who can rally the troops ready for a good fight in 5 years time.Ah well I can live in hope even if I die in despair.

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Whilst that is certainly so Margaret, The fact remains that if the SNP were non-existent, Labour would still be well behind the Torys, and they would still have won!! To me the biggest factor is the damage Labour have done to ordinary people, by a refusal to listen. Which they have done for too long now, n an elephant never forgets.

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Yes Cashy, I think you are right.
But in actual fact no party has listened to the concerns of the electorate.
The politicians all think they know what is best for us.......and voting makes no difference to what will happen.
The 'New' Labour party was just the Tory party in sheep's clothing, but those who follow the party slavishly cannot (or perhaps will not) see this.
There is no true socialism any more (certainly not as we knew it anyway, maybe this is because now all the politicians have never done a real job of work.......but some(I did say some) supporters of the Labour party would vote for a donkey as long as it was wearing a Labour rosette.

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Perhaps if the Labour Party could take the massive step to be more socialist and it were possible to take privatised industries back in to public ownership so that they were run for the good and benefit of us all instead of the wealthy shareholders they would appeal to more folk.Margaret is right they have been the Tories in sheep's clothing in recent years.It is certainly time for them to make radical changes and put far more distance between themselves and the Tories before the next General Election.

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The reason being as i have said on numerous occasions, is the I'm all right jack society, that Thatcher created, and sadly it will never likely be reversed.:( Thats why Labour became what they are today, they sadly had little choice.:eek:

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Little choice or not enough backbone?

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I think it is unlikely that they will be able to revert to what was a socialist party....and I can't see how they can take privatised industries back into public ownership and make them profitable.

They (and to be fair, other parties too) have lost a massive amount of trust.

They are where they are by their own hand...by not taking seriously the problems of immigration(this was social engineering at its worst because the impact had not been thought through), worries about jobs, the welfare state, the NHS (many hospitals are in dire financial difficulty not just through ineffective management, but because of the PFI that was instituted by Labour) the creeping control that the EU is seeming to have on all aspects of our daily life.
None of these issues has been taken seriously by any party.

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Little choice its that simple, they could never have won n election otherwise.;)

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Well I for one hope the Labour Party does now elect a strong leader now Miliband has resigned and that they change enough to get enough seats in 5 yrs time to form a government and they keep the Red Flag flying.

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I agree100% wi that view, sadly i doubt if it will ever be able to happen.:eek:

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don't be holding your breath on that one!

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Hub caps safe for a while longer then?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck1mWPFWv2E This is the main reason Labour lost in my view, I will probably be called racist fer this, They have no concept of what ordinary people fear.

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Since when was it racist to speak the truth?

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Since the do-gooding knobheads came on the scene Margaret.;)

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Is it any different from the Muslim extremist cleric telling Muslims that if they vote they are committing a sin?

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I think that what did it for the Labour vote was the spectre of Nicola Sturgeon directing the political agenda.
Already this odious woman is issuing warnings to David Cameron....that didn't take long did it?

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Racist?
Or realist?

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Definitely realist!

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Staying with realism, I think c'mon had better start filling in his forms for non-dom residential permission, make sure his passport is up to date or move back to Accy.

He'll soon be living in a foreign country.

I wouldn't be surprised if a Lancashire accent in Glasgow or wherever he lives could soon get you unwelcome attention!

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I think it's time c'mon realised that if labour was still the workers party the Scots would still be voting for them.

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So is it a case of better "the devil you know" ???

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By the number of seats they lost by,having the 56 the SNP won would make no difference to the winners, its that simple to me.;)

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have Scottish labour MPs been put on the endangered species list yet ... ?

which poor sod is going to have to monitor the breeding program for them ?

I heard the Pandas are feeling less of a minority now

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Hopefully, one of the first Bills to be passed in the new parliament will be one that prevents Scots MPs from voting on matters that are nothing to do with Scotland also that the Barnet Formula be thrown into File 13 (Waste Bin) there should be the same per capita spending throughout the UK & NI

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I don't see why you guys are so worried about what's going on in Scotland. In another 10 years or so, the SNP will be in history's dustbin along with the Bloc Quebecois, who are there already.:D There is more chance of England's winning the World Cup than there is of the SNP ever amounting to much more than an irritating pimple on the asshole of history.