Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1079088)

I think it was C18/Bed 18 Jay but I am trying to erase those memories from the archive:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1079132)

What is Health Line?
Is it a variation of NHS direct or is it the dreaded 111 number you call for emergencies that are not considered 999 calls.
If it is the 111 number, then it does not echo my experiences of it.
I spent one of the most frustrating (and scary) days of my life -( and I do not scare easily)trying to get someone to come out and look at my seriously ill daughter on one of the hottest days of the year.
It took 8 hours for someone to take me seriously. I was passed around from pillar to post, from nurse to doctor, back to nurse...and in the end I rang the hospital ward and it was they who organised an ambulance.
My daughter was then admitted and needed 7 litres of fluid to rehydrate her( and IV meds to stop her from being sick) It was a nightmare.

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1079195)

Follow up to the old dear who was finally given a bed after their records showed she was dead....

Discharged at 1pm..needed a hoist to get her into a wheelchair....hoist could not be found until 6.44pm (sole communication from BRH at 4.23pm 'we can't find an available hoist')

Old dear is doubly incontinent, has osteoporosis and learning difficulties. At 6.44 she would have been a mess if left to NHS care.

How do I know this?...because her carer was with her throughout....she was unpaid throughout..she stayed because she has a bond and she cared...

And thats what this nasty Cameron 'big society' government relies on, ordinary people taking up the slack (because they care), without pay (because they care) so that he can make money for his cronies (who don't give a monkey's as long as they can fuel their yachts).

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1079647)

I think if you are going to copy & paste something, you should at least give the credit to the person who wrote it by posting a link.

Political Parties ? NOT all as bad as each other | kittysjones

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079648)

yep that's the one I thought I had left the link in. lets debate the content.. ive been checking every policy and its true so lets debate what the tories have brought in,and how much money they have wasted .like George Osborne taking the European commission to court with taxpayers money to help out his hedge fund banker associates .

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079655)

every government since 1690 has been dipping into pensions.
Proof please.......I'm sure you will find something to cover it in your cut and paste library
it was Europe who brought in mass immigration and it started before 1997 when the tories were in.
The government were incharge of the Border Agency...they had absolutely no idea how many people came into this country......and they still don't.
Ed Balls has also admitted that Labour got the immigration policy wrong, and that they did not listen to the concerns of the electorate.

just like now if your Chinese your in.
I wonder if you are referring to the relaxation of Tourist Visa Regulation for chinese tourists...not migrants.

that's a bit of discrimination lol..we all know its because they are lending £800,000,000 for the Manchester project and they want their own tradesmen in on the cheap to make a quick buck..

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1079654)

Don't lie, you deliberately worded your opening sentence as if it was your work, also you have put so many links on site you would know if you had put the link in or as is obvious deliberately omitted it.
:mad:

don't judge me with your own values :D I did mean to leave it on but must have took it off when I took the rest of the bumff off

Still, thank's to gpick we now have a link so it saves you copying and pasting the second part of it as if that was also your work.

I hope the owner of the copyright sues your ass, but takes into consideration that it isn't the sites fault that you are a thief!
:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079660)

you cant sue for whats in the public domain and the truth;) plus the writer has given everybody permission to repeat and share..

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079641)

people keep mentioning labour on this thread ill put my mention in;)
What LABOUR Achieved whilst in Government:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079732)

labour lobbied for this;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079732)

labour lobbied for this;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079786)

here comes another U-turn;) Care cost u-turn: Elderly and vulnerable WILL be forced to sell their homes to fund care - Mirror Online

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079830)

on this thread and other threads ive debated my case with facts and figures with the replies of your talking rubbish just because it doesn't suit other peoples agendas and ideology. I cut and paste to back up my theories. like one theory everytime the tories are in power your standard of living falls;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079830)

on this thread and other threads ive debated my case with facts and figures with the replies of your talking rubbish just because it doesn't suit other peoples agendas and ideology. I cut and paste to back up my theories. like one theory everytime the tories are in power your standard of living falls;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079843)

when labour are in the standard of living for the working class rises fact;) you know im right give me the facts figures and statistics to prove otherwise...

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1079851)

And what did the ONS say when Labour were in the hot seat...presiding over a train wreck of the economy....allowing unfettered borrowing to support this standard of living you are banging on about(I certainly didn't notice a rise in my standard of living - maybe that was because dear Gordon doubled my tax bill)....what was it Gordon said 'No more Boom and Bust'...and let me think who was it said 'there's no money left'
Who was it put the useless FSA in to monitor the practices of the banks?

Politicians? Parties? They are all the same. Not in it for what they can do for you and me, they could n't give two hoots about us...just in it to make money for themselves and to jump on the gravy train when their time at the POW is over.

They tell us what they think we want to hear but do absolutely nothing about the problems that the country is battling. Words...just words...they mean nothing without positive and decisive action.
We haven't got a man in any political party that has the gumption and the cojones it takes to be a leader.

Take off those red tinted specs and look around...the parties(all of them in equal measure) are guilty for the mess this country is in.

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079855)

well he raised my and countless other workers standard of living.

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1079864)

I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet Margaret.

Personally I don't count this government as a 'true' coalition, since the libdems have sold their souls for a few cabinet positions and have very little say on anything important. Cameron and co just throw them a few scraps of fatty mince from time to time which Clegg thinks is beluga caviar. :D

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1079904)

which share holders?
Wind turbines only make money for the landowners where they are sited...they are not effective in generating power and they are certainly not generating affordable power.

Having cheaper energy would benefit the lives of so many people, especially those on low incomes....much of their expenditure goes on energy costs.

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079849)

but that's where your wrong remember this BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories 'to match Labour spending' ;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079895)

I remember this Gordon Brown's historic trade deal with China - Telegraph

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079895)

I remember this Gordon Brown's historic trade deal with China - Telegraph

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080072)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080120)

but it tells the truth;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080120)

but it tells the truth;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080126)

So the tories say they are great for Britain standing in front of a union jack they say they are Britain. Maggie thatcher should now be known as a traitor in history, as she sold us down the river. nuclear power stations in Britain will be 100% owned by the Chinese government who are supposed to be communist. ha ha you couldn't make it up. it just shows they are just in it for the money . we had infrastructure which was the envy of the world. We could have raised revenue from these to pay off our debts. What did Thatcher do ,yes she sold them in a jumble sale . we were the most respected country in the world the Chinese ,the Americans loved it, wanting to buy red buses, red phone boxes ,red royal mail vans ,our taxis and even our bridges. What have we got left now? nothing. half the government are now serco, crapita etc we have nothing left we don't even recruit our own soldiers now that's up to another hedge fund firm:confused: . ye thatcher and her supporters said it would create competition yes competition to raise the most money ,competition to be the biggest rip off . we had it and we sold it .The tory answer is to ply the banks with money to lend and even right it off .Is this not what caused the credit bubble which exploded in 2007. They are clueless as our debts go more out of control than ever yes keep believing the rubbish that they are paying it off they are borrowing more to pay it off and still blaming the last government who gave us a decent standard of living whether you like it or not the facts the statistics are there.. where does this leave us? In more debt than we have ever been in. Do you think the Chinese are doing this for nothing we are borrowing off them and they are still going to own the power stations 100% what happens in the future when the Chinese leadership changes to a more fundamentalist government.

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080132)

the truth hurts eh;) everything ive put on there is true. tell one thing on there that is not true.

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080132)

the truth hurts eh;) everything ive put on there is true. tell one thing on there that is not true.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1080140)

Do you actually think any body reads the dribble you post on here, save all the keyboard work, which you ain't that good at anyway, and just put in the link, its just as easy to ignore a link as all the diatribe you post, and more important it will save web space too

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080212)

but you know its the truth we have been sold down the river by the tories. our childrens children will be bemused why did we do this. this is going to have very bad consequences . one of our major competitors owns us . so our future is going to be zero hours part time hours while we rent our houses from foreign hedge funds .

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080072)

so the tories say we are great for Britain standing behind a union jack Maggie thatcher should now be known as a traitor in history as she sold us down the river. nuclear power stations in Britain will be 100% owned by the Chinese government who are supposed to be communist ha ha you couldn't make it up. it just shows they are just in it for the money . we had infrastructure which could have raised revenue to pay off our debts what id thatcher do yes she sold them in a jumble sale . we were the most respected country in the world the Chinese ,the americans loved it wanting to buy red buses, red phone boxes red royal mail vans . what have we got now nothing half the government are now serco, crapita etc we have nothing left we don't even recruit our own soldiers now that's up to another hedge fund firm:confused: . ye thatcher and her supporters it will create competition yes competition to raise the most money competition to be the biggest rip off . we had it and we it up .there answer is to ply the banks with money to lend and even right it off .is this not what caused the credit bubble which exploded in 2007 they are clueless as our debts go more out of control than ever yes keep believing the rubbish that they are paying it off they are borrowing more to pay it off and still blaming the last government who gave us a decent standard of living whether you like it or not the facts the statistics are there.. where does this leave us? in more debt than we have ever been in do you think the Chinese are doing this for nothing we are borrowing off them and they are still going to own the power stations 100% what happens in the future when the Chinese leadership changes to a more fundamentalist government. this is the biggest threat to our future ever... Nuclear expert raises concerns about Chinese role in UK's new nuclear plants | Environment | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1080262)

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I don't particularly want nuclear energy as there's a problem disposing of the radioactive material. We used to put it into drums and drop them into the ocean until we discovered the sea was becoming radioactive due to the metal drums corroding.
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Why don't you accuse the thousands of British people who bought shares in the nationalised industries of being traitors? I'd like to point out that when British people bought shares in British owned nationalised industries, the first thing most of them did was sell them on the open market - not very patriotic I would suggest.
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1080315)

Could we have a link that shows the waste was dumped in barrels into the sea?

As for your second thought, people were offered shares they bought them, they then did exactly what the money men and good old Maggy the thatcher expected, they sold them because they needed the money, it must have made a fortune for those that already had a fortune.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1080315)

Could we have a link that shows the waste was dumped in barrels into the sea.

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1080458)

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I can't find the TV newsreel stills which (1) showed barrels being rolled off the ships and then (2) several years later underwater cameras showed bubbles escaping from barrels and (3) barrels being recovered.
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I know we now search for deep caves in suitable rock to dispose of our nuclear waste but I see from surfing the web that other countries have comparatively recently been dumping their waste into the sea - Russia and other countries being named.

However, I have found a Sheffield website which depicts some rusting metal barrels Glass offers improved means of storing UK?s nuclear waste - News releases - News - The University of Sheffield
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I was shocked to see this article in a 2009 BBC report:- <<BBC News, Italy http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/999999.gif
A shipwreck apparently containing toxic waste is being investigated by authorities in Italy amid claims that it was deliberately sunk by the mafia.
An informant from the Calabrian mafia said the ship was one of a number he blew up as part of an illegal operation to bypass laws on toxic waste disposal.
The sunken vessel has been found 30km (18 miles) off the south-west of Italy.
The informant said it contained "nuclear" material. Officials said it would be tested for radioactivity.>>

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080501)

I see the suicide bombing has started in Syria. I wonder if William hague still wants the uk to arm the Syrian rebels:confused:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080531)

:D im not a postman;)

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1080494)

So, you've no actual proof?
Just hearsay and propaganda?
You believe this to be true so expect everyone else to take your word for it?
You may have seen a documentary of barrels thrown into the sea, or not, that does not make them barrels of nuclear waste, they would need many barrels and if they where so careless, do you really think they would allow a BBC team to document it?

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1080458)

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I can't find the TV newsreel stills which (1) showed barrels being rolled off the ships and then (2) several years later underwater cameras showed bubbles escaping from barrels and (3) barrels being recovered.
..
I know we now search for deep caves in suitable rock to dispose of our nuclear waste but I see from surfing the web that other countries have comparatively recently been dumping their waste into the sea - Russia and other countries being named.

However, I have found a Sheffield website which depicts some rusting metal barrels Glass offers improved means of storing UK?s nuclear waste - News releases - News - The University of Sheffield
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I was shocked to see this article in a 2009 BBC report:- <<BBC News, Italy http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/999999.gif
A shipwreck apparently containing toxic waste is being investigated by authorities in Italy amid claims that it was deliberately sunk by the mafia.
An informant from the Calabrian mafia said the ship was one of a number he blew up as part of an illegal operation to bypass laws on toxic waste disposal.
The sunken vessel has been found 30km (18 miles) off the south-west of Italy.
The informant said it contained "nuclear" material. Officials said it would be tested for radioactivity.>>

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1080262)

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I don't particularly want nuclear energy as there's a problem disposing of the radioactive material. We used to put it into drums and drop them into the ocean until we discovered the sea was becoming radioactive due to the metal drums corroding.
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Why don't you accuse the thousands of British people who bought shares in the nationalised industries of being traitors? I'd like to point out that when British people bought shares in British owned nationalised industries, the first thing most of them did was sell them on the open market - not very patriotic I would suggest.
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080850)

the pressure is on david Cameron . he got ripped a new one today ;) PMQs: David Cameron Mocked By Ed Miliband And Slapped Down By John Bercow

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1081024)

Aye but who's feeling the benefit? no beggar i know.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1081013)

Surprises me that you haven't commented on the best economic figures for 3 years, ho sorry you only run the country down;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1081070)

that wouldn't be hard ;) doing a wee bit of research just now so cant comment till ive studied the full statistics ;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1081219)

im not the one whos head leans to one side lol:D

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1082060)

who remembers when the tories came out and said there will be a bond of £3,000 pound to high risk overseas visitors. who do the tories think are high risk overseas visitors, how would they implement it with no staff? oh yes thats it when we start our propaganda machine off this sunday we will change our mind the plebs wont notice ;) BBC News - Visitor bond scheme to be scrapped by government