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cmonstanley 21-02-2013 21:48

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:D:D:D but seriously how can osborne say he will be tough on tax evaders then they publish a hairdressers name.

cmonstanley 22-02-2013 04:46

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another flagship tory policy MPs blast government's flagship Work Programme | Society | The Guardian ian duncan smith failed politician lol

jaysay 22-02-2013 08:15

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 1043199)
Stop acting like you've come across some big conspiracy its politics.

Quite agree, politics has always been a two side affair those in power are wrong those in opposition are right or so some would have us believe;)

jaysay 22-02-2013 08:18

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1043234)
another flagship tory policy MPs blast government's flagship Work Programme | Society | The Guardian ian duncan smith failed politician lol

Think its time to change your screen name from C'mon to Lord Ho Ho or maybe Lord Ha Ha would go better with everything you post on here, or topping that what about One Theme Wonder:rolleyes:

Eric 22-02-2013 14:43

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Monster raving loony party?

Loved those parties ... we even have them here. The Prince Edward Island Draft Beer Party is now, alas, defunct, but the Fed-Up Party (also known as the FU:D), led by Ed the Sock, still seems to be in business.

Didn't that bitch Thatcher try to get rid of the "frivolous" parties?

Maybe C'mon should start his own party: the POT Party, a one-trick pony party dedicated to Peeing Off Tories with mindless comments floating like morning toast on an endless river of links. This would attract the stoners who would be confused by the name (as well as most other things;)); so, they would probably win some elections, hopefully for the EU Parliament. On the other side could be the "13 Party" ... membership open only to those with an IQ of 13 or less.:D

Guinness 22-02-2013 14:46

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043296)
On the other side could be the "13 Party" ... membership open only to those with an IQ of 13 or less.:D

Already been tried..it's called Parliament :)

Barrie Yates 22-02-2013 16:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043244)
Quite agree, politics has always been a two side affair those in power are wrong those in opposition are right or so some would have us believe;)

But the ones in opposition very rarely change the things they complain of when they eventually become the government:confused:

jaysay 22-02-2013 17:16

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043296)
Loved those parties ... we even have them here. The Prince Edward Island Draft Beer Party is now, alas, defunct, but the Fed-Up Party (also known as the FU:D), led by Ed the Sock, still seems to be in business.

Didn't that bitch Thatcher try to get rid of the "frivolous" parties?

Maybe C'mon should start his own party: the POT Party, a one-trick pony party dedicated to Peeing Off Tories with mindless comments floating like morning toast on an endless river of links. This would attract the stoners who would be confused by the name (as well as most other things;)); so, they would probably win some elections, hopefully for the EU Parliament. On the other side could be the "13 Party" ... membership open only to those with an IQ of 13 or less.:D

Ya Eric you could be the honorary life president of that party mate:D

jaysay 22-02-2013 17:19

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1043313)
But the ones in opposition very rarely change the things they complain of when they eventually become the government:confused:

Exactly Barrie that has always been the case, the reason being in opposition talking is cheap, they can say what they want, promise what they want, then do absolutely nothing when they get the chance

cmonstanley 22-02-2013 19:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043245)
Think its time to change your screen name from C'mon to Lord Ho Ho or maybe Lord Ha Ha would go better with everything you post on here, or topping that what about One Theme Wonder:rolleyes:

well the billions are wasted due to ideology Work Programme Cost More Jobs Than It Has Created, Say MPs

jaysay 22-02-2013 19:16

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1043367)
well the billions are wasted due to ideology Work Programme Cost More Jobs Than It Has Created, Say MPs

We know you can put links on here, now go away and swat up on your grammar, there's a good little boy;)

Eric 22-02-2013 19:28

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043326)
Ya Eric you could be the honorary life president of that party mate:D

What? The FU? I'd vote for them.:D

There is a Marijuana Party of Canada/Parti Marijuana du Canada (if you are in Quebec;)). But most of it's supporters have joined the mainstream parties and are working from within those parties to decriminalize simple possession. They tend to be left of centre on most issues; but they are still well within the mainstream.

DaveinGermany 22-02-2013 19:38

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043376)
There is a Marijuana Party of Canada/Parti Marijuana du Canada (if you are in Quebec;)).

Grass routes, politics then ? :rolleyes:

Eric 22-02-2013 19:41

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043381)
Grass routes, politics then ? :rolleyes:

Damn right! I often think of myself as a budding politician.;)

DaveinGermany 22-02-2013 19:54

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043382)
Damn right! I often think of myself as a budding politician.;)

What position ? Head of herbage, Minister for Ales, or some kind of hybrid position of both ? :D

cmonstanley 22-02-2013 20:36

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this is still cracking me up:D:D n01 tax dodger in the tories eyes is a hairdresser

With this tax dodger list the Revenue shames only itself | Marina Hyde | Comment is free | The Guardian

Eric 22-02-2013 20:54

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043386)
What position ? Head of herbage, Minister for Ales, or some kind of hybrid position of both ? :D

Sounds like a lot of work ... you know, a guy might have to show up at the office sober and straight every now and again:D ... Better off in the Senate (kinda like the Lords) ... hang out in Ottawa for a few weeks ... spend the rest of the year on a fully funded fact finding mission in Jamaica:theband:

cmonstanley 22-02-2013 21:12

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We know you can put links on here, now go away and swat up on your grammar, there's a good little boy;)

you crack me up:D:D you know you cant defend the undefensible so you come out with jayisms lol but seriously you dont think this ideology hasnt cost billions of wasted taxpayers money to give the shareholder a profit.it has been extortion in suits.look at network rail theyve paid the railway companies billions when their trains have been late due to flooding etc.

cmonstanley 22-02-2013 21:41

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heres another failed politician will he resign,now we have lost our triple aaa credit rating .the tories are really cocking this country up.cant blame labour for this;):tongueout

DaveinGermany 22-02-2013 22:38

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043395)
Sounds like a lot of work ... you know, a guy might have to show up at the office sober and straight every now and again:D

When did they sneak that rule in ??? :D

Eric 22-02-2013 23:53

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043419)
When did they sneak that rule in ??? :D

Beats me. Seems a little strange, though, considering our first PM, Sir John Eh Macdonald, was a legendary drunk. When responding to being heckled for his drinking, John Eh responded: "Yes, but the people prefer John A drunk to George Brown sober." So, seems that we went off track somewhere:confused:

cmonstanley 23-02-2013 06:26

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so losing the triple aaa status means more debt:rolleyes:

jaysay 23-02-2013 08:52

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1043409)
here's another failed politician will he resign,now we have lost our triple aaa credit rating .the tories are really cocking this country up.cant blame labour for this;):tongueout

which is going to have no effect on this country what so ever, according the a professor of business who was interviewed on Breakfast TV. I'm sure it will be the end of the word as we know it in the Guardian. We now have a situation started By Labour being tackled by the coalition, under less favourable terms than Labour ever had. only two countries in the G7 nations still have AAA rating Canada and Germany so we are in good company. Lets face it though we could have had Ed Balls as chancellor, now that's a fate to worry about

DaveinGermany 23-02-2013 10:37

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Floccinaucinihilipilification ? Slubberdegullion ? So which word in particular did you have in mind Jay ? ;) :D

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I'm sure it will be the end of the word as we know it in the Guardian.


cmonstanley 23-02-2013 10:40

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ha ha still blaming labour is wearing a bit thin now.we were out of recession,we had growth at the time of the election.7 billion wasted on a work programme that doesnt work.billions on quantitative easing when it was too late. he hasnt a clue what he is doing. labour were borrowing less up until the big crash and were bringing it down. thats a fact.

Guinness 23-02-2013 10:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043439)
which is going to have no effect on this country what so ever, according the a professor of business who was interviewed on Breakfast TV.

So why have the government gone to great lengths, forcing ever increasing austerity measures mainly on the sick and disabled, to maintain this triple A rating?

Less 23-02-2013 13:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043439)
which is going to have no effect on this country what so ever, according the a professor of business who was interviewed on Breakfast TV. I'm sure it will be the end of the word as we know it in the Guardian. We now have a situation started By Labour being tackled by the coalition, under less favourable terms than Labour ever had. only two countries in the G7 nations still have AAA rating Canada and Germany so we are in good company. Lets face it though we could have had Ed Balls as chancellor, now that's a fate to worry about

Link please, which professor?
Kestral was wrong when he said some woman on tv said sugar is a drug without putting a link, you should know better.

jaysay 23-02-2013 14:16

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1043502)
Link please, which professor?
Kestral was wrong when he said so me woman on tv said sugar is a drug without putting a link, you should know better.

I was a professor speaking on Breakfast TV this morning He was from Liverpool university wasn't quick enough to jot his name down can't find the interview on the BBC web site if I do will post a link just for you Less

jaysay 23-02-2013 14:18

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1043476)
So why have the government gone to great lengths, forcing ever increasing austerity measures mainly on the sick and disabled, to maintain this triple A rating?

your still talking rubbish

jaysay 23-02-2013 14:24

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1043469)
ha ha still blaming labour is wearing a bit thin now.we were out of recession,we had growth at the time of the election.7 billion wasted on a work programme that doesnt work.billions on quantitative easing when it was too late. he hasnt a clue what he is doing. labour were borrowing less up until the big crash and were bringing it down. thats a fact.

you wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on the arse, which shows up when you mention quantitative have another think about that one, and lets not forget Brown was still blaming the previous government right up to being kicked out, you never actually mention the fact that when Blair/Brown took over running the country in 1997 they inherited the best economic outlook by any incoming government in history, now that is fact

Less 23-02-2013 14:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043509)
I was a professor speaking on Breakfast TV this morning He was from Liverpool university wasn't quick enough to jot his name down can't find the interview on the BBC web site if I do will post a link just for you Less

Not just for me, for all the fans you have that hang on your every word.

Eric 23-02-2013 14:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043509)
I was a professor speaking on Breakfast TV this morning He was from Liverpool university wasn't quick enough to jot his name down can't find the interview on the BBC web site if I do will post a link just for you Less

Getting a tad delusional, are we ... or just a little :confused:

Less 23-02-2013 14:36

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043514)
Getting a tad delusional, are we ... or just a little :confused:

I knew someone would pick up on that one, so glad it was you.

jaysay 23-02-2013 15:22

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1043515)
I knew someone would pick up on that one, so glad it was you.

To be honest I don't a flying, if all the posts about my gaffs were to be deleted half the post on accy web would go down the toilet were they belong, if you must point out every mistake, do to it to the rest or just **** of :mad:

DaveinGermany 23-02-2013 15:52

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043528)
To be honest I don't a flying, if all the posts about my gaffs were to be deleted half the post on accy web would go down the toilet were they belong, if you must point out every mistake, do to it to the rest or just **** of :mad:

Steady Tiger ! Don't go doing a Gordo of the Brown ................. :D

And when they said Liverpool Uni, think they meant HMP Walton. :rolleyes:

I can get away with it as I'm a Scouser in exile, any of youse others say it & it's a slander right, impeaching our good name. :s_aim1:

cmonstanley 23-02-2013 17:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043512)
you wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on the arse, which shows up when you mention quantitative have another think about that one, and lets not forget Brown was still blaming the previous government right up to being kicked out, you never actually mention the fact that when Blair/Brown took over running the country in 1997 they inherited the best economic outlook by any incoming government in history, now that is fact

your joking aint you 2.75 million on the dole inheriting a good economy . your barmy lol thats why people voted labour in .your names no george osborne no matter how many times they tell the public its just not true.healthy economy ha ha people choosing to eat or heat lol no national minimum wage.lol

Eric 23-02-2013 18:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043528)
To be honest I don't a flying, if all the posts about my gaffs were to be deleted half the post on accy web would go down the toilet were they belong, if you must point out every mistake, do to it to the rest or just **** of :mad:

It's not every mistake ... just the gems, those brilliant diamonds that provide a quantum of merriment in this dull and boring world. For all that he wreaks havoc on the language, C'mon just doesn't manage to come up with even one memorable error.

Eric 23-02-2013 18:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1043439)
which is going to have no effect on this country what so ever, according the a professor of business who was interviewed on Breakfast TV. I'm sure it will be the end of the word as we know it in the Guardian. We now have a situation started By Labour being tackled by the coalition, under less favourable terms than Labour ever had. only two countries in the G7 nations still have AAA rating Canada and Germany so we are in good company. Lets face it though we could have had Ed Balls as chancellor, now that's a fate to worry about

So, Labour was responsible for the last global economic meltdown:confused:


And I read that Osborne is not going to let this downgrading affect his policies? Oops ... that should have been "policy" ... cut here, cut there, cut everywhere.:rolleyes:

Even the ususally conservative, small government yanks had the sense to bail out GM and Chrysler. And the present administration seems determined not to go for massive cuts without some complementary increases in spending and in taxes on the wealthy. Whatever kind of positive spin you try to put on the loss of the AAA rating, you can't deny it is a blow. And although you think you are in good company, it would still be a much better sign for your ailing economy if you were in company with us and the krauts.

Guinness 23-02-2013 22:44

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your still talking rubbish

Perhaps I am, but at least my record ain't stuck on 13 years..13 years..13 years..

Eric 24-02-2013 09:10

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043464)
Floccinaucinihilipilification ? Slubberdegullion ? So which word in particular did you have in mind Jay ? ;) :D

Could have something to do with this: "In the beginnning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." That seems to sum the whole thing up ... maybe the Word is going to end ... and about time too:theband:

Eric 24-02-2013 09:15

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043534)
Steady Tiger ! Don't go doing a Gordo of the Brown ................. :D

And when they said Liverpool Uni, think they meant HMP Walton. :rolleyes:

I can get away with it as I'm a Scouser in exile, any of youse others say it & it's a slander right, impeaching our good name. :s_aim1:

You must be aware that "yous" is common over here in God's country (still AAA by the way:mosher:) ... as in: "Hey, any of yous guys wanna go in on a two-four and a Texas mickey?";):D

DaveinGermany 24-02-2013 14:51

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1043635)
"Hey, any of yous guys wanna go in on a two-four and a Texas mickey?";):D

Go on then ................... I'll show my ignorance & ask, what are you on about ? :)

Eric 24-02-2013 15:07

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043682)
Go on then ................... I'll show my ignorance & ask, what are you on about ? :)

Here we go:


Urban Dictionary: Two Four


Texas mickey - Wiktionary

Less 24-02-2013 15:10

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1043682)
Go on then ................... I'll show my ignorance & ask, what are you on about ? :)

I think it's something to do with krystal nact. Walt Disney was well known as an anti-semite and a loyal member of the Tory party.:cool:

DaveinGermany 24-02-2013 15:39

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Ah, enlightenment ! :) Thanks very much Eric, what a wonderful place AW is, seems we learn something new everyday.

cmonstanley 24-02-2013 15:42

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Further humiliation for Osborne and HMRC over tax avoidance | Vox Political hairdresser from liverpool haha

cmonstanley 01-03-2013 21:21

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fiddle fiddle fiddle;)

Eric 02-03-2013 00:32

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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Eastleigh ... Maybe because there is not much joy in the result for either the tories or for labour.:rolleyes: And I sense that there aren't too many Lib-Dems posting on here.:D Me, I would have supported the Elvis Party:theband:

cashman 02-03-2013 06:31

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044607)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Eastleigh ... Maybe because there is not much joy in the result for either the tories or for labour.:rolleyes: And I sense that there aren't too many Lib-Dems posting on here.:D Me, I would have supported the Elvis Party:theband:

Well Cameron did say its a mid term wake up, to be expected, so he aint too bothered.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D I was personally delighted.;)

DaveinGermany 02-03-2013 08:55

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Mid term & a by-election, so not really of any importance to man nor beast. That said I think the Lib Dem result was a case of voting like for like to keep the status quo (same with many traditionalist seats) but UKIP coming second ... although probably a protest to kick the main parties up the arse it shows the underlying resentment & desire to be listened to by the voting public (those that made the effort at least).

If UKIP can build on this then the next election should be quite eventful & those who've ignored the public's requests will probably have to look at UKIP more seriously as a predominant force for support.

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 09:22

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its just a protest vote:D be very afraid,ive been listening to tory mps talking about policy and it makes david cameron sound like the sane one.first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.every part of goverment will be open to the private sector which is dangerous.would you trust private firms with your confidential information,would you like some police on the street without a conflict of interest and jaysay your treatment on the nhs wouldnt be free no pay no treatment just left to a handout from a charity or left to die like in the usa.scary times ahead,while they try and distract us with the same old european and immigration populist policy debate.we are in 2013 and its left to food kitchens and charities who are at breaking point.we are in a spiral out of control the more you starve the economy of growth its like trying to run a car without petrol.ive stopped watching the news as its just full of propoganda and no news.:confused:

jaysay 03-03-2013 09:38

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044778)
its just a protest vote:D be very afraid,ive been listening to tory mps talking about policy and it makes david cameron sound like the sane one.first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.every part of goverment will be open to the private sector which is dangerous.would you trust private firms with your confidential information,would you like some police on the street without a conflict of interest and jaysay your treatment on the nhs wouldnt be free no pay no treatment just left to a handout from a charity or left to die like in the us.scary times ahead,while they try and distract us with the same old european and immigration populist policy debate.we are in 2013 and its left to food kitchens and charities who are at breaking point.we are in a spiral out of control the more you starve the economy of growth its like trying to run a car without petrol.ive stopped watching the news as its just full of propoganda and no news.:confused:

Is everybody as stupid as you over the boarder, you really are a clown, think the Tories should start paying you a salary you'd be the best propaganda they could wish for, in as much as if this is a sample of labour thinking and how it projects itself, god help us if Mr Ed was in Downing Street

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 09:42

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is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 09:46

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and this would be a conflict of interest G4S worker charged with SECC murder | Herald Scotland you have no argument jaysay this is mentalist ideology.

tommiasfc 03-03-2013 09:51

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044782)
is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

What are you talking about??

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first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.

Where has that come from getting rid of human rights? You're just making things up or just putting 2+2 together and getting 5. How will they get rid of the national minimum wage? Will people then work for 50p an hour?

jaysay 03-03-2013 09:54

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044782)
is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

stupid is as stupid as ever, glad my brain isn't as addled as yours, fool, wasn't it good old Alistair, who scrapped the 10p tax rate hitting the poorest in the land.

jaysay 03-03-2013 09:57

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 1044788)
What are you talking about??



Where has that come from getting rid of human rights? You're just making things up or just putting 2+2 together and getting 5. How will they get rid of the national minimum wage? Will people then work for 50p an hour?

Don't mind C'mon, he lives in his own hate filled dream world, were anybody who has a shilling more than he has is evil:rolleyes:

Eric 03-03-2013 10:37

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044782)
is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

In most of the world's countries, the answer would be "yes". This, no doubt, is one of the major reasons that many businesses in the western world, businesses controlled by right-wingers, relocate there, with predictable results for western economies. The nazis and the nips seem to be exceptions; they have caught on to the fact that strong economies are the ones that still see making stuff as important.

But what is wrong with your political view is that you seem to have forgotten that socialism is the politics of change ... you are just as hidebound as the tories you criticize. These are the ones that seem to believe that managing a modern economy is as simple as balancing a cheque book, and that the principles which govern a household economy will do fine for the national one. "Common sense revolutions" (that's the "right", if you are confused), and "What about the workers" are meaningless slogans used as substitutes for thinking.

There is, however, a bright side, one which you have, no doubt, failed to notice. The more that tories move to the right, the more they bring on their own destruction. What is happening to the Republican Party in the U.S. reveals that right wing parties which want to move even further to the right are commiting slow suicide. You should rejoice that British tories are shooting themselves in both feet by moving too far in the wrong direction ... that would be backwards and to the right at the same time.:rolleyes:

I'm starting to warm up to Cameron. Not that I would ever vote for him, even if I could. But, at the least, he has the sense to see that, in order to survive, his party has to move to the centre.

jaysay 03-03-2013 10:44

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044797)
In most of the world's countries, the answer would be "yes". This, no doubt, is one of the major reasons that many businesses in the western world, businesses controlled by right-wingers, relocate there, with predictable results for western economies. The nazis and the nips seem to be exceptions; they have caught on to the fact that strong economies are the ones that still see making stuff as important.

But what is wrong with your political view is that you seem to have forgotten that socialism is the politics of change ... you are just as hidebound as the tories you criticize. These are the ones that seem to believe that managing a modern economy is as simple as balancing a cheque book, and that the principles which govern a household economy will do fine for the national one. "Common sense revolutions" (that's the "right", if you are confused), and "What about the workers" are meaningless slogans used as substitutes for thinking.

There is, however, a bright side, one which you have, no doubt, failed to notice. The more that tories move to the right, the more they bring on their own destruction. What is happening to the Republican Party in the U.S. reveals that right wing parties which want to move even further to the right are commiting slow suicide. You should rejoice that British tories are shooting themselves in both feet by moving too far in the wrong direction ... that would be backwards and to the right at the same time.:rolleyes:

I'm starting to warm up to Cameron. Not that I would ever vote for him, even if I could. But, at the least, he has the sense to see that, in order to survive, his party has to move to the centre.

Unfortunately Eric that will have gone right over C'Mons head, by gone over his head I don't mean just missed it, I mean by a million miles:)

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 11:41

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david cameron wont be leader anymore unless he sacrifices george osborne thats a fact .the tory right are positioning themselves for a coup but a wee war in syria thats coming up might save him.

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 11:42

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1044789)
stupid is as stupid as ever, glad my brain isn't as addled as yours, fool, wasn't it good old Alistair, who scrapped the 10p tax rate hitting the poorest in the land.

only if there was no national minimum wage;)

Margaret Pilkington 03-03-2013 11:59

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044778)
its just a protest vote:D be very afraid,ive been listening to tory mps talking about policy and it makes david cameron sound like the sane one.first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.every part of goverment will be open to the private sector which is dangerous.would you trust private firms with your confidential information,would you like some police on the street without a conflict of interest and jaysay your treatment on the nhs wouldnt be free no pay no treatment just left to a handout from a charity or left to die like in the usa.scary times ahead,while they try and distract us with the same old european and immigration populist policy debate.we are in 2013 and its left to food kitchens and charities who are at breaking point.we are in a spiral out of control the more you starve the economy of growth its like trying to run a car without petrol.ive stopped watching the news as its just full of propoganda and no news.:confused:

A bit like a lot of your posts, from less than accurate publications.
Where do you get your totally subjective views from.......you read the popular press, you watch news programs...of course you do! Yet here you are warning us not to listen to the news...to pay no attention to this propaganda.
All news agencies are aligned to one party or another...so there is really no unbiased news reporting...this is especially true of political stories...so what is the answer?
You read lots of variations of the theme, and then you pick the bones out of it. It really does help if you have a cynical turn of mind and can grasp the fact that political parties are really big businesses....not in it to help the little man, the man in the street...they are in it to stay in power for as long as is possible....to make connections, so that once they are out on the bones of their bum, they have another lucrative career.

GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD.............Political parties are all the same animal...they just run under different colours.

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 12:17

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the tories come third in a by-election,ive counted 8 tory mps on the news since then .the news is to report on news,things that have happened .if you dont get it you never will.its like a company taking over the company you work for hence they say there will be no redundancies,when you never asked them.

DaveinGermany 03-03-2013 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044785)
and this would be a conflict of interest G4S worker charged with SECC murder | Herald Scotland you have no argument jaysay this is mentalist ideology.

Care to explain the reasoning for this ?

Gordon Booth 03-03-2013 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044813)
Care to explain the reasoning for this ?

Ask a silly question - and guess what you'll get!

DaveinGermany 03-03-2013 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1044816)
Ask a silly question - and guess what you'll get!

I live in hope Gordon that maybe just one day ...... ! :)

Margaret Pilkington 03-03-2013 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044811)
the tories come third in a by-election,ive counted 8 tory mps on the news since then .the news is to report on news,things that have happened .if you dont get it you never will.its like a company taking over the company you work for hence they say there will be no redundancies,when you never asked them.

It is you who doesn't get it.
So 8 Tory MP's have been on TV........isn't that what you would expect to happen.......since it was one of the main parties who came third.......and the Labour candidate where did that one come?
Doesn't it just show how very disillusioned the voters are with the ineptitude of the main parties?.......and that the Lib Dems won, is no surprise since it is a Lib Dem seat and has been for quite a while.
Did you really expect the news programs to want to interview Labour MP's....had they come ahead of the tories...they just might have done that.....but they had nothing to crow about either.
Dismal....all of them.
There is no such thing as democracy!

Margaret Pilkington 03-03-2013 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044817)
I live in hope Gordon that maybe just one day ...... ! :)

Hope you live long enough for that one Son!

jaysay 03-03-2013 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044817)
I live in hope Gordon that maybe just one day ...... ! :)

Come on Dave there's no sense in nonsense, and that's all you ever get from C'Mon:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1044818)
It is you who doesn't get it.
So 8 Tory MP's have been on TV........isn't that what you would expect to happen.......since it was one of the main parties who came third.......and the Labour candidate where did that one come?
Doesn't it just show how very disillusioned the voters are with the ineptitude of the main parties?.......and that the Lib Dems won, is no surprise since it is a Lib Dem seat and has been for quite a while.
Did you really expect the news programs to want to interview Labour MP's....had they come ahead of the tories...they just might have done that.....but they had nothing to crow about either.
Dismal....all of them.
There is no such thing as democracy!

thats what political party broadcasts are for;) forget about politics pop over to nori bricks and give me a year:D theres about 300 littered all over the beach.

Margaret Pilkington 03-03-2013 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044866)
thats what political party broadcasts are for;) forget about politics pop over to nori bricks and give me a year:D theres about 300 littered all over the beach.

What are you blabbering on about?
Party political broadcasts....Nori Bricks?? Give you a year? What for?
I don't know what you are on, but it is not doing for you.

Eric 03-03-2013 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1044868)
What are you blabbering on about?
Party political broadcasts....Nori Bricks?? Give you a year? What for?
I don't know what you are on, but it is not doing for you.

Maybe he's finally flipped.;)

Margaret Pilkington 04-03-2013 07:02

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You're an educated man Eric....could you make sense of it?
I certainly couldn't.

cashman 04-03-2013 09:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044875)
Maybe he's finally flipped.;)

What yeh mean finally?:D

jaysay 04-03-2013 09:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044875)
Maybe he's finally flipped.;)

Finally flipped Eric, he's been a raving nutcase since May 2010:D

tommiasfc 04-03-2013 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044866)
thats what political party broadcasts are for;) forget about politics pop over to nori bricks and give me a year:D theres about 300 littered all over the beach.

That had got to be the most random gibberish I've ever seen. What the hell are you taking about? Maybe you should stick to copy and pasting articles

susie123 04-03-2013 11:54

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If you read the recent posts on the Nori bricks thread all may become clear.

Margaret Pilkington 04-03-2013 12:01

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Well, I must be thick because it isn't clear to me.
What on earth has the finding of Nori Bricks on a beach in Scotland, got to do with the tories or the Eastleigh by-election?
I'm ready to be enlightened.

susie123 04-03-2013 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1044926)
Well, I must be thick because it isn't clear to me.
What on earth has the finding of Nori Bricks on a beach in Scotland, got to do with the tories or the Eastleigh by-election?
I'm ready to be enlightened.

As I don't normally follow political threads I can't tell you the connection with either, just thought you might have missed his post about bricks...

Margaret Pilkington 04-03-2013 12:51

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I did miss it......I am not sure if finding it was any good. Ah well!

Eric 04-03-2013 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1044879)
You're an educated man Eric....could you make sense of it?
I certainly couldn't.

Sorry, hon, can't help you out on this one. I got most of my education right here on Earth. Maybe if you bump into someone from the Alpha Centauri region, they would be able to help with the translation.;)

DaveinGermany 04-03-2013 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044866)
thats what political party broadcasts are for;)

I believe a response to post 2567 by Marg-P. Politicos should be using P-P-B for bumping their gums

forget about politics pop over to nori bricks and give me a year:D theres about 300 littered all over the beach.

About finding Nori bricks on a Jockeen beach (thread he started) & he's asking if anyone can date the bricks he photographed.

Or at least that's my understanding.

Gordon Booth 04-03-2013 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044953)
About finding Nori bricks on a Jockeen beach (thread he started) & he's asking if anyone can date the bricks he photographed.

Or at least that's my understanding.

Ahhh. I get it, although I worry about your thought processes if you could work that out. You know what they say-Takes one to know one?

I'll bet you do the Times crossword.

Less 04-03-2013 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1044955)
I'll bet you do the Times crossword.

Do It? He's the sick smart ass that compiles it!
:)

susie123 04-03-2013 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1044955)
Ahhh. I get it, although I worry about your thought processes if you could work that out. You know what they say-Takes one to know one?

I'll bet you do the Times crossword.

Easy if you'd seen the thread, posted yesterday I think

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044953)
About finding Nori bricks on a Jockeen beach (thread he started) & he's asking if anyone can date the bricks he photographed.

Or at least that's my understanding.

Correct except he didn't start the thread.

Gordon Booth 04-03-2013 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1044957)
Easy if you'd seen the thread, posted yesterday I think

Correct except he didn't start the thread.

Be careful, susie.
I've got this joke about Morecambe just waiting to be posted.

DaveinGermany 04-03-2013 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1044955)
Ahhh. I get it, although I worry about your thought processes if you could work that out. You know what they say-Takes one to know one?

I'll bet you do the Times crossword.

I socialize a lot Gordon, I see drunk people ! :D

Independent actually. :)

DaveinGermany 04-03-2013 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1044957)
Easy if you'd seen the thread, posted yesterday I think

Correct except he didn't start the thread.

My mistake, make sure you don't let it happen again. :)

Eric 04-03-2013 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044953)
About finding Nori bricks on a Jockeen beach (thread he started) & he's asking if anyone can date the bricks he photographed.

Or at least that's my understanding.

Had some rough dates in my life; but I've never dated a brick ... once went out with a chick who was built like a brick mosque (that's a nice way of saying shiitehouse;)) if that counts:D

Margaret Pilkington 04-03-2013 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044939)
Sorry, hon, can't help you out on this one. I got most of my education right here on Earth. Maybe if you bump into someone from the Alpha Centauri region, they would be able to help with the translation.;)

Oh well, that's my last hope shot to pieces then :(

Margaret Pilkington 04-03-2013 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044953)
About finding Nori bricks on a Jockeen beach (thread he started) & he's asking if anyone can date the bricks he photographed.

Or at least that's my understanding.

Yes, but then this was NEWS...not a party political broadcast...or all the other parties would have been given a shout.

There's more working in a Beecham's Pill than in that mans brain.

MargaretR 04-03-2013 19:40

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The tories deserve to be seriously frightened

Urban Dictionary: brick it

Margaret Pilkington 04-03-2013 19:53

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I think they are probably too arrogant(as most political parties seem to be) to come close to that Margaret.
Plus, I don't think C'mons brain works in such a sophisticated way...I think he still uses a crank handle to get it to fire up.

cashman 04-03-2013 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1044977)
I think they are probably too arrogant(as most political parties seem to be) to come close to that Margaret.
Plus, I don't think C'mons brain works in such a sophisticated way...I think he still uses a crank handle to get it to fire up.

Thats very unfair,crank handles did get summat going.:rolleyes::D

Margaret Pilkington 05-03-2013 06:35

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They took a lot of work sometimes Cashy.......they made you sweat...and swear....and sometimes you gave up in disgust.

jaysay 05-03-2013 09:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044965)
Had some rough dates in my life; but I've never dated a brick ... once went out with a chick who was built like a brick mosque (that's a nice way of saying shiitehouse;)) if that counts:D

You've always had a way with words Eric areal Wordsmith:D

jaysay 05-03-2013 09:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1045009)
They took a lot of work sometimes Cashy.......they made you sweat...and swear....and sometimes you gave up in disgust.

Ya Margaret C'mon does have that effect on a lot of people, from all sides of the political devide:D

cmonstanley 09-03-2013 14:12

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the way to cut corners and outsource in the nhs Amputee dies in G4S ambulance due to 'insufficient' staff training - Home News - UK - The Independent

tommiasfc 09-03-2013 14:19

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Wehey cmon is back with copy and pasting because he cant thnk of things to say.

cashman 09-03-2013 14:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 1045798)
Wehey cmon is back with copy and pasting because he cant thnk of things to say.

He used to be a football fan on a sat.:rolleyes:


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