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Guinness 27-12-2012 18:34
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1034444)
If all that is a crime then I am guilty.
Pleading guilty will not alleviate your sentence.

For your crimes you are hereby remanded to remain amongst the majority of the common sense party being governed by the minority of <insert appropriate political party> who will lie, cheat, steal and commit other heinous crimes which will be protected by parliamentary priviledge and receive a wondrous pension which you will pay for from exorbitant taxes on your fuel, food and lifes other little luxuries.

And may God have mercy on your soul! :behead:

Margaret Pilkington 27-12-2012 20:02
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Oh, that's a real blow...I thought if you pled guilty it meant a lighter sentence.
(bleedin' lousy British justice)
Are you sure I can't be sentenced to be transported to the other side of the world?
I'll even steal a loaf of bread if it will make a difference.

Guinness 27-12-2012 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1034458)
Oh, that's a real blow...I thought if you pled guilty it meant a lighter sentence.
(bleedin' lousy British justice)
Are you sure I can't be sentenced to be transported to the other side of the world?
I'll even steal a loaf of bread if it will make a difference.
Be thankful for small mercies!


As a political prisoner you're restricted to the common sense wing, which means you are segregated from those in the nutjob Labour wing.
Stealing a loaf of bread is a food crime and would place you amidst those who deep fry mars bars.....think long and hard 'Ms Criminal'...transportation to the colonies and a life spent with an incoherent, mentally challenged labour fanatic, or a few years on a chain gang breaking rocks with a toffee hammer and glueing them back together with a flour and water paste?


Still wanna change your plea girl???

Margaret Pilkington 27-12-2012 21:13
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No...sirree...I'll stick with the toffee hammer(no pun intended - well it was only half a pun really :D)

Lucysgirl 28-12-2012 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1034323)
Kids go to school hungry while their parents lie in bed after a night on the booze.......yes, you see them at the school gates in the afternoon smoking a fag......and talking about their latest aquisition of games console, TV etcetera.

There is less in the benefits pot, because more people who should not be claiming benefits, are claiming them....people who land on our shores from a foreign country, to be given housing clothing and full access to benefits.
They then live frugally and send the money back to their homeland where it benefits, not our economy, but theirs.

It will get worse from 2014 when Croatians will be allowed free let into this country, and access to the benfits system from the day they land......they are making plans in their millions to come here purely for money to live off my pension(my taxes will be used to fund these people).

You never once criticised the Labour government for their porous border control, this was a ploy to get more people they thought would vote for them, into the country...they failed to recognise(or maybe they thought somebody else would have the problem of sorting it out) the problems that such a great influx of low skilled and unskilled people coming into the country, would have on the infrastructure of our towns and cities. On Housing, on Health services, on schools, transport.

The only people who should be allowed into this country are those with skills we need.......and like in Australia, if they do not have the means to survive withou government help for a period of two years, then they too, should be banned from entry.

Labour governments also built a culture of welfare dependent families...again in the hope that these would vote for Labour candidates(well, they would wouldn't they - who wants benefits stopping ?). For some families a life on benefits is a lifestyle choice.
I am not saying that some benefit claimants aren't genuine, but that there are many who are not.

You won't hear a word of this against your beloved Labour party...who I suppose you consider to be 'socialist'....but they haven't been socialist for a damn long time.....unless of course, you consider Champagne socialism, true socialism.
Germany had a programme somewhat similar to that when they needed to rebuild their land after WWII. Germany were always fond of documentation in triplicate and historically immigrants were required to have permission to work in the country, once they had that permission they were then aloud to reside in the country. If they became unemployed they were allowed to reside in the country for six months thereafter but if they didn't find further work within the time limit their right to stay was withdrawn. Children born in Germany of immigrant parents did not automatically become German citizens.
I think it was early in the Blair/Brown years when Germany was suffering a turn down in trade they tried to implement their law of repatriating workers back to their land of origin. By then most of the immigrants' children were in their 40s and hadn't known any other life excepting life in Germany. Several mass marches later and several EU talks later, the EU introduced a clause in a Treaty which overturned Germany's right to decide who could be a citizen of its own country.

cmonstanley 28-12-2012 19:56
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talking about Germany ,i wonder why their unemployment rate fluctuates so much

cmonstanley 28-12-2012 20:00
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calculated by the Deutsche Bundesbank a bit of conflicted interest here i think
GERMANY UNEMPLOYMENT RATE

Unemployment Rate in Germany remained unchanged at 6.50 percent in November of 2012 from 6.50 percent in October of 2012. Unemployment Rate in Germany is reported by the Deutsche Bundesbank. Historically, from 1950 until 2012, Germany Unemployment Rate averaged 6.1 Percent reaching an all time high of 14.2 Percent in February of 1950 and a record low of 0.4 Percent in June of 1962. In Germany, the unemployment rate measures the number of people actively looking for a job as a percentage of the labour force

cmonstanley 29-12-2012 00:26
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this is the new tory employment law:D make it easier to sack workers .http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...melissa-nelson

Less 29-12-2012 09:31
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1034592)
talking about Germany ,i wonder why their unemployment rate fluctuates so much
***Conspiracy Warning!***
Perhaps when unemployment is low they are sending their workers over here disguised as Polish plumbers?

:eek:

MargaretR 29-12-2012 10:02
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I have read somewhere recently that Germany is in conflict with EU legislation because if immigrants are unemployed for 6 months they deport them back to country of origin.

If you want link I could find it but really can't be arsed:rolleyes:

Less 29-12-2012 13:19
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1034646)

If you want link I could find it but really can't be arsed:rolleyes:
That depends on how many are holding you down, but then, you seem to have your own demons doing that job for you.
:)

cmonstanley 30-12-2012 21:07
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if thats the what they do how come theres 3 million turks alone:confused: i think people listen to the lazy journalism in this country than look at the facts.is britain heading for a fiscal cliff, because the tories are following this policy:confused:

ToffeeGuy 30-12-2012 23:42
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1034592)
talking about Germany ,i wonder why their unemployment rate fluctuates so much
Simple. They come over here with their Christmas markets in winter. In summer they are on the Costas nicking my sun lounger.

jaysay 31-12-2012 08:24
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1034899)
if thats the what they do how come theres 3 million turks alone:confused: i think people listen to the lazy journalism in this country than look at the facts.is britain heading for a fiscal cliff, because the tories are following this policy:confused:
And the laziest journalist work for the Independent, Guardian, and Mirror:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 31-12-2012 08:56
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Facts(as far as the media are concerned- governments too)come in many versions......it takes a lot of sifting to sort the wheat from the chaff(or in cmonstanleys case - chuff).

Lucysgirl 31-12-2012 21:50
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1034646)
I have read somewhere recently that Germany is in conflict with EU legislation because if immigrants are unemployed for 6 months they deport them back to country of origin.

If you want link I could find it but really can't be arsed:rolleyes:
I'm surprised to hear that because I remember there were rallies in Germany by immigrants and their children, many children being in their 40s and had never lived or worked in their "homeland" of Turkey. After WWII Germany, like Britain, needed manpower to replace men killed in action - Germany made it clear that a work visa was needed to be domicile in their country and as you say if there was no work after six months the visa expired and the migrant had to return home. The EU passed legislation which meant Germany had to change its laws - apparently they didn't.

jaysay 01-01-2013 08:49
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Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1035050)
I'm surprised to hear that because I remember there were rallies in Germany by immigrants and their children, many children being in their 40s and had never lived or worked in their "homeland" of Turkey. After WWII Germany, like Britain, needed manpower to replace men killed in action - Germany made it clear that a work visa was needed to be domicile in their country and as you say if there was no work after six months the visa expired and the migrant had to return home. The EU passed legislation which meant Germany had to change its laws - apparently they didn't.
Well everybody knows its only the good old GB who bows down to every European edict, the likes of France and Germany just do as they please:mad:

cmonstanley 01-01-2013 16:51
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more tory lies

cashman 01-01-2013 16:57
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Yeh seem to me to have got more bitter @ twisted Cmon since Rangers were dumped into oblivion, its new years day, a football day, not crap like this.:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 18:18
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You will post anything...absolutely anything, that will try in some way to absolve the last Labour government of any responsibility for the mess that this country finds itself in.

During their time in power you did not post one negative or critical comment ever

Eric 01-01-2013 19:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1034458)
Oh, that's a real blow...I thought if you pled guilty it meant a lighter sentence.
(bleedin' lousy British justice)
Are you sure I can't be sentenced to be transported to the other side of the world?
I'll even steal a loaf of bread if it will make a difference.
They'll have to transport you eastwards ... we are full here;)

cmonstanley 02-01-2013 21:05
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Norman Baker tells commuters they are paying for 'premium product .bob crowe says rail passengers are getting bled dry by a bunch of spivs .i know who i believe.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 21:12
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1035184)
They'll have to transport you eastwards ... we are full here;)
I was thinking more 'downunder'...at least I have rellies there that would bring me a cake with a file in it...and it is a big wide country with enough places to lose myself in Eric.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 21:15
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035304)
Norman Baker tells commuters they are paying for 'premium product .bob crowe says rail passengers are getting bled dry by a bunch of spivs .i know who i believe.
The last time I looked the railways were a private enterprise...in it to make a profit....isn't that what businesses do?

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 21:18
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And I don't recall you bringing up this subject before...like,when the Labour government was in office...this is the 10th consecutive year that prices have risen like this...so it isn't anything new...and Labour did nowt about it either, so don't sound so wounded.

cashman 02-01-2013 21:46
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035304)
Norman Baker tells commuters they are paying for 'premium product .bob crowe says rail passengers are getting bled dry by a bunch of spivs .i know who i believe.
What was Bob saying when they went up oer the odds under Labour? In fact don't recall you saying out.:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 02-01-2013 23:35
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i didnt agree with everything labour did or didnt,but they should have re-nationalized the railways.its the only way forward for the country to build on infrastructure instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses.the way forward is integration of the transport systems to help mobilise the work force at a reasonable price, instead of letting more money drain from the country to private shareholders.

Lucysgirl 03-01-2013 00:34
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035335)
i didnt agree with everything labour did or didnt,but they should have re-nationalized the railways.its the only way forward for the country to build on infrastructure instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses.the way forward is integration of the transport systems to help mobilise the work force at a reasonable price, instead of letting more money drain from the country to private shareholders.
One look at Bob Crow's record should give a hint on why they weren't re-nationalized :do-one:

DaveinGermany 03-01-2013 05:27
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[QUOTE=cmonstanley;1035335]but they should have re-nationalized the railways
instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses./QUOTE]

I really can't follow your "logic" ???

And anyway, just where would the money have come from ?? I seem to recall labour chucking it away hand over fist on pet enterprises such as the deadbeats, lazy & rather a large amount of foreigners who they'd let in in the hopes of swelling their voting base.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 06:41
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035335)
i didnt agree with everything labour did or didnt,but they should have re-nationalized the railways.its the only way forward for the country to build on infrastructure instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses.the way forward is integration of the transport systems to help mobilise the work force at a reasonable price, instead of letting more money drain from the country to private shareholders.
You might not have agreed...but how would we know...you never uttered one word of criticism against them. Very unbalanced don't you think?
Has no-one ever told you that hindsight is 20/20.
Successive governments failed to invest in the infrastructure..so when private concerns took over these nationalised industries...they were in need of big money to bring them up to a better standard. Would you hand over your money to do this with absolutely no return for it? No, that is why investors want to get a return on their investments........it is a bit like putting money in the bank and getting interest........oh look, the interest rates have been at what is a zero rate(or might as well be for what the banks pay out). No return for the money = no investment.
Private companies employ people...they pay wages. shareholders invest(that means they put their hard earned cash into the business) for which they get dividend(not always great amounts either)...for economic health it is necessary to have investment...so that workers can have jobs.(many of these workers will also be shareholders..though they might not realise it - it is money put into shares/bond/investments that will grow their pension pot).

A lot of ordinary folk in this country have shares(I am one of them) they do not bring me a vast amount of money, but make the difference between being able to pay the gas bill, and not being able to pay the gas bill!

cmonstanley 03-01-2013 08:56
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I criticized them over the post office;)

cmonstanley 03-01-2013 09:01
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[QUOTE=DaveinGermany;1035346]
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035335)
but they should have re-nationalized the railways
instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses./QUOTE]

I really can't follow your "logic" ???

And anyway, just where would the money have come from ?? I seem to recall labour chucking it away hand over fist on pet enterprises such as the deadbeats, lazy & rather a large amount of foreigners who they'd let in in the hopes of swelling their voting base.
The logic is taxpayers money being wasted on a ideology that has cost the country billions and yes labour failed there

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 09:10
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035357)
I criticized them over the post office;)
have you got proof of this? Because no-one on here recalls you ever posting anything at all against the last administration.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 09:11
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[QUOTE=cmonstanley;1035358]
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1035346)

The logic is taxpayers money being wasted on a ideology that has cost the country billions and yes labour failed there
This has to be a red letter day!

The 'Labour failed' bit is what C'mon said...though the quote ia attributed to DiG.....he was quoting what C'mon said.
I have come over all faint...I had better have a lie down.
Never thought I would see that from such a staunch, dyed in the wool, labour supporter.

Boeing Guy 03-01-2013 16:27
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035360)
have you got proof of this? Because no-one on here recalls you ever posting anything at all against the last administration.
As much as it pains me, there is his ONE post regarding this:
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...are-50031.html


Still it is only once:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 18:28
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I have to believe it now I have proof...but as you say, it was only the once.

Boeing Guy 03-01-2013 18:31
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Now lets not get carried away here Margaret, I don't thing anyone liked Mandy.... He made Count Dracula look good

cmonstanley 03-01-2013 18:39
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i told you :p:D

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 19:56
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You were right, but only this once.
And yes Si..Mandy was a bit of an appendage....a useless one at that!

Less 06-01-2013 10:10
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Just heard on the news, our Prime Minister claiming that the coalition is running on 'a full tank of gas', is this yet more empty rhetoric or is he just rubbing everyone elses face in it?

Hands up all those that can afford to fill their tanks at these prices. Yep just as I thought not many, but it's easy to do when the taxpayer foots the bill.

Guinness 06-01-2013 10:44
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1035842)
Just heard on the news, our Prime Minister claiming that the coalition is running on 'a full tank of gas'
No doubt that the 'gas' is methane caused as a by product from all the horsecrap that he and Clegg constantly peddle as ways to run a country

jaysay 06-01-2013 10:51
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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1035846)
No doubt that the 'gas' is methane caused as a by product from all the horsecrap that he and Clegg constantly peddle as ways to run a country
Ya come back good old Gordy, he's the man to sort all the problems of the country he and his buddy Tony got us into in the first place, :rolleyes:

Less 06-01-2013 11:07
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1035849)
Ya come back good old Gordy, he's the man to sort all the problems of the country he and his buddy Tony got us into in the first place, :rolleyes:
You don't find many people disagreeing with the above statement, but no matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make the present lot seem any better.
:(

Margaret Pilkington 06-01-2013 11:19
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they are all cut from the same bit of cloth...but on the bias.
Their agenda isn't to do the bidding of the electorate...it isn't even to follow the promises made in their manifesto's...their agenda is to stay in office for as long as possible, doing as little as they can get away with, for the most money, while screwing the rest of us into the ground.
None of them have ever had a real job, none of them appreciate, or even understand the difficulties that best the ordinary folk - that's you and me...who are in to do-do because of a problem, in the main, made by politicains and government departments who have messed up in one way or another.

They are all a shower of she-ite.

cmonstanley 06-01-2013 15:53
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Network Rail has £28 Billion of debt. British Rail wasn't allowed any. Perhaps Mr Osborne should send an invoice to the Adam Smith Institute - the bright sparks who (clearly literally!) dreamt up the present structure. BBBR!

Less 06-01-2013 16:32
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035883)
Network Rail has £28 Billion of debt. British Rail wasn't allowed any. Perhaps Mr Osborne should send an invoice to the Adam Smith Institute - the bright sparks who (clearly literally!) dreamt up the present structure. BBBR!

Do you have some sort of random program that throws words together then automatically posts them for you?
Or are you relying on an infinite number of monkeys sat at typewriters to write this drivel for you?
:confused:

jaysay 06-01-2013 17:57
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1035853)
You don't find many people disagreeing with the above statement, but no matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make the present lot seem any better.
:(
Totally agree with you Less, just a pity our kilt wearing friend from the north would have us believe at all our ills started in May 2010, besides talking a lot of bullshine in the bargain, the only thing he's capable of is posting links to the Guardian and Independent which he thinks he can score political points with, doubt he even reads the links first, if the headline looks good he just links it:cool:

cmonstanley 06-01-2013 18:00
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the adam smith institute advised the tories in the 80s.probably the same people who have been advising them to disaster now.all we hear is we are in debt because of labour but we have always had debt and privatision has added to that because all subsidies have been spent on paying the shareholders a dividend.i just dont get it,people who believe all the drivel propoganda that is spewing out of all the media outlets,we have always had the debt we have now,it tory ideology to have less goverment.why change it now ,when it has served the country for years to have goverment departments rather than pay some company to fiddle figures to get their dosh.

ToffeeGuy 06-01-2013 22:15
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1035849)
Ya come back good old Gordy, he's the man to sort all the problems of the country he and his buddy Tony got us into in the first place, :rolleyes:
The problems were started by the Tories and the free market deregulation and privatisation in the 1980s which has led to a selfish, over indebited and property obsessed society we live in today. Labour didn't stop it but neither did the governments of almost any other western country.

cmonstanley 06-01-2013 22:25
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true and have too admit labour didnt go far enough.:( also today the main charities haave said the big society is dead. The Big Society is dead, charities tell Cameron | The Times the tories are really pitiful first they bring in care in the community then bring in abandon them in the community.:( it makes me sad seeing people with learning difficulties with no support and understanding .what society have we become labeling them scroungers,scapegoats and liabilities .

cmonstanley 06-01-2013 22:29
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Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy (Post 1035927)
The problems were started by the Tories and the free market deregulation and privatisation in the 1980s which has led to a selfish, over indebited and property obsessed society we live in today. Labour didn't stop it but neither did the governments of almost any other western country.
it could be to do with the brainwashing dumbing down of society with newscorp.
do not underestimate the power of media after all they controlled and spread the news of popular culture.

ToffeeGuy 06-01-2013 22:42
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1035842)
Just heard on the news, our Prime Minister claiming that the coalition is running on 'a full tank of gas'
Yeah, but the wheels have fallen off, the engine is made in China, compassion has been given the boot and it's on the road to nowhere.

jaysay 07-01-2013 08:01
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035928)
it makes me sad seeing people with learning difficulties with no support and understanding .what society have we become labeling them scroungers,scapegoats and liabilities .
Most of us understand that every time YOU post on here.:rolleyes:

jaysay 07-01-2013 08:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toffee Guy (Post 1035927)
The problems were started by the Tories and the free market deregulation and privatisation in the 1980s which has led to a selfish, over indebited and property obsessed society we live in today. Labour didn't stop it but neither did the governments of almost any other western country.
And your trying to tell me that nationalised industries actually worked and paid for themselves, the nationalised industries were all money goblin jobs for jobs sake, white elephants, even now in the NHS the ration pf clinicians to white collar workers is running 1 to 1 for every doctor, nurse etc there's a none productive paper pusher. We live in a capitalist driven world, to try and exist with the clapped socialist system Labour so much idealised would lead to the country being left out in the cold, Socialism doesn't work never has worked unless its been enforced by the rule of the gun and not the ballot box, if you like the way things were I suggest you move to china, they'll welcome you with open arms there, providing to Kowtow and do as your told, when your told, without question.

jaysay 07-01-2013 08:26
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035929)
it could be to do with the brainwashing dumbing down of society with newscorp.
do not underestimate the power of media after all they controlled and spread the news of popular culture.
Don't think you need much dumbing down you hit rock botton long ago;)

Neil 08-01-2013 06:00
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1035928)
true and have too admit labour didnt go far enough.:( also today the main charities haave said the big society is dead. The Big Society is dead, charities tell Cameron | The Times the tories are really pitiful first they bring in care in the community then bring in abandon them in the community.:( it makes me sad seeing people with learning difficulties with no support and understanding .what society have we become labeling them scroungers,scapegoats and liabilities .

Are you a Times subscriber?
Most members wont be able to read the story you linked to without subscribing and logging in. A lot of what the story talks about is rubbish anyway

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 06:53
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I cannot, for the life of me, see C'mon reading the times...be it online or in the paper version.
It would be like giving pigs cherries.

Neil 08-01-2013 08:11
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1036049)
I cannot, for the life of me, see C'mon reading the times...be it online or in the paper version.
It would be like giving pigs cherries.
If you are not a subscriber you can only see the first few lines of the story and will have missed the comment by a Downing Street spokesperson at the end of the story explaining why they don't think its dead.

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 11:08
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It's ronseal innit:rolleyes:

jaysay 08-01-2013 12:08
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1036076)
It's ronseal innit:rolleyes:
You have never once answered with a sensible reply on any subject you raise, could it be your a plant for the Labour Party just reprinting what they send you, without back up information, sure sounds like it to me.:(

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 12:20
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1036076)
It's ronseal innit:rolleyes:
Well, I am sure we are all familiar with the catchphrase, but that doesn't answer the question that Neil posed.
I fear that is is much as was said...you read a contentious headline and post it without having read anything about the subject, in the publication your link is related to.

Less 08-01-2013 12:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1036082)
You have never once answered with a sensible reply on any subject you raise, could it be your a plant for the Labour Party just reprinting what they send you, without back up information, sure sounds like it to me.:(
Now, now Jay, we all know you won't have a good word said about Labour,even you though can't believe they would even contemplate employing him as their mouthpiece?

He does that party even more harm than your thirteen years of mismanagement speech does to the Torys!
:D

Neil 08-01-2013 18:49
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Sorry to those that replied to the stupid post I have just deleted

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 19:24
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Neil you did us all a good turn there. Life is far too short to be reading that sort of drivel.

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 19:28
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does anybody know why 2 tory ministers have resigned their posts in the last 2 days?



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Less 08-01-2013 19:32
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1036155)
does anybody know why 2 tory ministers have resigned their posts in the last 2 days?



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Yes they've been cut to the quick by your witty remarks on here and can't take the strain any longer, though no doubt you won't get any credit for it, they always claim to leave, 'To spend more time with their families'.
;)

davebtelford 08-01-2013 19:32
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does anybody know why 2 tory ministers have resigned their posts in the last 2 days?
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Cos they're fed up of being compromised by the coalition agreement & they can make big bucks devoting their time to private enterprise?

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 19:33
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Sorry to those that replied to the stupid post I have just deleted
why was it stupid:confused: it was history and was showing how the tories changed their tune from before the election to after the election. the truth is out heres the graph which sees through the tory propaganda machine

Less 08-01-2013 19:39
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why was it stupid:confused:
If you don't know why it was stupid you mustn't have read it!

But then, do you ever read anything you copy & paste?:(

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 19:42
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it was from an official tory website ,so i take it back it must have been stupid:D

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 19:45
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Cos they're fed up of being compromised by the coalition agreement & they can make big bucks devoting their time to private enterprise?
you are actually right:eek: they are becoming super lobbyists with a licence to print money.

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 19:50
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But the graph is from the BBC, not a biased organisation.....are they????

As for the two tory ministers...they were sick of reading your jibes about what they(the tories) do for a living.

And as for that undigestible lump of text........it was stupid because it was not something penned by you, it took up a lot of server space, and lastly it was something that none of us wanted to read through, to see if there were any nuggets of truth in it.

Less 08-01-2013 19:50
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it was from an official tory website ,so i take it back it must have been stupid:D
Yes I know, stolen by you I was about to put this link and their first paragraph, which you took without giving their site any acknowledgement. However the post had been removed so I wasn't going to put it on, but so that others can see what a phony you are:-

ConservativeHome's ToryDiary: Tories will match Labour's public spending for next three years

:lamer:

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 19:52
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Less, we don't need that proof. I think we are all able to draw our own conclusions.

Less 08-01-2013 19:56
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Less, we don't need that proof. I think we are all able to draw our own conclusions.
Oh, I know the oldbies can, but the new P.C. AccyWeb must make sure none of the newbies are harmed by anything wot he stole.

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 20:00
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how can you say the bbc are biased when they placed chris patten at the heart of the bbc:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 20:09
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Yes I know, stolen by you I was about to put this link and their first paragraph, which you took without giving their site any acknowledgement. However the post had been removed so I wasn't going to put it on, but so that others can see what a phony you are:-

ConservativeHome's ToryDiary: Tories will match Labour's public spending for next three years

:lamer:
there is some interesting comments on the page even by tory voters ie no economic policy

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 21:36
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How can you tell they are tory voters? They are just responding to the article that they have read...they could be much like you, dyed in the wool, blinkered labour voters, who are looking for ammunition to fire at the policy of the current government...which if you look, just happens to be a coalition government.

And because Chris Patten is employed by the BBC doesn't make the BBC unbiased...it was once upon a time, but definitely not now.

cmonstanley 08-01-2013 21:40
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no, they are tory voters .now they won the 1% benefits cap vote when will they start attacking the pensions . ohh i nearly forgot im going to have to work till im 72 or drop dead. tory scum

Alan Varrechia 08-01-2013 22:03
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This tickled me so thought i would post it here.


According to David Cameron, this Government is like Ronseal.

So, that would be Ronseal - the foul-smelling, hazardous, noxious irritant that you wouldn't want to get near your family, then? Yep, sounds about right!

:D:D:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 22:06
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you have not said how you know they are tory voters...after all you were visiting the page and you(I assume) are not a tory voter.
Anyone of any(or no) particular political persuasion may visit that blog...and can post comments...much as they do on the Yahoo news site.
You cannot be sure who they vote for...you are just surmising that they are tory voters as you cannot possibly have any proof.

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2013 22:08
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This tickled me so thought i would post it here.


According to David Cameron, this Government is like Ronseal.

So, that would be Ronseal - the foul-smelling, hazardous, noxious irritant that you wouldn't want to get near your family, then? Yep, sounds about right!

:D:D:D:D
Most governments have the same properties.
None of the political parties care one jot for the electorate or their wishes...we have seen that in the past and in the present.
They are only in it for what they can do for themselves.

jaysay 09-01-2013 08:20
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Sorry to those that replied to the stupid post I have just deleted
Thank you Neil sanity at last

jaysay 09-01-2013 08:25
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you are actually right:eek: they are becoming super lobbyists with a licence to print money.
You mean like Tony and Gordon have done since leaving office, Brown is still and MP yet hasn't set one foot in the commons chamber in the last 12 months, seems its more profitable earning around 200K on the American circuit yet he's still drawing his MPs salary, surely you'll join in and criticise this useless waste of tax payers money:mad:

jaysay 09-01-2013 08:28
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no, they are tory voters .now they won the 1% benefits cap vote when will they start attacking the pensions . ohh i nearly forgot im going to have to work till im 72 or drop dead. tory scum
Well that won't effect you there's more work in a sick note:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 09-01-2013 18:53
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the tories the party of law and order your having a joke Police stations in London under threat of closure mapped and listed | News | guardian.co.uk

jaysay 10-01-2013 09:49
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When are you going to realise that its you and the Guardian that are the joke, but not a very good one

cmonstanley 10-01-2013 19:15
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7 prisons are closing soon ,thats a lot of criminals out at once;) party of law and order my :eek: 7 is a magic word 7,000 less police,7000 less nurses the list goes on.

Less 10-01-2013 19:19
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7 prisons are closing soon ,thats a lot of criminals out at once;) party of law and order my :eek: 7 is a magic word 7,000 less police,7000 less nurses the list goes on.
How many of these nurses protected us from the prisoners?

Neil 10-01-2013 19:37
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7 prisons are closing soon ,thats a lot of criminals out at once;) party of law and order my :eek: 7 is a magic word 7,000 less police,7000 less nurses the list goes on.
Have a read from your favourite Guardian Seven prisons in England to close | Society | guardian.co.uk

There wont be any criminals let out, there are currently almost 7000 spare beds in prisons in England and Wales.

Margaret Pilkington 10-01-2013 19:43
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Awww, Neil...don't spoil his fun...he enjoys cutting and pasting the headlines of articles that he never reads...it allows him the pleasure of us telling him what they actually said.

cmonstanley 10-01-2013 22:12
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Six out of ten prisons too crowded, with 7,000 more inmates than they're meant to hold | Mail Online do you mean this;)

jaysay 11-01-2013 12:37
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7 prisons are closing soon ,that's a lot of criminals out at once;) party of law and order my :eek: 7 is a magic word 7,000 less police,7000 less nurses the list goes on.
In you haste to dive in the deep end you forgot to mention that the Government are to build a new up to date prison holding holding 2000, so it will be better for you, instead of visiting Berlinnie, you'll have a nice new place:D

jaysay 11-01-2013 12:39
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Now you are scrapping the Barrel quoting from the good old Mail even I've stopped doing that:D:D:D

Neil 11-01-2013 13:40
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Do you think it should be a holiday camp in prison?

jaysay 11-01-2013 18:05
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Do you think it should be a holiday camp in prison?
It already is Neil if your name is something like Huntley:rolleyes: 3 square a day no heating bills Sky TV, Music centre only the best for guys like that matey;)

cmonstanley 11-01-2013 19:57
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well the safety of the guards should be paramount.anyway thats another 12 fire stations shut in london.:(

jaysay 12-01-2013 14:18
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well the safety of the guards should be paramount.anyway thats another 12 fire stations shut in london.:(
I'm still seething at Ossy Fire Station being closed in 2007:rolleyes:

Less 12-01-2013 14:27
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I'm still seething at Ossy Fire Station being closed in 2007:rolleyes:

On the plus side, the folk have a local Tesco's now.

DaveinGermany 12-01-2013 15:03
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On the plus side, the folk have a local Tesco's now.
All well & good, but I bet they don't do a line in Pussy rescue ! :eek: (And I'm not talking about home waxing kits here either) :D


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