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Its a comic you clown, mind you when you read the Mirror I suppose Private Eye is a bit upmarket for you:D

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i see we are back in recession due to osbournes policies.take money out of a dying economy and you will kill it.the money they have been pumping into it is too little too late;)

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We could have sold off the gold reserve, if Labour hadn't sold it all off...cheaply, and pumped that into the economy.

;)

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G....what gold reserves were they then???????????

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Always happy to oblige.

For anyone who may have forgotten.

Give, give, give.

(A little like that fool did, Labour Prime Minister, Brown.)


Gold hits all-time high of $1,500 an ounce (which means the amount Gordon flogged for £2bn would today fetch £13BILLION)


Price of gold hits record $1,500: What Gordon Brown sold for £2bn would now fetch £13bn | Mail Online

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aaah, yes....I remember now. Wasn't he a Labour chancellor at the time G?
Just need to have my poor old memory refreshed now and again.

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another privatization coming soon! .. I don't think there is much left to privatise :/

We all know war is used for profit for the big arms dealers - Boeing - BAE - Lockheed etc but it seems they want more

Ministry Of Defence Next To Be Privatised | UK Column

Ministry of defence? Don't they control the armed forces? It's against the law for anyone to have a private army isn't it?

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Yes, at the time he was Labour's Chancellor.

He was so good at that job he was rewarded for his efforts, and became Labour Prime Minister.

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do you really think the tories would have any different policies if they still had the gold. no they still would be selling everything to their mates .hind site eh everybodies got it

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Unlike some half-blinded party disciples, most folks know there's nothing much between them, when it comes to them shafting the man and woman in the street.

Thatcher sold off the family siver.

Brown sold off the gold plated taps.

Comme ci, comme ça.

They're all a load of careerist, professional politicans, out to feather their own nests.

Still, as long as you keep waving your little red flag, and others, equally blinkered to what's really happening politically, keep waving their little blue ones, nothing much is going to change...for the time being.

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Do you really think that if Labour were still in power they would be doing anything different??????
When will you get it into the very thick skull you've got........they are all the same. Not in Politics to make the lot of the common man(that's you and me) any easier......they are all in it to make their own lives comfy, and rich in every way, for their future....there are no poor politicians of any colour.

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If, after living through three consecutive Labour governments, you're still under the illusion that 'new' Labour give a flying fig about the ordinary folks in this country, you're even dafter than you come across in these threads.

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In Hyndburn we have a Labour M.P. who publicly states he believes in democracy, in that instance a referendum on European membership, and two weeks later votes to deny his constituents that right.

Despite there being overwhelming evidence that most people are desperate to have a say in their own futures.

The beloved party won his unswerving loyalty, in the hope it would help him climb the greasy pole to success.

The people he's supposed to represent, lost.

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we never had it so good under labour lower nhs waiting lists, cutting poverty, chances for the normal person in the street to get good jobs ,national minimum wage,workers rights,disabled peoples rightsand what do we get under the tories they are trying to erode workers right,taking us back into recession,making soldier redundent why they are still in afganahstan then use AS POLITICAL PAWNS THIS IS THATCHERS BRITAIN ALL OVER AGAIN anybody who says this goverment are doing a good job are off their rocker.deny deny thats all they do recession recession people have short memories;)

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just watched the news osbourne says this is the country for investment and jobs ha ha liar liar BBC News - RWE and E.On halt UK nuclear plans at Wylfa and Oldbury

Not much hope for you then?

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see you cant argue against it;)

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Most people know this government are doing a crap job, but its you thats off their rocker if yeh think it would be much better under Labour.:rolleyes:

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Oh dear.

As stated earlier, you've just proved yourself, once again, as being daft in the head.

Carry on.

Keep posting your stupidly one-sided propoganda.

Being so obviously daft, I suppose you're just too dim to realise it has just the opposite effect on here, to what you'd like.

Constantly being preached at, is a major turn-off, for the vast majority of folks on here.

When I can be bothered, I'll just carry on peeing on your chips.

Posting counteractive examples, by those you oppose, to illustrate just how blind, and foolish you are.

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well to me they did they improved my standard of living is why you would vote for a political party.by the way there are some halfwits representing the goverment on question time..lol are this goverment for real:confused:

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What about crime in this country under Labour, when they had three terms to address any problems?

Didn't we have the third consecutive Labour government at the time, when you'd fled the streets of Accrington, and said you were glad you'd already left, as the streets were unsafe, after some yet unknown person, persons, or creature, had attacked a dog?

You obviously thought the government weren't doing such a good job at the time, regarding law and order, in keeping our streets safe, if you were so busy staining your tartan trews brown.

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Oh, that's ok then.

Another case of 'I'm alright Jock'.

You did well, so don't give a damn about the many who didn't, and are therefore unable to make any unbiased, analytical judgements about politics.

You really are no different from the faithful little blinded Thatcherites, who thought they did ok, when they benefited from all the council houses being sold off.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs34/f/20...elaLaverne.gif

Yes, this Government is for real, it only seems to be in your version of politics that the fantasies of fairy tales exists.

Are you sitting comfortably?

Then I'll begin.

Once upon a time there was a brave and wonderful group of people called New Labour they ruled the land, all the people were so happy with their lot that they would never vote against such wisdom. Then the evil followers of the wicked witch of the 80's took the Land away with the help of a group of gnomes from the family of the lib dem's.
No one prospered not even in the land beyond the boundry of Hadrien.
In less than two years the land of milk and honey was transformed by their evil deeds...

So on so forth, if this tale goes the way of other such stories, it will take 100 years before everyone wakes up, kills the dragon, (which is a shame because for once the Welsh Independants were doing ok on their own), then we all lived blinkered forever after.

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tell me the many that didnt and tell me the ones that did i bet the latter would be true.the national minimum wage for a start;)

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I'm telling you nowt.

You are just too dim to take anything in, that I might have to say.

I'll just continue peeing on your chips.

Enjoy.

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Would they be hot chips straight from the fryer..or frozen chips heated up in the oven?... I mean you should take into account the new Pastie tax!

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Mc Len's in.

Now cocker-nee Stella's in.

Think I can hear by bed calling.

My eyelids have already been closing.

More than a few minutes with the Miliband Chuckle Brothers and I'll be sound asleep at the computer.

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Aw OK beddy times ...but do wake up for some of Jaysays profound posts on the state of the world in the morning.:alright:

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if you look at the official figures crime was down you cant say labour never did anything about crime.look at the tories now crime is rising because they are getting rid of half the police force who modernised the police force with new vehicles etc you cant say they didnt the proceeds of crime was a masterstroke. im not saying they were 100% perfect but they did do a lot of good.when was britain the country of perfection for crime before anyway:confused:

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Which all sound great until we have to start paying for it all which is what we appear to be doing now.

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No it wasn't.....it only looked like it was down. This was because they(the police and the government) changed the way that figures were collected and collated.

And because you got a good deal out of the last government doesn't mean that they were any good.
Look at the way immigration was handled. The hadn't a clue who was here, why they were here or how long they were staying.

The 10 pence rate of tax was doubled to 20 pence and that was when everything in the financial sector was supposed to be hunky dory(for me my tax doubled).........oh but silly me, I got a bus pas.
You are blinkered...plain and simple. As Boeing Guy readily tells us you never compalined once about policies that the NEW Labour government implemented, so we have no idea what you really thought of them, and it is said that distance(time) lends enchantment..........and I guess you have been ideologicall brainwashed to think that Labout are socialists and look after the working man.

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it only looked like it was down ha ha what kind of statement is that lol labour increased the bobby on the beat .fact;) immigration has always been like that and when the situation was getting worse they set up the uk border agency which the tories are decimating and will probably end up privatising .now we have more coming in per month now than we did under labour per month fact

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a worldwide recession now a uk recessions recovery is being hindered due to some clown called osborne .even the tory press are calling them halfwits Even I’m starting to wonder: what do this lot know about anything? - Telegraph

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Just about sume it up. :D

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Why? Is it too difficult for you to understand?
I thought I had been pretty clear in my post.........the way the figures were collected and collated made it seem like crime was down....some crimes were not even counted.....and we all know that you can prove pretty much what you want if you look at statistics.......if you ask the wrong questions...they you don't(surely) expect to get reliable answers.

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Tories are doing just fine for me.

(i) Kids are grown up.(no worries about child benefit)
(ii) I'm in good health. (no worries about the NHS)
(ii) I have a job. (no worries about being forced to do pretend work for my benefits)
(iv) I ain't a pensioner. (no worries about tax benefits being frozen)
(v) I don't have a disabled dependant. (no worries about funding being frozen and cut)
(vi) Personal tax bill has gone down ( because of (ii), (iv) and (v) )
(vii) I smoke (but get cheap tobacco that will continue to roll in because funding for Customs and Exicise is frozen)
(viii) I drink (but I know the multi-millionaire supermarket chairmen will sort out pricing over dinner at No. 10)
(ix) I can train people of any age to work for me for free under the apprenticeship scheme and pay them apprentice wages
(x) I'm not old and infirm (no worries about being sat in my own faeces waiting for underfunded care staff missing my 30 minute, toileting, medicating, bathing, cooking, feeding and house cleaning slot)

Unfortunately I had to queue up to fill my Ronson lighter today...but hey I guess we are all in it together so I'll just grin and bear it

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so if they collated and collected a different way whats to say crime wasnt down lol and another myth gone Home Office Immigration and asylum statistics released | Immigration Matters

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Well your an expert on halfwits seeing you've been one all your life

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even the tories dont like cameron and co If Ministers wish to confront the unions, tanker drivers are not the right way to do it The Tory Diary

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On This Day in 1984 the tories closed Chatham Dockyard , ending 437 years of Royal Navy presence in Chatham.and you say the tories arent the enemy within;)

On this day in 1867 you hadn't been born, just like the above statement, this means nothing.

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He's a nowhere man with nowhere to go

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tories the enemy from within the party who destroy familes and peoples lives so they can make the 1% richer.tories who are trying to destroy the fabric and infrastructure of british life

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then theres this plonker lol BBC News - Peter Cruddas secretly taped making Tory Union claims

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yes the head of the bbc is a tory lord.the bbc is managed by 2 boards the bbc trust and executive board.on the executive board there is a dr mike lynch who is also on the board of isabel healthcare ltd The same Dr Mike Lynch is also a director of Autonomy PLC, a computing company whose customers include Isabel Healthcare (!), Blue Cross Blue Shield (a health insurance firm), AstraZeneca, GlaxoSmithKline, and several other pharmaceutical companies. so this is why your news is being suppressed about the health bill on the bbc also The other person is the Chairman of the BBC Trust, Lord Patten. While he's not at the BBC, you can find him working as a non-executive director for Russell Reynolds Associates, a consulting firm that offers services in healthcare (amongst other things). The company's website includes a very sinister passage about the move towards private healthcare, and how business leaders must attempt to change the cultural reaction to privatisation: so her we have it the tory scum plans are out tories the enemy from within

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and heres some more proof The same Lord Patten is a European Advisory Board member for a company called Bridgepoint. Social Investigations have already investigated this company here. The gist is that the company has over £1.1 billion invested in private healthcare.

The same Lord Patten is European Adviser to Hutchison Whampoa Ltd, whose subsidiary, Hutchison China Meditech, is a fast-growing Chinese healthcare company. In a grim anticipation of the NHS bill's success, an article from the Daily Mail in 2011 advised investors: “Overall, Chi-Med is loss-making, reflecting heavy investment, but it should move into profit next year and the long-term outlook is very healthy.”

So we have two very senior BBC board members, both of whom have huge links with private healthcare. Could this be the reason for the under-reporting? It seems likely, but instinct tells me there might be even more to the story than this. cmon tories tell me im wrong now we know why this bill was forced through.

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Yada, yada, yada.

Why don't you start a poll, seeing if anyone bothers to read all the guff you post?

With a secondary question, asking if they are influenced by it.

I'd hazard a guess very few, if anyone, reads it, and if they are influenced, it's likely to be negatively.

Don't give up the day job.

When it comes to preaching, you're just not very good at it.

The church is deserted.

A little like support for Labour, around here.

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Nice bit of cut and paste as usual....but no attribution.
How can I tell....all but the last sentence has capital letters where they are supposed to be and punctuation.

I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find similar stories about the last Labour government......and the current shadow cabinet doesn't shine much as opposition.

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are you stupid ,maybe my grammars not the best but did you read it, did you get the message what the tories end game is. the last goverment is irrelevant in this this thread says tories.the last goverment didnt try and privatise the nhs and split the proceeds with their mates and there is a clear conflict of interest here.open your eyes these people are taking you for mugs.i really despair when people just dont get it.

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All the hospitals built by Labour were built under PFI which is now and for many years to come crippling the NHS, oh by the way the P in PFI is PRIVATE, dip stick

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You obviously are. You don't seem to grasp the fact that if you post your views in indigestible chunks of gobbledegook with a lack of capitals or punctuation NO ONE WILL READ THEM.

Is that plain enough for you?

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No, but you, clearly, are!

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I have just one thing to say. PFI.......no make that two......PFI - Labour!

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Sorry John...didn't see your post....but it says it all.......the money went to PRIVATE FIRMS...big businesses....the Labour party cronies...rich men made richer by their alliance with politicians...at our (the working man's) expense.

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But don't slip over into depression because then you'd have to use one of these privatised Ozzies you keep harking on about. ;)

Ah, Sir's depressed, of course we can treat you ! Will you be paying by cash or by card ? I'm sorry sir, but we don't take Jockanese poonds ! :D

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Of course no one reads them, but sometimes what he cuts 'n' pastes does make a pretty pattern on the page.

Like lace, made up of meaningless letters.

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:D:D lolol

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power to the truckers:D:D

You are wrong, the truckers should be able to get on with their lives without having to strike.
Power given to one small group of people, isn't power it is abuse of power.

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never a truer word said in jest:D if alex sa:dancedog:lmond gets his way

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The sooner the better

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but he wont because the majority of scots arent judgemental like yourself lol.i cant believe political dinosaurs like yourself exist,who think full nationalities all think the same any down with the tories a political war is here power to the truckers 'We can bring the government down': Truckers vow to halt Britain's traffic in support of striking tanker drivers by blockading refineries and motorways | Mail Online

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Your the biggest political dinosaur that comes on this site, I thought Mancie was bad enough but you take the biscuit, what I want to know is who's writting your script, no capital letters and no spelling mistakes, somebody must be feeding you the crap now

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This is de ja vu this shows the tories are living in the past.looks like there will be overtime for the police that are left.dont listen to the tories this is orchestrated they want to deflect deflect https://apps.facebook.com/theguardia...pes=news.reads

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The Tories are in effect a 'Zombie' party. They seem alive but are in fact dying from within.

The average age of a Conservative Party member is about 65. There is no fresh blood coming through in either the parliamentary party or in constituencies. The Young Conservatives, Conservative Students and Conservative Graduates bodies were all merged into obscurity in the late 1990s. The fact that they did not manage to gain an overall majority at the last election showed that they do not have popular support nationally.

As it stands they need a massive lead in the polls to even gain a slight majority and it just isn't happening. Problem is, they haven't renewed themselves like Labour did in the 80s and 90s. Even Tory activists were told by Theresa May at their annual conference that they were perceived as “the nasty party". They still haven't been detoxified.

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Still aint been detoxified? They never "Can" be,;)

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Yep you are right, they are Vampires - blood suckers going to suck the blood out the NHS! :dflam: :D
The tories before the election said they would not initiate Big Brother Surveilance! But the hypocrites are now doing exactly what they said they wouldn't!
Police and MI5 get power to watch you on the web - Home News - UK - The Independent

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Maybe now they are in power and get to know what is really going on with MI5 they are worried about what harm not having this power could do to the country.

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This is a very interesting story in the mail this morning, seems to sum up C'mon and friends to a tee really

Miliband aide filmed saying unemployment and inflation is a grubby dream for the Left | Mail Online

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I don't recall the stats but I recall that the Police have used Anti-terrorism laws on many occasions and not turned up any evidence - the issue is, they use them when they don't need to. So they can stop people under the excuse of terrorism and they do - this is fact! They can stop and search anybody under the excuse of terrorism and many people using camera's have been stopped and searched under this pretence!

"Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, said the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats had resisted greater surveillance powers when in opposition. "This is more ambitious than anything that has been done before," she told Sky News's Dermot Murnaghan. "The Coalition bound itself together in the language of civil liberties. Do they still mean it?"
SECURITY THEN AND NOW
June 2009: "Today we are in danger of living in a control state. Every month over 1,000 surveillance operations are carried out. The tentacles of the state can even rifle through your bins for juicy information." David Cameron
April 2012: "It is vital that police and security services are able to obtain communications data in certain circumstances to investigate serious crime and terrorism and to protect the public." Home Office spokesman"

For all we know an e-mail just mentioning the word Terrorism (regardless of context) may lead to the senders activities being monitored!

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Most of those people with cameras I have seen on youtube that get searched are doing it on purpose to wind the police up though.

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They are a few, some are tourists, and a few have been professional photographers with white skin!:rolleyes: The Police were told to ease off when the Tories first got in, it mainly occured in the last years of Gordon Browns reign as the PM!

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To be serious though, to me any measure taken which is likely to avoid another 7/7 occurring is fine, I hardly thing the security service will be that interested in a photograph of my grandson playing his new drum kit he got for his birthday. There will be specific targets and key words, which trigger investigation, besides that I've got nout hide so feel free, if you've done nout wrong there's nothing to fear.

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why dont they check up in these things:confused::confused: BBC News - Millions spent on apprentice firms without scrutiny

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Probably the same reason you don't use upper case;)

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morrisons ,3 year old company given 2.9 million to a security firm training people to paint. dodgy as dodge non existant training watch panorama now

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Are they training them to use whitewash as well? :) All politicians are good whitewashers - regardless of their persuasion!

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another one bites the dust BBC News - Charity chief quits government welfare panel over incapacity tests

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this is when the waiting lists will get longer.:( http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...s-nursing-cuts

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thank goodness I can't access that link........not on facebook!

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Please don't post links to stories on facebook as non members of facebook wont be able to read them. I have changed your link to a direct one on the Guardian site

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You can now I have changed his link to one from the guardian web site

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Thanks Neil. I thought it might be from the Guardian originally.

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Ya needn't have bothered who opens the links anyway;)

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Me jaysay , because the more info we can get on the corrupt politicians , the easier it is to get the info out

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Well you pee in the same pot and believe the same dribble, it has to be expected really, sad, very sad blinkered people, who think the ills of our country only stared on may 6th 2010, when really it was 13 years earlier;)

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Yawn .. you have no idea lol .. We are a point in time that has been in the making for a long time ....

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Well I seem to have a little more idea that you and your little scottish mate, I just can't understand how you can think that Brown and Blair ran this country successfully, they were an unmitigated disaster, just like Sonny Jim and good old Herold before them, totally economically incompetent, especially when they set about their scorched earth policy in the months leading up to the election

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Not once have i said Liebour was any good! in fact I cant stand the Marxist :mad: or any of the 3 main parties for that matter so dunno where you get that idea from

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Well you've a very strange way of working then Wrighty:rolleyes:

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They are bringing back the Right to Buy - another change in policy that they had before the election. They are putting up the maximum discount to £75,000! This is to generate money to build new housing so they say! :hidewall: The most anyone get get discounted off their council property is 70% under new laws I think New Labour reduced it massively to about 20% but don't quote me fully on that one but it was low! Also there is a scam that some mortgage companies have - they lend you the money to buy, then give you a cash lump some to vacate the premises and they have the ownership!

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Well they'll be able to build you an higher wall to hide behind:rolleyes:

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I don't always open the links, but when I do, I frequently find that the poster has totally misread the article and only posted because of some contentious headline........after all it is what newspapers do to get your attention.

I don't think you need to do much searching for information that politicians would make good lawn food(fisons - fertilizer - doo-doo).
It seems that their lives are totally divorced from the reality of the electorate....and what is more they are really not too interested in what the electorate thinks or wants....as long as they are OK. That is all tha matters.

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True, but very often I like to add a balancing counter-post, in the interest of fairness.

Seeing as they're all as bad as each other.

I used to do it when the forum had a few active Tory propagandists.

But they're as scarce as hen's teeth on here nowadays.

More likely to see a politican, spouting from his, or her, Accy Web soapbox.

Result.

Give, give, give.

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A4e job agency who is atm being investigated for fraud Is being awarded a major government contract A4e in line for major government contract | UK news | The Guardian

The women who was running it , Emma Harrison quit as chair of A4e following allegations of fraud at the company

Same crap , different day

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Yup.

Although Harrison's company A4e, started running welfare-to-work schemes under New Labour.

She was one of Channel 4's original Secret Millionaires.

The only secret...it was the tax payers' millions, she was playing Lady Bountiful with.

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Ah so it all started under the Liebour party .. enough said eh :rolleyes:

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Oh yes.

Started off with New Labour's backing.