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http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...IPgmQuS1SpiY4A

Looks like your football club is run on the same premise as Labour Ran the Country, on a wing and a prayer;)

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Probably, Jay, but I would say you're on very thin ice there! ;)

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Would appear there's no ice at all Wyn they've fallen it the water;) and are coming up for air for the third time:rolleyes:

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Not advisable to gloat over other football clubs' misfortunes, especially at the moment, mate! ;)

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Not misfortunes Wyn absolute bloody stupidity, like whats happening at my club, but a club the size and standing of Rangers its mind blowing, I know its only Micky mouse football but the way money has been thrown about like confetti, just to out do your only opponents is daft and reckless. At Ewood its lack of promised investment and transparency that's the problem and its only going to end one way

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So what you're trying to tell us is that Venkys are running Rovers in the same way the Tories are running the country??;):D

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The Tories aren't running the country its was the coalition that last time I looked ;)

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Seems they aren't even running themselves to a casual observer, tail wagging the Dog, EU & all that ?

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looks like shes been caught out again .so much for outsourcing being viable and honest Welfare boss Emma Harrison made a pile renting out her stately home to A4E | Politics | The Observer just like their promises on immigration ohh i forgot they sacked half the staff Immigration to fall in 2012 — but still not on track to hit the Tory target | The Spectator

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Yeh but were the half they sacked immigrants?:hehetable

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Ya Jocks:D

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wow the tories are more left wing than labour Migrant blow to PM | The Sun |News|Politics

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Will the penny never drop wi you cmon? they are all the same.:rolleyes:

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The penny can drop he's a jock and bankrupt;)

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but david cameron knew this was happening and still appointed her:confused:

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Who?

Cherie Blair?

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Ya and Tony and Gordon kept appointing that swindler Mandy

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Mandy Rice-Davis? What are you on Jay?

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He's got his Barry Manilow iPod stuck in again.

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Is that the 78rpm one with the handle and the enormous trumpet with ebony stringing to the deck? I always liked that on him. it makes him look so distinguished, don't you think?

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He has hours of fun.

Crankin' away, on his Little Nipper.

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I was refaring to the noble Lord Mandalson from monkey land Bob, not randy mandy from Llanelli:D

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Sums it up quite well. :rolleyes:

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while the nhs goes down the tube people sit and talk s***:eek:

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Oh don't put yourself down like that.

There's been the odd occasion when you've said something which makes a little sense.

O.K. Rindy, you pride yourself as the AccyWeb archivist, spare a day or so , go through his posts and prove it!

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A 'day or so' might be pushing it.

Give me a week.

:D

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WHEN:confused:

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part of the tory sinking ship Flagship 'Big Society' charity closes... due to lack of funds - Mirror Online

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Do you know him?

He's Scottish,

Diary: After one fracas, MP has another scandal to fight - Diary - People - The Independent

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Mirror on line

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dodgy as dodge;):D

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Do you not mean McDodge?

http://www.myemoticons.com/images/wo...ports/kilt.gif

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i really do despair i wonder what company will get the contracts privatising the police is a step too far https://apps.facebook.com/theguardia...ty-firms-crime

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Guardian

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the telegraph Police force becomes first in country to privatise 999 calls - Telegraph the shareholder wins again what a disgrace this is the real threat to civil liberties whats to stop if its against shareholders interest:eek::eek:

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Say goodbye to your sky tv ,holidays,football etc because when the nhs bill comes to fruitition they will be gradually start introducing charges to certain operations by private firms and the list will grow monthly .people who support this bill are misguided,you are supporting the foundations of privatised health service run by the health insurance firms who will be invested in by the private equity firms.

Why should I say goodbye to anything?

You don't know me, maybe I'm part of the 1% that owns all the wealth?

Perhaps you should be glad I've put up with you for so long?

Could it be we are overdue for a really good cull of your half baked ideas?

Ask Mags, she knows, we know who you are.

Come the revolution you are what will be against the wall.

Not because we don't need workers, we just don't need dumb asses.

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They have all these things in hospital?

Rather excessive, if all you have is a boil that needs lancing.

I think we should say goodbye to them.

Just as you'll be saying goodbye to the NHS, once your country votes for independence.

After which you'll be saying hello to your new health care system.

A woman on a bike called Bridie, with an emergency fried Mars bar, and a bottle of Buckfast, in her basket.

;)

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Oh....no, my pictorial imagination is taking over again.....G, I do wish you wouldn't do this to me........my knickers are never going to dry!

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Are you looking Dr. W.E. Weese's clinic?

It's on the second floor, in the new wing.

I'll get the mop, and follow you up.

:D

Not another trailer? I won't be watching the full programme.

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Give it a chance.

Sunday evenings.

BBC.

Period drama.

Set in the nineteen nineties.

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Now stop it you two...I'm leaking at both ends now.....pass me that mop and a bit of dettol.

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Well considered clowns like you were spouting exactly the same thing in 1982, 30 years ago, please don't ever take up clairvoyance, or you'll have to cut down on the buckfast, which you've quite obviously been drinking every time you come on here. Bit of advice give it up your flogging a dead horse:hesoff:

Just one more orifice to go and we've done the triple.

Unless...


We could also loosen her ear wax???

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Oy....both of you, don't go pushing your luck!

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lib.cons,arrrgh,:eek:trying to carry on were maggie left off:mad:

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Seems funny that we always hit hard times after years of Labour Live now pay later policies, its simple economics, if you get yourself in debt up to your neck, somehow you have to get out and anybody who thinks you can do that by carry on borrowing is living on cloud cuckoo land

There must be something in that,
You never seem to have the funds to replace that scratched record you keep playing.

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No Labour spent it all, there's nout left:rolleyes:

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a worldwide recession created by labour your having a laugh;) just before labour left the uk were the only western country coming out of recession.cue when the tories come in unemployment starts rising again and the rest of the big hitters are coming out of recession.you havent gat a clue with your dinosaur politics;)

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Whatever your drinking I'll have some, or no I won't bother or I'll end up a brain dead clown too

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as another 10,000 jobs set to go and the return of 95% mortgage:rolleyes:

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What no link:eek:

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no loads of sausages:p

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There's nowt left because Maggie flogged it all off. Railways, Gas, Electric, etc., etc. What did Harold McMillan accuse her of, selling off the family silver?
Cue the response about the one-eyed jock flogging off the gold.;)

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Some seem to forget that fact, also flogged off the council house stock.

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See your living in the right place:rolleyes:

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and as unemployment keeps rising BBC News - UK unemployment rises by 28,000

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Ya Gordon Brown has a lot to answer for;)

Not all that good on predictions are you?
Only two days ago you claimed:-

Perhaps if you had kept quiet 18,000 might still be working, but as we know the powers that be hang on your every word, so if Stanley Jock say's things are bad, things must be bad.
We'd better throw out a few more workers!

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yep the return of 95% mortgages i was right:p 18,000 out not bad:p privatised water utilities i was right BBC News - Camelford water poisoning: Authority 'gambled with lives'..

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You fool yourself, you've never been right yet, until you accept that this country was left in a hell of a mess by your bosom buddy Gordon and his little Darling, then anything you post on here is futile, you only started post on politics after May 6th 2010, so obviously you were quite happy to cheer Gordon on while he was pouring the British economy down the toilet, more shame on you

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we were coming out of recession unemployment coming down then cameron and obsbourne destroyed the revival the figures speak for themselves they tried telling us this

but this is the truth.how much money has been spent on their half wit ideology which destroyed the country last time.cameron couldnt even stay in the country when his best buddy of 30 years got arrested.

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Err...just one problem with this, Cmon...the South West Water Authority was a state owned utility when the poisoning happened.

Have another go.

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Just watched a programme on T.V. n was amazed to learn the E.U. Human Rights idea eminated from a Tory, Winston Churchill in 1948, n came to fruition in 1950 by another un.:( Wonder why good ole David n Co never mention that fact whilst saying its no good?:rolleyes:

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yes and they kept quiet because it was getting privatised the next year .just look at the local tory mp who promised and never delivered.if they werent concentrating and spending millions selling it off and trying to cover it up.they were told not to tell the public because of the ensuing privatised company.

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Camelford water pollution incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia more than one person mentioned it was a cover up because they didnt want to hinder the authority getting privatised.

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I suspect they kept quiet because he management was unaware of the scale of the problem or they were trying to avoid a charge of criminal negligence thrown against them. The fact remains that this company was in the public sector at the time and that is something that you cannot deny.

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Oh no it wasn't was it, bet or friend didn't realise or even know that little fact

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Cashy there's nothing wrong with the human rights act, just the way its aloud to be used, it was never intended to allow criminals to get the vote or people living here without justification, its now probably the most misused legislation in use

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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

These are five interesting statments made by an economics professor........I do not take credit for them, (after all I only found them) but I thought that they may just provide something of interest for those reading this thread.

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When I was reading that Margaret, I though hell you've missed your vocasion,:D The only problem there Margaret is C'Mon won't understand a word, economics ain't his strong suit:rolleyes:

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Wrong, whats not right is its been lumped together wi every other E.U. member, Some of those members dont really give a toss about human rights,so unless they all agree (very Unlikely) yeh can never change it. We need our OWN bill of rights.

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Spot on Cashy....and we need them to be controlled by judges in this country....not Strasbourg.

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Cashy even if we did have or own Bill of rights we would still be governed by the European act, its nothing to do with the EU, we would still come second best, its the European court that needs changing and made to stick to what it was first introduced for, not a charter for evading justice

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Other countries ignore the human rights(as well as other EU legislation and rules) they don't like...nothing happens to them....but the UK is slavish in its adherence to the rules....I'm sure if it did something wrong it would dob itself in

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It is long past the time when we should be looking out for the interests of our own people....rather than those who want to come and dip their bread in our gravy.

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What a crap reason.:rolleyes: Yeh can't change it n yeh know it. :rolleyes: Its a good enough reason to get out of the whole sheebang.

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Again, I'm with you Cashy.......though I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

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That's just it cashy you can't opt out, its nothing to do with the European Union, even if we were stand alone, people would still be able to take their case to the European court of human rights

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They could take it were the hell they want if we withdrew simple as.:rolleyes:

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And any adjudication made by that court would be binding in Britain

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Bull tell that to some members of the E.U.:rolleyes:

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Think the points Marge P made in post 1173, stem from this, I also received it as an e-mail from a friend, enjoy folks. :)

Subject: Fw: Lesson in Socialism

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (Substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
Could not be any simpler than that.

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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My sister e-mailed just the 5 sentences.........she probably thought I wouldn't read the rest.

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Praise be to the Lord!...here's the original quote by Adrian Rogers the Pastor of a Baptist Church of Memphis Tennesse who died in 2005 (and not widely known as an "expert on economics :D

“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

By the late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931- 2005, former Pastor Bellview Baptist Church, Memphis, T

Pastor Adrian Rogers on Socialism

Maybe the Pastor did not take into account a government that has a policy of creating unemployment by throwing an extra half a million people on the dole!

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Only half a million? yeh aint seen nothing yet.;)

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Maybe you should do a little research on what you get in the mail before you take it as "Gospel" :)

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Obama was not even on the radar when this god fearing Pastor made his speech before 2005...like I say maybe you should do more research before posting total kak.

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Research not required Mancie, I didn't say anything in one direction or the other, just that, this is what I received in a mail, the origins of which are irrelevant it is the content which is important, something my friend, you sometimes appear to forget when you post your "Kak". ;)

Still, thank you for confirming the texts author, but again you're overlooking the fact that the content calls into question your dogmatic faith in labour/Socialism & in doing so you've happily assisted (unwittingly) all those who'd pull your arguments apart every time, so in your own words "Do some more research". One-upmanship is an awkward game to play fella. :)

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why would I need to research anything?

I posted something which I thought was of interest....something to stimulate discussion.
I didn't cut and paste some sensationalist headline like some members do....no names....no pack drill.

It seemed to me to have some seeds of truth in it, where ever it came from.

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And DaveinGermany posted an explanation of why socialism doesn't work in terms even the simplest person can understand.....thanks Son!

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The pastor wasn't taking into account any government.

He was just stating why socialism doesn't work, if you really want the reasons, you only have to look at sentences 2 and 3......but my guess is you don't want the reasons, as they take away all credibility from you arguments.

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Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

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Mancie does not want to listen to anything which contradict his stupid left wing ideology, you should know that by now Margaret, socialism doesn't work because those who profess it won't let it

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All well n good knocking socialism, but NONE of the ideaolgys work n never will, cos of greed n self interest.:rolleyes:

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Thus the inception of the Socialist Workers Party, whose gospel is they don't work on any day that has a "Y" in its spelling;) well somebody has to make the posters and stand on street corners holding um:rolleyes:

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One can say the same about envy and jealousy too ;)