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Your five-point guide to the Ed Balls files | The Spectator
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Labour spending: Gordon Brown and Ed Balls ignored warnings and wasted billions - Telegraph
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if this is the price, selling for peanuts i just dont get it ?? Top brass fury as US buys Harriers for peanuts | The Sun |News|Campaigns|Our Boys
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now the army are in revolt Hundreds of Army's best soldiers apply for redundancy - Telegraph while the tories still spend billions on their friends..the tories are just asset strippers:(
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it gets more idiotic by the day replacing british pilots with foriegn ones i just dont get it talking about cheap labour this takes the biscuit Sacked RAF pilots replaced by foreign personnel - Telegraph :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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and david cameron helping his mates out again he thinks he is invincible:o:o The FactCheck Blog
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threatening his own mps ive pasted because you wouldnt believe me Tory MP Mark Pritchard claims he was threatened by Prime Minister's office to back down over circus animal ban vote - mirror.co.uk
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The decision to retire the Harrier was wrong. Unfortunately the Sea Harrier had already been retied by the last government back in 2002, making the Aircraft Carriers useless, they were withdrawn in 2006.
It was the Sea Harrier that saw action in the Falklands. The Land Harrier is not designed for sea use and does not have the necessary protection for salt water conditions. If I was a sacked RAF trainee pilot, or a redundant RAF pilot, I know what I would do.....Join Cathy, Emirates, Virgin, BA, or any other legacy airline around the world, less exciting, but tons more money. I don't blame squadies wanting to leave the Army, after many many years of under supply and lack of equipment (are you listening Mr Bliar:eek:), being sent to fight a war, that was built on a lie regarding 45 minutes and sexing up of evidence, remember that???, who would not want to get out while they were still alive. Unfortunately I don't believe I have seen a government in the 41 years I have been on this planet that gives a damm about the vast majority of the population..:D As they say: Crisis what crisis, Things can only get better, Are you thinking what we're thinking?, Don't let him take Britain back to the 1980s, "Fire up the Quattro. It's time for change, New Labour, New Danger, We are all in this together. Feel free to add to this cmon:D |
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There is no government on earth that gets everything right for every one of the people who voted for it.....and remember lots of people didn't vote for this particular shade of government.
The fact of the matter is that this government( and had it been a Labour Government it would have been the exactly same) inherited a poison chalice. A country who was up to the eyeballs in debt because of previous lax financial policies......not to mention all the other problems(so I won't). Labour says it wouldn't do what this coalition is doing, but....as I have said before. You can say anything you like when in opposition, because you know the theory wont be tested in the practical sense. This is my last post to this thread.........I do not feel that replying to links posted from newspapers/news sites etc, with little more than a line of comment makes for anything of a discussion. It is just lazy posting.....not discussion. |
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Once again unadulterated sensationalism on behalf of C'mon, attention grabbing headlines but read the text :rolleyes: You really are unbelievable with your affected outrage ! Read the bluddy thing !
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who mentioned labour i never, lazy posting ha ha i cant believe anybody is agreeing with what david cameron is doing as another high street name goes into administration as it says the uk arm of the company is proof of the pudding that camerons policies are killing britain.obama pupmed more money into the american economy and their economy is growing cameron takes it out and we are heading for a double dip ..17,000 housing repossesions from jan to may ..
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BBC News - Habitat stores enter administration as part of sale look at the chart and another firm owned by a private equity firm :rolleyes:
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No matter what this disaster of a government get up to there will be the usual mob ready to defend them or simply blame the last lot .. I mean come on we have a German Dave.(and we all know what sort of "socialism" they believe in);).. the bloke from Ossie who benefited more from the last government than Greece will ever do...and then the "neutral" head nurse who more or less tells you to shut up because she knows best... give up mate :D |
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no no no never:D:D:D
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theres another 250 jobs to go ,in the coastgaurd putting lives in danger.whatever you do stay away from the coast because if your in danger youll have to wait an hour or more longer:eek: The FactCheck Blog - Minister is all at sea over coastguard cuts
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BBC News - Labour lost touch with public and members - Ed Miliband
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Thought you said you wouldn't post any more in this thread Jay. :eek::D:D:D:D
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I have stated elsewhere in other threads that I don't agree, with some of the measures the present Coalition Government are doing, despite that to all intents & purposes it's being run by "The Damned Tories" ! But Your cherished Labour wouldn't have been any better as they too would've had to share the platform with the Lib-dems for them to seriously have had any chance of continued tenure in office. But as MC Broon was in charge there was no chance. Surely then If they'd have been the good Socialists you espouse them to be, quite simply for the good of the people & benefit & equality for all (the basic ground tenet of Socialism) McBroon & those associated with his despotic reign would've stepped aside for the benefit of all ? Er, I didn't see that happening ! In fact quite the opposite transpired it was more akin to the Roman senate of 44 BC ! Et tu, Brute ? ;) |
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A U-turn ??? :eek: Happy now C'mon & Mancie, a true Tory & no doubts an emulation of number 10 perhaps ? What's that phrase again ? ...... Ah yes, after a period of consultation ! ;) Sorry Jay, couldn't resist Mate ! But before the Trotsky twins start to gloat have a read of this, from the Grauniad of all Dailies ! :eek: :- U-turns are David Cameron's strength ? and may win him an election | Matt Grist | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk |
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I just assumed the Peoples' Nancie, and cumonEileen, are Tory activists.
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you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum
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Jaysay, since you posted directly after him? Is this the caring face of the political left? Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health? Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight. Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life. A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness. Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism. Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme. Well done. |
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no matter how you twist i havent mentioned labour,and if people are still trying to blame the last goverment how come 50% of tory policy has been u turned and ttheyve sent more than a billion pound abroad;)
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And again ! You're bleating on about not mentioning Labour can you please try & be a little more, precise, concise, definitive as to the point you're trying to make ! Then maybe we can give you a straight answer/reply. :confused: |
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Tell you what, let's start from scratch shall we ? You insist you haven't mentioned Labour fine, but all your arguments have been against the coalition, but to suit your purposes you've used the expression Tories/Cameron etc, etc thereby confirming your revulsion of all things Tory. The fact that it's a coalition running the country means their partners should also come in for derision & on occasion you've done so thereby also confirming your contempt for the Libdems & Clegg.
So by simple elementary deduction you are howling with indignation from a Labour standpoint ! Am I wrong ? Therefore to counter your limp arguments examples of Labour ineptitude & incompetence are held up as vindication to balance the argument (are you still managing to comprehend ?) Where some possible confusion (on your part not mine) could have arisen is in your statement "it gets more idiotic by the day replacing british pilots with foriegn ones i just dont get it talking about cheap labour this takes the biscuit Sacked RAF pilots replaced by foreign personnel - Telegraph :mad::mad::mad:":mad: Here you use the word Labour but in the context of work & not politics my reply to which was "What cheap labour ? The courses are being filled by other nations & they're paying, it'd be the same as you crossing the border to take driving lessons (read the article)."Also using the work context in this instance so you see I haven't used labour in the political sense so any twisting is of your own doing. ;) Now we're bang up to date can we now maybe carry on with a sensible discussion ? |
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ok start from scratch the last labour goverment werent perfect.
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Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
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Confirming this attack was aimed ay Jaysay? The silence speaks volumes, sadly. You carry on posting your comfortingly lazy links. www.sameoldboringtripe.com ;) |
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Marvellous, but if you hadn't been so intentionally inflammatory with your title "The Tories" & initial statement (just a quick reminder) "Anyting they do is a cock up..." perhaps the following 200+ posts wouldn't have been so acrimonious & degenerated into a slanging match about who's worse. I agree that some of the decisions made by those in power have been atrocious & in all honesty can't see the benefit to the British people, but these measures have been brought about by the present Coalition Government due to the failings & weaknesses of past (I don't just mean labour also the Tories before them) poorly led & mediocre parties. Had we had some Politicians of strength, determined resolve & backbone the UK would definitely not be the miserable little Island it is now sitting in the shadow of Europe & America. The once renowned Bulldog spirit of the British people, which at one time saw us controlling half the world & its resources, defend against major tyranny twice in the 20th Century with the associated loss to our Countries future due to the sacrifice of our military men, has gradually aided the decline of the Great British way of life & in the later more (peaceful ?) part of the 20th Century our gains & pride have been further eroded by self serving career politicians of all stripes. Therein lies the true failings of the UK, its feeble subservient political classes & until they are eradicated the UK will slip further into the mire ! |
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Is this the caring face of the political left? Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health? Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight. Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life. A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness. Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism. Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme. Well done. Every man or women in this country should have proper care when needed and I'd say people in that position should be given more help both financial and medical .. .if that means higher taxes or if the country needs to borrow to help our own when they need it so be it I have no problem. I do have a problem when people who took full advantage of the benifits that were in real terms increased after 1997 are now keen on the idea that this government should cut the income of the less well off (wether it be the low paid, those on benifits or tax credits) ..of a sudden it seems we have been spending to much on are ill people and the old or infirm. If that makes me a left wing militant unsocialist self pitying thatcherite'' fair enough |
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But thanks awfully for chipping in, with your indecipherable musings. If you're not seeing double by now, you could possibly see, and read that the question was asked of your other half, cmonatissue. |
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another 15,000 jobs to go at loyds 15 very large high street names on a knife edge what is plan b ??? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13971159 plus if you read the bit at the bottom they are well just not them every bank is going to charge you for financial advice which is not at the top of the news agenda
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CumonEileen! Cat got your tongue? Enough, of yet more, lazy, boring links. Answer the question. Who were you referring to? |
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Another "good day" to bury bad news.
Not the main news of the day when we have some right wing nutcase murders in Norway.. but this item is about British people trying to fight for thier jobs.. yet another example of this governments inept and downright clueless approach to the future of manufacturing in this country... I'll say they should be thrown out! David Cameron in a meeting with Derbyshire MPs earlier in the week, reiterated the government's position that it was legally bound by the terms of the tendering process What a disgrace.. Cameron told the electorate he would do away with all this rubbish,,and he has done nowt! BBC News - Bombardier march in Derby demands contract rethink |
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We also had the promise that petrol prices would be capped.. what happend?.. nowt..we were told household energy prices would be "under strick control"..what happenend ..nowt
We were told the Police force would not suffer losses..what happend...17,000 less Police.. We were told no care homes for the elderly would be affected by cuts.. what happenend..all of a sudden the old and infirm are under threat Not a good CV for this government.. or is it just me? |
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DONT FORGET 17,000 soldiers for the dole:mad:
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Presenting for your entertainment and delight...the fabulous Karl Marx Brothers!
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don't you think it best if we let these two talk to one another?
They are in accord over everything it seems, so there will be no disagreements....and basically I can't be bothered with this thread any more......it just goes round and around over the same old ground...same old, same old. Boring! |
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There was once a chap who regularly wrote letters to the Observer, signing himself the Socialist Workers Party, he then change it to the Socialist Party of Great Britain, when somebody pointed out that he hadn't worked for 25 years:rolleyes::D |
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Mewling Mancie & Mini mewling Mancie ! Starring in "Whining on forever" ;) Wonder if Dame Shirley would be up for a reworking of the original title song ? |
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I can't see either of them qualifying to wear the Red Beret.........Red noses maybe?
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where does it end BBC News - British army 'faces thousands more job losses'
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i was better off under labour now the worjking class is taking the hit for the tory scum;) Britain's social elastic is almost at snapping point | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian
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and keep blaming the last goverment its too late to do that the tories have been in power long enough to make a difference yes they have made a difference high inflation more unemployed privatising the nhs this just the beginning handing their donors billions of pounds in contracts thats not saving money in fact their policies are increasing the countries debt
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Renewed concern about Atos medical assessments | Society | The Guardian Atos acquires Siemens IT Solutions and Services - NDTV Profit theres a connection here, wonder why the same companies have won all the goverment contracts so much for competition just more evidence they are lining their donors pockets with billions of pounds of contracts
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In all seriousness, Mancie, although I like to characterize you and C'mon as classic "Citizen Smith" types, a constantly recurring theme of mine (to the point of tedium, some might say) is that I'd like to see MORE leftwing/Labour types arguing their point of view on here. Why don't Graham, Bernard, Claytonender, Clare Pritchard, Ken and others of a similar persuasion come on here and present a reasoned critique of the present government and, more importantly, suggest an alternative? I'd probably agree with some of their views. What winds people up (and to be fair,this is more C'mon's approach than yours) is a post consisting of a few garbled words followed by a link to some newspaper article. So come on, Labour party supporters, fight your corner! :) |
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Wyn, it would be lovely to have a good old fashioned debate on here, with some of those mentioned.
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the proof is in the pudding what is plan b:rolleyes:BBC News - GDP figures expected to show the UK economy has slowed
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John....I think he might have two brain cells...it is just that one of them is in 'inhibitary mode'(not functioning).
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What I'd like to see is a ruling government, be it coalition or single party that puts the peoples opinions & concerns at the forefront of everything they do & working towards delivering exactly what people want as opposed to politicians lining their own nests & catering for the interests of their associates. |
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Me too son....But I reckon I might just die waiting for it to happen.
There is no political party that cares much for the hope, opinions or thoughts of the electorate........They are all cut from the same old musty bit of cloth....there is very little difference between what they do(which is, once in office, any old thing they want.... regardless of their promises) They spend time and energy back biting, name calling and point scoring......this energy could be better used to think up some relevant realistic plans to drag the UK out of the EU, close the gates to scroungers from other countries, and sort out the problems that beset the country. (not a cut and paste to be seen) |
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Economic growth from such a deep recession was always going to be choppy. There's nothing at all to suggest that an alternative plan to reducing the deficit would work better, it may even have delivered us worse growth figures, perhaps even negative growth. Not dealing with the deficit hasn't exactly gone well for Greece and Portugal. |
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I am just sick of politicians saying one thing and doing another......not listening to the electorate on the things that the electorate consider to be important......I am fed up of them treating us all like we cannot use our critical thought processes......of them living high on the hog, while we struggle to make ends meet.......Spending money we cannot afford on things like the recent 'Happiness Index'.......what on earth was that all about? And it cost us - the tax payer, 2 million pounds(or at least that is what is reported). What kind of idiot spends money on something that an 11 year old could probably tell you? |
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