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jaysay 10-06-2011 09:43

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Your five-point guide to the Ed Balls files | The Spectator
Is it any wonder this country ended up in a complete mess when the Government were more interested in infighting than handling the crisis after the 7/7 bombings

jaysay 11-06-2011 10:00

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Labour spending: Gordon Brown and Ed Balls ignored warnings and wasted billions - Telegraph

Well they were told it was a balls up, but Gordy and Ed wouldn't have it, now we're paying the price

cmonstanley 18-06-2011 10:24

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if this is the price, selling for peanuts i just dont get it ?? Top brass fury as US buys Harriers for peanuts | The Sun |News|Campaigns|Our Boys

cmonstanley 18-06-2011 10:53

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now the army are in revolt Hundreds of Army's best soldiers apply for redundancy - Telegraph while the tories still spend billions on their friends..the tories are just asset strippers:(

jaysay 18-06-2011 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 912918)
now the army are in revolt Hundreds of Army's best soldiers apply for redundancy - Telegraph while the tories still spend billions on their friends..the tories are just asset strippers:(

What assets, Gordon Bloody Brown made sure we had none years ago the prat

cmonstanley 23-06-2011 23:09

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it gets more idiotic by the day replacing british pilots with foriegn ones i just dont get it talking about cheap labour this takes the biscuit Sacked RAF pilots replaced by foreign personnel - Telegraph :mad::mad::mad::mad:

cmonstanley 23-06-2011 23:12

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and david cameron helping his mates out again he thinks he is invincible:o:o The FactCheck Blog

cmonstanley 23-06-2011 23:15

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threatening his own mps ive pasted because you wouldnt believe me Tory MP Mark Pritchard claims he was threatened by Prime Minister's office to back down over circus animal ban vote - mirror.co.uk

Boeing Guy 24-06-2011 08:03

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The decision to retire the Harrier was wrong. Unfortunately the Sea Harrier had already been retied by the last government back in 2002, making the Aircraft Carriers useless, they were withdrawn in 2006.
It was the Sea Harrier that saw action in the Falklands.

The Land Harrier is not designed for sea use and does not have the necessary protection for salt water conditions.

If I was a sacked RAF trainee pilot, or a redundant RAF pilot, I know what I would do.....Join Cathy, Emirates, Virgin, BA, or any other legacy airline around the world, less exciting, but tons more money.

I don't blame squadies wanting to leave the Army, after many many years of under supply and lack of equipment (are you listening Mr Bliar:eek:), being sent to fight a war, that was built on a lie regarding 45 minutes and sexing up of evidence, remember that???, who would not want to get out while they were still alive.

Unfortunately I don't believe I have seen a government in the 41 years I have been on this planet that gives a damm about the vast majority of the population..:D



As they say:
Crisis what crisis,
Things can only get better,
Are you thinking what we're thinking?,
Don't let him take Britain back to the 1980s,
"Fire up the Quattro. It's time for change,
New Labour, New Danger,
We are all in this together.
Feel free to add to this cmon:D

Margaret Pilkington 24-06-2011 08:19

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There is no government on earth that gets everything right for every one of the people who voted for it.....and remember lots of people didn't vote for this particular shade of government.
The fact of the matter is that this government( and had it been a Labour Government it would have been the exactly same) inherited a poison chalice.
A country who was up to the eyeballs in debt because of previous lax financial policies......not to mention all the other problems(so I won't).
Labour says it wouldn't do what this coalition is doing, but....as I have said before. You can say anything you like when in opposition, because you know the theory wont be tested in the practical sense.
This is my last post to this thread.........I do not feel that replying to links posted from newspapers/news sites etc, with little more than a line of comment makes for anything of a discussion. It is just lazy posting.....not discussion.

jaysay 24-06-2011 08:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 913988)
There is no government on earth that gets everything right for every one of the people who voted for it.....and remember lots of people didn't vote for this particular shade of government.
The fact of the matter is that this government( and had it been a Labour Government it would have been the exactly same) inherited a poison chalice.
A country who was up to the eyeballs in debt because of previous lax financial policies......not to mention all the other problems(so I won't).
Labour says it wouldn't do what this coalition is doing, but....as I have said before. You can say anything you like when in opposition, because you know the theory wont be tested in the practical sense.
This is my last post to this thread.........I do not feel that replying to links posted from newspapers/news sites etc, with little more than a line of comment makes for anything of a discussion. It is just lazy posting.....not discussion.

Totally agree Margaret, my last post too, I'll just let the scottish numpty and the mad Manc leave it to themselves, they love hearing themselves talk anyway

DaveinGermany 24-06-2011 11:45

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Once again unadulterated sensationalism on behalf of C'mon, attention grabbing headlines but read the text :rolleyes: You really are unbelievable with your affected outrage ! Read the bluddy thing !

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 913976)
it gets more idiotic by the day replacing british pilots with foriegn ones i just dont get it talking about cheap labour this takes the biscuit :mad::mad::mad::mad:

What cheap labour ? The courses are being filled by other nations & they're paying, it'd be the same as you crossing the border to take driving lessons (read the article).

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 913978)

As to the above, you really should think first before yapping so loudly, do any of the following make you feel uncomfortable ? Pots & Kettles my friend, Pots & kettles ! :rolleyes:

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source...nd8KVg&cad=rja


Note the comment "AGAIN !"

Gordon Brown hit by fresh bullying allegations | Politics | The Guardian



cmonstanley 24-06-2011 17:52

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who mentioned labour i never, lazy posting ha ha i cant believe anybody is agreeing with what david cameron is doing as another high street name goes into administration as it says the uk arm of the company is proof of the pudding that camerons policies are killing britain.obama pupmed more money into the american economy and their economy is growing cameron takes it out and we are heading for a double dip ..17,000 housing repossesions from jan to may ..

DaveinGermany 24-06-2011 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914056)
who mentioned labour i never - as another high street name goes into administration - 17,000 housing repossesions from jan to may ..

What are you gibbering on about ?? Been at the Special Brew already ?? You've posted & I can't make head nor tail of where you're coming from, perhaps a lay down in a darkened room might put your diminutive brain in to some semblance of balance, when it is do come back & try again. Mind you it may be rather difficult as the thinking capacity has been somewhat reduced to fit all the Socialist, Labourite dogma you slavishly keep spewing forth.

Benipete 24-06-2011 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914056)
who mentioned labour i never, lazy posting ha ha i cant believe anybody is agreeing with what david cameron is doing as another high street name goes into administration as it says the uk arm of the company is proof of the pudding that camerons policies are killing britain.obama pupmed more money into the american economy and their economy is growing cameron takes it out and we are heading for a double dip ..17,000 housing repossesions from jan to may ..

Are you putting to much salt on your porridge?:hehetable

Eric 24-06-2011 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914056)
who mentioned labour i never, lazy posting ha ha i cant believe anybody is agreeing with what david cameron is doing as another high street name goes into administration as it says the uk arm of the company is proof of the pudding that camerons policies are killing britain.obama pupmed more money into the american economy and their economy is growing cameron takes it out and we are heading for a double dip ..17,000 housing repossesions from jan to may ..

I can't agree that the US economy is in even goodish (like that word I do:D) shape. However, the Government of Canada and the Government of Ontario did put mega billions into the bail out of GM and Chrysler, as did the UAW, in terms of wage freezes etc., in order to safeguard Canadian jobs in Windsor and Oshawa. Spending to save jobs is good government.

cmonstanley 24-06-2011 22:48

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BBC News - Habitat stores enter administration as part of sale look at the chart and another firm owned by a private equity firm :rolleyes:

Mancie 24-06-2011 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914056)
who mentioned labour i never, lazy posting ha ha i cant believe anybody is agreeing with what david cameron is doing as another high street name goes into administration as it says the uk arm of the company is proof of the pudding that camerons policies are killing britain.obama pupmed more money into the american economy and their economy is growing cameron takes it out and we are heading for a double dip ..17,000 housing repossesions from jan to may ..

I'll say it again you are wasting your time and energy on here ;)
No matter what this disaster of a government get up to there will be the usual mob ready to defend them or simply blame the last lot .. I mean come on we have a German Dave.(and we all know what sort of "socialism" they believe in);).. the bloke from Ossie who benefited more from the last government than Greece will ever do...and then the "neutral" head nurse who more or less tells you to shut up because she knows best... give up mate :D

cmonstanley 24-06-2011 23:04

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no no no never:D:D:D

cmonstanley 24-06-2011 23:39

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theres another 250 jobs to go ,in the coastgaurd putting lives in danger.whatever you do stay away from the coast because if your in danger youll have to wait an hour or more longer:eek: The FactCheck Blog - Minister is all at sea over coastguard cuts

jaysay 25-06-2011 08:56

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BBC News - Labour lost touch with public and members - Ed Miliband
Thought I'd just do a cmonstanley

Alan Varrechia 25-06-2011 10:10

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Thought you said you wouldn't post any more in this thread Jay. :eek::D:D:D:D

jaysay 25-06-2011 10:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 914150)
Thought you said you wouldn't post any more in this thread Jay. :eek::D:D:D:D

no more comments on silly one line links from the mad jock Alan, but I couldn't resist that one really could I, Mr Ed admitting they got it wrong:D

jaysay 25-06-2011 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914152)
no more comments on silly one line links from the mad jock Alan, but I couldn't resist that one really could I, Mr Ed admitting they got it wrong:D

Probably the only meaningful link on the whole of the tread:D

cashman 25-06-2011 10:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914153)
Probably the only meaningful link on the whole of the tread:D

thats probably true.........even though the thread is "The Tories" cos out regarding them "IS" meaningless, its good we agree on summat.:D

DaveinGermany 25-06-2011 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 914114)
I'll say it again you are wasting your time and energy on here ;)
No matter what this disaster of a government get up to there will be the usual mob ready to defend them or simply blame the last lot .. I mean come on we have a German Dave.

From said German Dave :D Mancie, once more you enter the foray at a disadvantage my friend. If your compatriot North of the Border came on ready to debate (& not mass debate as usual ;) Damn spell check) then I & others would willingly partake in a balanced & reasonable discussion, but blind vitriol & point scoring against all things Tory isn't worth the effort !

I have stated elsewhere in other threads that I don't agree, with some of the measures the present Coalition Government are doing, despite that to all intents & purposes it's being run by "The Damned Tories" ! But Your cherished Labour wouldn't have been any better as they too would've had to share the platform with the Lib-dems for them to seriously have had any chance of continued tenure in office. But as MC Broon was in charge there was no chance.

Surely then If they'd have been the good Socialists you espouse them to be, quite simply for the good of the people & benefit & equality for all (the basic ground tenet of Socialism) McBroon & those associated with his despotic reign would've stepped aside for the benefit of all ? Er, I didn't see that happening ! In fact quite the opposite transpired it was more akin to the Roman senate of 44 BC ! Et tu, Brute ? ;)

DaveinGermany 25-06-2011 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 913991)
Totally agree Margaret, my last post too,

Post 211 :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914134)

Post 221 :)

A U-turn ??? :eek: Happy now C'mon & Mancie, a true Tory & no doubts an emulation of number 10 perhaps ? What's that phrase again ? ...... Ah yes, after a period of consultation ! ;)

Sorry Jay, couldn't resist Mate ! But before the Trotsky twins start to gloat have a read of this, from the Grauniad of all Dailies ! :eek: :-

U-turns are David Cameron's strength ? and may win him an election | Matt Grist | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

garinda 25-06-2011 12:41

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I just assumed the Peoples' Nancie, and cumonEileen, are Tory activists.

Planted here to bore every potential voter into submission, and vow never to vote Labour again.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 25-06-2011 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 914170)
Post 211 :rolleyes:

Post 221 :)

Ooh a U-Turn ??? :eek: Happy now C'mon & Mancie, a true Tory & no doubts an emulation of number 10 perhaps ? What's that phrase againn ? ...... Ah yes, after a period of consultation ! ;)

Sorry Jay, couldn't resist Mate ! But before the Trotsky twins start to gloat have a read of this :-

U-turns are David Cameron's strength ? and may win him an election | Matt Grist | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

I know its a good post Dave, but its not that good you had to post it twice:D:D:D

DaveinGermany 25-06-2011 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914205)
I know its a good post Dave, but its not that good you had to post it twice:D:D:D

I know & I reported myself :eek: to get one removed, seems our usually eagle eyed wiper outer team are having an extended tea break ! :D But I'm sure they'll be along presently. :)

garinda 25-06-2011 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 914173)
I just assumed the Peoples' Nancie, and cumonEileen, are Tory activists.

Planted here to bore every potential voter into submission, and vow never to vote Labour again.

:rolleyes:

Whoops.

Blinkin' edit button!

That should read Mancie and cmonstanley.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 26-06-2011 09:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 914254)
Whoops.

Blinkin' edit button!

That should read Mancie and cmonstanley.

:rolleyes:

The first description is quite acceptable G:D

cmonstanley 26-06-2011 14:13

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you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum

cashman 26-06-2011 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914414)
you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum

nowt to do wi the torys, pension funds etc have been creaming off/taking pension holidays etc fer donkeys years, i agree its a crap state of affairs, but all these pension funds had trustees, some were even from the shopfloor, i could see the way things were going 20 yrs ago, so i took mine in 98, when i was 50, i know folk now in the same fund that have contacted the ombudsman cos the fund has been creamed off since, its a disgrace whats gone on, but pointless blaming the present lot, "All" have turned a blind eye to whats gone on fer many years.:rolleyes: its exactly the same scenario wi goverment pension schemes.

Benipete 26-06-2011 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914419)
nowt to do wi the torys, pension funds etc have been creaming off/taking pension holidays etc fer donkeys years, i agree its a crap state of affairs, but all these pension funds had trustees, some were even from the shopfloor, i could see the way things were going 20 yrs ago, so i took mine in 98, when i was 50, i know folk now in the same fund that have contacted the ombudsman cos the fund has been creamed off since, its a disgrace whats gone on, but pointless blaming the present lot, "All" have turned a blind eye to whats gone on fer many years.:rolleyes: its exactly the same scenario wi goverment pension schemes.

Tha Reet there Cashy,Where there's money there's muck.Don't matter what colour tie they're wearing.;):hehetable

They're having It.:mad:

DaveinGermany 26-06-2011 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914414)
yes make the working class work till they drop

You see yourself as such do you ? I read an interesting article in todays Independent on this very topic. I've included it below so if you have the inclination & aptitude you can take a browse through, you my find it a bit heavy going as it doesn't exalt your party of choice but then again it's people like yourself (labour supporters & unionists) who are making these damming statements about the supposed champions of the working class. So who exactly should you be railing against ? Looking at the facts some of your beliefs sure aren't going to be pretty.

Threatened, isolated, under siege: the UK's working class today - Home News, UK - The Independent

garinda 26-06-2011 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914414)
you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum

Yes, I'm quite sure this is subversive Tory propoganda at work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 914173)
I just assumed the Peoples' Nancie, and cumonEileen, are Tory activists.

Planted here to bore every potential voter into submission, and vow never to vote Labour again.

Where do I hand in my Chairman Mao's Little Red Book, and sign up?

:rolleyes:

garinda 26-06-2011 16:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914414)
you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum

Who were you referring to, since you posted 'you', but didn't quote anyone?

Jaysay, since you posted directly after him?

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.

cmonstanley 26-06-2011 16:47

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no matter how you twist i havent mentioned labour,and if people are still trying to blame the last goverment how come 50% of tory policy has been u turned and ttheyve sent more than a billion pound abroad;)

DaveinGermany 26-06-2011 16:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914435)
no matter how you twist i havent mentioned labour,and if people are still trying to blame the last goverment how come 50% of tory policy has been u turned and ttheyve sent more than a billion pound abroad;)

Do see below


Above taken from post 227

And again ! You're bleating on about not mentioning Labour can you please try & be a little more, precise, concise, definitive as to the point you're trying to make ! Then maybe we can give you a straight answer/reply. :confused:

garinda 26-06-2011 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914435)
no matter how you twist i havent mentioned labour,and if people are still trying to blame the last goverment how come 50% of tory policy has been u turned and ttheyve sent more than a billion pound abroad;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 914433)

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.


http://th8.photobucket.com/albums/a1...miley-yawn.gif

DaveinGermany 26-06-2011 18:05

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Tell you what, let's start from scratch shall we ? You insist you haven't mentioned Labour fine, but all your arguments have been against the coalition, but to suit your purposes you've used the expression Tories/Cameron etc, etc thereby confirming your revulsion of all things Tory. The fact that it's a coalition running the country means their partners should also come in for derision & on occasion you've done so thereby also confirming your contempt for the Libdems & Clegg.

So by simple elementary deduction you are howling with indignation from a Labour standpoint ! Am I wrong ? Therefore to counter your limp arguments examples of Labour ineptitude & incompetence are held up as vindication to balance the argument (are you still managing to comprehend ?)

Where some possible confusion (on your part not mine) could have arisen is in your statement
"it gets more idiotic by the day replacing british pilots with foriegn ones i just dont get it talking about cheap labour this takes the biscuit Sacked RAF pilots replaced by foreign personnel - Telegraph :mad::mad::mad:":mad:
Here you use the word Labour but in the context of work & not politics my reply to which was
"What cheap labour ? The courses are being filled by other nations & they're paying, it'd be the same as you crossing the border to take driving lessons (read the article)."Also using the work context in this instance so you see I haven't used labour in the political sense so any twisting is of your own doing. ;) Now we're bang up to date can we now maybe carry on with a sensible discussion ?

cmonstanley 26-06-2011 19:35

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ok start from scratch the last labour goverment werent perfect.

Royboy39 26-06-2011 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914453)
ok start from scratch the last labour goverment werent perfect.

Sounds like now you are after a place in Noddy's shadow set up? :eek:

Mancie 26-06-2011 21:41

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Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
And so after over 240 posts (admited many of which are one line links) can we get back to slagging off this government?..or maybe someone should start a thread on how bad the last lot were! :D

Royboy39 26-06-2011 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 914507)
Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
And so after over 240 posts (admited many of which are one line links) can we get back to slagging off this government?..or maybe someone should start a thread on how bad the last lot were! :D

I don't think there is enough memory on the site to start that one :rolleyes:;)

Mancie 26-06-2011 22:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 914518)
I don't think there is enough memory on the site to start that one :rolleyes:;)

Well it's all down to cuts Roy.. cuts and more cuts.. that's the tory way:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 26-06-2011 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 914507)
Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
And so after over 240 posts (admited many of which are one line links) can we get back to slagging off this government?..or maybe someone should start a thread on how bad the last lot were! :D

Mancie, you did tempt fate somewhat by mentioning "the last lot" in your opening post! From then on, the floodgates were open... :D

Mancie 26-06-2011 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914521)
Mancie, you did tempt fate somewhat by mentioning "the last lot" in your opening post! From then on, the floodgates were open... :D

The floodgates were open from the first post.. I knew that :D

garinda 26-06-2011 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 914433)
Who were you referring to, since you posted 'you', but didn't quote anyone?

Jaysay, since you posted directly after him?

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.

No comment?

Confirming this attack was aimed ay Jaysay?

The silence speaks volumes, sadly.

You carry on posting your comfortingly lazy links.

www.sameoldboringtripe.com

;)

Neil 27-06-2011 08:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 914220)
I know & I reported myself :eek: to get one removed, seems our usually eagle eyed wiper outer team are having an extended tea break ! :D But I'm sure they'll be along presently. :)

I was in Blackpool with my family doing obscene things to Wossy :rolleyes::D

DaveinGermany 27-06-2011 08:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914453)
the last labour goverment werent perfect.

At last ! Some common sense & an acceptance of facts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 914507)
the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...

can we get back to slagging off this government?..

Mancie, I'm rather surprised "Present Government" ??? Not Tories ? Are you at last accepting the fact that we have a Coalition in power ?

Marvellous, but if you hadn't been so intentionally inflammatory with your title "The Tories" & initial statement (just a quick reminder) "Anyting they do is a cock up..." perhaps the following 200+ posts wouldn't have been so acrimonious & degenerated into a slanging match about who's worse.

I agree that some of the decisions made by those in power have been atrocious & in all honesty can't see the benefit to the British people, but these measures have been brought about by the present Coalition Government due to the failings & weaknesses of past (I don't just mean labour also the Tories before them) poorly led & mediocre parties. Had we had some Politicians of strength, determined resolve & backbone the UK would definitely not be the miserable little Island it is now sitting in the shadow of Europe & America.

The once renowned Bulldog spirit of the British people, which at one time saw us controlling half the world & its resources, defend against major tyranny twice in the 20th Century with the associated loss to our Countries future due to the sacrifice of our military men, has gradually aided the decline of the Great British way of life & in the later more (peaceful ?) part of the 20th Century our gains & pride have been further eroded by self serving career politicians of all stripes. Therein lies the true failings of the UK, its feeble subservient political classes & until they are eradicated the UK will slip further into the mire !

Mancie 29-06-2011 21:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 914531)
No comment?

Confirming this attack was aimed ay Jaysay?

The silence speaks volumes, sadly.

You carry on posting your comfortingly lazy links.

www.sameoldboringtripe.com

;)

Can't find your original rant but I'll answer

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.


Every man or women in this country should have proper care when needed and I'd say people in that position should be given more help both financial and medical .. .if that means higher taxes or if the country needs to borrow to help our own when they need it so be it I have no problem.

I do have a problem when people who took full advantage of the benifits that were in real terms increased after 1997 are now keen on the idea that this government should cut the income of the less well off (wether it be the low paid, those on benifits or tax credits) ..of a sudden it seems we have been spending to much on are ill people and the old or infirm.
If that makes me a left wing militant unsocialist self pitying thatcherite'' fair enough

garinda 29-06-2011 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 915546)
Can't find your original rant but I'll answer

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.


Every man or women in this country should have proper care when needed and I'd say people in that position should be given more help both financial and medical .. .if that means higher taxes or if the country needs to borrow to help our own when they need it so be it I have no problem.

I do have a problem when people who took full advantage of the benifits that were in real terms increased after 1997 are now keen on the idea that this government should cut the income of the less well off (wether it be the low paid, those on benifits or tax credits) ..of a sudden it seems we have been spending to much on are ill people and the old or infirm.
If that makes me a left wing militant unsocialist self pitying thatcherite'' fair enough

Are you two an official couple now?

A sort of marriage between Wee Jimmy Krankie, and the dopiest one out of Chas 'n' Dave?

I asked cmonEileen who he was referring to, when he spewed out this charming rant, directly after a post made by Jaysay. (#232)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 914414)
you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum

Sadly there's still been no confirmation from him, but thanks for your unasked for, and bewildering input, on behalf of your better half.

Mancie 29-06-2011 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 915583)
Are you two an official couple now?

A sort of marriage between Wee Jimmy Krankie, and the dopiest one out of Chas 'n' Dave?

I asked cmonEileen who he was referring to, when he spewed out this charming rant, directly after a post made by Jaysay. (#232)



Sadly there's still been no confirmation from him, but thanks for your unasked for, and bewildering input, on behalf of your better half.

Ok you've lost me now..who are you on about?.. him her.. what is this some sort of Mrs & Mrs question?.. I've replied to your rant so for gods sake talk normal or go back to bed you nutjob:D

garinda 29-06-2011 23:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 915594)
Ok you've lost me now..who are you on about?.. him her.. what is this some sort of Mrs & Mrs question?.. I've replied to your rant so for gods sake talk normal or go back to bed you nutjob:D

No one asked for a reply from you.

But thanks awfully for chipping in, with your indecipherable musings.

If you're not seeing double by now, you could possibly see, and read that the question was asked of your other half, cmonatissue.

jaysay 30-06-2011 09:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 915596)
No one asked for a reply from you.

But thanks awfully for chipping in, with your indecipherable musings.

If you're not seeing double by now, you could possibly see, and read that the question was asked of your other half, cmonatissue.

He actually had the cheek to call You!!!!! a nutjob G:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

cmonstanley 30-06-2011 18:35

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another 15,000 jobs to go at loyds 15 very large high street names on a knife edge what is plan b ??? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13971159 plus if you read the bit at the bottom they are well just not them every bank is going to charge you for financial advice which is not at the top of the news agenda

jaysay 30-06-2011 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 915744)
another 15,000 jobs to go at lloyd's 15 very large high street names on a knife edge what is plan b ??? BBC News - Lloyds Banking Group to shed 15,000 more jobs plus if you read the bit at the bottom they are well just not them every bank is going to charge you for financial advice which is not at the top of the news agenda

Ya if only the last government had have learnt the lesson from 79, but they never do, Same old Tories cleaning up same old labours crap, if only they knew how to earn money as fast as they can throw it down the toilet they might just get the hang of this politics lark, but don't hold your breath

garinda 30-06-2011 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 915744)
another 15,000 jobs to go at loyds 15 very large high street names on a knife edge what is plan b ??? BBC News - Lloyds Banking Group to shed 15,000 more jobs plus if you read the bit at the bottom they are well just not them every bank is going to charge you for financial advice which is not at the top of the news agenda


Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 915583)
Are you two an official couple now?

A sort of marriage between Wee Jimmy Krankie, and the dopiest one out of Chas 'n' Dave?

I asked cmonEileen who he was referring to, when he spewed out this charming rant, directly after a post made by Jaysay. (#232)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions:eek: tory scum


Sadly there's still been no confirmation from him, but thanks for your unasked for, and bewildering input, on behalf of your better half.

Still no confirmation, about who you think is 'so cocky'?

CumonEileen!

Cat got your tongue?

Enough, of yet more, lazy, boring links.

Answer the question.

Who were you referring to?

Gordon Booth 30-06-2011 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 915744)
another 15,000 jobs to go at loyds 15 very large high street names on a knife edge

I bet those poor devils wish they had a chance to work 'till they were 68 and get a good pension. There'd be no complaints there.

garinda 30-06-2011 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 915767)
I bet those poor devils wish they had a chance to work 'till they were 68 and get a good pension. There'd be no complaints there.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Mancie 24-07-2011 00:53

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Another "good day" to bury bad news.
Not the main news of the day when we have some right wing nutcase murders in Norway.. but this item is about British people trying to fight for thier jobs.. yet another example of this governments inept and downright clueless approach to the future of manufacturing in this country... I'll say they should be thrown out!


David Cameron in a meeting with Derbyshire MPs earlier in the week, reiterated the government's position that it was legally bound by the terms of the tendering process
What a disgrace.. Cameron told the electorate he would do away with all this rubbish,,and he has done nowt!
BBC News - Bombardier march in Derby demands contract rethink

Mancie 24-07-2011 01:14

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We also had the promise that petrol prices would be capped.. what happend?.. nowt..we were told household energy prices would be "under strick control"..what happenend ..nowt
We were told the Police force would not suffer losses..what happend...17,000 less Police..
We were told no care homes for the elderly would be affected by cuts.. what happenend..all of a sudden the old and infirm are under threat
Not a good CV for this government.. or is it just me?

cmonstanley 24-07-2011 08:46

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DONT FORGET 17,000 soldiers for the dole:mad:

Wynonie Harris 24-07-2011 09:00

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Presenting for your entertainment and delight...the fabulous Karl Marx Brothers!

jaysay 24-07-2011 09:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 920920)
DONT FORGET 17,000 soldiers for the dole:mad:

It might be an idea if you actually read some of these links you put in

Margaret Pilkington 24-07-2011 09:13

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don't you think it best if we let these two talk to one another?
They are in accord over everything it seems, so there will be no disagreements....and basically I can't be bothered with this thread any more......it just goes round and around over the same old ground...same old, same old. Boring!

jaysay 24-07-2011 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 920922)
Presenting for your entertainment and delight...the fabulous Karl Marx Brothers!

Are they identical twins:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 24-07-2011 09:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 920942)
Are they identical twins:rolleyes:

Nope, but they look quite similar in their berets, combat jackets and red tinted specs with a copy of "Das Kapital" under one arm and this week's "Socialist Worker" under the other. ;)

jaysay 24-07-2011 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 920943)
Nope, but they look quite similar in their berets, combat jackets and red tinted specs with a copy of "Das Kapital" under one arm and this week's "Socialist Worker" under the other. ;)

I presume the berets are red too, the socialist work, ya I've always found that an anomaly Wyn, socialist workers party were nobody works, unless you class standing on street corners with placards as work:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 24-07-2011 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 920946)
I presume the berets are red too, the socialist work, ya I've always found that an anomaly Wyn, socialist workers party were nobody works, unless you class standing on street corners with placards as work:rolleyes:

Work is for running dog imperialist capitalist lackeys. The true work is the conversion of the proletariat to the cause of the glorious revolution.

Power to the people!

jaysay 24-07-2011 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 920948)
Work is for running dog imperialist capitalist lackeys. The true work is the conversion of the proletariat to the cause of the glorious revolution.

Power to the people!

Oh I see:D

There was once a chap who regularly wrote letters to the Observer, signing himself the Socialist Workers Party, he then change it to the Socialist Party of Great Britain, when somebody pointed out that he hadn't worked for 25 years:rolleyes::D

Wynonie Harris 24-07-2011 11:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 920950)
Oh I see:D

There was once a chap who regularly wrote letters to the Observer, signing himself the Socialist Workers Party, he then change it to the Socialist Party of Great Britain, when somebody pointed out that he hadn't worked for 25 years:rolleyes::D

I have fond memories of his letters back in the 70's and 80's - an excellent Saturday morning comic interlude! :D

DaveinGermany 24-07-2011 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 920895)
Another "good day" to bury bad news.

I'll say they should be thrown out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 920896)
what happend?.. nowt...what happenend ..nowt
..what happend...17,000 less Police..
Not a good CV for this government.. or is it just me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 920920)
DONT FORGET 17,000 soldiers for the dole:mad:

Is it me or is there a theme running through these posts ? It's like an Austin Powers remake :D Proper couple of "Gold Members" this pair. :rolleyes:

Mewling Mancie & Mini mewling Mancie ! Starring in "Whining on forever" ;) Wonder if Dame Shirley would be up for a reworking of the original title song ?

Royboy39 24-07-2011 16:04

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I can't see either of them qualifying to wear the Red Beret.........Red noses maybe?

jaysay 24-07-2011 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 920952)
I have fond memories of his letters back in the 70's and 80's - an excellent Saturday morning comic interlude! :D

He still writes Wyn, but with no organisation name, he just has a poke at Graham every time he has his column in the obs or he's had a letter published, don't think Graham is left enough for him

Wynonie Harris 24-07-2011 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 920992)
don't think Graham is left enough for him

It's called being ideologically impure. ;)

cmonstanley 25-07-2011 11:11

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where does it end BBC News - British army 'faces thousands more job losses'

jaysay 25-07-2011 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 921086)

It wouldn't have bloody started with sensible government between 97 and 2010 you clown

cmonstanley 25-07-2011 20:32

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i was better off under labour now the worjking class is taking the hit for the tory scum;) Britain's social elastic is almost at snapping point | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

Wynonie Harris 25-07-2011 20:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 921182)
i was better off under labour now the worjking class is taking the hit for the tory scum;) Britain's social elastic is almost at snapping point | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

C'mon, are you completely daft? Do you think anybody on Accyweb, regardless of their political sympathies, is going to bother reading the words of a classic, chattering class, bleeding heart Hampstead Heath liberal like Polly Toynbee with her laughable working class solidarity? "We're all in this together"...it sounds as false coming from her pen as it does from George Osbourne's mouth. :rolleyes:

cmonstanley 25-07-2011 20:50

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and keep blaming the last goverment its too late to do that the tories have been in power long enough to make a difference yes they have made a difference high inflation more unemployed privatising the nhs this just the beginning handing their donors billions of pounds in contracts thats not saving money in fact their policies are increasing the countries debt

Mancie 25-07-2011 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 920943)
Nope, but they look quite similar in their berets, combat jackets and red tinted specs with a copy of "Das Kapital" under one arm and this week's "Socialist Worker" under the other. ;)

:D Not really my style Wynonie and never even read "socialist worker" I reckon you guessed that ...but some of the slow witted on here do seem to go for it ;).
Interesting how anyone who views this government as destructive in any way are quickly jumped on and marked down as some sort of socialist commie types... seems to me that combat jackets and berets would be more the the in thing with the far right at this time.:eek:

Mancie 25-07-2011 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 920964)

Mewling Mancie & Mini mewling Mancie ! Starring in "Whining on forever" ;) Wonder if Dame Shirley would be up for a reworking of the original title song ?

Yes I whinge and whine... I moan and groan about the way the economic and social foundation of this country is being demolished by an inept ruling government..of course you don't agree ...now who was it that sang "The Love Tory"?..ah Andy Williams! ;)

cmonstanley 25-07-2011 21:13

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Renewed concern about Atos medical assessments | Society | The Guardian Atos acquires Siemens IT Solutions and Services - NDTV Profit theres a connection here, wonder why the same companies have won all the goverment contracts so much for competition just more evidence they are lining their donors pockets with billions of pounds of contracts

Wynonie Harris 25-07-2011 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 921190)
Interesting how anyone who views this government as destructive in any way are quickly jumped on and marked down as some sort of socialist commie types... seems to me that combat jackets and berets would be more the the in thing with the far right at this time.:eek:

Mancie, lad, you've never met Jaysay and Boeing Guy - number two crops, harringtons, braces, half-mast levis and cherry red DMs. You don't want to mess with these lads!

In all seriousness, Mancie, although I like to characterize you and C'mon as classic "Citizen Smith" types, a constantly recurring theme of mine (to the point of tedium, some might say) is that I'd like to see MORE leftwing/Labour types arguing their point of view on here. Why don't Graham, Bernard, Claytonender, Clare Pritchard, Ken and others of a similar persuasion come on here and present a reasoned critique of the present government and, more importantly, suggest an alternative? I'd probably agree with some of their views. What winds people up (and to be fair,this is more C'mon's approach than yours) is a post consisting of a few garbled words followed by a link to some newspaper article. So come on, Labour party supporters, fight your corner! :)

Boeing Guy 25-07-2011 21:27

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Wyn, it would be lovely to have a good old fashioned debate on here, with some of those mentioned.
But to reply to cmon, in a way he will understand:
Quote:

. In the autumn of 2008, Atos Origin was one subject of a government enquiry after it attracted comment from British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who said that the company would have "to explain itself" after a memory stick with passwords and user names for an important government computer system was found in the car park of a public house.[ The DWP, who had awarded Atos Origin the Government Gateway contract, later confirmed that the memory stick had only held the data of just a handful of people and all of their password information was encrypted.
A little bit of cut and paste, now you must excuse me as I need to go and whip ones servants.:D

Mancie 25-07-2011 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 921199)
Mancie, lad, you've never met Jaysay and Boeing Guy - number two crops, harringtons, braces, half-mast levis and cherry red DMs. You don't want to mess with these lads!

In all seriousness, Mancie, although I like to characterize you and C'mon as classic "Citizen Smith" types, a constantly recurring theme of mine (to the point of tedium, some might say) is that I'd like to see MORE leftwing/Labour types arguing their point of view on here. Why don't Graham, Bernard, Claytonender, Clare Pritchard, Ken and others of a similar persuasion come on here and present a reasoned critique of the present government and, more importantly, suggest an alternative? I'd probably agree with some of their views. What winds people up (and to be fair,this is more C'mon's approach than yours) is a post consisting of a few garbled words followed by a link to some newspaper article. So come on, Labour party supporters, fight your corner! :)

:D..funny thing is that mine would have been 2 inch braces, Ben Sherman, buffed up brogues and a crombie;) so we were'nt far off in them days!

Mancie 25-07-2011 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 921201)
Wyn, it would be lovely to have a good old fashioned debate on here, with some of those mentioned.

Yes but not likley to happen..I can see how tedious and useless most of the political posts on here must be.. but this is a "forum".. if some of the more politically active members posted on national affairs then there maybe a decent debate.. fact is they did in the run up to the last General Election then signed off when it was over. :eek:

cmonstanley 26-07-2011 07:48

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the proof is in the pudding what is plan b:rolleyes:BBC News - GDP figures expected to show the UK economy has slowed

jaysay 26-07-2011 08:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 921182)
i was better off under labour now the worjking class is taking the hit for the tory scum;) Britain's social elastic is almost at snapping point | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

Oh come on, Poll Dance Polly, do me a favoure:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 26-07-2011 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 921273)
the proof is in the pudding what is plan b:rolleyes:BBC News - GDP figures expected to show the UK economy has slowed

Thats probably in keeping with your one brain cell RIP

Margaret Pilkington 26-07-2011 11:30

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John....I think he might have two brain cells...it is just that one of them is in 'inhibitary mode'(not functioning).

jaysay 26-07-2011 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 921321)
John....I think he might have two brain cells...it is just that one of them is in 'inhibitary mode'(not functioning).

There ain't a lot of hope for the other one either Margaret:D

DaveinGermany 26-07-2011 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 921191)
I moan and groan about the way the economic and social foundation of this country is being demolished by an inept ruling government..of course you don't agree ...

I wouldn't say so, there are things that have been done by the present Government that I personally don't agree with & in that respect I would say that my views would be aligned with yours. Also the last Government did things I didn't agree with, but there isn't a lot that can be done to change the situation.

What I'd like to see is a ruling government, be it coalition or single party that puts the peoples opinions & concerns at the forefront of everything they do & working towards delivering exactly what people want as opposed to politicians lining their own nests & catering for the interests of their associates.

Margaret Pilkington 26-07-2011 19:32

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Me too son....But I reckon I might just die waiting for it to happen.

There is no political party that cares much for the hope, opinions or thoughts of the electorate........They are all cut from the same old musty bit of cloth....there is very little difference between what they do(which is, once in office, any old thing they want.... regardless of their promises) They spend time and energy back biting, name calling and point scoring......this energy could be better used to think up some relevant realistic plans to drag the UK out of the EU, close the gates to scroungers from other countries, and sort out the problems that beset the country.

(not a cut and paste to be seen)

andrewb 27-07-2011 07:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 921436)
Me too son....But I reckon I might just die waiting for it to happen.

There is no political party that cares much for the hope, opinions or thoughts of the electorate........They are all cut from the same old musty bit of cloth....there is very little difference between what they do(which is, once in office, any old thing they want.... regardless of their promises) They spend time and energy back biting, name calling and point scoring......this energy could be better used to think up some relevant realistic plans to drag the UK out of the EU, close the gates to scroungers from other countries, and sort out the problems that beset the country.

(not a cut and paste to be seen)

Problem is “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

andrewb 27-07-2011 07:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 921273)
the proof is in the pudding what is plan b:rolleyes:BBC News - GDP figures expected to show the UK economy has slowed

This isn't proof of anything.

Economic growth from such a deep recession was always going to be choppy. There's nothing at all to suggest that an alternative plan to reducing the deficit would work better, it may even have delivered us worse growth figures, perhaps even negative growth.

Not dealing with the deficit hasn't exactly gone well for Greece and Portugal.

Margaret Pilkington 27-07-2011 08:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 921571)
Problem is “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

No, Andrew, I don't think it is that at all.

I am just sick of politicians saying one thing and doing another......not listening to the electorate on the things that the electorate consider to be important......I am fed up of them treating us all like we cannot use our critical thought processes......of them living high on the hog, while we struggle to make ends meet.......Spending money we cannot afford on things like the recent 'Happiness Index'.......what on earth was that all about?
And it cost us - the tax payer, 2 million pounds(or at least that is what is reported).
What kind of idiot spends money on something that an 11 year old could probably tell you?


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