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Where is your information from...and why no link??

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No these are new ones. Unfortunately, Canadians are not co-operating with the Feds ... they are commiting fewer and fewer crimes. The tory answer of course, is to keep the criminals we have in jail for longer. Most Canadians who think about it, see the tory tough-on-crime policy as a joke. Another problem is that if one is sentenced to less than two years, the sentence is served in a provincial jail. Provinces are peed off that the feds seem to be sticking them with the bill for their idiot policies. For example, if new provincial jails have to be built in Ontario, it is the Ontario tax payer who has to foot the bill. Also, it is worth noting that the Provinces don't share the same attitudes to crime and punishment. Quebec, in particular.

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Shame you can't put in one of your famous links, but congratulations are in order, at last you've managed to start a sentence with a capitol letter, shows your leaning

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Yeh nice one cmon, but you aint learning, "capitol":hehetable

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You'll get into trouble you, its MargaretR's job to point these things out;)

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Nope according to Jay he's leaning.

Ah well from mighty oaks and all that.:rolleyes::D:D

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Only a Pisa artist would notice that one:D

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Private sector prisons are an eye-watering scandal, union tells justice ministry | Society | The Observer There you go;)

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and again Private prisons 'performing worse than state-run jails' - Home News - UK - The Independent

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"The privatisation of public services has been branded a scandal by unions who say"

Being the first line in the article, needless to say I didn't bother reading any further. :(

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My feelings entirely, which is probably a line more than the original poster read Dave;)

I do enjoy skittin' you Jay, but even I can't be bothered reading his links anymore, whenever he or his mate post anything my heart sinks, do they really believe what they have posted?

Nah, they can't do, even a Tory wouldn't believe that tripe!

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BBC News - High Street retailers: Who has been hit hardest ? and this is what we know god knows how many more:( starving an extremely weak economy is a recipe for disaster which i warned 2 years ago.

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Isn't it a shame you aren't in government...you could have saved them so much trouble?

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Well Septic Peg, you should have used your skills, to tell us just what New Labour really think about the ordinary person in the street, before we were shown for ourselves, that fateful day in Rochdale.

Gordon Brown and "Bigoted Woman" IN FULL - Rochdale 28 April 2010 - YouTube

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He did warn us to run away from Hyndburn, like he did, because the streets were overrun with dog stabbers.

Did we heed his warning?

No.

Now who's laughing?

As the number of fatalities have reached a thousand.

Oh wait, sorry.

That should read a thousand people laughing themselves hoarse.

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jaggers got no sympathy for the tory devil;) BBC News - Sir Mick Jagger drops out of UK event at Davos wonder if the sun will report that.

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but i bet when 2 shops in accy town centre close down and the workers join the dole queue they wont be laughing;)

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No, they won't.

You probably will.

Laughing like a loon, saying you said this would happen, fifteen years ago.

People decide for themselves, if someone else is wise.

They aren't usually swayed by the person proclaiming their own wisdom.

Not usually a wise move.

;)

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Though you would have gained brownie points, if you'd have tipped off Joe Public, just how out of touch the Labour party are with ordinary people.

You missed a trick there.

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no i actually said it earlier in the thread .the economy is so fragile with europe and the world recession it needed all the help it could get.actually i admit the tories are not fully to blame but they are not helping.

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I'm afraid they're helping more than Labour.

After thirteen years, whatever their good or bad points, everyone now knows, when it comes to economics Labour are hopeless.

The final nail in their coffin, leaving the note in the Treasury, that all the money had gone.

After their scorched earth spending policy, carried out once they knew they hadn't a cat in Hell's chance of being re-elected.

Haughty arrogance, to accompany their incompetence.

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gotta disagree the tories copied labour last year by pumping more money into the economy but the damage was already done by starving the economy of cash.now we now see the domino effect when everbody who has a credit card are at their maximum:(

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And who's fault is that? it sure aint any political party, Living beyond yer means is a fault of stupidity.

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The economy was starved of cash, long before the coalition came to power.

Try asking anyone seeking a mortgage or loan, after the recession started in 2007.

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1997-2010.

Spend, spend, spend.

When everyone was encouraged to hock themselves to the eyeballs.

Without a thought about the future, and how all these loans would need to be repaid.

New Labour.

R.I.P.

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Everyone shouldn't have credit cards.

That's part of the problem.

Three consecutive Labour governments, spending like there was no tomorrow, and making it easy for everyone else to do the same.

Actions have consequences.

Unless, like you, you're happy sticking your head deeper into the sand.

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they never made it easier it was the banks,shops etc.

Government plans to abolish the social fund and transfer the responsibilty for crisis loans and grants to local councils (re Shredding the ultimate safety net, editorial, 23 January) are not the only example of regressive and damaging changes to what has been a national benefit system.

Council tax benefit is also being localised and cut by 10% for all claimants except pensioners, with councils having to decide who will receive, and in what proportions, what remains. In the year of the Dickens bicentenary we are witnessing the revival of 19th-century poor law with a patchwork quilt of key benefits varying according to where people live.

Jeremy Beecham, House of Lords

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Oh really?..what criteria do you think people in your apparent socialist society should have credit cards?.. those who work hard to pay back the credit or those who live off credit (I'm sure you have met some in your epacades with the rich and famous) :D

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Oh right.

In your utopian La-la land, simply everyone should be given access to unlimited credit, which brings untold misery for many, when the heavies are sent in, to get the money, plus massive interest back?

Great.

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Pro-masturbation is the theif of time, and you're a real pro.

Garinda Martin, House of Fun.

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Sir Jagger not going?? A big loss to the country(and to the Davos Conference). Perhaps they should cancel it.

But what was your point(if there was one).

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Tea and bicuits in Switzerland is a Google Page Ranking excercise for Davy boy, not UK talent.

I can understand why Mick Jagger opted out.
Who is paying for travel to go there, and the Earl Grey and custard creams?:rolleyes:

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I've never heard it put quite like that Rindi, but hum it sure sums him up to a tee:D

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See you have no proof the last goverment forced everybody to have a credit card. your answer is flawed as usual.you remind me of alex salmond :D:D all flaws and no answers

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Another goverment defeat in the lords.trying to charge lone parents to use the csa .142 majority defeat;)

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wot? No link?

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BBC News - Welfare bill suffers Lords defeat over child support there you go;):D

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I didn't mean it.
Hope you didn't go to too much trouble on my account.

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Er...I take it you're referring to myself, but just haven't grasped how the quote facility works?

Nowhere did I say that 'the last government forced everybody to have credit cards'.

What I actually said...

Read it again.

Try putting a pointer under each word, as you come to it.

I'll say again.

I do think having what's basically unlimited credit, causes a great deal of people a whole load of misery.

Actions do have consequences. Whether it's building hospitals under P.F.I.s, or people maxing their credit cards out, with no chance of being able to pay them off.

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i actually agree with most of your points.i remember when i first ventured out as a home owner to the shops niave as i was,i always thought to myself does nobody pay cash anymore and that was before 1997.ive always paid cash and lived within my means and had to do without but i never starved.the society today was created by the media .

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Now, C'mon...you have found a few full stops.......and look that rare bird the comma.
Now try and put som capital letters in there.
This is like training my daughters eight year old......if you have used a full stop, the next word has to begin with a capital letter.

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No, this society was most definitely not created by the media.
The media may have influenced what it did, it may influence what it is doing, and it may further influence what it is going to do....but it did not create it.

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Roll on Scottish independence.

Can't come to soon.

Electrify Hadrian's Wall.

Soon all this will be foreign to you.

You'll have to spend all this time, working yourself into a dreadful tiz, worrying about how to put your own bothy in order.

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will never happen:p heres to another 300 years of union;)

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well, you never know they might just ask us what we think.

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Yeh that'll keep yeh safe from the Dog Stabbers,:D

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Todays figures on the economy show a further slump.. Cameron and head boy Osbourne blame everything on the euro down to the price of beans!..government borrowing and debt has risen by billions.
when this government took office we were told that cuts and sacking half a million people would push the economy forward and unemployment would fall....now they are either downright liars or this government are inept.

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Also blaming the mess the last government made (Which they Did) but not a mention of these policies to remedy it, that aint working.:rolleyes:

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I'd go with the Liars personally, seems to be stock in trade for Politicos. I wouldn't harp on to much about ineptitude though as I'm sure you're aware of the response that'll be raised on that score. ;)

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Government debt rises because of the interest that is required to be paid on money borrowed.

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Ya you lot know which side your breads buttered on, free education, free care for the elderly, free prescriptions, all paid for by English tax payers, is it any wonder more English want independence for Scotland than Scots:rolleyes:

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Ya at the moment its running at £43 billion a year, and were paying interest on that too.

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and the tories the party of law and order with the lowest amount of police officers in a decade;) which will soon be the highest rise in crime in a decade;)

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the tories the party for unemployment PoliticsUK - News: MoD 'to cut another 3,000 jobs'

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this made me laugh

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more like this

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Scotland isn't quite the land of english tax payer funded milk and honey:-

- Scotland has the lowest life expectancy at birth within Britain. Male life expectancy is 2.4 years lower than the UK average and female life expectancy is 1.9 years lower.

- Scotland's drink problem is significantly worse than the rest of the UK. (source: Scottish Government website)

- Cancer survival rates for people in Scotland are among the worst in Europe(Source: BBC website)

Not a record to be proud of. No doubt some of the more well off students could afford fees and this money could be put into health.

The east end of Glasgow is more like eastern europe 30 years ago.

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...and the west end of Glasgow, where I lived for four years, is a fabulous place.

No one forces the Buckfast down anyone's neck, or forces people to eat fried Mars bars, or get injected with smack.

Choices.

Though long, dark winters, and a ginger temperament, makes it hard for many Scots to make the correct, informed choice.

Och aye the noo.

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A lot of Glasgow's health problems is self inflicted, nobody makes people lead an unhealthy lifestyle, they do it by choice, I worked in Glasgow many moons ago and saw first hand just what happens not a pretty sight, but that wasn't the whole of City, just certain areas, the tenement blocks were something to behold, not

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[quote=garinda;965457]...and the west end of Glasgow, where I lived for four years, is a fabulous place.

quote]

Was most surprised to read this -although all large cities do have their depressed areas.

I have only ever travelled through Glasgow Station (very pleasant) on my way to get the ferry to Belfast, so i don't know the place at all. However, with it having been a European City of Culture, being reknowned for it's art galleries and music festivals and of course it's architecture and in particular the connection to Charles Rennie MacIntosh, I thought it's image had changed.

Is there not a proposal to switch away from GMT to daylight saving time or something similar which would benefit Scotland?

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And Osbourne did not know that?.. if he did know he was lying when he said it would be a good policy to sack thousands .. if he didn't know then he is an inept chancer and thought it would just all work out.. so which is it..liar or inept ?

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Yes of course he knew that................lying? Lying and politics go hand in hand don't they.(don't tell me that you have only just realised that all political parties are - shall we say- economical with the truth. It is the only bloody thing they ARE economical with)
Ask Tony Blair and his cronies. The ones who took the British Squaddies out to an illegal war. But then I don't suppose that counts as lying does it?
Perhaps if that had not happened there would have been more in the pot that IOU's when Labour left power.

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Money left in the pot and Labour Government Margaret, is a scenario which never exists, ask Liam Byrne, there's no money left we've spent it all, even the billions upon billions they borrowed, was the note left in his treasury desk on May 6th 2010

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Ah, but John, Mancie does not subscribe to the logic that much of what is being paid back is the debt that the previous administration left behind.
I would love to have seen the faces on the Labour cabinet if they had got back into power. How would they have explained away the financial mess? Better still, how would they have dealt with it......well of course they would have spent their way out of it with more borrowed money no doubt.

I actually don't care about who is in office/power....the colour of their blanket means nothing to me.
It is high time we distanced ourselves from the EU(hope you are reading this Graham)....we could save a few billion by not paying into the bailout pot which has no bottom to it.
We could save a few more billion by turning away some of the economic migrants who come to make their lives better, not ours.

We could tell the Bankers that these huge bonuses will not be paid...they will be redirected into paying off what the British taxpayer put in to keep them afloat(had they beeen car manufacturers or any other kind of manufacturer then they would have been left to sink - it was a Labour government that saved them....new Labour....a nice shade of lilac).
We could root out the grand corporations that evade tax....name them and shame them....if companies want to trade here then they pay their taxes here.

We tell all the London landlords charging exorbitant rents that their milk cow is being slaughtered. If they think that they can rent out these properties to those in the private sector - then let them try, and see how far they get.

If any money is going to be spent then it should not be on a high speed rail link, it should be on building affordable social housing. Wouldn't this stimulate the economy......builders would have work to do, kitchens and bathrooms would be purchased, paint and wall paper too....furniture would be bought, carpets etc.

But hey what do I know about anything?

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Noticed one thing that was muted last week was the introduction of a levy on foreign lorries using our roads, we have to pay levies on the continent, so why shouldn't foreign companies pay to use our roads

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Foreign Worker Levy maybe this would work here:eek::D

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Tit.

More than three million migrants under Labour - Telegraph

Tat.

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europe ;) now we know who is really in charge,wonder what hedge funds and which companies the hedge funds have invested in .could this be a conflict of interest by the back door The Conservative Party | News | News | Michael Farmer appointed as new Co-Treasurer The Conservative Party | News | News | Michael Farmer appointed as new Co-Treasurer i know ive left more links but youve got to read it to believe it. tax dodging

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tit

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...JjLINWSmfbfZQA

for tat

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Government outsourced more than 1,100 jobs to private sector in 2011 | Society | The Guardian not really saving money are they;)

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never liked blair or his missus;)

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That's ok.

Tit for tat.

They, and New Labour don't really like you, or any of those who get their hands mucky, through hard graft.

;)

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i dont think new labour have decided who they disliek yet so dislike everyone until further notice

one thing for sure is they love the EU.Maybe they should go there and see how long they last ?

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still think dave milliband will be labour leader next year

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I think Hell's more chance of freezing over, than that happening.

Guess we'll see who's right next year.

Though I won't be putting any money on it being you.

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Really, news to me and most of us on here.

Just to back this up with facts....before May 2010 the only things you said against Tony Blair, on this forum, was two posts.

one on 12.01.2007, regarding UN peacekeeping duties worldwide, no mention of how much you dislike him there.
(thread You cant walk down Blackburn road in Accy, page 2, post 28)
and
on 28.03.2007 quoting member KiTChener, you do not mention Blair as its part of the quote.
(thread Boston's Future in Fresh Doubt?, page 2, post 16)

In fact the only time you have said anything remotely against the last Government was this thread you started yourself.
21.10.09 this thread, peter mandelson you are,
in which you said you had enough of New Labour while Peter Mandleson was around.


Still why let the truth get in the way

I was tempted to carry on the tit for tat, but decided against it.

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Quite right BG he's just a tit that talks tat;)

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I would not hold my breath, seeing he earns £400,000.00 per annum extra to his parliamentary income and would have to give that up.
Fat cats indeed.

But then if you really read Private Eye, you would have known that a few weeks ago.

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Ya mean he's kept that from us BG, I would have at least expected a link;)

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whats this all about then :D right all you old fogies its back to work you go:D Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | Retirement :: Elderly 'should go to work and downsize their homes'-

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Sell your terraced house in Hyndburn.

Buy a castle in Scotland.

Live off what's left.

Sorted.

Job's a good'un.

;)

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:D:D surely they are on the wind up.must have been some very bad news somewhere and this was to deflect it:confused:

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Daily Express, nuff said

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but thats a so called tory rag:eek:

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Are you the last Tory in Scotland, now Moira Anderson lives on the Isle of Man?

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not my style unless it ends with y,r or n :D:D

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You think so? You really should read Private Eye, older editions pre 2010, then you might, just might realise where Dirty Des's loyalties lie.

Unfortunately, your past performance shows us that you ignore anything that does not it with your skewed view on the world and just carry on posting tripe

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I don't know, they were all quotes from your history

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tory,thatcher and cameron;):D

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im actually reading one from 1997 and it says desperate hacks st the cash starved express are furious that god fearing richard addis awarded a massive £6000 a year pay rise to his secretary. always thought he was a tory eurosceptic

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Laddy, you need to find a better shop, to buy your fish supper from.

Anything older than a 2002 Daily Record, spells salmonella.

:s_fart:

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anybody know if the figures paid out private firms show up in public spending:confused: Fury as families tsar gets £8.6m in ONE YEAR (and the bulk of it comes from taxpayer) | Mail Online

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Dirty des, did not buy the Express until 2000.

I see you are still ignoring things that don't fit with your dog stabbing view.
You really are quite annoying

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The sentence you quote BG does not contain one capital letter, and this is from a guy who thinks he knows how to run the country:rolleyes:

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this will be swept under the carpet .the male in the picture looks highly familiar;) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-just-day.html yes lets sack all the civil servants and waste taxpayers miney on this:rolleyes:

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Ho I'm so glad your still with use after your football club went the same way as the political part of your choice, glad you didn't do something silly :rolleyes:

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Thought this was quite good.

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not only a rip off merchant but a company of fraudsters as ive said before;) BBC News - Emma Harrison quits as chairman of A4e welfare-to-work firm

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Wrong link