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Oh I just want to say I have only read one of the 60 pages-- none of my post is a personal attack on those that may of posted before me....


You know Ken makes a good point with the carcinogens. Its the smoking of it that makes it dangerous. Not to mention most people mix it with tobacco!! you are also smoking paper most of the time too.

I have read about a vaporizer for cannabis use. I think if you are going to smoke it at least try this method and be healthy. In certain parts of the world they are reccomending this method for those that have it for medical reasons(canada is it?)

I have never smoked tobacco apart from when I did smoke cannabis. I never will smoke tobacco!

Ken, Surely if the government sold cannabis they would make millions and millions of £££ from it? Like they already do with tobacco and alcohol?

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This is a subject that doesn't just go away - the problems remain and this thread is about discussing these issues! :alright:

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Some good points made here Restless. Food for thought. :)

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I thought I would try and share my experience and opinion about drugs because too many people make their opinions known about them and they have never tried them. They make personal judgements about people who they don't know in the slightest

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So right - there are many here who tell you that you are wrong for even taking drugs in the first place. These are the people who don't know what they are talking about! Fact is information and honest education is the only way to deal with drugs use/abuse! Telling kids they will get punished for taking drugs is not the way - because a majority will still try drugs to be rebelious! And thus you will always get people who die needlessly because of this approach!

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You are a liar!!! You have twisted information to make you twisted point!

You wind people up and you have made several comments about me being a glue sniffer! OK well why are you saying this?
Oasis- The Truth by sacked drummer Tony McCarroll - Celebrity Interview - Celebs + TV - People.co.uk

You are adamantly against drugs! Yet Noel and Liam Gallagher both sniffed glue - Noel was nick-named "Bostik" according to this!

Noel and Liam apparently also took Magic Mushrooms before they even got a band together So your belief that drugs destroy all people is totally wrong and you are a troll and a wind up merchant!

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I don't think anyone would take legal or illegal drugs just because they are rebels or upset about anything..the vast majority of what we call abusers of drugs are not young teens.. they are adult men and women who have made a decision as to wether they use illegal" drugs or not.. when it comes to teens I say it's more about the attraction and curiosity of the illegal drugs.. and that will go on forever.

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What particular venemous toad appears in your Avatar? Just curious...:rolleyes:

How old are you actually?

Teenage hero worship of the Gallagher brothers impies your mental faculties may have beeen damaged some time ago. Perhaps in your teens, no sorry, more likely when you were a sad thirty something.

Some people never grow up;):D

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Got it in one mobertol:alright:

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Utter rot! The point I am making is that these guys did abuse drugs, sniffed glue and magic mushrooms too - I am not hero worshiping just blasting apart Garinda's faulty claims that every one who takes drugs ends up a junkie down and out etc!

My mental faculties are as good as yours dear!

Garinda is a mate of yours and I find this person to be a nasty piece of work - he knows what he's doing - you support him and his attitude you are both the same. You are people who manipulate and make personal attaccks to make your point!

I think you are nasty pieces of work - I really do. People with hangups and who use clever cynicism to people off and make personal attacks and think your being Uber cool to impress their little friend list at Accy Web! You make me feel sick you really do!!!

Unfortunately I can't have my account closed and all my posts cleared but Garinda and those who back him make me sick and never want to return here! He is a slug ... slime bag nasty little oik! FFF!

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Whoa, settle down fella before you burst something ! It's an open forum & as such you're going to come across people who'll disagree/agree with you over various topics. On the drug thing you're onto a hiding as most folk are averse to them & their use.

Resorting to personal insults brings nothing except maybe an entrenching of position & a reciprocation of derogatory remarks, climb down a bit & don't get so anti, accept we'll never all agree. Let the issue die quietly & move on, everyone parts on companionable terms & the sniping & bitching will hopefully cease.

It's meant to be fun on here, but sometimes I do wonder.

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I'm sure you could if you tried - have your account closed. Other people have done this successfully.
It seems to me that you find someone who has a different opinion to you, something of a challenge.
Some people will agree with you....some won't...get over it....and while you are about it you might want to look through your posts to see if you have been insulting to other members......after all, you can't take the grit out of someone else's eye while you have a boulder in your own.

If you truly, truly do not like being here, then the answer is in your hands.......don't visit the site.

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Wrong...yet again!

Nowhere have I said that.

Please feel free to quote me, it back up your outlandish claim.

Good luck with your search.

It'll be fruitless.

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Unlike yourself.

Who not on breaks forum rules, but the law of the land, when you publicly make threats of actual bodily harm to others, to make your point.

It's really very sad.

I pity you.

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Yet again, you threaten to leave the forum.

You do try to make yourself the centre of attention, don't you?

Just because your account can't be closed, there's nothing stopping you from never coming back to Accy Web again.

Instead of making idle threats, try and muster a little self-discipilne.

Then if you say something, you might have the back-bone to actually do it.

It would stop you looking so weak, and spineless.

I doubt there'd be a petition, from members missing your contribution on the forum.

http://yoursmiles.org/csmile/goodbye/c0215.gif

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As well as talking rubbish,yer a liar! if yeh really wanted to depart closing yer account would not come into it.:rolleyes: Like loads of other people yeh would just stop visiting the forum, Personally if yeh do or don't,i couldn't care less, Theres more crap in you than a sewerage depot.:rolleyes:

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do we really need two topics on this ?

whoever gave me bad karma for post #1204 you could of least wrote a reason instead of writing "......."

just saying :p

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The poll was added, as just that. A poll.

To see how many people wanted recreational drugs decriminalised.

It wasn't meant to be another discussion, on the same topic.

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One of them was a poll to clarify how many people wanted to legalise illegal drugs.

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ah of course. Can a poll not be added afterwards to a topic?

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I'm not sure...you'd have to ask a mod....but to be honest, this theme of drugs has found its way into many other threads, which are in no way connected to this one.

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Yeah I noticed that, Perhaps it should be limited to threads like these

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there is always going to be a certain amount of cross-over....but sometimes the drug theme gets a bit boring and tedious. Most of us who have any opinion have already stated quite clearly what it is.
I won't be changing my opinion(which is based on life experiences) anytime soon.

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If its not too personal perhaps you could elaborate on the experiences that shaped your opinions? I am genuinely interested

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Margaret, it's good to hear that whatever opinion you have on drugs is based on experience. I wonder if the same can be said for many of those who sound off about the subject.

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If you read the thread I think most people have given their personal opinion, backed up by their varied experiences with recreational drugs, and drug users, which has shaped their given point of view.

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The thread topic is a question: "Legalise illegal drugs?" What exactly is your experience of the subject?

If people want to use illegal drugs, the only time I have an objection is when they try to justify it to the rest of us.
Use the drugs, if you wish, but don't compare them to real life, that is what the rest of us use.

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awwwwwwwwwwwww 60pages!!

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Personal experience, very limited. Vicarious experience, through reading and research, more extensive. I have not given an opinion on this thread and indeed only look at it from time to time as I find the constant sniping and personal attacks tedious in the extreme.

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Actually Rob it's now 80 plus, most of which are taken up with backbiting.

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Oh dear! Here was me thinking that amphibians were simpler forms of life and had less well-developed physiological systems. Must have got that wrong, it appears I may have touched a nerve:rolleyes::D

Depends on how you have your pages set.
If you take the standard, usually 25 posts to a page, if like me you hate seeing plenty of pages of crap, set them for the max.
It dosn't seem anywhere near as bad then.

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oh :) i was thinking of this thread. I got mixed up between the poll thread and the non poll thread

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ah of course I think it set this ages ago

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Better still, don't read the pages of crap!

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Are a person's opinions any less valid, if they aren't backed up with some direct involvement in a subject?

Do you need to have had sex with a child, before being allowed to give an opinion, or as you say, 'sound off', about paedophilia?

As stated, rather than just dipping in and out, if you take the time to read what's been posted, the vast majority have people have backed up what they think of the legality of recreational drugs, with their varied reasons as to why they hold their opinion.

My own opinion on the subject is based on experiences that are very far from 'limited'.

Not that that really matters one iota.

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No of course they are still valid provided they give a reason as you say most people have done.

If you read my post I was wondering how many folks, like yourself Gary, have direct experience. You read into it that I thought their opinion was less valid.

I did not say that.

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I am one of the people who are providing the honest education you speak about.

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Thank you Less, I didn't know you could do that. It's 15 on my screen.

I think there are only 9 pages for me on the poll thread

Exactly. I haven't on this thread, as I said in an earlier post.

You're welcome, I personally dodge between maximum & minimum, if you go for 1 post per page you can pretend your own threads look more popular than they actually are.

;)

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Folk like myself?

I presume you mean people who are happy with the status quo as it is, regarding recreational drugs being illegal?

Presumably those that have posted they'd like the law changed have had some personal experience with taking illegal drugs. As I doubt many would bother arguing that recreational drugs should be made legal if they hadn't, and indeed many have already given that information as fact.

So your questioning whether the other opinions given in this thread are based on actual 'experience', rather seems like you're trying to invalidate anyone's opinion who hasn't had a direct invovement with illegal drugs, even though they are happy for recreational drugs to remain illegal.

Again, as stated already, if you read what's actually been posted, the majority of people have given reasons, as to why they think what they do on this issue.

Also using the term 'sound off', when referring to those peoples' views being aired, could be seen as both patronising, and dismissive.

Nothing to do with the thread, but please use my username, when referring to myself. Thank you.

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You've used the 'dear' word again you patronising xxxxxxx person, I could be calling sexual harassment/discrimination at this point but I'll let you off on the grounds of lack of intelligence on your part sweetie!
What the hell is your problem - some people use drugs either legal or illegal some people wreck their lives as a result, some don't. Get a life and stop trying to wind other people up. Your arguments are becoming increasingly illogical, who really gives a toss about the Gallaghers
( different thread but are you trying to overtake the Accyweb with the same subject!)
If you were trying to persuade others with your pro drug legalisation argument I could understand where you are coming from, but it appears from your posts that you may have personal issues which you may need to resolve.
Please note that I am available for counselling should you feel a need at any point at no charge.
And I'm sure that Garinda doesn't need me to defend him but I'm sure he has more life experience and wisdom than you will ever have !!!!!
Please either leave the Accyweb or shut up about the drugs issue which has been done to death but people have to respond to your increasingly illogical comments. It is you keeping the threads open.
You may tell me that I have a sad life because of the amount of time I spend on this site - I am currently off work after surgery and can't wait to return to work!!!

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So we can take it that this thread is now dead seeing Birdy has fled the nest again, he fell into the old trap, he forgot that when your in a hole stop digging, or you will end up in Australia;)

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I was thinking perhaps kestrelX used to lick the backs of toads to get high :hesoff: :hehetable

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Very sorry, my fault for posting in a hurry. What I meant to say was

If you read my post I was wondering how many folks, like yourself, have direct experience. You read into it that I thought the opinion of those who don't was less valid.

Of course I don't think you have to have experience to have an opinion.

But I do think some people sound off on here. I may be one of them.

Patronising and dismissive? Takes one to know one!

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So now you resort to the petty 'backbiting', that you say prevents you from reading what's actually what's been posted in this thread?

A thread that if you had read, would mean you'd have already known the answer to your question.

That seems very odd.

To say the least.

Having a skin thicker than a rhinoceros, and not being the supersensitive type, I, and any other idiot, can see by your wording that you were questioning the validity of anyone's opinion, who didn't have direct experience of illegal drugs, and by labelling their opinion as 'sounding off', it was patronising.

Deny it if you wish.

It's there for everyone to clearly see.

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My point garinda was this.

I think it is ignorant to tar every drug user to be of the down and out type and to be the scum of the earth.

And that is what a lot of people do. Perhaps if they had taken drugs themselves they would know the difference but then they
may have a bad experience and so its not totally a valid point. But I thought I would share my views anyway. I wish i hadnt now

Some people have this opinion because they are directly influenced by propaganda.

One of my friends... his dad said 'Drugs make you gay' an honest quote

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You have some strange mates if their parents think like that Restless:rolleyes:

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:D well my mate is strange I will agree with that

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Just for you, so you don't think you're being attacked, and as I'm feeling nice, and generous, I'll repeat what I've already posted in this thread...for the umpteenth time.

Nowhere, not once, ever, have I posted that every illegal drug taker is a 'down-and-out type', or 'scum'.

Nor have I ever said that every 'soft' drug user will go on to take harder drugs.

However, some will, and to me decriminalising recreational drugs would increase those odds, and I don't think as a society that's a chance we should be taking.

I've posted about friends in their sixties, who've had a couple of joints every night for the last forty odd years, as well as friends who've gone clubbing on drugs for decades, neither of whom have gone on to take harder drugs, and who have happy, and rewarding lives.

I've also posted about teenagers I've worked with, who sell themselves to disgusting pigs for a tenner, so they can buy their next wrap of smack. Their pitiful existence led there via soft drugs.

Not all recreational 'soft' drug users will move on to harder drugs.

Some will.

Fact.

It's a risk, if these drugs were decriminalised, that I think would increase, and isn't a gamble I'd like to see taken.

This is the last time I repeat what I've already said regarding my views on this issue.

As they've already been posted in this thread...many times.

Posted along with my scathing opposition, because I see what they've posted as dangerous, to those who've used this thread to extol the joys of taking drugs such as L.S.D., and heroin, amongst other illegal, 'recreational' narcotics.

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Sorry don't understand, what are you saying here?

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I hadn't read all the posts so I shouldn't of assumed that the person that quoted you saying these things were right that you actually had said them. But I wasn't directing that at you... generally its just what a lot of people actually think because they have been taught to think likewise

I do agree with you. But my opinion is that cannabis should be legalised and all the other drugs should not be. Even if it was legalized I still wouldn't smoke it again.

Good post. thanks

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A friend of mine who smokes cannabis. His father is anti drugs. His father said to him one day ''look at all the musicians that are on drugs that are gay'' He said that '' drugs turned people into homosexuals''.

Where this strange opinion originates from is beyond me. All I can guess is television

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No need to thank me.

Just setting the record straight, for those who haven't read the thread, but who have just seen the total misinformation, posted by those with a hidden agenda.

Knowledge is power.

Always try to attain that knowledge from more than once source.

Especially if that source is not very reliable.

I thought your post, made yesterday morning, was refreshingly honest, even if I didn't agree with much of it myself.

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One reason to legalise drugs! :D


Withnail And I - Lighter Fluid - YouTube

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One reason not to legalise drugs.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m.../kestrelx.html

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Um nice one Rindi;)

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Ribbet, ribbet!http://www.cool-smileys.com/images/frog1.gif

I wonder if he turns into a handsome prince with a kiss?;)

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I believe that the legalization ... or, at least the decriminalization ... of all drugs that are now illegal will have an "upside" which will far outweigh the "downside". Many of those in power in countries such as Mexico and Columbia have put forward this position. Also, if memory serves me right, in Switzerland several years ago. "The War on Drugs" ... an idea that comes, not surprizingly, out of the USA, has failed. The yanks are big on having "wars" on things: The War on Terror is a good example. All these wars are unwinnable. But whatever, big decisions on this issue will be made at the White House today, whatever anyone else thinks. And I have no doubt that this war will continue its futile course ... like Afghanistan, like Iraq, and like the one in Viet Nam decades ago.

Harper, Obama, Calderon meet before Summit of Americas - Politics - CBC News

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Now your being silly:rolleyes:

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Dead right there, bud. Kisses don't work. However, we all know that enough booze will do the trick:D

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Well now your talking, but it always had the reverse effect with me Eric, went to bed with a page three girl woke up with Hilda Hogden:D

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You seem obsessed with me! :rolleyes: Troll! :)

Funny how you don't put up your own picture!

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I agree with you Eric! You know why Politicians have "wars on things" it's because it suits the way they work, in that they are about stirring up fear in people and then they "pretend" to come up with the solution. For example "WE WILL GET TOUGH ON DRUGS!" "WE WILL GET TOUGH ON CRIME!" It's to get votes. In London the mayorial elections are building up and they are now all talking about "We will have more POLICE in SCHOOLS!" and so on!

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Quite evident you've never been in the gallery

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I'm not really interested in eyeballin' Garinda! Thanks very much! :rolleyes:

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No, just that people that boast of the joys of taking L.S.D., and heroin, on a local, family forum, make me sick.

As for being a troll, it's quite obvious to everyone who's infested umpteen threads on Accy Web, with their obsessive need to proclaim how wonderful recreational narcotics are.

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As anybody noticed who keeps dragging this thread up again, um wonder who that can be, any ideas Rindi? looks like he ain't going to let this thread die the death it deserves

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You are wrong! Where did I "Boast the joys of heroin?" I would think "families" would have the brains and discernment to chose the threads they view! Also why after so long do you suddenly get on the moral high horse about family forums? When you have been perpetuating the growth of this thread - smells like hypocrisy to me!

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Sorry Mate - it was Restless who made some additions to this thread. Maybe you should apply for a position as a moderator? If you've nothing left to say about it, simple; stop reading it and stop posting! :rolleyes:

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This comment seems to upset someone who gave me two lots of shiny red Karma saying I know how it works now.

Your correct I do know how it works, but I think you don't as your red Karma has had no impact I can only presume you either A) Have not posted over 100 posts or B) have red Karma yourself. (I think B)

Karma works like this, the more you have the more you give and Vice Versa Ie more Green also gives more Red. Having None or red has No Impact (Please correct me if im wrong).

I just hope the giver reads this and hasn't been bullied away. There has been a lot of conflict in a lot of posts/threads.:(

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To be honest I rarely use Red Mr D, I have to be really Peed of before I do

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I was thinking about this today. Garinda has a good point.

Perhaps these threads could be combined or one of these threads deleted and have this moved into 18Plus

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Why the over 18s:confused:

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Garindas post about it being a family based forum. If kids are happening to be reading accyweb.... etc

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Hang on a minute ... some of us aren't allowed in there ... me, for example:o

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Well maybe the thread starter, should have done that in the first place, but its been running for a while and I know the mods do read most things and no doubt it would have been moved before now, or deleted altogether:rolleyes:

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No no no! Garinda's is misquoting what I said for starters - I did not "glamorise taking heroin!" Leave these posts alone!

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Well we have to protect the young and innocent Eric:D mind you its would be rather expensive to pop over from Canada just to shake hands with a mod and say Hi I'm Eric from Canada and I'm over er um 65:D can I come in the adult room please:D

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He doesn't have to come over to prove it, Jay - one look at his profile pic and he's either had a misspent youth or he's very good at disguise! :p;)

Sorry Eric only joking, you're a handsome dude really and I always did go for men with beards! :cool:

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I staked my claim before you ;)
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post948760

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Aperantly it doesn't work like that susie Eric was knocking about when I was a teenager and I'm an OAP now:D

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OOOoohhh sorry Margaret! :):o I'll just have to be content with the old fart I've already got - at least he also has a beard!!! Haven't seen his chin since 1977 - there are probably a few more under there now as well!

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I can't get in there either........I'm only 14! :D

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I should have said only 14, but with 50 years experience :D

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oh and you told me you was 21 :hehetable

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I lied :)

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Shame on ya you've just fallen of that pedestal Margaret:D

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It's alright John....I didn't hurt myself :)

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Did ya fall on himself:D

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No John....being such an angel(:D).....I floated delicately down to terra firma.

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Axeminster with thick underlay then:D

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something like that:).....tell me, can you snort axminster...or does it have to be smoked??(just trying to get back on thread before we get slapped).

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dont know about that. But perhaps you lick the belly of the toad in the pic that kestrelX has as an avatar and get high

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Ha ha Marg - lends a whole new meaning to ROTFLMAO!!

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Glad it brought a bit of levity.......this thread needed lightening(or maybe lightning would be better):)

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Do we have Colorado River Toads in Hyndburn? The secretion is toxic so licking it is the recommended.

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haha never looked into what types of toad. But it goes to show that some people will do anything to get high.

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Just for you, hon.

Willie Nelson "Angel Flying Too Close To The Ground" US FESTIVAL 1983 - YouTube