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Less 04-03-2012 14:54

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975015)

you don't even know why you think what you think! You are conditioned OK!

I know exactly why I think what I think.
I would rather illegal drugs were kept illegal than for the powers that be to legalise them on the recommendation of half wits such as you.
This is not a personal insult by the way, it is a conclusion I have come to having read what you and others of you ilk have put forward as reasons to legalise these substances, not a good read, you do your cause no good at all.

Less 04-03-2012 15:00

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975036)
why else did you mention my brother on at least one other occasion if not to cause a reaction.

I must have missed something do tell me what your brother has been up to.
I wouldn't like to miss out on a juicy piece of gossip.

:)

mobertol 04-03-2012 15:08

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 975042)
I must have missed something do tell me what your brother has been up to.
I wouldn't like to miss out on a juicy piece of gossip.

:)

He does keep bringing it up himself too -a sort of reinforcement.

But then he doesn't want people to keep mentioning it.

Doesn't seem to know what he wants...:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 04-03-2012 16:00

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975034)
Everybody is conditioned by their parents

So you're blaming your parents now, are you?

garinda 04-03-2012 17:28

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975036)
Bla bla bla! I said I was going to leave because you kept bringing up my brother and his activities some years ago!!

As no one knows you from Adam, we only knew that you had a brother, and that he'd been convicted in a high profile blackmail case, because you'd publicly posted about it on here.

Seeing as you've boasted of your use of illegal drugs, and since there's a high incidence of criminality associated with drug usage, asking whether your brother partook of drugs, the same way you have, seems a relevant question.

Talking of questions.

You say heroin shouldn't be legalised 'at the moment'.

When should it be made legal, and freely available to all, and what makes it different from crack cocaine, say?

Can you list what currently illegal drugs you'd like to see legally available for all and sundry, to take 'recreationally'?

jaysay 04-03-2012 17:30

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975034)
Everybody is conditioned by their parents , school the media and so on! What you, I and others think about many things may not "reality" but just opinions that may not be actually fact! This is the situation with some drugs that are currently illegal!

David Nutt's Blog: Evidence not Exaggeration

Professor Nutt asks for Evidence not Exaggeration! No doubt there will be more posts with childish comments in reaction to this post!

By the way I posted the Jack Black clip about LSD because it is funny.

Ya keep bringing up this Nutt case bloke, which is enough for me, he sure as hell has the right name

garinda 04-03-2012 17:39

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975036)
You have said several times cannabis leads to heroin addiction which is not correct!

No.

I haven't.

You are wrong, once again.

This is where you keep proving that taking drugs recreationally addles your brain.

I said so called soft drugs 'can' lead on to harder drugs.

Not every cannabis user goes on to become a heroin addict.

However, every heroin addict started their pitiful journey by first taking 'softer' drugs.

garinda 04-03-2012 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 975042)
I must have missed something do tell me what your brother has been up to.
I wouldn't like to miss out on a juicy piece of gossip.

:)

Punk's not dead.

Although apparently some drug taking punks are.

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 524175)
Us Schoolgirl BItch supporting China Street. Good gig that was. The face in the picture (circled) is Mark Buroughs anyone remember Mark - he died of a drugs overdose in early 1980's!


jaysay 04-03-2012 18:15

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975086)
Punk's not dead.

Although apparently some drug taking punks are.

Ya I can remember in the early nineties they brought a lad into the ward where I was, a lad about 18 or 19, he was a drug addict, he was so stoned he fell asleep on a park bench, in the teeming rain and ended up with Pneumonia, he gave me this info. He was in around 7 days and was then discharged, a couple of weeks later there was an article in the Obs about this lad who had been found dead in a flat on Nuttall St Accy, through a drugs overdose, it was the same young lad, a waste of a life

garinda 04-03-2012 18:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975090)
Ya I can remember in the early nineties they brought a lad into the ward where I was, a lad about 18 or 19, he was a drug addict, he was so stoned he fell asleep on a park bench, in the teeming rain and ended up with Pneumonia, he gave me this info. He was in around 7 days and was then discharged, a couple of weeks later there was an article in the Obs about this lad who had been found dead in a flat on Nuttall St Accy, through a drugs overdose, it was the same young lad, a waste of a life

Many young lives have sadly been taken by drugs.

accyman 05-03-2012 02:38

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i once went on a date with a woman dressed as wonder woman

we went back to her place and she kicked me in the nuts then tied me up in her cellar with her rope

it was then i learned that heroine was bad for you :D

jaysay 05-03-2012 08:35

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975115)
Many young lives have sadly been taken by drugs.

Those young lives start on the slippery slop as an experiment or under peer pressure, glad to say that I was never tempted to experiment and was always able to avoid doing something just because other people said it was cool and I wasn't in with the in crowd

kestrelx 05-03-2012 15:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975211)
Those young lives start on the slippery slop as an experiment or under peer pressure, glad to say that I was never tempted to experiment and was always able to avoid doing something just because other people said it was cool and I wasn't in with the in crowd

One of the GP's I see at my surgery, who is about 60 and a writer, told me he used to smoke cannabis and take magic mushrooms and he is in a respectable job - contradicting several opinions spouted here that drugs are lethal and lead to serious damaging addiction, for everybody who takes them!

kestrelx 05-03-2012 15:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975086)
Punk's not dead.

Although apparently some drug taking punks are.

I'm glad your taking notes! :)


Come Fly With Me - Drugs - YouTube

Here is an article I pulled out that says Ecstacy "could" help Parkinson's sufferers?

BBC NEWS | Health | Ecstasy 'could aid Parkinson's patients'

BBC News | HEALTH | Ecstasy 'relieves Parkinson's Disease'

Michael1954 05-03-2012 15:52

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974777)
This argument can not be won so I put this argument to an end!

Have you changed your mind about putting this argument to an end?

kestrelx 05-03-2012 15:53

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Most of the ground breaking popular music wouldn't have happened but for the influence of drugs.

kestrelx 05-03-2012 16:00

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 975320)
Have you changed your mind about putting this argument to an end?

People keep posting comments about me so I will reply - when they stop I stop!

cashman 05-03-2012 16:04

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 975320)
Have you changed your mind about putting this argument to an end?

Its probably the effects of a misspent youth.:D

Michael1954 05-03-2012 16:05

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975323)
People keep posting comments about me so I will reply - when they stop I stop!

Is that what this is really all about: you?

kestrelx 05-03-2012 16:07

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 975326)
Is that what this is really all about: you?

No - it's about the Beatles, The Who, Hendrix all who's groundbreaking music was largely influenced by recreational drugs. The question is "without using drugs would these acts have created such groundbreaking music?" And would Rock/Pop music have been what it was.

Michael1954 05-03-2012 16:10

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975327)
No - it's about the Beatles, The Who, Hendrix all who's groundbreaking music was largely influenced by recreational drugs. The question is "without using drugs would these acts have created such groundbreaking music?" And would Rock/Pop music have been what it was.

I was asking if this thread was now all about you.

cashman 05-03-2012 16:10

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Many of em made a load of crap after, The stuff before was better.

kestrelx 05-03-2012 16:15

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 975330)
Many of em made a load of crap after, The stuff before was better.

The Beatles were on uppers (Amphetamines) in Hamburg. Are you saying Sgt. Pepper's is crap? I don't think the Beatles made a "bad" record in the 60's did they? Hendrix as the Jimi Hendrix Experience was all about LSD - not to mention Cream who were into the LSD and Ginger Baker was a heroin addict and Clapton was latter on.

kestrelx 05-03-2012 16:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 975329)
I was asking if this thread was now all about you.

No it's not all about me.

Gordon Booth 05-03-2012 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975318)
One of the GP's I see at my surgery, who is about 60 and a writer, told me he used to smoke cannabis and take magic mushrooms and he is in a respectable job - contradicting several opinions spouted here that drugs are lethal and lead to serious damaging addiction, for everybody who takes them!

He'll be pleased you told us that. Can we have his name so we can have a chat with him about his experiences?
Although if he's a GP and a writer it shouldn't be difficult to find him.

accyman 05-03-2012 16:44

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a bit off topic but is that toad in your avatar one of those magic ones that excreets natural LSD and is sucked on to get high kestrel ?

garinda 05-03-2012 16:49

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975318)
contradicting several opinions spouted here that drugs are lethal and lead to serious damaging addiction, for everybody who takes them!

See? A brain turned to mush.

No one's said that.

Those who are addicted to heroin etc, start off taking 'softer' drugs.

Fact.

Please feel free to prove you aren't spouting more guff, by quoting any person in this thread, who has said 'drugs are lethal and lead to serious damaging addiction, for everybody who takes them'.

garinda 05-03-2012 16:55

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Since you're up.

Can you try and muster enough energy to try and answer these questions?

If it's not too much effort.

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975079)

You say heroin shouldn't be legalised 'at the moment'.

Even though you've posted that you've taken it recreationally.

When should it be made legal, and freely available to all, and what makes it different from crack cocaine, say?

Can you list what currently illegal drugs you'd like to see legally available for all and sundry, to take 'recreationally'?


garinda 05-03-2012 17:07

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Oh dear.

Gone.

Must have popped a downer.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 17:31

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975337)
Those who are addicted to heroin etc, start off taking 'softer' drugs.

Fact.

So cannabis can lead to cocane and that can lead to heroin?

Is that what you are saying to put it in layman terms

jaysay 05-03-2012 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975321)
Most of the ground breaking popular music wouldn't have happened but for the influence of drugs.

You really are a total prat

jaysay 05-03-2012 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 975326)
Is that what this is really all about: you?

Of course it is Michael, its the only time he's ever had any recognition, even if its for being brain addled by drugs;)

jaysay 05-03-2012 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975331)
The Beatles were on uppers (Amphetamines) in Hamburg. Are you saying Sgt. Pepper's is crap? I don't think the Beatles made a "bad" record in the 60's did they? Hendrix as the Jimi Hendrix Experience was all about LSD - not to mention Cream who were into the LSD and Ginger Baker was a heroin addict and Clapton was latter on.

All those you mention had genuine tallent before any drugs came into their lives, in a lot of cases drug was their downfall, well it sure was for Hendrix, it eventual killed him, or the effects of drugs did

walkinman221 05-03-2012 17:46

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So now ALL the best ground breaking music owes its creation to recreational drugs, it amazes me how any of us function without taking drugs to make us more creative,enlightened, spiritually aware, socially responsible and all round good eggs you nearly have me converted kestrelx keep going:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::roll eyes::rolleyes:

Wrighty 05-03-2012 18:07

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 975362)
So now ALL the best ground breaking music owes its creation to recreational drugs, it amazes me how any of us function without taking drugs to make us more creative,enlightened, spiritually aware, socially responsible and all round good eggs you nearly have me converted kestrelx keep going:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::roll eyes::rolleyes:

What would you call ground breaking music tho ?

Some of the best musicians & best bands from both sides of the pond have produced some of there best material while intoxicated

walkinman221 05-03-2012 18:10

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975327)
No - it's about the Beatles, The Who, Hendrix all who's groundbreaking music was largely influenced by recreational drugs. The question is "without using drugs would these acts have created such groundbreaking music?" And would Rock/Pop music have been what it was.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975383)
What would you call ground breaking music tho ?

Some of the best musicians & best bands from both sides of the pond have produced some of there best material while intoxicated

His words not mine;)

garinda 05-03-2012 18:13

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975349)
So cannabis can lead to cocane and that can lead to heroin?

Is that what you are saying to put it in layman terms

Yes, it can.

Though of course not in every case.

As I've already said umpteen times, if you take the trouble to read what's already been posted in this thread.

Some 'soft' drug users will stay using those narcotics for a lifetime.

However, all those addicted to 'hard' drugs, started their sorrowful journey by first taking 'soft' drugs.

Take the time to read what's already been said, before asking anymore daft questions, which have already been addressed.

jaysay 05-03-2012 18:17

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 975374)
There is only one way to prevent him talking to you again, that is to prove yourself to be an Officer & a Gentleman, pick up the metophorical revolver, walk into the study and...

He'd miss Less:rolleyes:

garinda 05-03-2012 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975359)
Wooow eee, he don't like it up him captain mainwaring :rolleyes:

Probably be more threats made of Actual Bodily Harm, next.

Addled, and not the sense they were born with.

I blame the drugs.

No self-control.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 18:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975389)
Yes, it can.

Though of course not in every case.

As I've already said umpteen times, if you take the trouble to read what's already been posted in this thread.

Some 'soft' drug users will stay using those narcotics for a lifetime.

However, all those addicted to 'hard' drugs, started their sorrowful journey by first taking 'soft' drugs.

Take the time to read what's already been said, before asking anymore daft questions, which have already been addressed.


So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs.

Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs.

garinda 05-03-2012 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975345)
YOU ARE SCUM!!! DON'T TALK TO ME AGAIN!!!

Are you being forced to read this against your will, which makes it seem I'm 'talking to you'.

Can't you help it?

Is it those voices in your head, making you do it?

Blimey, years of excessive 'recreational' drug taking affects you even more badly than we first thought.

garinda 05-03-2012 18:31

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975398)
So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs.

Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs.

Read the thread.

I'm not repeating myself again, because you have so little concentration.

Did you always suffer from it, or is it something that's happened recently?

What do you think triggered it?

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975404)
Read the thread.

I'm not repeating myself again, because you have so little concentration.

Did you always suffer from it, or is it something that's happened recently?

What do you think triggered it?


I have asked you questions before but if they are to difficult you choose to ignore them there are over 60 pages it would take me hours to read through them all it would take you mere minutes to write the answer to my question. I think you have no answer if you do prove it aand write it if you dont make the usual sarcastic coment i will take it as you dont have one and will make sure i dont ask you any difficult questions in future.

mobertol 05-03-2012 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975349)
So cannabis can lead to cocane and that can lead to heroin?

Is that what you are saying to put it in layman terms

In cookery terms -when you start getting used to a bit of Chilli pepper you keep needing more spice - it doesn't take long before you're on Jalapeno's full-time...:rolleyes::D

Less 05-03-2012 18:48

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975406)
I have asked you questions before but if they are to difficult you choose to ignore them there are over 60 pages it would take me hours to read through them all it would take you mere minutes to write the answer to my question. I think you have no answer if you do prove it aand write it if you dont make the usual sarcastic coment i will take it as you dont have one and will make sure i dont ask you any difficult questions in future.

He has given his answer, if you can't be bothered to read through the thread to make sure you understand what is going on, then please post no more, it only takes a little concentration, if you are finding it difficult then close one eye, you may focus better.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 18:53

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 975426)
He has given his answer, if you can't be bothered to read through the thread to make sure you understand what is going on, then please post no more, it only takes a little concentration, if you are finding it difficult then close one eye, you may focus better.


I dont think he has given the answer to that feel free to prove me wrong by finding were he aswerd

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975398)
So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs.


Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs.


Less 05-03-2012 19:00

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975428)
I dont think he has given the answer to that feel free to prove me wrong by finding were he aswerd

I think, (without prejudice), you are an arse, look for yourself you lazy sod!

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 19:07

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 975436)
I think, (without prejudice), you are an arse, look for yourself you lazy sod!

It would have been just as quick for you to press quote were he had answerd but you didnt. As i said i dont think he has answerd the question you said he has but would rather start name calling then press the quote button. You said he had answerd so I asume you hav seen the answer?? Or were you just trusting that he has answerd because he said it. He complains when people dont answer his questions yet when he is given a difficult one he doesnt answer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975398)
So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs.


Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs.


Less 05-03-2012 19:21

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975442)
It would have been just as quick for you to press quote were he had answerd but you didnt. As i said i dont think he has answerd the question you said he has but would rather start name calling then press the quote button. You said he had answerd so I asume you hav seen the answer?? Or were you just trusting that he has answerd because he said it. He complains when people dont answer his questions yet when he is given a difficult one he doesnt answer.

Assume away, unless you look you'll never know, like rindy, I have little patience for wasted minds, somehow yours appears to fit within that area.

Save some time, don't try to be smart, (it isn't and never will work for you), either look for yourself or shut up.

garinda 05-03-2012 19:24

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975406)
I have asked you questions before but if they are to difficult you choose to ignore them there are over 60 pages it would take me hours to read through them all it would take you mere minutes to write the answer to my question. I think you have no answer if you do prove it aand write it if you dont make the usual sarcastic coment i will take it as you dont have one and will make sure i dont ask you any difficult questions in future.

I really haven't the inclination, to give exactly the same answers I've already given.

Try and muster a little concentration, or live with the fact you aren't going to know the answers.

Knowledge is power.

;)

Sixty pages?

Wow.

That's nearly as many pages as a comic.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 19:27

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 975450)
Assume away, unless you look you'll never know, like rindy, I have little patience for wasted minds, somehow yours appears to fit within that area.

Save some time, don't try to be smart, (it isn't and never will work for you), either look for yourself or shut up.


So you cant find the quote then? I am just trying to ask a user a question why are you making it personal? As i have stated there are over 60 pages it could take me hours to find the answer (if there is one) were it would take him minutes to type it.

If someone has seen the answer and hits the quote button or just gives me the page number i would be very gratefull i think with what he typed in recent posts i have raised a good point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975398)
So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs.


Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs.

:confused:

cashman 05-03-2012 19:30

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Only point yeh have made is yer too bone idle to look.:rolleyes:

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975453)
I really haven't the inclination, to give exactly the same answers I've already given.

Try and muster a little concentration, or live with the fact you aren't going to know the answers.

Knowledge is power.

;)

Sixty pages?

Wow.

That's nearly as many pages as a comic.


So you went sarcastic you dont have the answer it would have been quicker for you to type the answer. well done you you have avoided a question.

It could take me hours to find it

I dont believe you have posted it

Just type the answer you were being called a troll earlier with someone saying things like your just antaginising people. I belive this is what you are trying to do because your just being sarcastic and refusing to answer a question which is very hypocritical as you were complaining at people for not answering your questions before.

Come on just type it or quote it I genuinely asked you a question but when there is no answer people get personal

Less 05-03-2012 19:50

tommiafc contributes what? To the further knowlege of mankind?

ZZZZZZZZZZZ.

garinda 05-03-2012 19:51

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975461)
It could take me hours to find it

I dont believe you have posted it.

Oh I don't tell lies.

Read.

You'll see.

Well, as long as long as a few 'big' words aren't too hard to fathom.


;)


Have you always being a bit slow, as well as lazy?

Or have you found it's got worse, since you started taking drugs recreationally?

garinda 05-03-2012 19:55

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975455)
So you cant find the quote then? I am just trying to ask a user a question why are you making it personal? As i have stated there are over 60 pages it could take me hours to find the answer (if there is one) were it would take him minutes to type it.

If someone has seen the answer and hits the quote button or just gives me the page number i would be very gratefull i think with what he typed in recent posts i have raised a good point.



:confused:

You could have read the whole sodding thread by now, in the time you've wasted posting drivel.

Sixty pages.

Big deal.

It's not a book.

I think you'd struggle with that.

At least unril you've gone cold turkey.

We'll save reading a book until you're clean.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975466)
Oh I don't tell lies.

Read.

You'll see.

Well, as long as long as a few 'big' words aren't too hard to fathom.


;)


Have you always being a bit slow, as well as lazy?

Or have you found it's got worse, since you started taking drugs recreationally?

I dont take drugs recreationally I was just asking a question but it seems all anyone can do it get personal and abuse me for no reason.

I asked you a question. I have presviously looked through the forum and not noticed an answer to this question i dont belive you have one and all you are doing is trying to bully your way out of it by using personal abuse. You complained enough when people didnt answer yours.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 19:57

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975468)
You could have read the whole sodding thread by now, in the time you've wasted posting drivel.

Sixty pages.

Big deal.

It's not a book.

I think you'd struggle with that.

At least unril you've gone cold turkey.

We'll save reading a book until you're clean.

Im not sat by the pc constantly i have been on with other things (cooking cleaning etc)

garinda 05-03-2012 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975470)
I dont take drugs recreationally I was just asking a question but it seems all anyone can do it get personal and abuse me for no reason.

I asked you a question. I have presviously looked through the forum and not noticed an answer to this question i dont belive you have one and all you are doing is trying to bully your way out of it by using personal abuse. You complained enough when people didnt answer yours.

Read.

All the questions you've asked have already been addressed.

Everyone else has read the thread, if they're already reading this, know that this is a fact.

Read.

Power is knowledge.

Get some.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975479)
Read.

All the questions you've asked have already been addressed.

Everyone else has read the thread, if they're already reading this, know that this is a fact.

Read.

Power is knowledge.

Get some.


Well done you avoided answering again i therfore am going to take it as you have no answer you should have read im not sat at the pc all night so am obviosly not going too look for something you cant answer.

I win go me you cant answer i have plenty of knowledge a good job a wonderfull girlfriend and brilliant friends. What have you got???? the ability to avoid a question on a town forum well done you your life is now complete thank you and good night feel free to abuse me all you like to compensate for your shortfalls in life :tongueout

Michael1954 05-03-2012 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975482)
Well done you avoided answering again i therfore am going to take it as you have no answer you should have read im not sat at the pc all night so am obviosly not going too look for something you cant answer.

I win go me you cant answer i have plenty of knowledge a good job a wonderfull girlfriend and brilliant friends. What have you got???? the ability to avoid a question on a town forum well done you your life is now complete thank you and good night feel free to abuse me all you like to compensate for your shortfalls in life :tongueout

You have been posting on this thread since about 21 February. You have had more than enough time to read the thread. It's common courtesy to others to read a thread before contributing to it. Have you any courtesy?

Less 05-03-2012 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 975492)
Have you any courtesy?

Oh you'll be confusing him now, he'll think that's some form of natural yoghurt.

garinda 05-03-2012 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975482)
Well done you avoided answering again i therfore am going to take it as you have no answer you should have read im not sat at the pc all night

All the time you've wasted this evening, posting gibberish, about questions that everyone else has already read the answers to in this thread, could very easily have been spent reading this whole thread, in half the time.

Though logic doesn't seem to be one of your strong points.

The few people who've tried to argue pro-drugs in this thread, have come across as 'not all there'. All of them.

Best advert for not taking 'recreational' drugs ever.

Well done to you for that.

Since you can't muster enough energy to concentrate to do a little reading, you'd be better off going to skin up.

Knowledge is power.

Though some are too powerless to even understand this concept.

Nevermind achieve it.

You bore me now.

You're too soft (in the head.)

I feel a need to move on to harder, more challenging, exciting members.

tommiasfc 05-03-2012 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975495)
All the time you've wasted this evening, posting gibberish, about questions that everyone else has already read the answers to in this thread, could very easily have been spent reading this whole thread, in half the time.

Though logic doesn't seem to be one of your strong points.

The few people who've tried to argue pro-drugs in this thread, have come across as 'not all there'. All of them.

Best advert for not taking 'recreational' drugs ever.

Well done to you for that.

Since you can't muster enough energy to concentrate to do a little reading, you'd be better off going to skin up.

Knowledge is power.

Though some are too powerless to even understand this concept.

Nevermind achieve it.

You bore me now.

You're too soft (in the head.)

I feel a need to move on to harder, more challenging, exciting members.

in my most recent post i asked you a question i did not say you should legalise drugs if you think that alcohol is ok it was a simple question to your views on how one thing can lead to another

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975398)
So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs.

Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs.

I win you lose I have work tommorow goodbye keyboard warrior stick to bullying when you cant argue. You are nothing to me or nothing to anyone your pathetic lonley man on a website bullying people because you cant achieve anything in real life :tongueout

garinda 05-03-2012 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975507)
in my most recent post i asked you a question i did not say you should legalise drugs if you think that alcohol is ok it was a simple question to your views on how one thing can lead to another



I win you lose I have work tommorow goodbye keyboard warrior stick to bullying when you cant argue. You are nothing to me or nothing to anyone your pathetic lonley man on a website bullying people because you cant achieve anything in real life :tongueout

I'd achieved more in life by the time I started school, at the age of four, than you apparently have.

I'd realised by then that when you know nowt, best to keep your gob shut.

Now go and skin up, and pop back in your self-deluded little bubble.

;)

Less 06-03-2012 05:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975507)
in my most recent post i asked you a question
I win you lose I have work tommorow

It would seem you refrain from answering questions, I will repeat it for you below:-

Quote:

I no but i no im going to get up in morning and continue my career. Im just entertaining him because this is probably all he has left in his life. He thinks its bad to put chemicals in your body but probably drinks alcohol and coffee and takes painkiller and anyone that disagrees is dim
I wonder,

You claim to have a career, would it be a responsible job such as a care worker?

Or
Could it be?
That you are a member of the teaching profession?
Judging from your above post such expertise in spelling, punctuation and grammar, has me thinking, you have the skills to hold down a job as head of the English department at one of our more superior Comprehensives.
Do you live in the area of the school? Amongst your pupils or do you commute to toxteth on a daily basis so that you can provide your charges with a superior quality of mind bending products at play time?
Or
Maybe I'm being over-ambitious with my opinion of you and your career training has reached it's peak by uttering no more than the phrase,
"Do you want frys with that?...Man".
If drugs don't attract idiots, they certainly seem to turn ordinary folk into them!
P.S. I was given the idea that drug users are members of a 'free society', therefore, above the law, so why do you need them legalised? (unless you wish to conform and join with the rest of us).

kestrelx 06-03-2012 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 975333)
He'll be pleased you told us that. Can we have his name so we can have a chat with him about his experiences?
Although if he's a GP and a writer it shouldn't be difficult to find him.

Typical of you mate! You ignore what I'm saying and twist it to make it into a negative statement! Thickk or what - how come a Doctor is able to do a responsible job - contrary to what you think!

kestrelx 06-03-2012 11:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975355)
All those you mention had genuine tallent before any drugs came into their lives, in a lot of cases drug was their downfall, well it sure was for Hendrix, it eventual killed him, or the effects of drugs did

Hendrix was killed by barbiturates, in the official version of events, which are prescription drugs! However there are theories that he was murdered (not saying I believe them) also that the ambulance men did not treat him right and kept him on his back instead of putting him on his side....

The Enduring Legacy of LSD In Contemporary Music

kestrelx 06-03-2012 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975406)
I have asked you questions before but if they are to difficult you choose to ignore them there are over 60 pages it would take me hours to read through them all it would take you mere minutes to write the answer to my question. I think you have no answer if you do prove it aand write it if you dont make the usual sarcastic coment i will take it as you dont have one and will make sure i dont ask you any difficult questions in future.

Your right mate - this fella doesn't like answering questions - but likes spouting his biased opinions! ;)

kestrelx 06-03-2012 11:58

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975461)
So you went sarcastic you dont have the answer it would have been quicker for you to type the answer. well done you you have avoided a question.

It could take me hours to find it

I dont believe you have posted it

Just type the answer you were being called a troll earlier with someone saying things like your just antaginising people. I belive this is what you are trying to do because your just being sarcastic and refusing to answer a question which is very hypocritical as you were complaining at people for not answering your questions before.

Come on just type it or quote it I genuinely asked you a question but when there is no answer people get personal

These people like Garinda, Less, Cashman and Jaysay etc arn't bothered about the facts here they are only concerned with undermining any decent fact based debate about drugs.

They believe what they read in papers like the Daily Mail who also twist facts for their own agenda!

Read this:

Cannabis 'kills 30,000 a year' | Mail Online

Death from a Cannabis overdose is extremely rare - if ever! FACT! This Daily Mail headline is lies!

kestrelx 06-03-2012 12:03

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975470)
I dont take drugs recreationally I was just asking a question but it seems all anyone can do it get personal and abuse me for no reason.

I asked you a question. I have presviously looked through the forum and not noticed an answer to this question i dont belive you have one and all you are doing is trying to bully your way out of it by using personal abuse. You complained enough when people didnt answer yours.

That's right Tommiasfc you sussed them out, this is Garinda's Modus Operandi! Playing mind games to try and beat down the argument and undermine the facts!

kestrelx 06-03-2012 12:12

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975383)
What would you call ground breaking music tho ?

Some of the best musicians & best bands from both sides of the pond have produced some of there best material while intoxicated

What I said; The Beatles "Revolver" and "Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club!" The Doors, Jimi Hendrix "Are you Experienced!" Pink Floyd, Beach Boys and all psychedelic music from about 65 onwards! Not only the music but pioneered sound recording, multi-tracking and sound production techniques!

Psychedelic Fungi and Its Impact on Art

kestrelx 06-03-2012 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975507)
in my most recent post i asked you a question i did not say you should legalise drugs if you think that alcohol is ok it was a simple question to your views on how one thing can lead to another



I win you lose I have work tommorow goodbye keyboard warrior stick to bullying when you cant argue. You are nothing to me or nothing to anyone your pathetic lonley man on a website bullying people because you cant achieve anything in real life :tongueout

Ha ha ha! Bull's Eye!!! :thankya::thankya:

***Mr D*** 06-03-2012 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975495)
The few people who've tried to argue pro-drugs in this thread, have come across as 'not all there'. All of them.

Can you elaborate what you mean by Pro-drugs.

Also not that im paranoid (Before you try to state this) but if your "not all there" comment is aimed any where in my direction be polite and say so.

I have put up my thoughts in the thread.

Garinda, I did however think as you say you have dealt with 100 of drug addicts you would know a bit more than you do, and be a bit less harsh with people you presume are drug users.

I feel though there is no need for personal attacks, I see this from both sides, no need, banter & fun yes, nasty comments are not needed.

cashman 06-03-2012 12:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975595)
These people like Garinda, Less, Cashman and Jaysay etc arn't bothered about the facts here they are only concerned with undermining any decent fact based debate about drugs.

They believe what they read in papers like the Daily Mail who also twist facts for their own agenda

If it make yeh happy in yer solitary little world, Thats fine wi me.:D

tommiasfc 06-03-2012 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975596)
That's right Tommiasfc you sussed them out, this is Garinda's Modus Operandi! Playing mind games to try and beat down the argument and undermine the facts!

I asked a genuine question and i got called and arse among people assuming i take drugs when asked i said i don't take drugs but then got told to go 'skin up' i only reacted after trying to be nice and ignoring insults on many occasions. Most other forums people are quite happy to help you but not here there seems to very some kind of accy web mafia were if you dare question one you get pushed out by many.

All i wanted to no is if in peoples experiences they had seen addicts of hard drugs that started on soft drugs and it progressed to a sad wasted life. Do they not think they would have started with alcohol then went to soft drugs. So why arnt they calling for alcohol to be banned alongside drugs? Its a genuine question for people that have had experience with addicts.

***Mr D*** 06-03-2012 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975607)
Most other forums people are quite happy to help you but not here there seems to very some kind of accy web mafia were if you dare question one you get pushed out by many.

Now your asking for trouble.:D

tommiasfc 06-03-2012 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 975609)
Now your asking for trouble.:D

I've never known out like it. It was as if i said so you think alcohol is ok why not all drugs but yesterday i thought id try have a decent discussion and raise a point of alcohol being a starter for soft drugs. But instead got called names. Im experienced enough to no that when people don't have a good answer and are struggling they turn on the aggression. Its like they are school children. But still if someone has an answer id like to hear it.

kestrelx 06-03-2012 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975615)
I've never known out like it. It was as if i said so you think alcohol is ok why not all drugs but yesterday i thought id try have a decent discussion and raise a point of alcohol being a starter for soft drugs. But instead got called names. Im experienced enough to no that when people don't have a good answer and are struggling they turn on the aggression. Its like they are school children. But still if someone has an answer id like to hear it.

In this day and age with kids drinking in parks and so on - I'd think that alcohol would be a starter maybe for smoking cannabis and then maybe other drugs. Because the gang that would hang around drinking in parks, would have access to drugs and there fore smoke cannabis etc. I have heard reports on the TV from different people saying that the price of alcohol abuse is anything from about 5 to 55 Billion Pounds per year!

Gordon Booth 06-03-2012 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975589)
Typical of you mate! You ignore what I'm saying and twist it to make it into a negative statement! Thickk or what - how come a Doctor is able to do a responsible job - contrary to what you think!

I'd prefer it if you remembered I'm not your mate- that could never be.

I was merely suggesting, in a gentle and non-judgemental way, that it may have been unwise of you to post on an open forum that your GP had indulged in illegal drugs! Many on here may know you(especially on seeing your rather fetching self portrait, shame you forgot to get dressed) and may therefore know(and share) your GP.
Imagine his joy when a patient walks in and says 'Peace man.kestrelx says you do spliffs and mushrooms! How about it?'
As for your GP being 'able to do a responsible job'-he's not doing too well with you, is he?

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2012 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975607)

All i wanted to no is if in peoples experiences they had seen addicts of hard drugs that started on soft drugs and it progressed to a sad wasted life. Do they not think they would have started with alcohol then went to soft drugs. So why arnt they calling for alcohol to be banned alongside drugs? Its a genuine question for people that have had experience with addicts.

I had withdrawn from this thread feeling that it was going round in non-productive circles, but I feel that having worked in the NHS for 30 years I do have something to add, in answer to your question.

Yes, I have seen addicts who started out on the so-called soft drugs go on and become addicted to other substances(heroin, cocaine, etc).

Most drunks are just that, drunks.....I cannot recall anyone who progressed to drugs via the alcohol route...although there were some addicts who were also drunks.

I think that if alcohol was being brought out today, as a recreational substance, then there would be moves to ban it....but the government gets much revenue from it sale and use...like with tobacco....so feel that it is unlikely to provoke the same kind of response as a thread to legalise illegal drugs.

Some people are unfortunate enough to have addictive personalities, and can become addicted to anything......from coffee to coca cola.

I have made my stance quite clear in earlier posts about my feelings of legalising illegal drugs......you legalise cannabis...next you legalise heroin, crack cocaine...where do you draw the line?

Whatever you say, unless these drugs(once legal) are being given to the user free,(and I can't see that happening...can you?) there is always going to be a black market in the stuff so you won't remove the dealers, the criminals, the gang culture......all the bad stuff that goes with the use of drugs....and there will still be those unfortunates whose lives are wrecked because of their drug use....families ripped apart. Drug use is not glamourous. Film stars, pop stars who use drugs to enhance their so called creativity are running exactly the same risks as the lesser mortals you could meet at the local chemist, getting their hit of Methadone.....the difference is, they are in the position of checking themselves into rehab when the highs get too scary.

I am sure if these drugs that are labelled 'recreational' were legalised, then the government would slap a tax on them...and folk would go back to their dealers.

This is definitely my last post on this subject...I won't be answering any more questions.

I hope those of you out there who use recreational drugs, live long enough to perhaps need the drugs to keep your heart ticking or your kidneys functioning(these drugs aren't fun...and like all drugs including recreational ones , can have nasty side effects), but my guess is, that you won't!

kestrelx 06-03-2012 13:50

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 975617)
I'd prefer it if you remembered I'm not your mate- that could never be.

I was merely suggesting, in a gentle and non-judgemental way, that it may have been unwise of you to post on an open forum that your GP had indulged in illegal drugs! Many on here may know you(especially on seeing your rather fetching self portrait, shame you forgot to get dressed) and may therefore know(and share) your GP.
Imagine his joy when a patient walks in and says 'Peace man.kestrelx says you do spliffs and mushrooms! How about it?'
As for your GP being 'able to do a responsible job'-he's not doing too well with you, is he?

Oooops some personal attacks in there Gordon - maybe you should read the rules! :rolleyes: Probably a large percentage of such people (more than anyone can know) have also partaken of drugs, back in the day! :) Proving that "some" drugs arn't as damaging as a lot of people here are making out!

As for your comments on "Doing a responsible job" again personal attacks against my health which are based on subjective judgements!

Gordon Booth 06-03-2012 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975619)
Oooops some personal attacks in there Gordon -

Really? I can't see any.
Next time you're with your GP( having a cosy chat about your mutual experiences?) ask him if he can recommend a treatment for paranoia and can he suggest a good course on Anger Management.

Wrighty 06-03-2012 14:10

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975597)
What I said; The Beatles "Revolver" and "Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club!" The Doors, Jimi Hendrix "Are you Experienced!" Pink Floyd, Beach Boys and all psychedelic music from about 65 onwards! Not only the music but pioneered sound recording, multi-tracking and sound production techniques!

Psychedelic Fungi and Its Impact on Art

Dude i totally agree with ya 100% , some of the best bands & musicians have produced quality tunes while under the influence of drugs .. soz for any confusion

tommiasfc 06-03-2012 14:24

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Margaret pilkington thank you very much and i agree with you about if alcohol was a modern day substance it would have a movement to get it banned. But when i was a 16 year old drinking on the streets / top of coppice the were quite often weed smokers around now i never tried it at such a young age but ill admit i have tried it but my friends would then a few of them would actually go out to smoke weed not drink. Are these cases of alcohol leading onto drugs or just a case of being a teen?

Wrighty 06-03-2012 14:26

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Out of all the illegal drugs , Marijuana should be legal .... CLEAR: Cannabis Law Reform

MargaretR 06-03-2012 14:28

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 975623)
Margaret R thank you very much and i agree with you about if alcohol was a modern day substance it would have a movement to get it banned.

I don't recall saying that.
Looking back a few posts it seems Margaret Pilkington did.

tommiasfc 06-03-2012 14:33

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 975625)
I don't recall saying that.
Looking back a few posts it seems Margaret Pilkington did.

Sorry on the phone and must have forgot

cashman 06-03-2012 14:33

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 975625)
I don't recall saying that.
Looking back a few posts it seems Margaret Pilkington did.

Fortunately thats only minimal damage Margaret.:hehetable

annesingleton 06-03-2012 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975323)
People keep posting comments about me so I will reply - when they stop I stop!

That's quite a childish comment to make!
I have also posted the rest of this on the porn discussion in the TV section, as the two threads seem to be merging into one.
You appear to be getting extremely frustrated and wound up by the comments being made to you, yet you continue to respond. Surely you realise that people have the right to their own opinions whether they are founded on sound knowledge or research or simply based on their own values and beliefs. Nothing you say is likely to change their views and opinions so it is pointless trying to do so, or trying to appear clever by your apparently web based knowledge.
As for people apparently being rude to you, I must say that I have been extremely shocked to read some of the personal attacks you have made in particular on the legalising drugs thread (I refer especially to a comment you made to Garinda which I personally found to be particularly offensive.)
My point is that if you don't like what is being said to you or if you just cannot tolerate other peoples views then don't try to antagonise people and just stop posting. Otherwise, try a bit of tolerance!

walkinman221 06-03-2012 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975592)
Hendrix was killed by barbiturates, in the official version of events, which are prescription drugs! However there are theories that he was murdered (not saying I believe them) also that the ambulance men did not treat him right and kept him on his back instead of putting him on his side....

The Enduring Legacy of LSD In Contemporary Music

Hendrix killed by barbiturates you say which are prescription drugs granted.Was hendrix being prescribed them or had he obtained them from another source? As marg p (a former nursing sister ) has said all drugs are dangerous whether prescribed or obtained by other means.;)

jaysay 06-03-2012 17:35

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975595)
These people like Garinda, Less, Cashman and Jaysay etc aren't bothered about the facts here they are only concerned with undermining any decent fact based debate about drugs.

They believe what they read in papers like the Daily Mail who also twist facts for their own agenda!

Read this:

Cannabis 'kills 30,000 a year' | Mail Online

Death from a Cannabis overdose is extremely rare - if ever! FACT! This Daily Mail headline is lies!

There is no debate on drugs amongst right minded people, drugs are an evil that need to be eradicated from society not placated by brain addled clowns like you

jaysay 06-03-2012 17:42

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975619)
Oooops some personal attacks in there Gordon - maybe you should read the rules! :rolleyes: Probably a large percentage of such people (more than anyone can know) have also partaken of drugs, back in the day! :) Proving that "some" drugs arn't as damaging as a lot of people here are making out!

As for your comments on "Doing a responsible job" again personal attacks against my health which are based on subjective judgements!

Well you ain't making a very good case for "some" drugs aren't as damaging as a lot of people make out are, its obviously addled your brain many moons ago, it may have been better if you'd just have said NO in the first place

jaysay 06-03-2012 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 975653)
Hendrix killed by barbiturates you say which are prescription drugs granted.Was hendrix being prescribed them or had he obtained them from another source? As marg p (a former nursing sister ) has said all drugs are dangerous whether prescribed or obtained by other means.;)

Your spot on there Dave, I'm no stranger to prescribed drugs, without them I wouldn't be around, but I probably know as much if not more about those drugs I'm taking than some medics, I know all about what they do just how strong a dose my body can take to alleviate some symptoms (I do have a self management plan) and the most important thing of all the interaction between certain drugs. Only last week I was put on some very strong anti biotic, but I instantly knew that I had to halve the intake of another drug which interacts with it. Knowing just how important the use of prescribed drugs are in health care program, it really does pee me off when clowns like we have on here are trying to justify take drugs for fun, they're just brain dead morons :mad:

kestrelx 06-03-2012 21:10

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 975620)
Really? I can't see any.
Next time you're with your GP( having a cosy chat about your mutual experiences?) ask him if he can recommend a treatment for paranoia and can he suggest a good course on Anger Management.

Rubbish!

kestrelx 06-03-2012 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 975653)
Hendrix killed by barbiturates you say which are prescription drugs granted.Was hendrix being prescribed them or had he obtained them from another source? As marg p (a former nursing sister ) has said all drugs are dangerous whether prescribed or obtained by other means.;)

His girlfriend gave them to him to help him sleep according to the official version of events!:rolleyes:

kestrelx 06-03-2012 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975663)
There is no debate on drugs amongst right minded people, drugs are an evil that need to be eradicated from society not placated by brain addled clowns like you


Does that include tobacco and alcohol? I take it then that you won't want to sign the petition to legalise cannabis? :confused: :rolleyes:

Legalise cannabis - e-petitions

jaysay 07-03-2012 08:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975773)
Does that include tobacco and alcohol? I take it then that you won't want to sign the petition to legalise cannabis? :confused: :rolleyes:

Legalise cannabis - e-petitions

Na that's for Jackasses like you

kestrelx 08-03-2012 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975819)
Na that's for Jackasses like you

In this program shown on BBC 1 yesterday, story about Cannabis extract "Sativex" which contains active cannabis chemicals, It's available on the NHS for pain relief for MS sufferers! Many who have to buy cannabis illegally as it is a very effective pain killer. Is this why it's banned - the big money pharmacutrical companies, in league with the government don't want people "growing their own" effective pain relief!? :confused: They want us to pay for it through the chemists! - Just a suggestion please no abuse for this! lol!2nd story on BBC i Player... the story about Sativex is the 2nd one into the program:

BBC iPlayer - Postcode Lottery: Episode 3

Sativex is a cannabis extract... :D

Sativex -

annesingleton 08-03-2012 16:57

Re: Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?
 
If you read previous posts you'll find that nobody is against the legal use of drugs for medicinal purposes, it is the illegal use of drugs for so called recreational purposes which people object to. I can't be bothered to go to your links because quite honestly you can find anything to suit any argument on the internet so you need to decide specifically what you are trying to prove and then broaden your research methods in order to put forward a more credible argument.


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