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I would rather illegal drugs were kept illegal than for the powers that be to legalise them on the recommendation of half wits such as you. This is not a personal insult by the way, it is a conclusion I have come to having read what you and others of you ilk have put forward as reasons to legalise these substances, not a good read, you do your cause no good at all. |
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I wouldn't like to miss out on a juicy piece of gossip. :) |
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But then he doesn't want people to keep mentioning it. Doesn't seem to know what he wants...:rolleyes: |
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Seeing as you've boasted of your use of illegal drugs, and since there's a high incidence of criminality associated with drug usage, asking whether your brother partook of drugs, the same way you have, seems a relevant question. Talking of questions. You say heroin shouldn't be legalised 'at the moment'. When should it be made legal, and freely available to all, and what makes it different from crack cocaine, say? Can you list what currently illegal drugs you'd like to see legally available for all and sundry, to take 'recreationally'? |
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I haven't. You are wrong, once again. This is where you keep proving that taking drugs recreationally addles your brain. I said so called soft drugs 'can' lead on to harder drugs. Not every cannabis user goes on to become a heroin addict. However, every heroin addict started their pitiful journey by first taking 'softer' drugs. |
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we went back to her place and she kicked me in the nuts then tied me up in her cellar with her rope it was then i learned that heroine was bad for you :D |
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Come Fly With Me - Drugs - YouTube Here is an article I pulled out that says Ecstacy "could" help Parkinson's sufferers? BBC NEWS | Health | Ecstasy 'could aid Parkinson's patients' BBC News | HEALTH | Ecstasy 'relieves Parkinson's Disease' |
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Most of the ground breaking popular music wouldn't have happened but for the influence of drugs.
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Many of em made a load of crap after, The stuff before was better.
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Although if he's a GP and a writer it shouldn't be difficult to find him. |
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a bit off topic but is that toad in your avatar one of those magic ones that excreets natural LSD and is sucked on to get high kestrel ?
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No one's said that. Those who are addicted to heroin etc, start off taking 'softer' drugs. Fact. Please feel free to prove you aren't spouting more guff, by quoting any person in this thread, who has said 'drugs are lethal and lead to serious damaging addiction, for everybody who takes them'. |
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Oh dear.
Gone. Must have popped a downer. |
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Is that what you are saying to put it in layman terms |
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So now ALL the best ground breaking music owes its creation to recreational drugs, it amazes me how any of us function without taking drugs to make us more creative,enlightened, spiritually aware, socially responsible and all round good eggs you nearly have me converted kestrelx keep going:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::roll eyes::rolleyes:
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Some of the best musicians & best bands from both sides of the pond have produced some of there best material while intoxicated |
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Though of course not in every case. As I've already said umpteen times, if you take the trouble to read what's already been posted in this thread. Some 'soft' drug users will stay using those narcotics for a lifetime. However, all those addicted to 'hard' drugs, started their sorrowful journey by first taking 'soft' drugs. Take the time to read what's already been said, before asking anymore daft questions, which have already been addressed. |
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Addled, and not the sense they were born with. I blame the drugs. No self-control. |
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So how many of those addicted to hard drugs actualy started off their journey with alcohol then went onto soft drugs. Why you not saying. Drugs should not be legalised and alcohol should also be made illegal because every drug addict started with alcohol then went on the soft drugs then hard drugs. |
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Can't you help it? Is it those voices in your head, making you do it? Blimey, years of excessive 'recreational' drug taking affects you even more badly than we first thought. |
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I'm not repeating myself again, because you have so little concentration. Did you always suffer from it, or is it something that's happened recently? What do you think triggered it? |
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I have asked you questions before but if they are to difficult you choose to ignore them there are over 60 pages it would take me hours to read through them all it would take you mere minutes to write the answer to my question. I think you have no answer if you do prove it aand write it if you dont make the usual sarcastic coment i will take it as you dont have one and will make sure i dont ask you any difficult questions in future. |
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I dont think he has given the answer to that feel free to prove me wrong by finding were he aswerd Quote:
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Save some time, don't try to be smart, (it isn't and never will work for you), either look for yourself or shut up. |
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Try and muster a little concentration, or live with the fact you aren't going to know the answers. Knowledge is power. ;) Sixty pages? Wow. That's nearly as many pages as a comic. |
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So you cant find the quote then? I am just trying to ask a user a question why are you making it personal? As i have stated there are over 60 pages it could take me hours to find the answer (if there is one) were it would take him minutes to type it. If someone has seen the answer and hits the quote button or just gives me the page number i would be very gratefull i think with what he typed in recent posts i have raised a good point. Quote:
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Only point yeh have made is yer too bone idle to look.:rolleyes:
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So you went sarcastic you dont have the answer it would have been quicker for you to type the answer. well done you you have avoided a question. It could take me hours to find it I dont believe you have posted it Just type the answer you were being called a troll earlier with someone saying things like your just antaginising people. I belive this is what you are trying to do because your just being sarcastic and refusing to answer a question which is very hypocritical as you were complaining at people for not answering your questions before. Come on just type it or quote it I genuinely asked you a question but when there is no answer people get personal |
tommiafc contributes what? To the further knowlege of mankind?
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Read. You'll see. Well, as long as long as a few 'big' words aren't too hard to fathom. ;) Have you always being a bit slow, as well as lazy? Or have you found it's got worse, since you started taking drugs recreationally? |
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Sixty pages. Big deal. It's not a book. I think you'd struggle with that. At least unril you've gone cold turkey. We'll save reading a book until you're clean. |
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I asked you a question. I have presviously looked through the forum and not noticed an answer to this question i dont belive you have one and all you are doing is trying to bully your way out of it by using personal abuse. You complained enough when people didnt answer yours. |
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All the questions you've asked have already been addressed. Everyone else has read the thread, if they're already reading this, know that this is a fact. Read. Power is knowledge. Get some. |
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Well done you avoided answering again i therfore am going to take it as you have no answer you should have read im not sat at the pc all night so am obviosly not going too look for something you cant answer. I win go me you cant answer i have plenty of knowledge a good job a wonderfull girlfriend and brilliant friends. What have you got???? the ability to avoid a question on a town forum well done you your life is now complete thank you and good night feel free to abuse me all you like to compensate for your shortfalls in life :tongueout |
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Though logic doesn't seem to be one of your strong points. The few people who've tried to argue pro-drugs in this thread, have come across as 'not all there'. All of them. Best advert for not taking 'recreational' drugs ever. Well done to you for that. Since you can't muster enough energy to concentrate to do a little reading, you'd be better off going to skin up. Knowledge is power. Though some are too powerless to even understand this concept. Nevermind achieve it. You bore me now. You're too soft (in the head.) I feel a need to move on to harder, more challenging, exciting members. |
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I'd realised by then that when you know nowt, best to keep your gob shut. Now go and skin up, and pop back in your self-deluded little bubble. ;) |
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You claim to have a career, would it be a responsible job such as a care worker? Or Could it be? That you are a member of the teaching profession? Judging from your above post such expertise in spelling, punctuation and grammar, has me thinking, you have the skills to hold down a job as head of the English department at one of our more superior Comprehensives. Do you live in the area of the school? Amongst your pupils or do you commute to toxteth on a daily basis so that you can provide your charges with a superior quality of mind bending products at play time? Or Maybe I'm being over-ambitious with my opinion of you and your career training has reached it's peak by uttering no more than the phrase, "Do you want frys with that?...Man". If drugs don't attract idiots, they certainly seem to turn ordinary folk into them! P.S. I was given the idea that drug users are members of a 'free society', therefore, above the law, so why do you need them legalised? (unless you wish to conform and join with the rest of us). |
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They believe what they read in papers like the Daily Mail who also twist facts for their own agenda! Read this: Cannabis 'kills 30,000 a year' | Mail Online Death from a Cannabis overdose is extremely rare - if ever! FACT! This Daily Mail headline is lies! |
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Also not that im paranoid (Before you try to state this) but if your "not all there" comment is aimed any where in my direction be polite and say so. I have put up my thoughts in the thread. Garinda, I did however think as you say you have dealt with 100 of drug addicts you would know a bit more than you do, and be a bit less harsh with people you presume are drug users. I feel though there is no need for personal attacks, I see this from both sides, no need, banter & fun yes, nasty comments are not needed. |
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All i wanted to no is if in peoples experiences they had seen addicts of hard drugs that started on soft drugs and it progressed to a sad wasted life. Do they not think they would have started with alcohol then went to soft drugs. So why arnt they calling for alcohol to be banned alongside drugs? Its a genuine question for people that have had experience with addicts. |
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I was merely suggesting, in a gentle and non-judgemental way, that it may have been unwise of you to post on an open forum that your GP had indulged in illegal drugs! Many on here may know you(especially on seeing your rather fetching self portrait, shame you forgot to get dressed) and may therefore know(and share) your GP. Imagine his joy when a patient walks in and says 'Peace man.kestrelx says you do spliffs and mushrooms! How about it?' As for your GP being 'able to do a responsible job'-he's not doing too well with you, is he? |
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Yes, I have seen addicts who started out on the so-called soft drugs go on and become addicted to other substances(heroin, cocaine, etc). Most drunks are just that, drunks.....I cannot recall anyone who progressed to drugs via the alcohol route...although there were some addicts who were also drunks. I think that if alcohol was being brought out today, as a recreational substance, then there would be moves to ban it....but the government gets much revenue from it sale and use...like with tobacco....so feel that it is unlikely to provoke the same kind of response as a thread to legalise illegal drugs. Some people are unfortunate enough to have addictive personalities, and can become addicted to anything......from coffee to coca cola. I have made my stance quite clear in earlier posts about my feelings of legalising illegal drugs......you legalise cannabis...next you legalise heroin, crack cocaine...where do you draw the line? Whatever you say, unless these drugs(once legal) are being given to the user free,(and I can't see that happening...can you?) there is always going to be a black market in the stuff so you won't remove the dealers, the criminals, the gang culture......all the bad stuff that goes with the use of drugs....and there will still be those unfortunates whose lives are wrecked because of their drug use....families ripped apart. Drug use is not glamourous. Film stars, pop stars who use drugs to enhance their so called creativity are running exactly the same risks as the lesser mortals you could meet at the local chemist, getting their hit of Methadone.....the difference is, they are in the position of checking themselves into rehab when the highs get too scary. I am sure if these drugs that are labelled 'recreational' were legalised, then the government would slap a tax on them...and folk would go back to their dealers. This is definitely my last post on this subject...I won't be answering any more questions. I hope those of you out there who use recreational drugs, live long enough to perhaps need the drugs to keep your heart ticking or your kidneys functioning(these drugs aren't fun...and like all drugs including recreational ones , can have nasty side effects), but my guess is, that you won't! |
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As for your comments on "Doing a responsible job" again personal attacks against my health which are based on subjective judgements! |
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Next time you're with your GP( having a cosy chat about your mutual experiences?) ask him if he can recommend a treatment for paranoia and can he suggest a good course on Anger Management. |
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Margaret pilkington thank you very much and i agree with you about if alcohol was a modern day substance it would have a movement to get it banned. But when i was a 16 year old drinking on the streets / top of coppice the were quite often weed smokers around now i never tried it at such a young age but ill admit i have tried it but my friends would then a few of them would actually go out to smoke weed not drink. Are these cases of alcohol leading onto drugs or just a case of being a teen?
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Out of all the illegal drugs , Marijuana should be legal .... CLEAR: Cannabis Law Reform
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I have also posted the rest of this on the porn discussion in the TV section, as the two threads seem to be merging into one. You appear to be getting extremely frustrated and wound up by the comments being made to you, yet you continue to respond. Surely you realise that people have the right to their own opinions whether they are founded on sound knowledge or research or simply based on their own values and beliefs. Nothing you say is likely to change their views and opinions so it is pointless trying to do so, or trying to appear clever by your apparently web based knowledge. As for people apparently being rude to you, I must say that I have been extremely shocked to read some of the personal attacks you have made in particular on the legalising drugs thread (I refer especially to a comment you made to Garinda which I personally found to be particularly offensive.) My point is that if you don't like what is being said to you or if you just cannot tolerate other peoples views then don't try to antagonise people and just stop posting. Otherwise, try a bit of tolerance! |
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Does that include tobacco and alcohol? I take it then that you won't want to sign the petition to legalise cannabis? :confused: :rolleyes: Legalise cannabis - e-petitions |
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BBC iPlayer - Postcode Lottery: Episode 3 Sativex is a cannabis extract... :D Sativex - |
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If you read previous posts you'll find that nobody is against the legal use of drugs for medicinal purposes, it is the illegal use of drugs for so called recreational purposes which people object to. I can't be bothered to go to your links because quite honestly you can find anything to suit any argument on the internet so you need to decide specifically what you are trying to prove and then broaden your research methods in order to put forward a more credible argument.
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