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annesingleton 15-03-2012 08:29
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If you google 'Arguments against legalising drugs' there are just as many websites to support the argument against as there are in favour - which just goes to show that you can find anything to support whatever argument you need to online.

jaysay 15-03-2012 08:37
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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 977775)
But isn't there worse crimes that go without a custodial sentence the extra room could be used for?

Not that I would take coke or heroin, but it would of not been touched as it would be sealed, IMO the big shipments would come in via different methods.



I agree for certain crimes tent city would be a good option, keeping the cost down to the tax payer.



Do you know if you had an argument with the other half and went to sleep in the car with the keys in the vehicle, if you where drunk and the police arrived, you could and probably would be done for drunk and in charge of a vehicle.

Or morning after the night before, you think you fine but your just over the limit.

Do the above deserve a 5 year ban.

The people who don't care, the repeat offender would carry on driving regardless banned or not, licence or not.

Going of BG figure in 2007 - 83,975 people would be banned for 5 years, or life if a second offence, this would have a very big impact on a lot of lives.
If you have the care keys in your pocket and sat in the care any seat you deemed to be in charge, it also has a big impact on life when a drunk diver kills a loved one, to me if you kill somebody under the influence of drink its at best manslaughter at worse murder and driving without licence should be a mandatory 5 years in jail for the first offence

jaysay 15-03-2012 08:46
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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977811)
Sorry Margaret

That is too simplistic for me...we are all dealt diferent hands when we come into this world, it just isn't so easy ....

Shake up the balls. everyone wants to play -life is a bit of lottery after all...who knows what it will throw in your direction....
Sorry mobertol, I'm with Margaret on this, its the individual who chose their own lifestyle, nobody forces their arm up their back and makes them start taking drugs.

Mick 15-03-2012 08:52
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977871)
Sorry mobertol, I'm with Margaret on this, its the individual who chose their own lifestyle, nobody forces their arm up their back and makes them start taking drugs.
Wrong Jaysay this has happened in some cases of prostitution
and less forces me to have a pint on Saturdays in the railway :D

jaysay 15-03-2012 09:18
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 977872)
Wrong Jaysay this has happened in some cases of prostitution
and less forces me to have a pint on Saturdays in the railway :D
Ya but mick you don't drive:D well only Ann round the bend that is:D:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 15-03-2012 09:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 977872)
Wrong Jaysay this has happened in some cases of prostitution
When situations like that happen a criminal offence is being committed against the person.......and different from the use of illegal drugs as a recreational pursuit.

And Dianne, as for my comment being simplistic, I don't think it was.....many people face adversity in their lives.......they are dealt cards that they would not have chosen for themselves.....do they resort to the recreational use of illegal substances? Some may do, but I would think the great majority get their heads down, roll their sleeves up and head into the battle.

That is a huge difference between those people who choose to take drugs for their own pleasure, and then find out that they are hooked. They made that choice.......and as my mother used to tell me 'you made your bed, now you have to lie on it'.

***Mr D*** 15-03-2012 09:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977782)
Don't worry dearie , I'll let you know;)

Slim Whitman- When I'm calling you - YouTube

As to the rest of the debate - am sickened to the heart by this sort of thing and hope "Cavalier Garinda" will turn up on the horizon to sort out the whole "Bluddless!" lot of you...

PS am thinking of using you as a profile-case for my next TEFL courses in "how not to write the Queen's English" -will have them all logging-in to Accyweb and reading your posts...after all it is a public forum...:rolleyes:
I dont let things worry me, and Im delighted that you will be using me a your profile case, happen you will all learn something.

Well I never knew it was a public forum, Oh no, what will I do.

Makes me laugh when there is no better argument that the grammer is wrong, you cant write english properly, reading some of your posts, are you on drugs.:rolleyes:

Hope your cavalier comes to save the day.

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 977831)
You asked about legalising illegal drugs in your start of this thread.
The answer came back a resounding no.

So why not accept it and stop your wittering on your question has been answered, so leave it at that, we know you would like to and now, you know we don't want to,

End of story.
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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977832)
Thanx Less -am fed up of seeing them wittering on about this too!:)
Dont read or post in the thred then.

Im fed up with you lot winging, but that what a public forum is all about.

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 977834)
This subject has been exhausted on here.
Like many other subjects on Accy Web.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977836)
Well said-I'm fed up too!!:)
Stop posting in the thred then or are you addicted?

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977867)
If you have the care keys in your pocket and sat in the care any seat you deemed to be in charge, it also has a big impact on life when a drunk diver kills a loved one, to me if you kill somebody under the influence of drink its at best manslaughter at worse murder and driving without licence should be a mandatory 5 years in jail for the first offence
Be carefull Mobertol will be calling the grammer police on to you and you might join me as her next profile case.:rolleyes:

jaysay 15-03-2012 10:05
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While you and your gang keep justifying the use of illegal drugs I'll keep shooting you down;)

Less 15-03-2012 11:01
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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 977893)




Dont read or post in the thred then.

Im fed up with you lot winging, but that what a public forum is all about.
Well, done, such banal and infintile posts as this prove you to be living in the same primevil swamp as the other pro-legalisers, if you wish to hear only from people with the same views as yourself then it is you that should stop reading and posting, there are plenty of public forums out there feel free to use them.

***Mr D*** 15-03-2012 12:32
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977896)
While you and your gang keep justifying the use of illegal drugs I'll keep shooting you down;)
I don't think you have shot anyone down with your little one liners.;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 977906)
Well, done, such banal and infintile posts as this prove you to be living in the same primevil swamp as the other pro-legalisers, if you wish to hear only from people with the same views as yourself then it is you that should stop reading and posting, there are plenty of public forums out there feel free to use them.
But I'm not Pro Legal. Try reading what I have posted previously.

As for your unjustified comment above, again try re-reading the thread, I was only replying to people who are posting saying how rubbish and bored they where.

Happen they should take your advise.

kestrelx 15-03-2012 13:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 977856)
Bear in mind that Clear are a a pressure group working to reform the law.
For the other side,

Cannabis: key facts from the Royal College of Psychiatrists

For many of us, cannabis is a way to relax – 2 million people in the UK smoke it and half of all 16 to 29-year-olds have tried it. But research suggests that it can cause problems in some vulnerable people.

… How does cannabis work?

When smoked, cannabis from the lungs goes into the blood and is carried to every part of the body. Several chemicals in cannabis bind to receptors in areas of the brain that deal with pleasure, memory, thought, concentration and the awareness of time. There are two main kinds of chemical involved:
a group called the cannabinoids, which seem to give you the more pleasant effects – feeling relaxed, happy, sleepy, with colours appearing more vivid and music sounding better
THC, which seems to produce hallucinations, anxiety and paranoia.
These feelings don’t usually last long – although as the drug can stay in the system for some weeks, subtle effects can last a few days. Long-term use can make you depressed and less motivated.

… What is the risk to mental health?

Depression
1600 Australian children aged 14 to 15 years were studied for 7 years; the ones who used cannabis every day were five times more likely to become depressed and anxious by the end of the study.
Schizophrenia
If you start smoking cannabis before the age of 15 years, you are four times more likely to develop a psychotic illness. The more cannabis you use, the more likely you are to develop psychosis. It isn’t clear why cannabis use in adolescence seems to have such an effect, but it may be because the brain is still developing.

… Is there such a thing as ‘cannabis psychosis’?

Some people seem to get a short period of psychosis that is brought on by cannabis but which
stops soon after the cannabis is stopped.

… If it’s so dangerous, why don’t more of my friends get unwell?

Probably because most people don’t use cannabis before they are 15 and don’t go on smoking large amounts. Psychotic illness is quite unusual anyway – only about 1 in 200 people have it at any given time. Most of us probably don’t know that many people, so even if cannabis does increase the risk, you aren’t likely to notice an ‘epidemic’ among the people you know.

… What about other effects?

Education
The connection isn’t clear, but regular cannabis use does seem to affect how you do at school or college.

Employment
Cannabis users are more likely to leave work without permission, spend work time on personal matters or daydream. Regular users report that it has interfered with their work and social life.
Driving
A recent study in France showed that cannabis users are more than twice as likely to be the cause of a fatal crash than to be one of the victims.

… Is cannabis addictive?

Cannabis has some of the features of addictive drugs – a regular user has to take more and more to get the same effect (tolerance) and can get withdrawal symptoms.
Three out of four long-term users get cravings, half become irritable and seven out of ten switch to tobacco to try to stay off cannabis. Many find that they spend much of their life seeking, buying and using it. It is probably about as hard to stop as tobacco.

This article seems to focus on 14 - 15 year olds! Well in my world Cannabis would still be illegal for kids and you'd have to be 18 to legally smoke it, it would be an offence to sell it to people under 18, just like it is with alcohol.

It also talks about THC - but ignores CBD - in research the two chemicals have proven to balance each other out. Cannabidiol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia CBD stops psychotic effects that cannabis can induce. Fact is in natural grown cannabis these chemicals are in balance - but in SKUNK (grown using intensive methods - which is run by gangs) THC levels are much higher and this is what causes problems. Therefore it is prohibition that is creating this situation in which people are having to buy SKUNK = DAMAGING THEIR HEALTH!

Also there should be effective balanced DRUGS EDUCATION at schools. Sign the petition backed by the Amy Winehouse Foundation here
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/30280

Responsible department: Office of the Leader of the House of Commons


Wide consumption of 'legal highs' and club drugs place young people at risk of long term harm and even death. These substances are often regarded as safe because many are legal. However, they are often a combination of Class B drugs and toxic chemicals. There is a lack of awareness and education, not helped by the fact that drugs education is not currently on the National Curriculum. We therefore petition to urgently get effective drugs education on the National Curriculum in Schools throughout the UK, with particular attention to the implementation of proven programmes like Climate and Preventure which have been shown to significantly reduce the use of drugs, alcohol and legal highs.

kestrelx 15-03-2012 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977836)
Well said-I'm fed up too!!:)
Well don't come back then! :p

kestrelx 15-03-2012 13:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 977865)
If you google 'Arguments against legalising drugs' there are just as many websites to support the argument against as there are in favour - which just goes to show that you can find anything to support whatever argument you need to online.
Amy Winehouse Foundation petition for more education on illegal drugs. ;)

AWF Joins With Angelus As Petition Launches To Change Drug Education In UK | Amy Winehouse Foundation

Gordon Booth 15-03-2012 13:35
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977947)
Amy Winehouse Foundation petition for more education on illegal drugs. ;)
Interesting you raise Amy Winehouse, kestrelx. Didn't she die because she drank one small and two large bottles of vodka?
Sort of proves your point, doesn't it?
Well, perhaps not.
I voted 'no' on the other thread.

Wrighty 15-03-2012 14:10
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 977952)
Interesting you raise Amy Winehouse, kestrelx. Didn't she die because she drank one small and two large bottles of vodka?
Sort of proves your point, doesn't it?
Well, perhaps not.
I voted 'no' on the other thread.
She was a dug addict & abused her body ... Self inflicted

kestrelx 15-03-2012 15:10
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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 977964)
She was a dug addict & abused her body ... Self inflicted
Tabloids aside - apparently she was clean of drugs for about 2 years before her death and what killed her was alcohol not drugs, which she was free of for at least 2 years.

kestrelx 15-03-2012 15:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 977857)
Of course if you really really need drugs:

YouTube - Nelson Mandellas Crackabis
Bad taste video clip from a show I found riddled with cliches!

Again Crack addiction is nothing to do with cannabis - there is no link - crack addicts want crack not cannabis! :cool:

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 15:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977980)
Bad taste video clip from a show I found riddled with cliches!
oh I don't know, I found it quite refreshing comedy, just for that however:

YouTube - Harry & Paul - Nelson Mandela Smack And Crack Party Pack
And
YouTube - Nelson Mandela Ecstasy advert - funny

jaysay 15-03-2012 17:47
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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 977930)
I don't think you have shot anyone down with your little one liners.;)


.
I have to keep them to one liners so that brain addled fools can understand them;)

jaysay 15-03-2012 17:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977977)
Tabloids aside - apparently she was clean of drugs for about 2 years before her death and what killed her was alcohol not drugs, which she was free of for at least 2 years.
You can't undo the damage illegal substances do to the brain, no matter how long your of the stuff.

tommiasfc 15-03-2012 18:00
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978004)
I have to keep them to one liners so that brain addled fools can understand them;)
I thought it was all you could type before it was time to pop another pill

jaysay 15-03-2012 18:13
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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978012)
I thought it was all you could type before it was time to pop another pill
You are out of order you cretin:mad:

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 18:17
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I would not get stressed Jay, you cannot reason with those who have Nelson Mandela as their Main Dealer:eek:

tommiasfc 15-03-2012 18:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978020)
You are out of order you cretin:mad:
i found this out of order

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978004)
I have to keep them to one liners so that brain addled fools can understand them;)
Your being so condescending to people who arnt hard drug users when you wernt commenting it was turning into a decent disscusion with people asking questions and getting answers no name calling but as soon as the accy web mafia come back on its all name calling and not giving peoples opinions a thought because they are full of drugs.

You are a cretin

You were named by someone i work with when asked if i use accy web i said 'yes but theres some people on there if you dont agree with them you just get called and bullied if they did that in real life i bet they would be ashamed of themselves' and my colleague said was and i quote 'yes like that jaysay'

jaysay 15-03-2012 18:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 978022)
I would not get stressed Jay, you cannot reason with those who have Nelson Mandela as their Main Dealer:eek:
Na BG prats like that don't stress me out, it just shows what infantile morons they are, you really have to feel sorry for somebody who stoups so low

jaysay 15-03-2012 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978026)
i found this out of order



Your being so condescending to people who arnt hard drug users when you wernt commenting it was turning into a decent disscusion with people asking questions and getting answers no name calling but as soon as the accy web mafia come back on its all name calling and not giving peoples opinions a thought because they are full of drugs.

You are a cretin

You were named by someone i work with when asked if i use accy web i said 'yes but theres some people on there if you dont agree with them you just get called and bullied if they did that in real life i bet they would be ashamed of themselves' and my colleague said was and i quote 'yes like that jaysay'
The bit I find hard to believe is you actually work

tommiasfc 15-03-2012 18:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978031)
The bit I find hard to believe is you actually work

See there you go making assumptions across a keyboard i work hard have a good career pay a **** load in tax dont do drugs but i have an opinion which if its not the same as yours you have to try belittle me. If someone in the pub had a difference of opinion to you would you start just calling them names and speak to them like they are the lowest of the low or would you listen to them and discuss it. You are a pathetic keyboard warrior who gets his kicks from ganging up oer the internet

jaysay 15-03-2012 18:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978032)
See there you go making assumptions across a keyboard i work hard have a good career pay a **** load in tax dont do drugs but i have an opinion which if its not the same as yours you have to try belittle me. If someone in the pub had a difference of opinion to you would you start just calling them names and speak to them like they are the lowest of the low or would you listen to them and discuss it. You are a pathetic keyboard warrior who gets his kicks from ganging up oer the internet
Believe me I would say to your face exactly what I say on here, without any problem what so ever, I don'y need to hide behind a screen name

tommiasfc 15-03-2012 18:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978033)
Believe me I would say to your face exactly what I say on here, without any problem what so ever, I don'y need to hide behind a screen name

Not just to my face to everybodies i see it all the time someone says something you dont agree with and its like they are scum your an embarrassment to yourself sat there waiting for someone to bully. Why cant you have a decent disscsion on here.

and before you say it dont say 'cos of idiots like you' because i was perfectly nice up until now when posing questions and opinions but if i had a point i was ignored or abused for being an addict

kestrelx 15-03-2012 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 977985)
oh I don't know, I found it quite refreshing comedy, just for that however:

YouTube - Nelson Mandela Ecstasy advert - funny
I wonder what Mandela thinks about it?

I don't think it's that funny to be honest - is it laughing at Mandela?

jaysay 15-03-2012 18:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978036)
Not just to my face to everybodies i see it all the time someone says something you dont agree with and its like they are scum your an embarrassment to yourself sat there waiting for someone to bully. Why cant you have a decent disscsion on here.

and before you say it dont say 'cos of idiots like you' because i was perfectly nice up until now when posing questions and opinions but if i had a point i was ignored or abused for being an addict
Ya your rep count says so

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 18:53
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I would have thought he found the situation amusing.
It depends on your point of view, I find the idea that a great man such as Nelson Mandela would stoop to this is ridiculous. I do not believe it demeaning and as it was broadcasted on the BBC, the politically correct channel, they must have found it okay to broadcast.
It is similar to the U2 joke that was on the first series, which is closer to the truth than you think!
Of course if you want to take offence then I cannot help you.

kestrelx 15-03-2012 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978036)
Not just to my face to everybodies i see it all the time someone says something you dont agree with and its like they are scum your an embarrassment to yourself sat there waiting for someone to bully. Why cant you have a decent disscsion on here.

and before you say it dont say 'cos of idiots like you' because i was perfectly nice up until now when posing questions and opinions but if i had a point i was ignored or abused for being an addict
Jaysay has already stated he thinks there is no debate about legalising these drugs and that all people who take them are idiots! This is his view and I don't think any of us will change that view at his time of life! :rolleyes:

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 18:54
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Speaking of jokes about drugs:
Brass Eye 1997

YouTube - Brass Eye Drugs 1997 X1

jaysay 15-03-2012 18:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978044)
Jaysay has already stated he thinks there is no debate about legalising these drugs and that all people who take them are idiots! This is his view and I don't think any of us will change that view at his time of life! :rolleyes:
You wouldn't have change my view when I was 21, let alone now, stupidity is stupidity whenever it rears its head

kestrelx 15-03-2012 19:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 978043)
I would have thought he found the situation amusing.
It depends on your point of view, I find the idea that a great man such as Nelson Mandela would stoop to this is ridiculous. I do not believe it demeaning and as it was broadcasted on the BBC, the politically correct channel, they must have found it okay to broadcast.
It is similar to the U2 joke that was on the first series, which is closer to the truth than you think!
Of course if you want to take offence then I cannot help you.
I turned this show on briefly and there were loads of jokes about certain celebrities being gay - I thought it was rubbish! And from that point I've never watched it again.

I didn't see the U2 Joke!

I'm not offended but you were offended about my Savile post - isn't it the same issue! :confused:

kestrelx 15-03-2012 19:19
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978047)
You wouldn't have change my view when I was 21, let alone now, stupidity is stupidity whenever it rears its head
So are you calling Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Beach Boys stupid? Tea, coffee, alcohol, tobacco, chocolate are all drugs and all are used by people to make them "feel better!" I just watched a program about children having nearly all their teeth removed because of Sugar - which is a drug! and so on!

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 19:23
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978053)

I'm not offended but you were offended about my Savile post - isn't it the same issue! :confused:
Yet again I would disagree, Harry and Paul is a comedy show, you were insinuating Jimmy Saville was a child molester. Hardly the same thing:rolleyes:

tommiasfc 15-03-2012 19:45
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978041)
Ya your rep count says so
OH NO not my rep count grow up you tool do you get some sort of real buzz evertime you and your accy web mates bully someone off the forum

Less 15-03-2012 20:03
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978036)
Why cant you have a decent disscsion on here.
Perhaps because we all spend too much time on the internet?

I've heard from one recent thread on here that it rots your brain and is almost as addictive as cannabis!

So, that must be true there are even links about it.

tommiasfc 15-03-2012 20:07
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 978080)
Perhaps because we all spend too much time on the internet?
Probably the most true thing on accy web

kestrelx 15-03-2012 20:08
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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 978058)
Yet again I would disagree, Harry and Paul is a comedy show, you were insinuating Jimmy Saville was a child molester. Hardly the same thing:rolleyes:
Well I didn't find it funny two guys saying "such and such celebrity is gay!" (the said celebrities weren't gay) Which is one sketch they had!

A guy I knew as a kid in Accy used to sexually abuse his sister - now if I posted that and put his name people would be outraged! yet this guy (now deceased) did sexually abuse his sister - people can't take things like this. It happens a lot more than people think!

kestrelx 15-03-2012 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978082)
Probably the most true thing on accy web

Well said!!! :rolleyes:

Less 15-03-2012 20:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978085)
Well said!!! :rolleyes:
Don't feel too good about it, when I'd said, 'we' it was an inclusive, 'we', I didn't want you to feel left out!

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 20:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978084)
Well I didn't find it funny two guys saying "such and such celebrity is gay!" (the said celebrities weren't gay) Which is one sketch they had!

A guy I knew as a kid in Accy used to sexually abuse his sister - now if I posted that and put his name people would be outraged! yet this guy (now deceased) did sexually abuse his sister - people can't take things like this. It happens a lot more than people think!
To be honest, I did not find the sketch with the two old duffers in the gentlemans club discussing whether or not David Cameron was a 'queer'. But that is comedy, sometimes cutting very close and subversive.
Mel Brooks makes some great Jewish jokes and even funnier Nazi jokes, but to some they are very very offensive.
You did post links and insinuated that a celebrity, who had recently died was a peadophile.
The two are different things.
I get the distinct feeling you are carrying this on, because I tend to disagree with a lot of what you post. Well unfortunately I do, but then I am very opinionated and this is only a discussion. I have no desire to get personal, I am simply playing the game and not the player.
There is no personal bias against you. Though some kind soul took major offence to what I said....
I will not carry this on, as it serves no purpose:)

Boeing Guy 15-03-2012 20:49
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I missed out Funny... Silly me

kestrelx 15-03-2012 21:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 978089)
To be honest, I did not find the sketch with the two old duffers in the gentlemans club discussing whether or not David Cameron was a 'queer'. But that is comedy, sometimes cutting very close and subversive.
Mel Brooks makes some great Jewish jokes and even funnier Nazi jokes, but to some they are very very offensive.
You did post links and insinuated that a celebrity, who had recently died was a peadophile.
The two are different things.
I get the distinct feeling you are carrying this on, because I tend to disagree with a lot of what you post. Well unfortunately I do, but then I am very opinionated and this is only a discussion. I have no desire to get personal, I am simply playing the game and not the player.
There is no personal bias against you. Though some kind soul took major offence to what I said....
I will not carry this on, as it serves no purpose:)
Your getting Paranoid ;) I am not carrying it on for reasons you stated, I am not offended - I just didn't get the sense of humour about Nelson Mandela!

kestrelx 15-03-2012 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 978086)
Don't feel too good about it, when I'd said, 'we' it was an inclusive, 'we', I didn't want you to feel left out!
You, me, you auntie Fanny! It's doesn't matter!

jaysay 16-03-2012 09:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978056)
So are you calling Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Beach Boys stupid? Tea, coffee, alcohol, tobacco, chocolate are all drugs and all are used by people to make them "feel better!" I just watched a program about children having nearly all their teeth removed because of Sugar - which is a drug! and so on!
Ya I certainly am, for one Jimi would probably still be with us but for drugs, the rest of your post is now clutching at straws, you've obviously lost the argument, if you ever had one in the first place

jaysay 16-03-2012 09:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978065)
OH NO not my rep count grow up you tool do you get some sort of real buzz evertime you and your accy web mates bully someone off the forum
Well if you disappear you won't be missed, divvy's never are

jaysay 16-03-2012 09:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978101)
You, me, you auntie Fanny! It's doesn't matter!
No you don't matter

tommiasfc 16-03-2012 09:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978163)
Well if you disappear you won't be missed, divvy's never are
Ha you're so sad have a discussion stop name calling i think all the drugs you're taking are having some weired side effects

jaysay 16-03-2012 10:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978168)
Ha you're so sad have a discussion stop name calling i think all the drugs you're taking are having some weired side effects
Me thinks you are the weired side effect of drug over use, I can't have a conversation with an adulterated fool

Less 16-03-2012 10:17
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978169)
Me thinks you are the weired side effect of drug over use, I can't have a conversation with an adulterated fool
That's a bit harsh Jay, you don't know his wife is cheating on him!

tommiasfc 16-03-2012 11:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978169)
Me thinks you are the weired side effect of drug over use, I can't have a conversation with an adulterated fool
again I don't use drugs and again you single out me yet you can't have a discussion with anyone you just name call I was having a decent conversation with people check

All you can do is name call your an embarrassment to the older generation why should young people respect you when you act like this.

I'm notjust talking about this topic its most were you act like a bully

***Mr D*** 16-03-2012 11:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978005)
You can't undo the damage illegal substances do to the brain, no matter how long your of the stuff.
Same could be said for alcohol, tobacco, prescription medication ect.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978041)
Ya your rep count says so
Well we all know how that works dont we.:rolleyes:

Less 16-03-2012 17:05
Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 978184)
Same could be said for alcohol, tobacco, prescription medication ect.
Well, the thing is, it's about illegal drugs, we know there are problems with legal drugs, but why should those problems mean we make things worse by legalising the others?

jaysay 16-03-2012 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 978184)
Same could be said for alcohol, tobacco, prescription medication act.



Well we all know how that works dont we.:rolleyes:
Prescription meds are for a purpose, something I wish I didn't need, as for alcohol, I was always a drinker, but could take it or leave it, by drinker I mean beer. I gave up smoking 32 years ago the first time a doctor said I should cut down and smoke a lower tar brand, I quite and have never had one in my mouth since. The problem with smoking was when I was young everybody smoked, it was cool, the thing to do, it wasn't until 1962 that smoking was linked to cancer for the first time and cigarette advertising banned from TV screens in 1965.

jaysay 16-03-2012 17:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978174)
again I don't use drugs and again you single out me yet you can't have a discussion with anyone you just name call I was having a decent conversation with people check

All you can do is name call your an embarrassment to the older generation why should young people respect you when you act like this.

I'm notjust talking about this topic its most were you act like a bully
Didums:dummy:

kestrelx 16-03-2012 18:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978168)
Ha you're so sad have a discussion stop name calling i think all the drugs you're taking are having some weired side effects
You have good powers of observation! :rolleyes::D

kestrelx 16-03-2012 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978169)
Me thinks you are the weired side effect of drug over use, I can't have a conversation with an adulterated fool
He's already said that he doesn't take drugs! :jimbo:

tommiasfc 16-03-2012 18:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978237)
Didums:dummy:
Haha great comeback ooh wait it want a comeback because you don't have one because you no i'm right

jaysay 16-03-2012 18:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 978249)
Haha great comeback ooh wait it want a comeback because you don't have one because you no i'm right
You've never been right in your live, looser

jaysay 16-03-2012 18:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978246)
He's already said that he doesn't take drugs! :jimbo:
He Just can't remember

kestrelx 16-03-2012 18:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978254)
You've never been right in your live, looser
You don't know him so how can you say that! :confused:

jaysay 16-03-2012 18:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978256)
You don't know him so how can you say that! :confused:
Don't need to, they're all the same

katex 16-03-2012 18:22
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Tell me,what sort of 'buzz' does cannabis give you ? What is the come down like ? How long do the effects last ? Do you think you are fit to drive under the influence?

I know we are discussing cannabis and not fair to compare with alcohol, but lots of people are extremely belligerent after drinking (no names mentioned like.. :) I am,of course, still my sweel lil 'ol self when tanked). I understand it makes you fairly mellow and non aggresive.

annesingleton 16-03-2012 18:22
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Isn't this all a bit childish? You're supposed to be adults having a reasonable discussion and you resort to petty comments and name calling! Eight year olds would make more sense!

kestrelx 16-03-2012 18:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978258)
Don't need to, they're all the same
Who are all the same? People who smoke a bit of cannabis?:confused:

jaysay 16-03-2012 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978268)
Who are all the same? People who smoke a bit of cannabis?:confused:
People who take Illegal drugs of any sort

Less 16-03-2012 18:54
Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 978262)
Isn't this all a bit childish? You're supposed to be adults having a reasonable discussion and you resort to petty comments and name calling! Eight year olds would make more sense!
Join in or butt out, your choice, just don't try to be superior.

annesingleton 16-03-2012 19:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 978283)
Join in or butt out, your choice, just don't try to be superior.
Sorry just stating what I see, I'll butt out then because I don't want to get drawn into it.

Less 16-03-2012 19:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 978304)
Sorry just stating what I see, I'll butt out then because I don't want to get drawn into it.
Butting out eh?

I suspect you must have a hidden agender.

annesingleton 16-03-2012 19:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 978306)
Butting out eh?

I suspect you must have a hidden agender.
Why?

Less 16-03-2012 19:45
Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 978309)
Why?
Just a term you've used many times yourself, I wondered how you'd react.

annesingleton 16-03-2012 19:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 978312)
Just a term you've used many times yourself, I wondered how you'd react.
Ok, you've made me laugh! Serves me right!

kestrelx 16-03-2012 22:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 978262)
Isn't this all a bit childish? You're supposed to be adults having a reasonable discussion and you resort to petty comments and name calling! Eight year olds would make more sense!
That's an astute comment Anne - Jaysay is like an 8 year old! ;) There are a lot here who stoop to personal attacks as they lack in grey matter! :D

kestrelx 16-03-2012 23:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 978260)
Tell me,what sort of 'buzz' does cannabis give you ? What is the come down like ? How long do the effects last ? Do you think you are fit to drive under the influence?

I know we are discussing cannabis and not fair to compare with alcohol, but lots of people are extremely belligerent after drinking (no names mentioned like.. :) I am,of course, still my sweel lil 'ol self when tanked). I understand it makes you fairly mellow and non aggresive.
It depends how strong it is, before SKUNNK - cannabis was about 2 - 5 % THC content now it's about 15 - 20 % content. THC one of the main chemicals that causes the effect the other one is CBD!

Smoking Cannabis about 5% THC will make you feel mellow, relaxed, music/ TV and Film is more enjoyable, if people around are negative it may make you feel a bit paranoid! Can make you laugh a lot etc

jaysay 17-03-2012 08:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978388)
That's an astute comment Anne - Jaysay is like an 8 year old! ;) There are a lot here who stoop to personal attacks as they lack in grey matter! :D
Now when you've stopped slavering had your nose wiped and your bottom powdered and your nappy changed come back you'll feel much better;)

kestrelx 20-03-2012 09:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 978184)
Same could be said for alcohol, tobacco, prescription medication ect.



Well we all know how that works dont we.:rolleyes:
BBC Series - Waterloo Road propoganda story line against Cannabis - they show one kid smoking cannabis and then when he stops starts showing signs of mental illness! TOTALLY WRONG PROPAGANDA AND MISLEADING!

BBC Waterloo Road Goes Reefer Madness Crazy | CLEAR

jaysay 20-03-2012 10:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978986)
BBC Series - Waterloo Road propoganda story line against Cannabis - they show one kid smoking cannabis and then when he stops starts showing signs of mental illness! TOTALLY WRONG PROPAGANDA AND MISLEADING!

BBC Waterloo Road Goes Reefer Madness Crazy | CLEAR
But the right thing to do

Less 20-03-2012 14:37
Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 978986)
BBC Series - Waterloo Road propoganda story line against Cannabis - they show one kid smoking cannabis and then when he stops starts showing signs of mental illness! TOTALLY WRONG PROPAGANDA AND MISLEADING!

BBC Waterloo Road Goes Reefer Madness Crazy | CLEAR
So what are you trying to say?

Could it be that if allowed to continue with the drugs this illness would have been suppressed?
Or that like you soaps are not real?
Or that this lad was suffering withdrawel from a none addictive substance.

I do wish you could make yourself clear.

kestrelx 22-03-2012 23:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 979035)
So what are you trying to say?

Could it be that if allowed to continue with the drugs this illness would have been suppressed?
Or that like you soaps are not real?
Or that this lad was suffering withdrawel from a none addictive substance.

I do wish you could make yourself clear.

I have made it clear - I posted a link that explained it! That 1 guy who smoked dope - would not get shizophrrenia!!!

WELL AT LEAST THIS THREAD MADE OVER 20,000!!! :alright:

News today "Deaths due to Liver disease linked to alcohol abuse are up by a quarter..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...er-report.html

kestrelx 23-03-2012 12:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 978262)
Isn't this all a bit childish? You're supposed to be adults having a reasonable discussion and you resort to petty comments and name calling! Eight year olds would make more sense!
Sugar kills Millions of people every year - not instantly but over a period of time - yet that is LEGAL! :eek:

(Just Kidding, it’s 143)
By Nancy Appleton PhD & G.N. Jacobs
Excerpted from Suicide by Sugar
Used with permission
  1. Sugar can suppress your immune system.
  2. Sugar upsets the mineral relationships in the body.
  3. Sugar can cause juvenile delinquency in children.
  4. Sugar eaten during pregnancy and lactation can influence muscle force production in offspring, which can affect an individual’s ability to exercise.
  5. Sugar in soda, when consumed by children, results in the children drinking less milk.
  6. Sugar can elevate glucose and insulin responses and return them to fasting levels slower in oral contraceptive users.
  7. Sugar can increase reactive oxygen species (ROS), which can damage cells and tissues.
  8. Sugar can cause hyperactivity, anxiety, inability to concentrate and crankiness in children.
  9. Sugar can produce a significant rise in triglycerides.
10. Sugar reduces the body’s ability to defend against bacterial infection.
11. Sugar causes a decline in tissue elasticity and function – the more sugar you eat, the more elasticity and function you lose.
12. Sugar reduces high-density lipoproteins (HDL).
13. Sugar can lead to chromium deficiency.
14. Sugar can lead to ovarian cancer.
15. Sugar can increase fasting levels of glucose.
16. Sugar causes copper deficiency.
17. Sugar interferes with the body’s absorption of calcium and magnesium.
18. Sugar may make eyes more vulnerable to age-related macular degeneration.
19. Sugar raises the level of neurotransmitters: dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine.
20. Sugar can cause hypoglycemia.
21. Sugar can lead to an acidic digestive tract.
22. Sugar can cause a rapid rise of adrenaline levels in children.
23. Sugar is frequently malabsorbed in patients with functional bowel disease.
24. Sugar can cause premature aging.
25. Sugar can lead to alcoholism.
26. Sugar can cause tooth decay.
27. Sugar can lead to obesity.
28. Sugar increases the risk of Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis.
29. Sugar can cause gastric or duodenal ulcers.
30. Sugar can cause arthritis.
31. Sugar can cause learning disorders in school children.
32. Sugar assists the uncontrolled growth of Candida Albicans (yeast infections).
33. Sugar can cause gallstones.
34. Sugar can cause heart disease.
35. Sugar can cause appendicitis.
36. Sugar can cause hemorrhoids.
37. Sugar can cause varicose veins.
38. Sugar can lead to periodontal disease.
39. Sugar can contribute to osteoporosis.
40. Sugar contributes to saliva acidity.
41. Sugar can cause a decrease in insulin sensitivity.
42. Sugar can lower the amount of Vitamin E in the blood.
43. Sugar can decrease the amount of growth hormones in the body.
44. Sugar can increase cholesterol.
45. Sugar increases advanced glycation end products (AGEs), which form when sugar binds non-enzymatically to protein.
46. Sugar can interfere with the absorption of protein.
47. Sugar causes food allergies.
48. Sugar can contribute to diabetes.
49. Sugar can cause toxemia during pregnancy.
50. Sugar can lead to eczema in children.
51. Sugar can cause cardiovascular disease.
52. Sugar can impair the structure of DNA.
53. Sugar can change the structure of protein.
54. Sugar can make the skin wrinkle by changing the structure of collagen.
55. Sugar can cause cataracts.
56. Sugar can cause emphysema.
57. Sugar can cause atherosclerosis.
58. Sugar can promote an elevation of low-density lipoproteins (LDL).
59. Sugar can impair the physiological homeostasis of many systems in the body.
60. Sugar lowers enzymes ability to function.
61. Sugar intake is associated with the development of Parkinson’s disease.
62. Sugar can increase the size of the liver by making the liver cells divide.
63. Sugar can increase the amount of liver fat.
64. Sugar can increase kidney size and produce pathological changes in the kidney.
65. Sugar can damage the pancreas.
66. Sugar can increase the body’s fluid retention.
67. Sugar is the number one enemy of the bowel movement.
68. Sugar can cause myopia (nearsightedness).
69. Sugar can compromise the lining of the capillaries.
70. Sugar can make tendons more brittle.
71. Sugar can cause headaches, including migraines.
72. Sugar plays a role in pancreatic cancer in women.
73. Sugar can adversely affect children’s grades in school.
74. Sugar can cause depression.
75. Sugar increases the risk of gastric cancer.
76. Sugar can cause dyspepsia (indigestion).
77. Sugar can increase the risk of developing gout.
78. Sugar can increase the levels of glucose in the blood much higher than complex carbohydrates in a glucose tolerance test can.
79. Sugar reduces learning capacity.
80. Sugar can cause two blood proteins – albumin and lipoproteins – to function less effectively, which may reduce the body’s ability to handle fat and cholesterol.
81. Sugar can contribute to Alzheimer’s disease.
82. Sugar can cause platelet adhesiveness, which causes blood clots.
83. Sugar can cause hormonal imbalance – some hormones become underactive and others become overactive.
84. Sugar can lead to the formation of kidney stones.
85. Sugar can cause free radicals and oxidative stress.
86. Sugar can lead to biliary tract cancer.
87. Sugar increases the risk of pregnant adolescents delivering a small-for-gestational-age (SGA) infant.
88. Sugar can lead to a substantial decrease the in the length of pregnancy among adolescents.
89. Sugar slows food’s travel time through the gastrointestinal tract.
90. Sugar increases the concentration of bile acids in stool and bacterial enzymes in the colon, which can modify bile to produce cancer-causing compounds and colon cancer.
91. Sugar increases estradiol (the most potent form of naturally occurring estrogen) in men.
92. Sugar combines with and destroys phosphatase, a digestive enzyme, which makes digestion more difficult.
93. Sugar can be a risk factor for gallbladder cancer.
94. Sugar is an addictive substance.
95. Sugar can be intoxicating, similar to alcohol.
96. Sugar can aggravate premenstrual syndrome (PMS).
97. Sugar can decrease emotional stability.
98. Sugar promotes excessive food intake in obese people.
99. Sugar can worsen the symptoms of children with attention deficit disorder (ADD).

141 Reasons Sugar Ruins Your Health Nancy Appleton Books Health Blog

jaysay 23-03-2012 18:12
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I think you've got too much time on your hands:confused:

Gordon Booth 23-03-2012 18:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 979513)
Sugar kills Millions of people every year - not instantly but over a period of time - yet that is LEGAL! :eek:

99. Sugar can worsen the symptoms of children with attention deficit disorder (ADD).
kestrelx, you stopped at 99! I can't stand the excitement, come on, list the other 42.
You've obviously nothing better to do.

garinda 23-03-2012 18:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 979629)
kestrelx, you stopped at 99! I can't stand the excitement, come on, list the other 42.
You've obviously nothing better to do.
Probably had a bit of a sugar rush, and was taken off to Intensive Care, as a suspected overdose.

jaysay 23-03-2012 18:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 979631)
Probably had a bit of a sugar rush, and was taken off to Intensive Care, as a suspected overdose.
I'm thinking of an overdose off beans Rindi, or potatoes, and hell you have to keep your eye on them beetroots, they ARE lethal;)

annesingleton 24-03-2012 08:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 979618)
I think you've got too much time on your hands:confused:

I agree!

kestrelx 26-03-2012 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 979634)
I'm thinking of an overdose off beans Rindi, or potatoes, and hell you have to keep your eye on them beetroots, they ARE lethal;)

Your one of these people who can't see beyond your own nose!

You are completely ignoring the evidence - sugar effects a lot of people negatively over a period of time. For those who say Cannabis is bad - it is no worse than sugar! Look at all the OBESE kids many of who get diabetes and die early! Because of Sugar - or are you unable to comprehend new information these days:confused::hidewall:

21,000 hits now!

kestrelx 26-03-2012 13:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 979699)
I agree!
There comes a point with age where the majority don't think anything new but repeat the same belief patterns and are unable to take anything onboard that challanges those rigid patterns! Like you! :alright:

Margaret Pilkington 26-03-2012 13:48
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I can't believe you are still chewing on this old bone.

Neil 26-03-2012 14:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 980114)
I can't believe you are still chewing on this old bone.
I can't believe people are still replying :p:D

Margaret Pilkington 26-03-2012 17:20
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well, Neil...you did that too :)
And......my last post to this thread was 11 days ago......hence the 'Old bone' post.
It must be rancid by now.(the old bone)

Neil 26-03-2012 23:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 980141)
well, Neil...you did that too :)
And......my last post to this thread was 11 days ago......hence the 'Old bone' post.
It must be rancid by now.(the old bone)
You have made 41 posts in this nonsense thread, I have only made 13 - 14 now :D

Margaret Pilkington 27-03-2012 06:36
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so you went back and counted them all. 41 posts eh......in 80 pages. Not a lot when you look at it in perspective is it?(some of those posts were to answer questions posed).
You deserve a medal.

Less 27-03-2012 06:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 980252)
so you went back and counted them all. 41 posts eh......in 80 pages. Not a lot when you look at it in perspective is it?(some of those posts were to answer questions posed).
You deserve a medal.
Don't be too quick handing out medals.
When you're looking at new posts, there is a section marked replies, showing would you believe, the number of replies, (are you with me so far?).
Click on that, (or if you are part of AccyWeb's mafia, clique on that), and it gives you a break down of who has posted & how many posts in the thread.

All the useless information you could ever need contained in just one website, magic our Margaret!
:alright:

Margaret Pilkington 27-03-2012 09:18
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It's Ok Less. it was only a putty one anyway(no need for brasso).......but thanks for the info.It is good to know.
(and OK, he didn't have to go to the trouble of counting them all - he did have to look :))

Restless 31-03-2012 09:39
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kestrelx -- Great post about sugar !


The problem with drugs is that they are generally misunderstood by people that have never taken them,

I know a bit about drugs because obviously I have taken them. I have Smoked cannabis(and ate), Dropped LSD, boiled magic mushrooms and have taken speed. I have been around people at various parties where people have-- taken ketamine, cocaine, ecstasy.... list goes on a little I don't remember everything. I've seen people take legal highs too.

When I worked at time computers some pakistani guys from nelson was smoking crack. I never spoke to those guys again. I avoided them at all costs.

Drug users fall into several categories

#1 Drug user with morals.
#2 Drug user with no morals whatsoever
#3 Drug user who will take anything to get high (which both come from either 1) or 2) )


It is of my opinion that the bad things people do on drugs(or without them to get them) they would probably do these things anyway. Softer drugs don't people make people a bad person. Hard drugs(crack, heroin and speed(i also class speed as a hard drug) These drugs, well that's another story and I personally would never entertain anybody that takes them. Some people that started taking the harder drugs were probably younger and was not aware of how bad they are, or they are of #3 variety and got hooked

Cannabis does not make you into a bad person. Anybody that thinks it does is stupid and ignorant. If any drug should be legal its this one. It being legal does not mean you have to smoke it. The government wont push it because in most cases it opens minds.

The reason that I gave up taking drugs.

The people you have to buy them off are almost always of the #2 variety. I have found in most cases they are from broken homes or of poor upbringing, In some cases they are just mental cases. If you have a history of mental illness-- Taking amphetamines is probably not a good idea. To buy them you I often have to go to a house where there is around 10 people hanging out and of least 7/8 of them would be of them would be the #2 variety. They are nutters to say the least.

Amphetamines(Speed) is probably one of the worst drugs out there. I have seen this terrible drug do terrible damage. A former friend once cut his wrists while his baby was crawling on the floor in the kitchen, he started robbing houses and his friends. My theory is that you cannot trust a person who is hooked on speed. You see a drug user that is on speed. They will be skinny, pale, skanky and have hardly any teeth.

When I smoked cannabis I was convinced for a while that alcohol was evil.

Cannabis can take over your life a little. What I have found to be true with cannabis and depression is this-- If you already have a depressive nature or you are depressed to begin with then don't touch it. Its more about how you think and how you are as a person how the drug reacts to you. You often hear of people saying "I was paranoid"

Going back to drug users and how people throw them into the same boat with ignorant comments--

Imagine a group of youths in a field smoking cannabis and a heroin addict comes along and sits down and starts injecting. Do you think that the 'druggies' say to the heroin addict "come on dude your welcome with us mannnn" It is ignorant to think that the heroin addict would be welcome. Not a chance that person would be welcome. He would be kicked to the kerb faster than you can say the words smack head.

This is the problem with drugs. If you smoke cannabis you must also be of the same stock as a heroin addict.

I know that people get their ridiculous opinions from television. Only the other day, on a half day holiday from work I saw a tv program called 'doctors' and a woman was saying to a kid " you see that person who is on the street unconscious and covered in vomit-- they are smoking the cannabis " -- If you believe this then you are the most ignorant person in the world.

All I do now is drink alcohol. But I have seen people who drink alcohol do terrible things on a weekly basis.

The legal high that was just made illegal is even worse for being dangerous "bubble" is a very good reason why drugs should be illegal. Too many kids have died recently from taking this.

I am not advocating the use of drugs but addicts need to be seen as people that need help and not the scum of the earth(though some of them obviously are). Legalizing them may help a little but its counter productive I think, though It would be safer for these people as well. But then the dealers will always move on to some other criminal activity, because they will always be immoral with or without drugs.

I am not ashamed of my past with drugs but I am proud to say I don't take them any more and that I won't have bad things spoken about (some) of my past friends by people that are ignorant and ill-informed and who generally don't research into something before they blab on and make judgements.

So knowing what I do about drugs I would say that cannabis should be legalized. The other drugs I would have to disagree

Restless 31-03-2012 09:55
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Also people need to look into stats too for the drug related deaths(includes alcohol and prescription medication)

2011 The year in drug deaths and data fraud | Neurobonkers.com


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