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Yes, I remember that programme. I think he was asked what he would say to Mick Fleetwood if he was asked to rejoin the band. Green replied that he couldn't because his nails were too long. I suppose it never crossed his mind that he could get around that by cutting them!

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Well perhaps they just took too much, I know Brian Wilson's dad was a real bastard to him and stories such as battering him over the head with a piece of wood causing hearing loss! These things can have a bearing. Peter Green was forced into a mental hospital when he told a psychiatrist he heard voices and people who knew Peter said that was what did it not the LSD, he shouldn't have been locked up!

Comedian Bill Hicks smoked cannabis and was into magic mushrooms!

Bill Hicks - Mandatory Marijuana - YouTube

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I read once that when Floyd were recording "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" Peter Green walked in n no-one had seen him fer years as he'd become reclusive, The fact the song was written fer him, makes that really weird to me if true.

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He cut them eventually but had to relearn a lot of his guitar playing....still sounded good, though!!

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Don't yer mean that Syd Barrat walked in? :confused:

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Yes, but it was Syd Barrett, not Fleetwood Mac's Peter Green. Floyd's Roger Waters has said in interviews that this actually happened, and they did not recognise him immediately because he was fat and balding.

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on the Wish You Were Here album sleeve "Diamond's" dedicated to Barrett

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Anyone know about Vince Taylor and LSD...

VINCE TAYLOR brand new cadillac 1959 rehearsal version - YouTube

David Bowie said this is the guy he got the idea for Ziggy Stardust off! :theband:

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Yeh me brains as scrambled as yours.:hehetable

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In the documentary that Steve mentioned, Peter Green said it was LSD that messed him up. He was adamant about that.

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Never heard of Vince Taylor before but he looks a though he could have been a bit of a "bad boy" back in the 50's. Check out the gloves...!!

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Don't forget Ozzie Osbourne - he's had like 20 drugs in him at the same time and survived!

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I have not heard of him either. Just looked him up on Google and he seems to have been influential on a number of acts we have heard of, such as The Clash and David Bowie.

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Yeh swine have a Vince Taylor C.D. n that had me looking fer it n can't find the sodding thing.:eek: Van The Man was a Vince fan.;)

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Do you know he went mad on LSD - like you! :hesoff:

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Just about! But there have been many musicians who have died over the years because of drug use.

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Yep quite a few of em did, he died of cancer though in his early 50s.

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Are you sure you ain't got Alvin Stardust mixed up with Ziggy Stardust? :confused:

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He aint Mancie, hes correct on this.

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One of my musical heroes, Phil Lynott died of pnuemonia but indirectly it was the drugs. Although Phil was probably past his musical best by then I always wonder what music he would have created if he'd lived longer. Same goes for Hendrix and he died just as he was getting REALLY good!!

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I'll take your word for it..but he looks more like Alvin than Ziggy. :)

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That's what I think too. Just think of all the music we have lost over the years because of all these early deaths. I have revisited the Doors lately and would have loved to have heard a follow-up to one of their best albums, LA Woman, but sadly not to be because of the death of Jim Morrison.

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No Ziggy! The story goes, and this was on a TV program about Vince. He was very big in Europe than England particularly France and he was doing big gigs at this gig in Paris. He made loads of money and his manager gave him some money which he took back to London. It was around 66 when Acid was first becoming popular. Apparently Vince met someone who convinced him to spend the money on LSD and he did and he just spent all his time taking the stuff and lost it completely - latter joining a religious cult, I think it was the Process Church. David Bowie bumped into him preaching in a London Street!

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it could be argued that these artists had their talent way before drug use and only got access to drugs when their fame and change of lifestyle got them into a world where they were available.Who is to say they wouldnt have written songs just as successfull about something else that didnt come to them while stoned ?

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Ya call that surviving, glad I had the sense not to bother trying, than ending up like a babbling fool like Osbourne

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Most of the 27 died in connection with drug use, I mentioned the other week about Paul Kossoff, lead guitar with Free, the rendition of All Right Now at the Isle of wight festival, showed just how haggled Kossoff had become, although he did last till he was 35, but his demise was down to drug abuse

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No autopsy was carried out on Jim Morrison, he was found dead in the bath and was more of an alchoholic in the last years of his life as opposed to a drug addict.

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He did some gigs with Carlos Santana in last 10 years and is a shadow of himself - and doesn't really assert himself and Santana over shadows him - that is on You Tube. His legacy carried on though as he gave the Les paul he recorded "Albatross" on to Gary Moore, who used it on most of his hits.

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Missed that, shame would have loved to watch it.One of Vinces last jobs was a Baggage Handler at a Swiss airport.

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Yes they did but he did say that it was the medication in the psychiatric hospital that destroyed all his musical desire/ability. He got put back in the hospital, when he threatened a business associate with a shot gun, who owed him money. I think it was his brother who got him out of the hospital in the end.

Peter Green was disturbed by all the money he made over night and wanted to buy a load of food himself and take it to Africa and feed starving people - 10 years before Bob Geldof! :)

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It was a series shown about 12 years ago with all Rock n Roll stars featured each week, that was in it about his job with baggage!

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That is a scientific report based on research - not "knee jerk reaction" - the document says people who used some drugs in moderation!

Stoned seniors: Germany faces epidemic of hippy pensioners - Europe - World - The Independent

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Holy crack pipe.

Are the pot heads still zonked in here?

Contemplating the creativity of smack.

Bored.

Moved on.

Exciting, more dangerous threads for me.

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Professor Nutt is right - he is going off proper evidence not "knee jerk reactions". Where do you get your information that all drugs are killing people? From the Sun? Politicians who want to get voted in next time by being "tough" on drugs!

What about alcohol killed 25,000 to 200,000 people between 2000 - 04

Tobacco half a million dead between 2000 - 04

Paracetomol kills 150 people a year.

DrugScope | DRUG INFORMATION | How many people die from drugs?

:hehetable

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Problems related to alcohol in the UK cost 25 Billion pounds per year according to this...

25billion spent on alcohol abuse | Metro.co.uk

I heard on the TV today it cost £40Billion a year!??????

£25 - 40 billion to deal with LEGAL - ALCOHOL ABUSE AND RELATED PROBLEMS IN THE UK! Doesn't that make you think? :confused::eek:

Smoking a bit of cannabis or taking some ecstasy does not make people go out and trash their neighbourhoods and hurt each other and then get ill! So why are people so het up about it?

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The sale of alcohol is legal and is enjoyed by millions of people, drugs are illegal and make drug dealers into murderers and very rich men you don't give two ***** for anybody, including the numpties who sell the stuff for them

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I don't read the Sun.
And you're doing it again-quoting another website which grinds your particular axe!
Quote me an independent. unbiased source and you might get a bit more credibility!

Yes, it makes me think.

It makes me think that two wrongs don't make a right.

If alcohol IS a big problem then legalising drugs and compounding that problem rather than tackling it without the aid of drugs is like you, a no brainer.

:)

(Notice the smiley face, i'm not getting at you, honest! I'm so glad you are still on site giving us your wisdom).

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Dalhousie University, Canada(BBC News online)- smoking cannabis up to 3 hours before driving means you are twice as likely to cause a collision resulting in serious injury or death.
Puts having a cigarette in the shade, doesn't it?

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You can't drink alcohol on exstasy the two don't go together. :) Alcohol cancels it out. Also generally people who smoke cannabis aren't big drinkers either.

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So that's good news then!
All the people high on ecstacy and cannabis won't be drinking, all the people high on alcohol won't be taking ecstacy or cannabis!
But one way or another we'll all be happy.
What a comforting picture of the possible future you paint, assuming you get your way.

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Well Whitney Houston died yesterday, there's a good advert for anti drug use.

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In one news report I read that prescription drugs were found in the hotel room.

Poison is available legally too:rolleyes:

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Agreed Margaret, however she admitted to Cocaine use.
Drugs screwed her up, end of whether or not she obtained them legally or not is a matter of moot.
As I said a good advert for anti drug use.
Poor woman

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Again stupidity personified, I have a cupboard full of prescription drugs, and take them as prescribed, but my brain hasn't bean addled previously by crack cocaine and other illegal substances, you can kill yourself with over the counter medications if your stupid enough

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I found that Alcohol is more of a gateway to Ecstasy than anything else.

Legal or illegal, drugs can kill.

Its down to Use or Abuse.

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Mmm :confused: Well its accepted knowledge alcohol counteracts ecstasy and stops it's effects! :rolleyes:

The Great Alexander Shulgin Talks About MDMA-(Ecstasy) - YouTube

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Accepted by nutters like you, the guy has taken drugs all his life.:rolleyes:

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Give him a bell maybe you could take a trip together, if you can't see the dangers of drug use or abuse maybe your past usage has affected you more than you think:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Maybe WM I'd say its a racing cert;)

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Accepted Knowledge by who?

Alcohol doesn't stop the effects of E, you will find most people who take E will do so on a night out after having a few drinks, it defiantly does not stop its effects.

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Well according to todays Daily Mirror (don't always believe this as fact!) she was taking these prescription medications at time of her death...

Lorazepam - used for anxiety!

Valium - used for anxiety!

Xanax - for panic attacks!

Ibuprofen - pain killer!

Midol - Menstrual cramp treatment!

Amoxicillin - antibiotic for sore throat.

All prescription drugs + alchohol which is legal. :cool:

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The E they sell these days isn't MDMA a lot of it is mixed; Ketamine, Amphetamines, other crap. Pure MDMA is cancelled by alchohol - maybe not a few sips, but heavy drinking will null it!

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ha ha ha! I havn't taken drugs all my life mate - U nutter! ;)

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Whats your point ? I don't think anybody has differentiated between prescription(legal) drugs and recreational (illegal) drugs, they are all dangerous if misused, fact.Your original statement was that we should legalise illegal drugs, what would that acheive? You would still have drug addicts committing crime to fund their habit or are you suggesting that we the tax payer should fund fully,the habits of drug addicts? Also prescription drugs have been tested and are made to a standard recipe , not thrown together by some back street chemist or some old hippy. Drugs such as cocaine , heroin, crack etc ARE highly addictive and dangerous and cause many problems on a social level as does alcohol, i must admit,but often the two are abused together.Just because you think you have come through your own drug experiences without damage does not mean everyone will be so lucky. You need to get a grip and accept it will never happen.

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Some one can go out and buy 2 litres vodka, knock it back in one shot and that's legal!

Why can't I buy some cannabis as an adult and smoke or imbibe it in my flat legally? :confused::D

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That seems to sum it up perfectly Dave

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Cuz then there would be numpties wandering round like you all day long;)

Why would you want to?

According to yet another of your mind bent posts, you've never used the stuff!

Well, I have, canabliss, I was young then I became old,

I've already stated if it was legalised, I'd use it.

But, I wouldn't encourage anyone else to use it.

Now shut up before you make a fool of yourself,

Oh Dear, too late...

So live with it plonker.

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I regard all synthetic substances as toxic.
How fast you die, and what you die from, depends on whether you follow 'prescribed use' or 'Abuse'.

I know some people consider their life depends on them. I consider they have just chosen an alternative way to die, and more slowly. I respect their right to choose that option.

Ten years ago I was in daily continuous pain and took high strength prescription drugs to control it, and I got addicted.

I weaned myself off them, and began tackling the cause of my pain instead of masking it. A few detox procedures later I was pain free.

I know this won't work for everybody. I just wish to point out that to blindly accept that prescription drugs are the only solution to your problem is not in your best interests.

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AS i've said before Margaret, I don't really have much choice, when it comes to meds, I would love to be able to lay off some of the meds I'm on but I have never come across anything in alternative meds which can stem an full blown asthma attack, I too suffer from chronic back pain or did, but I've have had a medicated pain control plan for 2 years and using quite strong analgesics, which now make my life more bearable, so I think I'll carry on doing what I know works for me, but I supose it wouldn't do if we were all the same

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Quite a lot of pills there, I bet most where needed due to having abused hard drugs though.

Again I doubt it would null it, it may at best reduce the effect, most man made drugs have additional crap in them that's not good for the user, including prescription.

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Prefer a nice cup of tea myself...:)

First thing in the morning with a nice slice of toast smothered in butter -the real pleasures of life...

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There are those who would prefer a joint mobertol:rolleyes:

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So what if some people would prefer a joint.

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I had a lamb joint last Sunday for lunch. Delicious!

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Study: Ecstacy (MDMA) Does NOT Cause Drain Bamage! - YouTube

Fact is a litre of vodka, drank in one night, is probably more dangerous than 1 tablet of MDMA - street name Ecstasy! :hehetable It's just that the media has reported MDMA as an evil drug and the "morons" in society believe it! OK! :cool:

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Well your certainly one of the morons, but you've already proved that many times over in this thread alone;)

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Yum, tender young succulent meat!

I consider myself to be lucky - i have a good imagination, an unsullied brain and can reach ecstasy without resorting to substances of any kind.
Like a nice bit of beef myself;):D

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Your spot on with that mobertol, well that reaching ecstacy without resorting to substances of any kind bit:D

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Ha ha ha - the point you miss mate is that alcohol is a drug! I don't see why you think it's alright for drink to be legal and not other drugs - when research suggests drink is worse for you than some of the drugs that are currently illegal! :confused:

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So is smoking, but I gave up when I was told too, always remembering that when I was growing up smoking was cool, I was a seven night a week drinker too, Ale only and never became hooked, now I drink very little, we saw only too well what happens when you play with drugs, you blitz your life and glittering career and end up in a box at 48

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Yeah but you can come up with some great stuff in the process while on drugs
My example alice in wonderland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1B6l...yer_detailpage

I used to love this as a kid it was like watching a brand new film when someone mentioned it could have been writen on drugs

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Based on all evidence unearthed to date, unless you count the occasional use of an over-the counter homeopathic remedy, Lewis Carroll was not a drug user.

You a recreational drug user?

Can we look forward to your posts exhibiting great flights of imagination, touched with genius?

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I agree, Gary. The drug link with Alice In Wonderland book was due to the Jefferson Airplane song White Rabbit.

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It was ment to be taken with a pintch of salt the lighten up the thread. But if you do watch it with drugs in mind its kinda wierd.

Why does everything on this forum have to be an argument always sarcasum after every post

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Sarcasm? You walked right into it by posting the above statement.

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Jeez.

Whatever you're on, you don't seem a particularly happy little bunny.

Change your dealer.

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It was a joke if i was being serious of people on drugs writing things id have put videos of amy whinehouse or bob marley.

anyone remember this i found it quite shocking who was involved

Celebrity campaign backing drug legalisation was based on 'flawed' figures, says UN | Mail Online

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Its what im not on seious lack of coffee in my system after a hard day

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Pinch of salt.

Line of Charlie.

Chasing the dragon.

Dab of whizz.

Draw on the old crack pipe.

Pass.

Thanks all the same.

When you're happy with your life, it's so much better when you experience that life in actual reality.

Rather than masked by some artificially induced chemical haze.

;)

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actualy made me laugh

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Classic addict.

If you can't cope with the come downs, you really should quit.

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I saw the irony in it - didn't come across as pro drug-taking to me....!

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See?

A natural high.

Just don't get addicted to me.

It'll end in your misery and ruin.

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At the time he wrote that Opium and Cocaine were legal and used like we use tea. So perhaps he did it on the quiet? Maybe he kept it a secret and didn't do it often? You'll never really know :confused::D

Meanwhile anyone want to take part in this research into drug use?
INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR LEGAL AND ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE USE

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What are you on????

Why you think I take drugs??

Because I mention alice in wonderland and bob marley

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I took yer comment wi a pinch of salt, As fer sarcasm, if i was you i would notice all the little red squares i'd aquired, Then look in me mirror n ask meself that question! It aint that difficult to suss the answer.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I'd hazard a guess that all the people who've posted in this thread, who seem to lack any sense of humour, are those members who seem to be pro-illegal recreational drugs.

Perhaps I'm onto something.

There's something lacking in those people, and they have a desperate void that needs filling.

Bless their empty little souls.

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Yes opium used to be legal but just look at all the misery it's caused.

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A higher plane.

Look up from the gutter, and see it fly in the prettily coloured sky.

Air Crack.

Our diamond hostess today is Lucy.

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Not exactly true.
In fact I'm very much anti-drugs - just giving my opinion of that particular post.
The only thing I'm addicted to is ROCK n ROLL....\,,/

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Er...as stated.

There's no evidence that he took any drugs, other than over-the counter homeopathic remedies.

There's no diary entry, of him complaining of period pains.

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Well if you have to act all high and mighty on the internet you must be compensating for a low and meaningless real life.

I like the way you kind of acting like you no me. Just because I mentioned drugs in a drug thread. Get back to topic what do you think to this??? Celebrity campaign backing drug legalisation was based on 'flawed' figures, says UN | Mail Online

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What's not true?

It was only an observation.

No names mentioned.

Just a theory.

Others can decide.

If those who seem pro-recreational illegal drugs have something lacking.

Humour.

Intellect.

A life.

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Fact is "life is a drug!" what makes you go to sleep? Your brain produces a hormone/drug called Melatonin which makes you go sleepy - you wouldn't sleep with out it!

Melatonin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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How old are you because you seem very naive to drugs a lot of people use drugs from low life scumbags to lawyers police and many other people in high positions. Not just dumb people with no life

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ha ha ha! Louis Carroll was into taking photos of naked girls http://sites.google.com/site/photographyoflewiscarroll/

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Can you read?

Have you read this thread?

Did you understand what you read?

I've made it very clear.

I think people who take recreational drugs have something lacking in their lives.

I think they're stupid.

Address what's lacking.

Don't temporarily mask it, with chemicals.

It's like hoping a plaster might be some help.

Just after you've had your leg chopped off.

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What's that got to do with illegal drugs?