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Mick 27-12-2010 09:05

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 871432)
Whatever are you on? The post number no matter how many to a page, is the post number.:D

Oh, look this is post #197

Not quite
if one of the mods delete a post above yours then the post number will change accordingly

so if there are 4 posts and the second one gets deleted then post 3 and 4 will change to 2 and 3:D

Less 27-12-2010 09:38

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 871481)
Not quite
if one of the mods delete a post above yours then the post number will change accordingly

so if there are 4 posts and the second one gets deleted then post 3 and 4 will change to 2 and 3:D

Which I suspect is EXACTLY what a certain moderator did just to cock up my figure in the first place, but because I haven't proof of such a thing, please consider this to be a rumour.
:D

jaysay 27-12-2010 09:41

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 871484)
Which I suspect is EXACTLY what a certain moderator did just to cock up my figure in the first place, but because I haven't proof of such a thing, please consider this to be a rumour.
:D

Probably well founded;):D

Neil 27-12-2010 23:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 871485)
Probably well founded;):D

Would I do a thing like that? :D:D:D

kestrelx 28-12-2010 01:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 871472)
Was watching a program last night called The History of Rock and Roll, there was a guy from the Grateful Dead came out with a very good moment, think we succeeded in the sixties in getting the message across make love not war, but we certainly failed with drugs when you think we lost some great talent in the likes of Jimi Hendrix Janis Joplin Jim Morrison, Kieth Moon and Brian Jones, there was something fundamentally wrong with the thinking in those days on drugs

Well I don't think they did get the message across - make love not war! We've had about 2 American wars since early 1990! Also the example of Michael Jackson killed by prescription drugs and John Bonham (Led Zep) heart attack due to alcohol abuse, Bon Scott (ACDC) killed by alcohol poisoning! Also Jim Morrison was heavily into alcohol at the time of his death! Actor Heath Ledger, recent death from prescription drugs!

kestrelx 28-12-2010 01:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 871598)
Would I do a thing like that? :D:D:D

Hi Neil as a Moderator could you please explain how my Karma was wiped out by over 28 points in one go. Cheers. :D

Neil 28-12-2010 03:51

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 871604)
Hi Neil as a Moderator could you please explain how my Karma was wiped out by over 28 points in one go. Cheers. :D

The more karma a person has the more they can give or take

Boeing Guy 28-12-2010 07:11

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Kestrelx, in your list you missed out The OX, John Entwistle, of The Who. Heart Attack, due to Cocaine and Kurt Cobain, Gun shot wound.
Seeing there was no Autopsy performed by the French on Jim Morrison, I would be interested how you know he was into alcohol, instead of strong drugs.

Less 28-12-2010 09:18

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 871598)
Would I do a thing like that? :D:D:D

No names were mentioned, Guilty Conscience perhaps?
:)

DaveinGermany 28-12-2010 12:02

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With reference to Jim Morrison, despite the Doctor saying it was a "Heart failure", the suspicion has always been a overdose of some illegal Drug both Cocaine & Heroin have been mentioned in various recountings by different individuals. Still nothing was substantiated, so the Death of Morrison will always be an enigma.

But judging by his past behaviour it is more than likely that it was Drug related, if not the actual cause it was certainly instrumental in his demise.

***Mr D*** 28-12-2010 12:16

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 871342)
I just realised that Cashman is responsible for knocking my Karma down from 28 to zero - now that is very childish mate - not queensby rules -dis- honourable and so on!

Are you sure it was Cashman, there are many others that havent got the balls to put there name to the deduction of Karma.

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 871368)
Dont worry Kes Again its a way of trying to wind you up, some seem to think that if you have 1000+ Karma then it makes you a better person.
Even though its the certain "Click" just spreading it among themselves all the time. (In other words Its Pointless).:D

No names mentioned here, no need the Click Know who they are.;):D

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 871391)
Its Quite clear to me. All you are trying to do is find an alternative solution to an out of control Pandemic drug problem... You have been a member since 06 so your not a newcomer.?.. i will now wait and see what comments come back, re: "The click" word??

Well Erm Yes, an alternate solution to the one that doesnt work at the moment.

Member since 2006, wow how time flys.

Comments re the "Click" word, I have gone through this before, its always denined, but when you are no longer a newcommer, you will see exactly what I mean. ;)

Some people get so upset about it they even deduct Karma when you mention the word "Click" or cliques.:dummy2: :D.

RHFOY 28-12-2010 14:49

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 871660)
Are you sure it was Cashman, there are many others that havent got the balls to put there name to the deduction of Karma.



No names mentioned here, no need the Click Know who they are.;):D



Well Erm Yes, an alternate solution to the one that doesnt work at the moment.

Member since 2006, wow how time flys.

Comments re the "Click" word, I have gone through this before, its always denined, but when you are no longer a newcommer, you will see exactly what I mean. ;)

Some people get so upset about it they even deduct Karma when you mention the word "Click" or cliques.:dummy2: :D.

deducting karma seems petty/spitefull to me....

Wynonie Harris 28-12-2010 17:05

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 871660)
Comments re the "Click" word, I have gone through this before, its always denined, but when you are no longer a newcommer, you will see exactly what I mean. ;)

Some people get so upset about it they even deduct Karma when you mention the word "Click" or cliques.:dummy2: :D.

Who are the members of this clique?...Less?...Cashy?....Jaysay?...Garinda?.... Tealeaf?...funny how these and all regular members have had right old set-to's with each other on here in the past. Hardly the sign of a cosy little clique...more the sign of people who can argue, sometimes heatedly, about this, that and the other and then just move on and get on with their lives in the real world.

The clique accusation always crops up when someone, usually a newcomer but not always, realises that theirs is the minority viewpoint. It's basically a defence mechanism. :rolleyes:

Funny how we get other new members joining without all this fuss and bother. DaveinGermany, Gordon Booth, Alan Verrachia, JCB and many others have all joined in the last 12 months and are now busy agreeing, disagreeing, taking the mick and doing all the other things that Accywebbers do. Admittedly, JCB had a bit of a torrid initiation, but he stood his ground, hung around and sussed out the somewhat off-beat humour of the forum and now rubs along with the rest of us.

As for whining about karma, get real! The karma system is an integral part of Accyweb - you can add or subtract karma without revealing your identity and the more karma you have, the more you can add/subtract to someone else. All perfectly legitimate, as agreed by the creators of Accyweb. If you don't like it, take it up with them or ship on out!

Now, Mr D, kestrelx, RHFOY and all other clique/karma conspiracy theorists, repeat after me - "it's just words on a computer screen, it's not real life!" ;)

jaysay 28-12-2010 17:28

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871722)
- "it's just words on a computer screen, it's not real life!" ;)

:eek::eek::eek::eek:It isn't Wyn, oh:s_cry::s_cry::s_cry:I thought it was:D

***Mr D*** 28-12-2010 17:44

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 871694)
deducting karma seems petty/spitefull to me....

Some people get kicks from Drugs, others Karma.:D

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871722)
Who are the members of this clique?...Less?...Cashy?....Jaysay?...Garinda?.... Tealeaf?...funny how these and all regular members have had right old set-to's with each other on here in the past. Hardly the sign of a cosy little clique...more the sign of people who can argue, sometimes heatedly, about this, that and the other and then just move on and get on with their lives in the real world.

The clique accusation always crops up when someone, usually a newcomer but not always, realises that theirs is the minority viewpoint. It's basically a defence mechanism. :rolleyes:

Funny how we get other new members joining without all this fuss and bother. DaveinGermany, Gordon Booth, Alan Verrachia, JCB and many others have all joined in the last 12 months and are now busy agreeing, disagreeing, taking the mick and doing all the other things that Accywebbers do. Admittedly, JCB had a bit of a torrid initiation, but he stood his ground, hung around and sussed out the somewhat off-beat humour of the forum and now rubs along with the rest of us.

As for whining about karma, get real! The karma system is an integral part of Accyweb - you can add or subtract karma without revealing your identity and the more karma you have, the more you can add/subtract to someone else. All perfectly legitimate, as agreed by the creators of Accyweb. If you don't like it, take it up with them or ship on out!

Now, Mr D, kestrelx, RHFOY and all other clique/karma conspiracy theorists, repeat after me - "it's just words on a computer screen, it's not real life!" ;)

I have never got to the bottom of the clicks members, its like a Secret Society, bit like the illuminati.:D

I cant remember whining about Karma? I like the Karma Facility, its adds a little spice.;)

Gordon Booth 28-12-2010 17:50

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When I became a student I was put through an initiation which was viscious, sadistic and downright degrading- a few couldn't take it, the rest of us survived and were gradually accepted. The next year it was OUR turn!
Don't know about a 'clique' but you do put some new members through a 'baptism of fire' which perhaps not everyone can handle. I wonder if some people join and are frightened off from joining in or staying in-as they say on the films 'be gentle with me'.

jaysay 28-12-2010 17:54

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If there is a clique on Accyweb can I join please, I'm sure Cashy Less and Garinda will be interested too:D:D

Wynonie Harris 28-12-2010 17:54

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 871734)
Some people get kicks from Drugs, others Karma.:D



I have never got to the bottom of the clicks members, its like a Secret Society, bit like the illuminati.:D

I cant remember whining about Karma? I like the Karma Facility, its adds a little spice.;)

Maybe you can't get to the bottom of the clique, because it doesn't exist?

No, you weren't whinging about the karma system, that accolade must go your fellow clique theorists, kestrelx and RHFOY!

JCB 28-12-2010 18:03

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871722)
Who are the members of this clique?...Less?...Cashy?....Jaysay?...Garinda?.... Tealeaf?...funny how these and all regular members have had right old set-to's with each other on here in the past. Hardly the sign of a cosy little clique...more the sign of people who can argue, sometimes heatedly, about this, that and the other and then just move on and get on with their lives in the real world.

The clique accusation always crops up when someone, usually a newcomer but not always, realises that theirs is the minority viewpoint. It's basically a defence mechanism. :rolleyes:

Funny how we get other new members joining without all this fuss and bother. DaveinGermany, Gordon Booth, Alan Verrachia, JCB and many others have all joined in the last 12 months and are now busy agreeing, disagreeing, taking the mick and doing all the other things that Accywebbers do. Admittedly, JCB had a bit of a torrid initiation, but he stood his ground, hung around and sussed out the somewhat off-beat humour of the forum and now rubs along with the rest of us.

As for whining about karma, get real! The karma system is an integral part of Accyweb - you can add or subtract karma without revealing your identity and the more karma you have, the more you can add/subtract to someone else. All perfectly legitimate, as agreed by the creators of Accyweb. If you don't like it, take it up with them or ship on out!

Now, Mr D, kestrelx, RHFOY and all other clique/karma conspiracy theorists, repeat after me - "it's just words on a computer screen, it's not real life!" ;)

I can verify what you say from experience , as you have pointed out . :cool:

There is no clique .
Once I strongly thought there was .
Now I know how wrong I was .

jaysay 28-12-2010 18:05

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 871749)
I can verify what you say from experience , as you have pointed out . :cool:

There is no clique .
Once I strongly thought there was .
Now I know how wrong I was .

Welcome to our clique JCB:D:D:D

Wynonie Harris 28-12-2010 18:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 871750)
Welcome to our clique JCB:D:D:D

Ssssshhhh!!....;)

Less 28-12-2010 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 871750)
Welcome to our clique JCB:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871752)
Ssssshhhh!!....;)

to paraphrase old Groucho, " I wouldn't want to join a clique that would have me as a member!"

Neil 28-12-2010 18:52

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 871749)
There is no clique

I think there is, maybe more than one even :rolleyes::D

walkinman221 28-12-2010 19:17

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Things seem to click /clique with some folk quicker than others though thats the problem:rolleyes::D

DaveinGermany 28-12-2010 19:18

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 871734)
I have never got to the bottom of the clicks members, its like a Secret Society, bit like the illuminati.:D

Would that be this Illuminati ? Or perhaps a different one ? ;)

Columbia Encyclopedia: Illuminati

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Illuminati (ĭlū'mĭnā'tī, -nä') [Lat.,=enlightened], rationalistic society founded in Germany soon after 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, a professor at Ingolstadt, having close affinities with the Freemasons and seemingly organized on a Masonic plan. While briefly very popular among German rationalists, it had limited influence. The Roman Catholic Church, which Weishaupt left in his youth and rejoined before his death, condemned the Illuminati; in 1785 the Bavarian government dissolved the organization. It did not long survive. In Spain and Italy in the 15th and 16th cents. the term Illuminati, or Alumbrado, referred to persons claiming direct communion with the Holy Spirit, so asserting that outward forms of religious life are unnecessary. Their claims led to persecution by the Inquisition. Other groups using the name have included the Rosicrucians, and certain followers of Jakob Boehme and Emmanuel Swedenborg.



Read more: illuminati: Definition from Answers.com

DaveinGermany 28-12-2010 19:21

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871773)
Things seem to click /clique with some folk quicker than others though thats the problem:rolleyes::D

But isn't that the same in all walks of life "Outside in the real World" Some people socialise & integrate better just a fact of life really. And to do so some use Drugs (As that's what the threads about isn't it ?) some legal others not, it all comes down to acceptance.:rolleyes:

walkinman221 28-12-2010 19:23

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 871775)
Would that be this Illuminati ? Or perhaps a different one ? ;)

Columbia Encyclopedia: Illuminati

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Home > Library > Miscellaneous > Columbia Encyclopedia
Illuminati (ĭlū'mĭnā'tī, -nä') [Lat.,=enlightened], rationalistic society founded in Germany soon after 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, a professor at Ingolstadt, having close affinities with the Freemasons and seemingly organized on a Masonic plan. While briefly very popular among German rationalists, it had limited influence. The Roman Catholic Church, which Weishaupt left in his youth and rejoined before his death, condemned the Illuminati; in 1785 the Bavarian government dissolved the organization. It did not long survive. In Spain and Italy in the 15th and 16th cents. the term Illuminati, or Alumbrado, referred to persons claiming direct communion with the Holy Spirit, so asserting that outward forms of religious life are unnecessary. Their claims led to persecution by the Inquisition. Other groups using the name have included the Rosicrucians, and certain followers of Jakob Boehme and Emmanuel Swedenborg.



Read more: illuminati: Definition from Answers.com

Oh my god its a papist plot now! Nobody expects the inquistion!!!!! I didnt know Dan brown was a member on accy web:D

walkinman221 28-12-2010 19:25

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 871777)
But isn't that the same in all walks of life "Outside in the real World" Some people socialise & integrate better just a fact of life really. And to do so some use Drugs (As that's what the threads about isn't it ?) some legal others not, it all comes down to acceptance.:rolleyes:

You mean this is not the real world?:D

DaveinGermany 28-12-2010 19:25

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871780)
Oh my god its a papist plot now! Nobody expects the inquistion!!!!! I didnt know Dan brown was a member on accy web:D

He isn't, just looks in now & then as a guest ! :D And as to your above comment, to some it seems that way !

walkinman221 28-12-2010 19:27

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 871782)
He isn't, just looks in now & then as a guest ! :D

Thank god for that .I think he thought he might find some angels and demons on here :D

Gordon Booth 28-12-2010 19:32

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What have I got involved in? I'm getting out of here, I don't want to be in a Dan Brown book!
I need a drink(that's just to keep us on thread).

walkinman221 28-12-2010 19:35

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 871787)
What have I got involved in? I'm getting out of here, I don't want to be in a Dan Brown book!
I need a drink(that's just to keep us on thread).

Its the clique thing, its made us waver from our true course sorry.:)

DaveinGermany 28-12-2010 19:40

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871783)
I think he thought he might find some angels and demons on here :D

It appears some folk are carrying their Demons still as shown by some of the posts on here.(Neatly brought round ;)) As I stated elsewhere, the Drugs are a personal choice, but they have far reaching & oft damaging consequences & although the user may not think they are causing themselves "Harm" because "They can handle it", this is usually not the case.

walkinman221 28-12-2010 19:53

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 871792)
It appears some folk are carrying their Demons still as shown by some of the posts on here.(Neatly brought round ;)) As I stated elsewhere, the Drugs are a personal choice, but they have far reaching & oft damaging consequences & although the user may not think they are causing themselves "Harm" because "They can handle it", this is usually not the case.

I agree it seems that by the time people realise they have a problem its already to late the damage is done .Legal or illegal drugs ruin lives of the addicts ,their families , and those who may be affected by the pursuit of funds for said drugs.Making them legal would still not alter the fact money is needed to fund a drug habit and addicts will get the money by ANY means they can even if its to buy legal drugs.:(

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:10

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871742)
Maybe you can't get to the bottom of the clique, because it doesn't exist?

No, you weren't whinging about the karma system, that accolade must go your fellow clique theorists, kestrelx and RHFOY!

yes and many many more thought the same.!!! Then realised it was? and dissapeared...? or like me, stayed and decided it wasnt a closed shop !! jcb did the same to mention just one:).. my post was about karma and not a c----.

walkinman221 28-12-2010 20:11

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Here we go again::D

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:16

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871722)
Who are the members of this clique?...Less?...Cashy?....Jaysay?...Garinda?.... Tealeaf?...funny how these and all regular members have had right old set-to's with each other on here in the past. Hardly the sign of a cosy little clique...more the sign of people who can argue, sometimes heatedly, about this, that and the other and then just move on and get on with their lives in the real world.

The clique accusation always crops up when someone, usually a newcomer but not always, realises that theirs is the minority viewpoint. It's basically a defence mechanism. :rolleyes:

Funny how we get other new members joining without all this fuss and bother. DaveinGermany, Gordon Booth, Alan Verrachia, JCB and many others have all joined in the last 12 months and are now busy agreeing, disagreeing, taking the mick and doing all the other things that Accywebbers do. Admittedly, JCB had a bit of a torrid initiation, but he stood his ground, hung around and sussed out the somewhat off-beat humour of the forum and now rubs along with the rest of us.

As for whining about karma, get real! The karma system is an integral part of Accyweb - you can add or subtract karma without revealing your identity and the more karma you have, the more you can add/subtract to someone else. All perfectly legitimate, as agreed by the creators of Accyweb. If you don't like it, take it up with them or ship on out!

Now, Mr D, kestrelx, RHFOY and all other clique/karma conspiracy theorists, repeat after me - "it's just words on a computer screen, it's not real life!" ;)

if its not real life, we just needed one sentence to tell us, rather than an episode. plus its our opinion,so why dont you explain in a nice way like some have,rather than trying to win brownie points???

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:21

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871806)
Here we go again::D

read the post again. but this time put your half full head on, you just keep loading the gun !!!

walkinman221 28-12-2010 20:25

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I, you might shoot yourself in the foot if your not careful ,mind you if you do that it will be a bullet through the head because its usually in your mouth.;):)

Wynonie Harris 28-12-2010 20:25

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 871807)
if its not real life, we just needed one sentence to tell us, rather than an episode. plus its our opinion,so why dont you explain in a nice way like some have,rather than trying to win brownie points???

You need to be told it's not real life? Oh dear, oh dear...and that was me being nice. If I was much soddin' nicer I'd be going round to vicarage tea parties instead of posting on Accyweb!

Incidentally, who am I trying to win brownie points from? Oh yeah, I forgot, the other members of the clique! :D

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:30

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871809)
I, you might shoot yourself in the foot if your not careful ,mind you if you do that it will be a bullet through the head because its usually in your mouth.;):)

i can taste your anger from here... :) calm down fellow clicker:)

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:32

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871810)
You need to be told it's not real life? Oh dear, oh dear...and that was me being nice. If I was much soddin' nicer I'd be going round to vicarage tea parties instead of posting on Accyweb!

Incidentally, who am I trying to win brownie points from? Oh yeah, I forgot, the other members of the clique! :D

thats it. good honest banter:)

DaveinGermany 28-12-2010 20:34

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 871805)
yes and many many more thought the same.!!! Then realised it was? and dissapeared...? or like me, stayed and decided it wasnt a closed shop !! jcb did the same to mention just one:).. my post was about karma and not a c----.

Mate, just slow down a little, look at what you've written, then place your thoughts out logically, I'm struggling a bit as you appear to be contradicting yourself, take it nice & easy, re-read then post (I've mentioned it before Rob :)).

walkinman221 28-12-2010 20:39

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Me angry! i am not the one who has been banging on about a clique for the past millenia.I am also a newcomer to accyweb but i have found if you talk some sense now and again it helps, and people on here either agree or disagree with you that my friend is how life goes.You cant be right all of the time, that is a fact! But as the old saying goes "you cant put owt in a full bucket".:p

Wynonie Harris 28-12-2010 20:40

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 871814)
thats it. good honest banter:)

Look, it's Accyweb, it's not a ladies sewing circle. we argue, we fall out, we take the mick, we're sarcastic, in fact, we're a typical bunch of Brits. Also, if someone does go too far by being too hurtful or personal, the mods are soon down on 'em like a ton of bricks. And I would also point out that Accywebbers can also be very helpful and supportive when you need 'em!

If I'd thrown my toys out of my pram everytime someone was sarcastic towards me or called me a plonker (sometimes with good reason!), I'd have flounced off from here years ago!

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:42

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 871815)
Mate, just slow down a little, look at what you've written, then place your thoughts out logically, I'm struggling a bit as you appear to be contradicting yourself, take it nice & easy, re-read then post (I've mentioned it before Rob :)).

no prob-, i put one post in re karma, then the click debate opened again, so i read the posts again and still cant see it... the more candid you are the bigger the risk is of being an hypocrite:)

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:45

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871817)
Me angry! i am not the one who has been banging on about a clique for the past millenia.I am also a newcomer to accyweb but i have found if you talk some sense now and again it helps, and people on here either agree or disagree with you that my friend is how life goes.You cant be right all of the time, that is a fact! But as the old saying goes "you cant put owt in a full bucket".:p

yes your right!!!!.. were did i mention that c word in my last post? i was on about karma:)

Wynonie Harris 28-12-2010 20:46

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 871817)
Me angry! i am not the one who has been banging on about a clique for the past millenia.I am also a newcomer to accyweb but i have found if you talk some sense now and again it helps, and people on here either agree or disagree with you that my friend is how life goes.You cant be right all of the time, that is a fact! But as the old saying goes "you cant put owt in a full bucket".:p

Sorry, forgot to mention, walkinman, you're one of our more successful inductees. Welcome to the clique...ooops! :eek:

RHFOY 28-12-2010 20:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 871822)
Sorry, forgot to mention, walkinman, you're one of our more successful inductees. Welcome to the clique...ooops! :eek:

Will i be getting an invite????:):):)

walkinman221 28-12-2010 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 871821)
yes your right!!!!.. were did i mention that c word in my last post? i was on about karma:)

"you cant put owt in a full bucket".:p

jaysay 30-12-2010 10:11

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Fears over new legal party drugs that are 'as dangerous as cocaine' | Mail Online
If legal drugs can do this to young people, we don't need to add to the problem legalising illegal ones:(

***Mr D*** 30-12-2010 12:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 872054)
Fears over new legal party drugs that are 'as dangerous as cocaine' | Mail Online
If legal drugs can do this to young people, we don't need to add to the problem legalising illegal ones:(

This is what I was mentioning earlier in the thred, these are available within 2 mins from Accrington Centre.

I know I would sooner my children Smoke Weed than take any of this legal stuff.

I Love this quote from the Mail.
'We must however put more responsibility on parents to know what their children are up to and penalise them too to get messages home.'

Fines Perhapse.:rolleyes: What a load of rubbish.

Less 30-12-2010 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 872080)
This is what I was mentioning earlier in the thred, these are available within 2 mins from Accrington Centre.

I know I would sooner my children Smoke Weed than take any of this legal stuff.

I Love this quote from the Mail.
'We must however put more responsibility on parents to know what their children are up to and penalise them too to get messages home.'

Fines Perhapse.:rolleyes: What a load of rubbish.

I agree with the statement that comes after the smiley!

DaveinGermany 06-01-2011 17:16

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Cannabis (sativa) Hemp is the type grown for industrial use, the type your after is Cannabis (Indica) Which on the other hand is not as versatile & really has only one specific application. ;)

Neil 10-01-2011 09:08

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Please can we keep this thread on topic or it will have to be closed.

***Mr D*** 28-01-2011 18:36

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DId anyone see the program on BBC3 lastnight?

Cannabis - Whats the harm.

BBC - BBC Three Programmes - Cannabis: What's the Harm?

Quite a intresting watch.

garinda 28-01-2011 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 878698)
DId anyone see the program on BBC3 lastnight?

Cannabis - Whats the harm.

BBC - BBC Three Programmes - Cannabis: What's the Harm?

Quite a intresting watch.

Yes, it was interesting.

Especially those interviewed in various U.S. states who were legally prescribed it medically. In most cases for made up ailments, they admitted.

Next week looks interesting too.

Featuring those who say their lives have been harmed by it.

jaysay 29-01-2011 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 878705)
Yes, it was interesting.

Especially those interviewed in various U.S. states who were legally prescribed it medically. In most cases for made up ailments, they admitted.

Next week looks interesting too.

Featuring those who say their lives have been harmed by it.

I've a feeling Mr D will be busy next week G:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 29-01-2011 12:06

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Aye sat & watched it but had a bit of a difficult time of comprehending some of those interviewed & their attitudes. As to the youngster of 14 & his paranoia, so this is modern Britain & the modern way is it ?

Well you're welcome to it, it holds no appeal for me !

jaysay 29-01-2011 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 878923)
Aye sat & watched it but had a bit of a difficult time of comprehending some of those interviewed & their attitudes. As to the youngster of 14 & his paranoia, so this is modern Britain & the modern way is it ?

Well you're welcome to it, it holds no appeal for me !

Don't let it get you down Dave its only a conspiracy mate:rolleyes:;)

***Mr D*** 29-01-2011 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 878705)
Yes, it was interesting.

Especially those interviewed in various U.S. states who were legally prescribed it medically. In most cases for made up ailments, they admitted.

Next week looks interesting too.

Featuring those who say their lives have been harmed by it.

As long as them who's "Lives" have been harmed arnt 14 year old kids.:rolleyes:

I felt for the family with the son with ME.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 878894)
I've a feeling Mr D will be busy next week G:rolleyes:

Care to explain?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 878937)
Don't let it get you down Dave its only a conspiracy mate:rolleyes:;)

Whats the conspiracy?

Less 29-01-2011 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 878923)
Aye sat & watched it but had a bit of a difficult time of comprehending some of those interviewed & their attitudes. As to the youngster of 14 & his paranoia, so this is modern Britain & the modern way is it ?

Well you're welcome to it, it holds no appeal for me !

The lad is a forward thinker, get myself on the list before I legally have to have a medical, after all, he's probably from a background that can't afford University anymore.

garinda 29-01-2011 17:03

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You do get the feeling that the real reason most people use it, isn't for medical reasons.

Well unless not wanting to cope with the realities of the world has been classified as a disease.

:rolleyes:


YouTube - Afroman - Because I Got High

jaysay 30-01-2011 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 878967)
As long as them who's "Lives" have been harmed arnt 14 year old kids.:rolleyes:

I felt for the family with the son with ME.



Care to explain?



Whats the conspiracy?

Ya would'n't think you were interested in things on the negative side of smocking pot:rolleyes:

***Mr D*** 06-05-2011 18:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 879142)
Ya would'n't think you were interested in things on the negative side of smocking pot:rolleyes:

I will listen to all sides of any debate.

As long as its not biast and the Positive sides are given also or at least the true dangers.

It would be very intersting if someone who had no idea about cannabis and alchol to be given TRUE facts and then asked which one they think is illegal.;)

jaysay 06-05-2011 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 904052)
I will listen to all sides of any debate.

As long as its not bias and the Positive sides are given also or at least the true dangers.

It would be very interesting if someone who had no idea about cannabis and alcohol to be given TRUE facts and then asked which one they think is illegal.;)

What I've never been able to understand is why people want to take any substance just for a cheap thrill, its bad enough when you have to take prescribed drugs just to keep you alive, never mind unnecessarily damaging it with weird and wonderful potions just for kicks, its just totally beyond me, especially when we quite often see the devastating effects it has on families

***Mr D*** 07-05-2011 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904053)
What I've never been able to understand is why people want to take any substance just for a cheap thrill, its bad enough when you have to take prescribed drugs just to keep you alive, never mind unnecessarily damaging it with weird and wonderful potions just for kicks, its just totally beyond me, especially when we quite often see the devastating effects it has on families

True and Alchol is Legal.;)

jaysay 07-05-2011 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 904204)
True and Alchol is Legal.;)

I don't drink:thefinger

***Mr D*** 07-05-2011 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904228)
I don't drink:thefinger

Good for you.:alright:
Not even water, coffee, tea, juice, milk.:p

MargaretR 07-05-2011 15:23

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So the wine Jaysay mentions sometimes is just a mouthwash - sipped but not swallowed;)

cashman 07-05-2011 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 904317)
So the wine Jaysay mentions sometimes is just a mouthwash - sipped but not swallowed;)

How long back? tis a while since hes had a slurp.;)

MargaretR 07-05-2011 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 904324)
How long back? tis a while since hes had a slurp.;)

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post870704
post#158-
"I don't drink at all these days, except a bottle of wine at weekends, I do have a case of larger in but I've probably had the odd can, I'm just not a home boozer"

The communion wine he takes doesn't count either:rolleyes:

jaysay 07-05-2011 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 904317)
So the wine Jaysay mentions sometimes is just a mouthwash - sipped but not swallowed;)

Thats not drink it bloody pop:D

jaysay 07-05-2011 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 904336)
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post870704
post#158-
"I don't drink at all these days, except a bottle of wine at weekends, I do have a case of larger in but I've probably had the odd can, I'm just not a home boozer"

The communion wine he takes doesn't count either:rolleyes:

That was 6 months ago and we don't get communion wine Margaret, well not when they come to your home, in fact I've never had communion wine in my life, except when I was an alterboy:D

***Mr D*** 10-05-2011 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904228)
I don't drink:thefinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 904336)
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post870704
post#158-
"I don't drink at all these days, except a bottle of wine at weekends, I do have a case of larger in but I've probably had the odd can, I'm just not a home boozer"

The communion wine he takes doesn't count either:rolleyes:

Busted.:D:D:D:D:D:D

jaysay 10-05-2011 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 905165)
Busted.:D:D:D:D:D:D

Bollocks, When at one time you were a 10 pint a night sort of a bloke probably more at weekends A glass of wine with sunday lunch at even a wet:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger

***Mr D*** 10-05-2011 18:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 905166)
Bollocks, When at one time you were a 10 pint a night sort of a bloke probably more at weekends A glass of wine with sunday lunch at even a wet:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger

Where you an alcoholic?

How long did you sup 70+ Pints a week for?

jaysay 10-05-2011 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 905169)
Where you an alcoholic?

How long did you sup 70+ Pints a week for?

Very few alcoholics become so from drinking beer. Quiet a while, I was a big believer in work hard play hard, and I was good at both

***Mr D*** 10-05-2011 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 905170)
Very few alcoholics become so from drinking beer. Quiet a while, I was a big believer in work hard play hard, and I was good at both

How do you know this info?

I also believe if you work hard then you should be allowed to poision yourself how you feel as long as it doesnt affect/harm others.

cashman 10-05-2011 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904349)
That was 6 months ago and we don't get communion wine Margaret, well not when they come to your home, in fact I've never had communion wine in my life, except when I was an alterboy:D

now come on,what would n heathen know about communion wine?:D:D:D:D:D:D

jaysay 11-05-2011 08:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 905188)
now come on,what would n heathen know about communion wine?:D:D:D:D:D:D

Hey you, I'll have ya know I was one of Ken Hargreaves early recruits to that cause. Mind you I did return the compliment when I got him involved with politics a few years latter:D:D:D:D and I was a good boy, once!!!!!!!!!!:eek::D

jaysay 11-05-2011 09:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 905175)
How do you know this info?

I also believe if you work hard then you should be allowed to poision yourself how you feel as long as it doesnt affect/harm others.

How do I know, because I have never come accross an alcholic who drank only beer, And I've been around the block a few times

Ya but drug addicts don't work hard do they, and before you go off on one people have more chance of becoming addicts using so-called "Soft" drugs than people drinking beer do of becoming alcoholics

***Mr D*** 11-05-2011 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 905318)
How do I know, because I have never come accross an alcholic who drank only beer, And I've been around the block a few times

Ya but drug addicts don't work hard do they, and before you go off on one people have more chance of becoming addicts using so-called "Soft" drugs than people drinking beer do of becoming alcoholics

Total Rubbish. Where do you get this information from.

Boeing Guy 11-05-2011 14:05

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Why has this thread turned into personal attacks. Just because someone does not agree with you, you do not need to resort to character assassination.
I could not agree more with Jay, have seen the effects of hard drugs on friends and there is a good reason why it is illegal.
To be fair I got hammered on the local rocket fuel here in khazakstan last night and have no after effects.
Let's play the game and not the player

cashman 11-05-2011 14:08

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probably cos some people never think their wrong.

***Mr D*** 11-05-2011 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 905380)
Why has this thread turned into personal attacks. Just because someone does not agree with you, you do not need to resort to character assassination.
I could not agree more with Jay, have seen the effects of hard drugs on friends and there is a good reason why it is illegal.
To be fair I got hammered on the local rocket fuel here in khazakstan last night and have no after effects.
Let's play the game and not the player

Personal Attacks, Character Assassination?

I presume this is aimed at me? if so can you explain where the above has taken place?

We where discussing Soft Drugs (Cannabis)/ Vs Alcohol and IMO the chances of becoming a Hard Drug Addict or Alcoholic are about the same its down to the individual.

My total rubbish statement was aimed at the fact Jaysays comment that
"How do I know because I have never come accross an alcholic who drank only beer" (IMO 10 pints of beer a day every day is Alcoholism/Alcoholic).

Also the Comment -"Ya but drug addicts don't work hard do they" I bet the City Boys on Good money and celebs ect, are sniffing Coke left right & centre.

I have also seen the effects of Alcohol on friends and there is a good reason why it is legal.;)

And BG I always play the game.:D

jaysay 11-05-2011 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 905369)
Total Rubbish. Where do you get this information from.

University pal, the University of life, somewhere you seem to have been nowhere near

Boeing Guy 12-05-2011 04:54

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For the record I was not referring to any one person.
If you read through the last few pages it seem like there has been
some hangbags at Dawn.
That's not exactly cricket

jaysay 12-05-2011 08:52

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YouTube - HOLE IN MY SHOE (1967) by Traffic

Think this sums up Mr D exactly;)

***Mr D*** 12-05-2011 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 905572)
For the record I was not referring to any one person.
If you read through the last few pages it seem like there has been
some hangbags at Dawn.
That's not exactly cricket

Read most of the replies to my posts alot dont play cricket.;)

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2011 13:28

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Any substance is dangerous if used in the wrong way......even water......you can die from water intoxication, though it isn't common.
I am from a nursing background and regularly saw young people who had smoked cannabis, suffering from mental illness.......yes I also saw folk who had misused alcohol and had liver disease.......and I'm not being 'fly' when I say this....you can get a liver transplant(OK, it isn't the easiest thing in the world, and in my opinion, it shouldn't happen if the disease is alcohol induced)......this type of mental illness can only be managed.


Ask me if I would use cannabis for recreational purposes and the answer would be 'absolutely not'.......I drink alcohol very rarely too.

it is,(again, my opinion only) people with sad lives and poor imaginations who need to rely on recreational drugs to get their 'highs' in life.

jaysay 12-05-2011 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 905663)
Any substance is dangerous if used in the wrong way......even water......you can die from water intoxication, though it isn't common.
I am from a nursing background and regularly saw young people who had smoked cannabis, suffering from mental illness.......yes I also saw folk who had misused alcohol and had liver disease.......and I'm not being 'fly' when I say this....you can get a liver transplant(OK, it isn't the easiest thing in the world, and in my opinion, it shouldn't happen if the disease is alcohol induced)......this type of mental illness can only be managed.


Ask me if I would use cannabis for recreational purposes and the answer would be 'absolutely not'.......I drink alcohol very rarely too.

it is,(again, my opinion only) people with sad lives and poor imaginations who need to rely on recreational drugs to get their 'highs' in life.

Think your last statement says it all Margaret

***Mr D*** 14-05-2011 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 905663)
Any substance is dangerous if used in the wrong way......even water......you can die from water intoxication, though it isn't common.
I am from a nursing background and regularly saw young people who had smoked cannabis, suffering from mental illness.......yes I also saw folk who had misused alcohol and had liver disease.......and I'm not being 'fly' when I say this....you can get a liver transplant(OK, it isn't the easiest thing in the world, and in my opinion, it shouldn't happen if the disease is alcohol induced)......this type of mental illness can only be managed.


Ask me if I would use cannabis for recreational purposes and the answer would be 'absolutely not'.......I drink alcohol very rarely too.

it is,(again, my opinion only) people with sad lives and poor imaginations who need to rely on recreational drugs to get their 'highs' in life.

Can you be 100% sure the mental illness was from the cannabis though?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 905716)
Think your last statement says it all Margaret

Would you class alchol as a drug and include this in the statement.

A lot of "Legal Substances" could be seen to give a "high". Caffine, Tobacco.

Margaret Pilkington 14-05-2011 14:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 906085)
Can you be 100% sure the mental illness was from the cannabis though?



Would you class alchol as a drug and include this in the statement.

A lot of "Legal Substances" could be seen to give a "high". Caffine, Tobacco.


Well, you know that no-one can be 100% sure of very many things in life........all I can say was that in the patients that I came into contact with, there was no history or evidence of mental illness before they started using recreational drugs.

I have stated my opinion on alcohol....and I have already said that even water can be dangerous if it is misused.

Tobacco is addictive but the government make lots of money from the taxation of this product....so although they pay a lot of lip service to getting people to stop using it, they don't really mind if they don't.......the same with alcohol.

As for Caffeine, it is relatively innocuous........you would have to drink an awful lot of coffee, tea or cola to suffer any serious or lasting effects(unless you are allergic to it).
People always throw in the comments about alcohol, tobacco and less frequently caffeine.........but they are just red herings in the argument about the use of recreational drugs.....some of the newer ones we aren't sure of the long term effects, or the efffects on future generations.
The use of drugs(even soft drugs) is strongly linked to other criminal behaviour.

If you think these drugs are so safe. let me ask you this....would you let your children use them?
We let children drink Tea and coffee and cola drinks.
As I say, I base my opinions on what I have seen in a long nursing career, not necessarily research papers, because I know that reseach can be skewed to say what the researcher wants it to prove.

***Mr D*** 16-05-2011 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 906090)
Well, you know that no-one can be 100% sure of very many things in life........all I can say was that in the patients that I came into contact with, there was no history or evidence of mental illness before they started using recreational drugs.

I have stated my opinion on alcohol....and I have already said that even water can be dangerous if it is misused.

Tobacco is addictive but the government make lots of money from the taxation of this product....so although they pay a lot of lip service to getting people to stop using it, they don't really mind if they don't.......the same with alcohol.

As for Caffeine, it is relatively innocuous........you would have to drink an awful lot of coffee, tea or cola to suffer any serious or lasting effects(unless you are allergic to it).
People always throw in the comments about alcohol, tobacco and less frequently caffeine.........but they are just red herings in the argument about the use of recreational drugs.....some of the newer ones we aren't sure of the long term effects, or the efffects on future generations.
The use of drugs(even soft drugs) is strongly linked to other criminal behaviour.

If you think these drugs are so safe. let me ask you this....would you let your children use them?
We let children drink Tea and coffee and cola drinks.
As I say, I base my opinions on what I have seen in a long nursing career, not necessarily research papers, because I know that reseach can be skewed to say what the researcher wants it to prove.

As Usual Margaret a brilliant reply all be it we dont agree certain points.

Caffeine, is now not just in coffee ect you can get super energy drinks. with 500 milligrams of caffeine in. Just for the Children.

I would let my chldren do what they like when they are at suitable age - 18+. (I May advise but never command). Education is the key with the kids.

As for recreational drugs I would only put Cannabis in this area and thats been around for a Long, Long Time, I have NO interest in the other Class A (Man Made) drugs. Alcohol is NO red Hering its dangeress (IMO).

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2011 12:46

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I am pleased you think my answer is a good one, and I do not expect anyone to agree with my point of view. We are all exposed to experiences in life, these are the things that make us have the views we possess....views can change too, as our experiences change.
My views were formed as a result of a long time in the profession I chose to follow, and are carefully considered.(I wish I could package these experiences and give them out freely to teenagers who are tempted by the drug culture.....by the temptation of what they see as a safe 'high')

Yes, I am aware of the drinks that are supposed to give you a lift.......and as far as I am aware they are not suitable for children.

You are also right about education being the Key.......but you fail to mention that children, even those who are educated to the risks, sometimes will take those risks because of either peer pressure, or they feel(much like a road accident)...that won't happen to me.

I have(in my work) seen people who have started off on Cannabis and then progressed to 'hard' drugs......and their lives have taken a downward spiral.

Parents have a big influence in how their children face the dangers that the world holds, by how they(the parents) behave.
And Yes, I do know that you can be good parents and you can see your child make decisions that you have no control over, which are harmful to their life.....and which they didn't learn at home. When that happens you just have to be there for them, but tough love is required....and that is the hardest part.

***Mr D*** 16-05-2011 17:22

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You right about the energy drinks, not for children, but I have heard thats its becoming popular with them.

Peer presure is a killer, I know I have cercumed to this myself and its very hard to be the odd one out, BUT I would hope/wish that when my kids are older they have already been educated enough to make the right desicion or atleast know what to expect and how to stay safe and be comfortable to talk to me about it.

All drugs/Alcohol could be seen to lead to stronger things.

I have a argument that Alcohol (Going Out) would lead to stronger drugs more than smoking cannabis would.

Just to re add - I do not wish drugs, Inc Cannabis to be Legalised. Just to be looked at in a more pro active way.

jaysay 16-05-2011 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 906694)
You right about the energy drinks, not for children, but I have heard thats its becoming popular with them.

Peer presure is a killer, I know I have cercumed to this myself and its very hard to be the odd one out, BUT I would hope/wish that when my kids are older they have already been educated enough to make the right desicion or atleast know what to expect and how to stay safe and be comfortable to talk to me about it.

All drugs/Alcohol could be seen to lead to stronger things.

I have a argument that Alcohol (Going Out) would lead to stronger drugs more than smoking cannabis would.

Just to re add - I do not wish drugs, Inc Cannabis to be Legalised. Just to be looked at in a more pro active way.

What are you on:cool:

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2011 17:44

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The only advantage for the user of hard drugs, to them being legalised is that these drugs would not be 'cut' with stuff like vim or talcum powder....this would make them less hazardous, but just as addictive, therefore just as dangerous.......and if they were legalised then the government would surely put a hefty tax on them.
The other apsect would be that it would take dealers out of the loop......but I am not convinced that this would lead to less criminal activity.....users would still need to fund their habit.

Educate your children well, and tell them it is better to be a monkey than a sheep(that is....don't follow the herd......think and act for yourself, not because your crowd want you to do what they are doing).
I do hope that makes sense.

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2011 17:46

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John, I'm not on anything other than leaf tea...strong, hot and sweet(just how I like my men......that'll get Mancie at it :D)and an occasional biscuit!
I have enough stuff in my life to keep me high.




And Yes, I do know your question wasn't directed at me...but I couldn't help it!:)


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