The Tories - Page 246

cmonstanley · 29-12-2013, 21:53

your still missing the point

man/woman pretends to be employer , man/woman pretending to be employer puts on legitimate looking job on universal job match job centre sends 16 /17 /18 year old girl or boy to interview man/women could be human trafficker ,pervert serial killer or anybody. why? because private company who run the website cant be arsed to check them out or dont to save money.

Eric · 30-12-2013, 00:15

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

your still missing the point

man/woman pretends to be employer , man/woman pretending to be employer puts on legitimate looking job on universal job match job centre sends 16 /17 /18 year old girl or boy to interview man/women could be human trafficker ,pervert serial killer or anybody. why? because private company who run the website cant be arsed to check them out or dont to save money.

If your point is that there should be stricter public control over work which is outsourced to private companies, or that certain things should not be outsourced, then I agree with you. But this sensationalist horse manure about escort services ... gimme a break.

I'm presuming, though I'm not going to google to make sure, that prostitution is legal in the UK ... rather than picking on this tittillating tidbit, address the issue. Some things belong in the public sector so that the profit motive doesn't enter into the equation. NHS comes immediately to mind of course ... jails, search and rescue, power generation and supply, infrastructure and its maintainance, and, yes, even railways come to mind. Also there are, no doubt, laws against sixteen-year-olds working in the sex trade. So there is protection for the vulnerable who, I believe, are more at risk from criminal organizations than they are from someone playing around with a government website just for a goof.

Margaret Pilkington · 30-12-2013, 06:41

No, I'm not missing the point. It is you who misses the point.
But it isn't much use explaining it to you because you do not want to see any point other than your own.

Neil · 30-12-2013, 09:52

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you do miss the point. if somebody who refuses to go to a job interview that is on universal jobmatch gets sanctioned no questions asked. anybody can pose as an employer and put a job and organize a venue for interview . does that make you safe going sending a 16 girl year old for a job interview. if this was on for 2 days before being properly checked out what else is on there. here is another fake one Universal Jobmatch: Fake ads seeking MI6 hitmen and mafia couriers posted on Government's new website | Mail Online

Are you getting desperate now? That one is more than a year old

jaysay · 30-12-2013, 17:32

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Are you getting desperate now? That one is more than a year old

getting desperate Neil, he's always been bloody desperate

cmonstanley · 30-12-2013, 17:36

yep and its still not changed

this is happening in 10 days

Margaret Pilkington · 30-12-2013, 17:42

why should this worry you...none of them are in Scotland?
How do you know that your beloved Labour would not have done the same thing?
The real answer is - you don't!

cmonstanley · 30-12-2013, 18:28

here we go again, because you live in scotland

as ive explained before, i spend a lot of time in Fulham Kensington and hammersmith i am not tunneled vision and spend all my life in one place . the last labour government done cuts with the fire service as we all know about ie ossy but not in the dangerous scale the tories are. the last labour government spent money on services where is osborne spending his Osborne increases debt more than Labour did over 13 years » Spectator Blogs

jaysay · 30-12-2013, 18:32

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

here we go again, because you live in scotland

as ive explained before, i spend a lot of time in Fulham Kensington and hammersmith i am not tunneled vision and spend all my life in one place . the last labour government done cuts with the fire service as we all know about ie ossy but not in the dangerous scale the tories are. the last labour government spent money on services where is osborne spending his Osborne increases debt more than Labour did over 13 years » Spectator Blogs

Fulham Kensington and Hammersmith bit out of your depth there I would think, not too many keep the red flag flying in that neck of the woods

Margaret Pilkington · 30-12-2013, 18:34

Of course Labour made cuts....they also spent way beyond their means which is why we are in the position we are in.
If labour had got back into government they may have been forced to make more cuts than you would find comfortable with.
The political parties are not in the game to make life easier for the common man......some day you may just see that.

cmonstanley · 30-12-2013, 19:15

you cannot be serious, every government spends beyond our means ever since the 1690s this government arent even spending it they are giving it away to their banker and hedge fund mates

Guinness · 30-12-2013, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Of course Labour made cuts....they also spent way beyond their means which is why we are in the position we are in.
If labour had got back into government they may have been forced to make more cuts than you would find comfortable with.
The political parties are not in the game to make life easier for the common man......some day you may just see that.

Sorry Margaret I have to disagree with that...

We are not in the position we are in because of the last government. It's a myth perpetuated by the tory media based on what was meant to be a stupid in-joke by the outgoing treasury minister (there's nothing left, we spent it all), which was pounced on by the tory spin doctors. That's the kind of crap joke I might leave in the empty coffee jar at work before I have a few days off.

The last government left us with one third of the debt we are now in, they did this by spending on health, welfare and education, and they had to deal with a worldwide recession. Yes they were numpties..but..

This lot have killed people with their policies, just like Thatcher did and just like every tory government before them. And we are worse off than we have ever been with no sign of the light at the end of the tunnel, despite endless promises of tough love and all in it together.

You are right that political parties don't care..but what is your alternative?

Russell Brand says don't bother voting? Maybe you could pointlessly spoil your paper? Vote for a guy who has ignored his promises and the wishes of his electorate? Post endless links on forums without explanation? Bitch and whine on a local forum and do zilch about it? (thats me by the way as if you hadn't guessed

).

How do you make a guy who used to work in a printers but became your representative listen, and more importantly ACT on your view instead of his own or his party leaders?

cmonstanley · 30-12-2013, 21:31

i will also be keeping a very close eye on who buys and how much these properties go for

Barrie Yates · 31-12-2013, 08:26

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How do you make a guy who used to work in a printers but became your representative listen, and more importantly ACT on your view instead of his own or his party leaders?

Whilst I fully agree with this section of your post, you do raise a question in my mind - If Thatcher and her successors did so many things wrong why didn't Blair/Brown revoke all the contentious issues?

Less · 31-12-2013, 08:41

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Whilst I fully agree with this section of your post, you do raise a question in my mind - If Thatcher and her successors did so many things wrong why didn't Blair/Brown revoke all the contentious issues?

For the exact same reasons this co-ed lot of idiots haven't revoked any of labours so called misguided policies.