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Absolutely disgusted! The political class (DisMay in particular) disregarding the will of the British people again. She really has just finished her political carrer with this little nugget. Roll on the following scrapping, in fighting & backstabbing in the undignified scramble for the chance to be the next PM as she's not going to be warming the seat much longer.

BREXIT BETRAYAL: Appeaser Theresa Agrees to Hand Over ?45-55bn to the EU, Cover-up Planned

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...telegraph-says

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It was mooted that the UK would pay £40billion into the EU coffers to get trade talks started....I haven't done the sums(not enough toes) but perhaps when converted 40billion quid is 45 billion Euros.
My own personal feeling is that we should not be paying one penny until we can see exactly what it is we are paying for.
Even then I would never trust the figures from the lying snakes in the EU...after all if they cannot satisfy and audit of their affairs(and never have, to my knowledge) why should we trust any figures that are put forward as to what we owe?

This, at the moment is not set in stone...and until it is we have to treat it with a degree of scepticism.
We won't be out until we are out...and there will be many efforts to create division and unrest among folk like us who really have no say in what happens...we cast our votes in good faith...knowing that politicians are lying iceholes....only in it for themselves.
So far this has proved to be about right.

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i,ll actually believe it when we are out. right from the beginning i thought to get out of the club would be harder than many of us thought. one thing i,d like to hear is what the continental firms actually think of the negotiations and how it will affect them in exporting products to us. if the eu leaders make things difficult it will be a problem for them just the same as for us. cutting off noses come readily to mind. but is the eu all about trade and not the idea of united states of europe. i think the latter.

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I gave T.M. the benefit of the doubt initially, she has now managed to prove what a MUG i was.:rolleyes:

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Cashy, we are in the unenviable position of having few options when it comes to choosing a leader.Would you prefer to have Jeremy Corbyn leading the country?
I know that I certainly wouldn't.
Can you see someone on the political scene that would do something differently...something that would benefit the little people? You know...those people who go out and put their cross in the box.
I know my lamps are not as bright as they could be...but if you looked with the Hubble you would be hard pressed to find anybody.

I also think that TM might have had more luck had those who would thwart our exit sat down and shut up.
It is very difficult to captain a ship when only a few are rowing, when there are a Load who are using a drag anchor and even more who are having to be restrained from jumping overboard.
You get the picture.
The other bleeding fly in the ointment is Keir Starmer. He want all the secrets to be unveiled .
He is threatening D.Davies with censure and removal as an MP if these document(which would give away all our bargaining chips to the snakes in the EU)are not published...and he has the backing of that ugly gnome John Bercow.

Like in a game of football...the manager wants to keep his team and their strengths under wraps...likewise with these papers.
There are so many people in this country who hate being British, who have not one ounce of patriotism...who would sell us out to the EU, who talk down the UK at every opportunity, who work in the background undermining ANY efforts to get us out of the web that is the EU. Who want to be a part of the Federal States of Europe.
How very glad I am that my father is not here to see all this.
I am sure he would feel betrayed and he would feel that sacrifices he and his pals made on D.Day were in vain.


So Cashy, NO....you are not a mug at all. Like the rest of us you are a victim of circumstances out of your control.

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No Margaret i would prefer "Aids" to Corbyn as P.M. But tobe honest i think theres far worse than him infesting the Labour Party these days,

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Much of the Labour Party has been infiltrated by far left lunatics who draw the line at nothing and will resort to divisive underhand tactics to get where they want to be.

What those rebels(should read traitors) in the government are doing when they undermine efforts to get us out of the EU, is leaving the door ajar for those like Tom Watson and John Mc Donnell...not a very savoury thought is it?
I can't see why they cannot see this. If it is obvious to the likes of us, then why can those in parliament and the Conservative party not see it.
Maybe they can, maybe the shenanigans are more about their own ambitions than what is good for UKplc.(that is just my cynical nature rearing its' head again)

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To be honest i dont think its just the far left loonies, i reckon its also others who want to line their and their families pockets also,!

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Tony Blair did irreparable damage to the Labour Party by making it an imitation of the Tory party...now the party has been taken too far to the left by the lunatic faction.
To let these lunatics into power would be disastrous.

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That we can certainly agree on Blair completely destroyed Labour, but society had been turned that far by the "Thatcher" Bitch, was the only way they were likely to be elected imho.

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European insolence knows no bounds, Barnier really should shut his mealy mouth. UK has defended their own shores for long enough that we have a rich history & at the same time our past has been intricately interwoven with europe & on several occasions we've stepped up to the mark to ensure safety & freedom for our own & the peoples of europe at a great & tragic cost, all this mainly due to the foolishness & folly of said europeans!

Yet this creature has the gall to slate us by saying we're leaving them to face the problems of violence & terrorism, brought on by their foolish immigration policy's, lack of border controls & their own stupidity! We need to walk now!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...n-running-away

If this useless idiot needs further confirmation about Britains commitment to the defence of europe I suggest he takes a walk along the Normandy coast, or a trip to the Reichswald at Kleve wouldn't go amiss either, maybe even Oosterbeek.

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If Britain had indeed abandoned the EU, then it might just be because the EU has treated us like Fisons. They have bad mouthed us from the outset. They have done absolutely zero, nada, zilch to make us feel as if we want to stay.

It was Angela Merkel who threw open the doors of the EU, who welcomed all comers without any kind of discussion with other member states.
Once in Germany and with EU status and the Schengen zone rules, this meant that these economic migrants could disperse throughout the states.
These were not refugees, they were in the main young males...economic migrants.

You sow the wind and you need to know that what you reap is a whirlwind.

We never signed up to be part of a federalist state. What we signed up to was a trade deal.

If we, the people of the UK,had been given a say much earlier, we would not be in all this deep dark doo-do.

And the remoaners of this country can see this and think is is alright...have they got spit for brains or what?

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Son, I just read that article and put my blood pressure up by a good ten points.
I now need to lie down and listen to meditation music.

I hope Michel Barnier chokes on his b'fast in the morning...the whinging, lily livered icehole.

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Agreed Ma, that french creature should be removed now, after that outburst his position of so called "negotiator" is somewhat questionable to my mind.

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An hour of listening to Zen music didn't cure me of my ire.
I still feel hateful towards the man this morning.
He is spouting what what normally comes out of the back end of a male bovine.

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We never signed up to be part of a federalist state. What we signed up to was a trade deal.

If we, the people of the UK,had been given a say much earlier, we would not be in all this deep dark doo-do.

And the remoaners of this country can see this and think is is alright...have they got spit for brains or what?[/QUOTE]

when we joined the common market which the eu originally was i was old enough to say no then. always thought there was no need for it in the first place and there was a deeper reason for setting it up. for once in my life i was proved right. think the vote would have been better when the monetary union then the united states of europe was thought up. think a lot of the remainers are the younger generation, brought up with the eu, believing all the lefty tripe coming from it giving them the idea that there is no real alternative. no loads of family and friends and only my sister is a big fan but she likes ford cars so it says it all.

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Oy you! I like Fords too & I drive a Transit custom. :D

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thats two of yer who like the F.O.R.D. remember puking up on a regular basis in my old mans zephyr till he got rid for a proper car and my travel sickness ended overnight. car still smell that bloody plastic now after all those years.

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This hard border business with Ireland gets me!! if the Irish politicos had took notice of what the public actually voted for, this would NOT be a problem now.those ******* want it everyway.:rolleyes: seemed to make the public have another referendum, until the got what they wanted, our government should tell em to sod off and come straight outa the E.U..

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Nicky Morgan..Tory MP for Loughborough has stated that she sees herself not as a rebel, for opposing Brexit.
She sees herself as a 'freedom fighter'.
She tell us that sometimes she feels like she is in the 17th century when in the Houses of Parliament...the time of the Roundheads and Cavaliers.
She makes the observation that democracy is a precious thing...how ironic this statement is.
Democracy is so precious to her that she is prepared to thwart the will of the people who voted democratically to leave the EU...in favour of staying within an organisation which is about as undemocratic as you can get.
Is she for real? This woman was once the Education minister...but she has spit for brains.

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there are a lot more of em margaret. democracy is fine as long as it suits em. like all politicians its a case of do as i say not as i do. to hell with the public. i,m an m.p. so therefore i know best.

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Yes, I know there are a lot more of them...I just posted that about Nicky Morgan because it is so ironic...she can't see that while she says she values democracy she is doing all in her power to deny the electorate access to democracy.
There are so many unelected flunkies in the EU making decisions which can affect us like the one about having less brown chips, roasties, meat...because of the levels of acrylamide(which is being put forward as cancer inducing. They don't want cancer to kill us, but it is prefectly fine for jihadis imported into Europe to do this)....flunkies that we have no power to remove, regardless of how useless they might be seen to be.

Yes we elect MEPs, but due to the way the votes are counted, our MEPs can make no difference against larger countries.

Democracy she says....she would not know it if it smaked her in the piehole.

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And there it is, DisMay has fulfilled my expectations, folding to the eu & setting the UK on the road to further wrack & ruin. The eu will milk her feeble, subservient position to further their aims & its already started.

May has only just caved in & already the Belgeek Monkey is spouting the odds

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ls-Theresa-May

DisMay & her remainer crew really need to be gotten shut of & a team of pure, hard & unwavering patriotic Brexiteers (from across the parties) should be getting the job done!

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This is the deal that is better than 'no deal' (REALLY?)
Seems a pretty raw deal to me.
I think that many of us knew (or at least feared)that this would be the outcome.
(This is not what I voted for...nor I believe what most of the 17.4 million voted for either)
We hoped it would not, but all hope is in vain when the devil has p'd on your matches.

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it seems our only hope now is Labour to table a vote of no confidence in Theresa May

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God help us if that happened

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Labour are even worse than May and that takes some doing imho.

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We must not hope for that.
It is not a solution at all.
And as for no confidence in TM....what kind of confidence would there be in s labour government.
I suggest it would be the very worst possible outcome.
The current Labour Party are more Marxist than socialist.
GB would head straight down the gurgler.

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All done & dusted ÖVP & FPÖ in coalition, looks like Austria have seen sense at last & will hopefully be sticking it to Junky & his sycophantic muppets.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ralist-project

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diane abbott as chief negotiator would be straight out of an old brian rix farce.

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Except it would not be funny.
That woman could not find her bum with two hands, instructions and a map.
How in the name of all that is holy has she risen to the place she is?
(And before anyone tells me that she slept with Corbyn, I know, but think it would need more than that to do it...maybe she knows where the bodies are buried eh?)

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I see that the shameless hypocrite Frage, beyond his disdain for the EU, has no problem at all in pocketing his 73K/year for life pension. Appalling.

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There is not a politician on Gods Green earth who would not do the same.
He would argue that he has worked in the EU for his pension, so why should he not take it?
All those who would thwart the will of the people,would do so in order to gain monetary reward from gravy train that is the EU.
So he is doing no more nor less than the other hypocrites in the POW.

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I have complete disdain for the E.U. also so have many others oer here.:rolleyes:

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Cashy, I am with you...but if they wanted to pay me 73K per year...do you think I would turn it down...would you?

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in a word NO.

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I don't really think anyone would.

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Hardly a hypocrite, he's made clear his position since he's been an MEP & as far as I can see it's him & his fellow eurosceptic MEPs supporting the British perspective as a sovereign nation. Unlike the other turncoat arse kissing UK MEPs who've constantly followed the eu's anti British rhetoric & are trying their best to make UK just another sector of the eussr!

Mind you, as a colonial I don't suppose you understand sovereignty or what it's like to be a sovereign nation what with youse being a republic and all, that said though, your Donald J is apparently trying his utty to MAGA! Best of luck with that.

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Do you know Dave i have not seen that mentioned on our National News channels, I wonder why.:rolleyes:

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C'mon Cashy, you are not as green as you are cabbage looking.
Why would the main stream(left leaning) news channels report such a thing?
I honestly think that much of the media is in the pocket of the EU...and this makes it a no-no to report something which may further hack away at the EU experiment...throwing it into disrepute still further.(not that the reputation of the EU has ever been much to crow about)

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Shocked I tell you, absolutely shocked! :rolleyes: And further to the story, Kurz was officially sworn in today.

PICTURES: Protests in Austria as New Right-Populist Government Sworn In

Ooh & look at that, those peaceful, fair & kindly leftards going about their protestations in a very grown up & adult manner.

And then there's this little nugget, read it & weep!

Commission: EU Too White, Mass Third World Migration Must Be 'New Norm'

And people wonder why the sensible folk of UK voted to leave ....

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As for the peaceful leftards...we have them here too...they are part of the 'rent-a-mob' faction Momentum.
If they cannot get to where they want to be by democratic means then they will use any underhand tactic available.....and JC will turn a blind eye(or he may even be covertly egging them on...who knows?

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Jeremy Corbyn Doesn't give a toss. If he had his way, this great country of ours will turn into another Venezuela

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He has been quoted as saying that this time next year he might be PM.

What a nightmare that would be.

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Well the pillock also said he may be pm by the end of the year., only about 12 days to go.:D

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Cashy, you are being too kind calling him a pillock, there is some use in a pillock...You can use it as a door stop.

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"colonial" you patronising ass. I come from Dill Hall Lane! I emigrated and have made a home in California among some of the most open hearted people I have ever met. Not once have I been challenged as to my roots... but then again I am a white christian aren't I? That's what you guys are really talking about here isn't it? Brexit had nothing to do with economics or law... it's about brown people who speak funny and worship a different God coming over her and taking our .. blah blah. Well I am calling on your racism... It screams on many posts on this thread and it is shameful. I would think you would have more insight than most being a foreigner in another country. I hope you are being treated with more empathy and racial tolerance than you allow to others. Talk about hypocrisy.. you walk the walk mate.

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You have been lucky to be adopted into the heart of your new country.
You are from Dill Hall Lane you tell us... but how long ago?
Have you visited this country recently?
Brexit was not just about immigration, it was about the erosion of our sovereignty, it was about the imposition of regulations from Brussels.
The recent thing about Mrs Merkel letting in all comers was, I think, the last straw.
The brown people who speak funny and worship a different god do not integrate.
The 'refugees' who are actually economic migrants and mostly male are given priority over homes...so that the indigent population find it difficult to get homes.
Those brown people who worship a different god despise western ways, so why do they want to settle here?
These brown guys are the ones who bomb young girls at a pop concert, they are the ones who use a truck as a weapon to mow down the people in the country that has offered them safety , a home, health care, education.

I think you have no concept of the way things here have changed by a policy of uncontrolled immigration.
Calling out someone as a racist is a fine way to shut down any meaningful debate.
I worked in the NHS with folk of all colours and creeds, I got on with them, but over the last two decades this country has changed drastically, beyond all recognition. Not for the better, I might add.
If I were younger and did not have responsibilities here I would get the hell out of the place.
There are places in this country(and pretty close to where you lived) where there are signs in the street which say whites are banned after 8pm.
I have a friend who is a health visitor who has been threatened by youths from an Asian heritage...and midwives who go out to the women of these communities take personal alarms with them because they too have been accosted.
Burningman, when you live here all the time and see first hand what is going on, then and only then can you offer up your opinion.
What you are seeing is through the telescope of media...and they do not offer an unbiased view.

I live here and I am telling you what I can see with my own eyes every single day.
I feel like a stranger in my own country.
Now if you want to call me a racist for telling you how I see things, then so be it. Your opinion cannot alter my perception and mine is more valid than yours because I am living here..you are not.

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Oh yes, something else about our perceived racism...have you read any of the reports of those brown men who talk funny and worship a different god, sexually abusing young and vulnerable white girls....Rochdale, Rotherham, Blackburn,Newcastle Oxford, and many many other places where these men saw white girls as easy game, trash and plied them with drugs and alcohol and then perpetrated despicable acts on them...handed them round to their friends to use and abuse.
What did the authorities do...well, not a lot to start off with.(in some areas there is still abuse of young girls taking place...and the victims are being blamed)
Why might this be do you think?
Well, I will tell you...the police and social services were afraid that their action would be seen as racist.
There are many many reasons why Brexit happened and whatever your call is on the subject, it will not be anywhere close to the reason I chose to put my x in the Leave box.

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You have just displayed pig ignorance, you really know sod all about the way things have developed oer here. if you knew dave you would know different, but like i said yeh know sod all.:rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1206039]Oh yes, something else about our perceived racism...have you read any of the reports of those brown men who talk funny and worship a different god, sexually abusing young and vulnerable white girls....Rochdale, Rotherham, Blackburn,Newcastle Oxford, and many many other places where these men saw white girls as easy game, trash and plied them with drugs and alcohol and then perpetrated despicable acts on
Well, I will tell you...the police and social services were afraid that their action would be seen as racist.


if the boot had been on the other foot then it would have stopped just after the abuse started. if applying the law of the land to all is racist then bring it on.

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I would not have put it quite like that Cashy, but I know that you call a spade a spade.
I just think that when you do not live here, it is easy to swallow what the media portrays...and he is entitled to his opinion.
However, all that having been said, he is not in a position to sling the racist mud.

I would not dream of giving an opinion of mine about a political or economic situation in California because I KNOW that I am not in a position to judge.
I can only know what the media wants to tell me...and I distrust much of the media.
I would prefer to get the information from the man on the spot, the person living the situation..They know what they can see, they know how it really is from everyday experience.
That was my point(and I know you get it).

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You really do fit in well will the great American dream don't you, you've taken it on & embraced it wholeheartedly it seems, your world view is "Red, White & Blue" tainted it appears, you have a singularly American bubble outlook on the rest of the World.

Still you're not alone, I've met many Americans on my travels & most of them have a similar outlook on life, if it ain't American it ain't important, sad but true! And as to your shrill cries of racist, wind your neck in Lad, I learnt Nepalese to better assist the Gurkhas & their families settle in Germany & also within a British Army unit full of soddin' Foreigners "Yorkshiremen". When our commonwealth (Multi coloured, multi nationalities)& Fijian Soldiers or families had a problem with papers or just general "Germanness" in daily life, ikky boy here smoothed the waters & got things squared away.

Enough said I think, so poke your squeals of racism where the sun don't shine mate, it bothers me not. When you know me & my true nature, then & only then have you any right to judge me

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Nice one dave. serves the arrogant sod right.;)just another know all, that knows nowt.

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The fact that he has slung racist mud Margaret, to me, tells me all i need to know about him.

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Yes Cashy, I know it does and you need no virtue signalling to get by in life.

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Just for you "Burningman" & also to reinforce your view of my "Nazi" credentials. A prime example of how the idiot left makes not just a rod (or should that be girder?) for its own back & the rest of the populace via their own stupidity & pandering.

Left-Wing Politician Bemoans Lack of Police Action Against Migrant Criminals

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I see that one of these cultural enrichers has driven an SUV into the Christmas crowds in front of Flinders station in Melbourne.
The police say the man had mental health problems...was not, therefore a terrorist act.
Pardon me?
He is reported to have had an accomplice filming the carnage on a phone...this accomplice was also in possession of a bag of knives...I suppose he had gone out to cut some Holly boughs.

Australia is a country that has very stringent immigration laws, but still they get in and commit carnage against their host country, a country they have chosen to adopt.

I would suggest to the member in California that he look up and perhaps read the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan...just to see if he thinks Europe is on track to fulfil the criteria.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1206037]You have been lucky to be adopted into the heart of your new country.
You are from Dill Hall Lane you tell us... but how long ago?

Yes Margaret he does come from Dill Hall Lane, I worked with his father for many years, and have known Burning Man since he was a little lad. I have'nt seen him in oer ten years, I dont think he realises, how poluted weve become with scavengers, scroungers an evil do'ers since he left our shores, and the ones he lives with now were there generations before he was. If war was declared between India & Pakistan, 1/2 of Bradford & Birmingham would be war zones.

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Retlaw, I was not suggesting that he was misleading us.
Dill Hall Lane has always seemed to me to be quite a select area to live in.
He was not living in the streets along the curry mile.
His views sound as if he has not been back for far more than a decade.
DInG makes a very valid point.
He IS a white man living in California...maybe that accounts for his acceptance in his chosen location, had he been a different race or dare I say it 'colour' and creed maybe his experiences would have been different.

Whatever, he is not in a position to judge and pass comment on what is going on here...though of course he IS entitled to an opinion.

I am fed up of being in a town like Blackburn and feeling like it could be somewhere in Bangladesh.
I am telling it as I see it. Since when has stating facts been racist?

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I find it amusing that someone in the USA can call other nations out on racial tolerance. They make it sound like they have mastered all of their racial integration issues and can teach the world tolerance.

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“Blood mixture and the resultant drop in the racial level is the sole cause of the dying out of old cultures;" Hitler, Mein Kampf

"the dilution of the "Aryan" race through marriage to other nationals, the pure German is slowly being replaced with a European hominid"...your own words Dave.

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Migrants tell of brutality in Libya - CNN

the European unions complete failure to address this issue is shocking and a good reason to leave

they are too concerned with punishing member states who wont agree to Germany's refugee quota instead of having the leadership to intervene in Libya

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Not quite sure of your point here? But yes, I'm aware that the Germans are being replaced by marrying non Germans, it happens all over the world too with other populations, but the telling point of your comment is "European Hominid", not some Eurasian drone as envisioned by Coudenhove-Kalergi.

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Right, got it now! You've taken a sentence from a previous quote (see below) & put it up alongside one of Adolfs little "Nuggets", thereby highlighting the similarity of content. Sneaky, very sneaky, seems you & your sly little lefty convolutions may require some closer watching.

In my quote (above) I am commenting on a situation prevalent at this time in Germany. Whereas (below) the original comment from Adolf taken in full is a justification by him as to his belief in the "Supremacy" of the Deutsche Volk above all others.

"Blood mixture and the resultant drop in the racial level is the sole cause of the dying out of old cultures; for men do not perish as a result of lost wars, but by the loss of that force of resistance which is contained only in pure blood. All who are not of good race in this world are chaff...."

So taken in context, the content may appear similar, yet in actuallity their intentions are not. But Hell, that doesn't suit the agenda does it?

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Best bet Dave is ignore creeps like that. imho.

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A simple enough sentiment Cashy, but I do like to debate an issue, if only to highlight the discrepancies & or confusion in the "logic" of the left.

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I don't think that it is right to ignore someone when they call(or even imply) someone racist.
I think that someone like this,who can 'twist' a quote to fit their own perceptions/agenda is to be treated with caution.

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I treat em with contempt Margaret.

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Yes, Cashy..I know that you do...but this may mean that they, and their opinions are not challenged.
That cannot be good.
I know that it is unlikely that our opinions will colour or affect theirs, that does not mean we should let their post pass.

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True everyone should do as they think is the way, I'm pleased Retlaw has passed comment with him knowing who the guy is, it pleased me no end.;)

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Cashy...I like the cut of your jib....and I knew that retlaws post would please you no end.
I prefer to think of some midwife holding him up by the ankles and giving his bum a good slap(she was hitting the wrong end if she wanted to knock sense into him).

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Awwwe... You guys are just adorable. So cute.
I would of course, love to chat more but heck... things to do. Hope you all have a lovely New Year and be careful not to hurt your backs doing the funny walk. Hope that final solution works out for you all?
Burningman ... over and out.

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If that means what i think then good riddance.and as for funny walks, saw quite a bit of them when i was in san francisco. perhaps you were one of em.:rolleyes:

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Burningman, you will be sadly missed.
Except you won't...you aren't really a prolific member...been here since 2006 and made 41 posts.

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And there we have it, the leftists can't justify their argument cocisely & logically so revert to name calling, then they scuttle back under their rock with their tail between their legs.

Weak & insignificant as always.

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What does everyone think about another Referendum on the EU...I say NooooooNoooooNoooo

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Dont concern me at this point, don't think for a min there will be one.

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We're not the Jocks & most definitely not the eu with their "Do it over again until we get the result we want". It was clear it would be a once in a lifetime event, it happen, leave won, end of!

Now if only the whining remainiacs would accept these simple facts & put as much effort into getting behind the country & the result as they do to their constant bleating, Brexit would've been pretty much done & dusted by now.

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I think many suspect that those of us who voted Leave will be shafted by the slime-boxes that infest Westminster, Holyrood, Brussels, etc, etc.
But I'm quite heartened that Farage has popped up again to stiffen our sinews. There needed to be someone challenging what, after 18 months of incessant whinging from the BBC, was becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy that a "second" referendum was on.
Actually, if it were to happen, it would be a THIRD referendum.
The first was back in the 70s when we were lied to as to what we were voting to join. On the strength of over 40 years of evidence of how big a mistake we made, the entire British people, not just it's pampered politicians, invoked its democratic right to change its mind and vote to get out, whilst we still can, in a second referendum. So Tony Bliar and Lord Lardy Molloch Brown and all those Remoaning has-beens, you're too late - we've already had our second referendum.
And nothing I've heard over the last 18 months convinces me that staying in the EU is a good idea. The EUrocrats have revealed themselves to be what they are; a bunch of vindictive creeps.

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Trouble is the young in general have no sodding idea what we thought we had joined and for me most of em dont care.

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Nigel Farage had his chance but blew it by deciding that the job was done after the referendum. He spoke a lot of common sense and wiped the floor with the others who took part in the debates. I don't think Theresa May would have had such an easy time if it had been Nigel Farage on the other side of the despatch box rather than Jeremy Corbyn.

Who knows what would have happened if he had kept going but he chose to take himself to the wilderness so now only has the same voice as the rest of us.

As for another referendum, that would be a bad idea as the toffs would see it as a mandate to hold another vote every time the democratically governed peasant had the cheek to vote against their masters.

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I don't think Theresa May has had an easy time, but much of the hardships have been home grown by people wanting to talk down the UK...this makes fine ammunition for those like Micheal Barnier, Junker, Guy Verhofstadt...if they can divide the country even more then it makes their job so much easier.

The London Mayor threw his twopennorth into the pot the other day by giving us the details of a financial study(commissioned by him) that says Brexit will cost jobs and money...well, it would say that wouldn't it...you get the report that you pay for...and so far many of the'experts' in these lofty financial organisations have been so wrong it is untrue.

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Are they the same experts who wrongly predicted the outcomes of the Referendum, the UK election, The North Korea vs South Korea tiddlywinks friendly and the US Presidential election?

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One would assume so, after all, what other experts are there? ;)

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I was taught that X marks the spot....and a spurt is a drip under pressure.
That about sums it up really.

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DisMay really needs to pull her finger out & get the UK walking away right now! Today the Belgeek freak nomark gormless guy was bumping his gums & sneering (is it just me or does that face of his need a good slapping every time it appears?) over the UK'sattitude ... hello, look in the mirror tool! The eu's attitude is the one causing the problems preventing any forward movement or agreement.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/92...nsition-period

Then there's fat boy Elmar "Fudd" Brok (yet another nomark petty politico) piggy little German mep & cdu-ist (them as can't get their party & government organised since the Sept 2017 elections)adding his couple o' cents worth of gobbing to the debate & slagging the UK!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ade-Elmar-Brok

Isn't this constant outpouring of verbal diaohrear & bad mouthing enough for Dipsy to finally realise we've no friends in europe & the only thing that'll shut these R-soles down is a great big FU Europe, we're gone NOW!

When & if you can act like adults & reliable partners give us a call & if we ain't to busy we'll get back to you ..... maybe!

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Doubt if theirs a hope in hell of her doing that dave. More chance of Stanley winning the Champions League in the next 5 years,

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I am still sticking with the Conservative's and Teresa...Labour will keep us IN

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Last thing this Country needs is a General Election

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If TMs colleagues in the Tory party did not spend so much time back biting and working to undermine GB plc then it would be an easier(not easy) ask.
But when you have creeps like George Soros bank rolling the remoaners, then it becomes a harder job.
This man who says he just wants what is best for Britain is a liar and a hypocrite, this is the man who made a billion betting against Sterling on Black Wednesday....that is really supporting Britain.
Many of the civil servants are working against the will of the people too.
They put erroneous reports out to the media in the hope that they can sway opinion.
My opinion remains the same. I just want out. I want no transition period, I want no single market trade deal, I want nothing more to do with these unelected bullies...who are cropping themselves at the thought that the money we won't be contributing needs to be found from somewhere.

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could not agree more margaret. the common market was bad enough but the EU is a total no deal for me. the remoaners are even worse the the institution they really love. the united states of europe is their aim for various reasons plus of course the money. people of our age group are mostly against it and talk of us being traitors to our brainwashed youth is always spouted out. do not forget em always trying to make out it will be harder too for em going to benidorm after we leave. there are no depths they will go to to keep us in their club.

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No reason we can't Cashy but 5 years might be pushing it a bit -:D

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Looks like the rats are scrabbling in the sack again! Yet Geeky Guy & Arch Duke Drunker are adamant the eurinal members are all singing from the same song sheet .... really?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...exit-blackhole

And normally Mutti (who'll hopefully be shown the door in the not to distant future) & Mongsewer Micro would also be right in the thick of it, but it looks like they may just have their plates full with other concerns at present. Oh the deep joys of it all!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-Angela-Merkel

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ouard-Philippe

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Meself its beginning to look quite good fer the U.K. with this lot.;)

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When we leave EU the NHS will be sold off to the Americans in pieces as part of a trade deal because we will be skint and desperate! They are waiting for it.

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Every village has one.:rolleyes:

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I don't think we will be skint, and I cannot see how we will be desperate.
There have been a lot of doom and gloom mangers...I think you may have been paying too much attention to them.
The EU are currently crapping themselves at the loss of revenue from the UK....Nederland have said they won't increase their contributions.

If you think the EU are our friends after seeing how they have bad mouthed, bullied and threatened us....and from your comment, I would say that you are one of those folk who wanted to stay in the EU.
I think they are known as remoaners.
Well, I am one of those swivel eyed loons that cannot wait to ditch this undemocratic, money gobbling,corrupt organisation.

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Shows what you know - I actually voted out.