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all I would say to you on that score is...don't go holding your breath!
I do not get the demonisation for something that you cannot choose...your gender(though of course there are some out there that THINK you can choose that) your age or your colour.

I suppose you could always tell people that you identify as a man of colour(or is that phrase offensive now, too?)

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Slightly off topic but over the last few months I have discovered that for half the population face masks do have a commendable attribute.

Its always good to get the supermarket out of the way early in the morning while its quiet. With a face mask you can go before you shave and not feel quilty. Secondly the stubble helps to keep the mask in place. Then you can go home and breakfast and shave in peace and at your own rate.

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thats exactly what i do lol although ive started going about 7-45 ish now cos there are no tills until 8-00

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or like i do nip into B and M just after it opens on a saturday morning with no one else in and you can pull your mask down without any confrontations.

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And that, my friend is your opinion & choice. I'll not argue the point with you, but let's see what happens in the not to distant future when this ruling goes through as it inevitably will looking at the numbers. :)

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Looks like some ‘laws’ are not quite what the police and others believe them to be!

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...r-of-lockdown/

100% failure rate in court prosecutions under the Coronavirus Act.

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courts are a complete joke anyway these days have been for a good few years now. imho.

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It is not courts that make laws...only governments do that....it is not courts who decide whether a prosecution should proceed...it is the CPS.
Courts are limited by proscribed sentences.....and who sets those...well, I will give you a clue..it isn't the courts.

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well aware of that but judges tend to give minimum sentences, fact they are all out of touch with decent folk. here is a lot wrong with the system i know. and to me LABOUR have been the biggest contributors to that.

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main problem is the different sentences that are handed out for similar offences. if you have to rely on legal aid i can imagine youre chances of getting off stuff is far less than if you have an unlimited supply of money to throw at your case. as the late MP gerald nabarro once said, british justice is the best in the world as long as you can afford it.

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lots of these things have been like a parking ticket. how many have just paid up and not challenged them. i,d have probably just paid up a 200 pound one as it for me would not have been worth the hassle. just wonder if these will get their money back. i doubt it.

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And as the vacinnation programme in UK rolls along the eu-rinal (frogland & Brattyland) continue to make mischief over the OAZ jab, especially Mongsewer micron.



The man will be coming to a very bad end with his continued arrogance & insinuations, personally for my preference, the sooner the better.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...irus-update-vn

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have to say the man is a complete CLOWN,

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Agree completely mate.

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https://thecritic.co.uk/a-year-of-fear/
For your information.
This story is also carried by the Telegraph, but cannot be accessed unless you subscribe.
This shows the level to which this government will stoop to remove your liberty and freedom.

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Interesting read Ma, thanks for that.

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it is very interesting indeed. just wonder what there is in my DNA and others in my boat who have not been indoctrinated by this to follow like sheep. would be interesting also the number who have not believed one sentance of the propaganda but have followed the rules not in fear but just for a quiet life. walked out of the vets the other day as i wasn,t prepared to do this, that and the other for something minor. had to leave it for her in the kitching to do again. she deserves a medal for getting me through the last 12 months of restrictions and rules.

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More news from Australia for those who may be interested. The COVID vaccination programme over here has become an utter shambles. The PM had promised to have 4,000,000 people vaccinated by 31st March – in actual fact only 800,000 were done. Lots of vaccines ordered but not delivered. All sorts of excuses and passing the buck. Just heard that at the rate this is being done it might be the end of next year before the jabbing is completed.

Then comes the news that the AstraZeneca vaccine is now not recommended for people under 50, so people who have had the first dose in good faith are in a bit of a quandary as to whether to have the second one or not…..

….and does this mean that when a person is 50 years and 1 day their body is different to what it was when they were only 50? I am a lot older that 50 but I don’t want to become ill or die from a jab that is supposed to stop me from becoming ill or dying.

Government stuff-up 1 – confidence boost 0

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i had that jab dotti and honestly not bothered in the least.i will have my 2nd one when it comes its a damn site better than covid in my estimation. the media seem to have suceeded in frightening some folk not this kid.

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i had that jab dotti and honestly not bothered in the least.i will have my 2nd one when it comes its a damn site better than covid in my estimation. the media seem to have suceeded in frightening some folk not this kid.

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Another side effect that has just been discovered is that it seems to make people repeat themselves.
:hidewall:

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Ooh, meow,meow! :D

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or frighten them to have it and now frighten them again to be wary. just wish they,d all go away, report something and leave it there. over 12 months now of all this. burl ives got it right, life gets tedious don,t it.

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Second jab was same as first - arm ached a bit for an hour or so then fine. So can I go out and play now?

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Only problem being is no one else is allowed out to play. :)

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France is a circus, but Macron thinks he is The RingMaster.
Nothing much new there

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Even worse than that Ma, I have to travel & deliver in the place quite frequently, I'd say it's more like one of those travelling Victorian "Freak shows" with all the freakish wierdness & gruesomeness that entails.


As to Paris, dirty, horrible, disgusting place, why anyone would want to willingly go there is beyond me, I go through it but at least I'm paid.

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been there and thought the same. romantic, yes as is barrow on half day closing day.

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[QUOTE=DaveinGermany


As to Paris, dirty, horrible, disgusting place, why anyone would want to willingly go there is beyond me, I go through it but at least I'm paid.[/QUOTE]

Never been and never will, I have enough baby frogs in the purpose built pond on my allotment, without me going looking for a Napoleon Tadpole.

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Aye & them ones stay small & likeable. ;)

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plus its the capital of a country with inedable food and a love for the worlds worst food garlic. as for wine or my preferred spelling, whine i have never got that stuff either. when i did drink i used to love these foody types who when asking me what i wanted to drink. they expected my reply to be chateau something or other and not a pint of mild. sod em the look on their faces helped me to think my share of the bill was worth it.

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An interesting perspective on what we’ve had to endure in 2020.
An understanding of the past often reveals a reality that computer models about the future can never do.
This is a chart taken from the BMJ
If you want to read the article it’s here - https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n896

Can’t wait for the panic mongering media to highlight the findings that the death rate in 2020, as a % of the total population of the country, was lower than in every year before 2009.

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An interesting read.
Thank you for that Exile.

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very interesting mate.

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I can’t believe this Govt, but has Johnson finally realised that there is at least one well-tested, universally-used, very cheap anti-viral drug out there that has been scientifically proven, in numerous studies, to be effective in prevention: ivermectin.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56823627

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Slowly, drip by drip, is some common sense and truth finally emerging...very well written article from New Africa.
Interesting what it claims about the Bought Broadcasting Corruption towards the end, but then we already knew how that organ works.

https://www.newsafrica.net/sections/...testing-claims

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funny how these types of article have never got a mention and i think a lot of us know why. at times if you do not follow the media norm you feel akin to a jewish, gay rights sympathiser in pre war nazi germany who expects a knock on their door from the goons any minute.

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Hold the front page, news from Germany!


22.04.2021: RKI: Flu wave failed to materialise - a novelty

Berlin (dpa) - With only 519 laboratory-confirmed cases so far, what is probably the weakest flu season in decades in Germany is coming to an end. According to the definition of the Influenza Working Group (AGI) at the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), the criteria for the beginning of an influenza wave have not been met, an RKI spokeswoman announced. This means: "There has been no flu wave at all this season." This is a novelty since the beginning of flu surveillance by the working group, which was founded in 1992. One reason for the absence of the wave of infections is the Corona protection measures.
+++


Who'd a thunk it? :rolleyes:

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Here’s a question which none of the ‘bought’ media, as part of their hysterical coverage of the current Covid rate in India, seems bothered to ask...

Notwithstanding disputes about causes of death, what % of the population has died with/from Covid?

In the UK the ‘official’ death rate figure is 0.19% of the total population (129,048 out of 68,177,336).

In India, it’s 0.14% (189,549 out of 1,391,174,679).

Of course, once we all governed by the Chinese Communist Party inc. we can look forward to a death rate of.....0.0003%.

Who, other than the WHO, would believe it? :rolleyes:

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Exile, there are a number of us who have maintained a perspective on this pandemic.
We have asked what seem reasonable questions...we have posted links to evidence that was not part of the MSM cabal(therefore disrespected)......we were called Covid deniers.
(I was told that I was being irresponsible)

I have never once said that Coronavirus did not exist....but that it was being used as a tool to scare the population into submission.

When the government are telling you one thing, but the ONS stats are saying something different you have to think that there is a motive to what is being done.

Even the ONS stats were fiddled with too.....the usual seasonal flu and pneumonia deaths were re named Covid.......never before has there been a year when there were no deaths from Flu and pneumonia....that in itself has to be questionable.

Now....all hail the vaccine.
A vaccine that is still in stage three trials until sometime mid 2023, and this new type of vaccine has never before been used on humans....let alone tested properly.

So the big Pharma companies....who have immunity against any claims against them, got the whole population of the UK to be their guinea pigs.....at absolutely no cost to them.
Even those who declined the vaccine were a useful tool...they are the ‘control’ subjects in this vast free study.
For a virus that has a mortality rate of less than 1% ( unless you are fat, unfit or have other co morbidities).
Most of those who died were older people....not that any death is not lamentable, but most had lived longer than the national averages of death for both men and women.

We are now almost 400 days into restrictions of some sort or another.
Lives have been disrupted(go on tell me that this disruption is less than the disruption of death.....I would rather live on my feet than die on my knees)....the economy had been tanked and the education of future generations have been trashed.

Yet there are still those out there who are begging for more of the same....too scared to go back to living without a mask.
What cowards we have become!

Check out my Ayn Rand Signature....because that is exactly how it is for us now.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1253074]

Yet there are still those out there who are begging for more of the same....too scared to go back to living without a mask.
What cowards we have become!

its not just the odd person either. there is a good percentage of the country who are quite happy to live restricted lives and have been frightened by the MSM to feel otherwise. the problem is that these peoples fears seem to be taken into account far more than us with the opposite take on the situation. many are not frightened in going out but either they have lost the habit and cannot be bothered anymore. or they refuse to live in a restricted society with the obvious end results. small businesses will be gone for good with more and more of the older generation ending up recluses for no fault of their own. seems a long time ago since lonliness of the old was a big issue. now more has been created.

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Currently reading ‘Atlas Shrugged’, Margaret, and can’t believe just how relevant it is to our new ‘re-set’ world.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1253074

Yet there are still those out there who are begging for more of the same....too scared to go back to living without a mask.
What cowards we have become!

Check out my Ayn Rand Signature....because that is exactly how it is for us now.[/QUOTE]well im sorry margaret you may as well be a denier calling people cowards for wearing a mask i think thats disgusting personally.

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being labelled a coward may be one step too far. anyone who wants to wear o totally in favour of them.ne then for me its your choice and i,d respect it. however do not expect others to go down the same path who choose to be unmuzzled as they have never seen any science that has been given out in total favour of them. i imagine anyway if the wearing became voluntary it would end up a 50/50 situation in the wearing but would stop the hassle that both sides would get if they fall into the opposite camp.

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Cashy, like you...I say it as I see it and if you are disgusted by my post, then that is your prerogative.

By the way if you go back and read what I actually posted you will see that you have put words into my mouth that I did not say.
Because I make a reference to the wearing of masks...and then make the observation of 'What cowards we have become' does not mean that I linked the two..it was you who assumed that I was calling those wearing masks cowards.

That was not my intention at all I just think that over the last year we have ceased to stand up for our freedoms.

But that you do not see this in my post is perfectly alright....differences are what make life interesting...lack of freedoms do not make life interesting and in some cases it is not living at all it is existing...ask those who have not been able to see their elderly relatives in care home for over a year...see what they say.
Ask those who have had to have sparse funerals.....see how these people feel about it.


We have been lied to over and over again.

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i do not wear ae mask all the time,only when i have too,and you did intimate anyone wearing a mask all the time was a coward i am well capable of reading whats written, i can understand those who wear them even though i do not,and saying we have become cowards is a step to far i think.

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If that is how you wish to interpret my post then so be it.....but it is not what I said.

We have been cowardly in not challenging what we have been rquired to endure.
We have freely gifted our freedoms to government bodies who have not told us the truth.
Why would statistics be manipulated to make a situation seem worse than it is?..Other than to scare the population into compliance?
A scared population is a population that will comply with whatever is asked of them unquestioningly.

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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



Martin Niemöller (1946)

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Freedoms are hard won and once surrendered they are difficult to get back.

Someone once said that all it takes for evil to prosper, is for good men to stand by and do nothing.
And the greatest deception ever practised was for the devil to convince us that he does not exist.

It is easier to fool people than it is to get them to see that they are being fooled.

All these things I have said throughout this thread.
I have not wavered in my beliefs.....but they ARE my beliefs.....I have posted the evidence of where my beliefs came from....they were not formed easily.

It is far easier to conform than it is to stand up and try to say what is not right.

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i think that is utter rubbish personally,and you are under esimating people.

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Which bit is it that you consider to be rubbish?

I cannot argue with what I can see.(I see people who side step me like I am a plague carrier....I see people who get into arguments because someone is two inches over a marker in a supermarket queue)..but you believe that it is rubbish and you are entitled to believe that.
I do not share your beliefs...nor you mine.
I can say no more than that.

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every town has its share of idiots which people like those are in my book.i believe the majority have sense, your beliefs you are entitled to have.this pandemic was up to people to please themselves, which you and i did obviously

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These ‘idiots’ (they are not idiots at all...just scared people who do not want to take a risk)have been made that way by relentless scarification by Sage, government modellers(who, by the way have got NOTHING right so far), the mainstream media too have
done their share of seeding propaganda for the government.
These people who do these things believe that they are protecting themselves from a deadly virus.
At one point we were being told by Whitby,Vallance, Van Tham that there would be 4000 deaths per day if we did not follow the rules.
There have been something in the region of 127 thousand deaths since the start of this pandemic....27,000 people contracted this while in hospital for something else.
The virus exists, but it is only fatal if you are fat, old, unfit and unhealthy.
It has culled the old and the infirm.
Mother Nature is doing what Mother Nature does....she prunes humanity.
However unpalatable that is.....it is a fact.

We need to get out and learn to live with this...develop our own immunities.
Big Pharma have enough money.


Why have the government lied and lied.....?
What is the motive for this?
I can tell you for certain that it will not be for our benefit.

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We are all entitled to our own opinions but we should surely respect each other.
I think it was Voltaire who said something like I may disagree with what you say, but I wil defend to the death your right to say it.

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well voltaire was not that bright then how can anyone sensible agree with a terrorists right to spout the garbage they do that attracts idiots to join them?

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Ok

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Yeah well, that went well didn't it? :D


Sorry lads, that little discussion didn't half make me chuckle, I blame my warped sense of humour for that. ;)

Oh & Mark, the quote was accredited to Evelyn Beatrice Hall. Every day a school day here on AW. :)

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It is not about agreeing with them...but about letting them have the right to say what they believe.
Free Speech...and that is getting less free by the day too.
How long before we have the thought police too.


It is time we realised that George Orwells 1984 was not a manual for life but a novel.


And Son you are right about Evelyn Beatrice Hall having written it, but it might have been a quote from Voltaire as this lady was Voltaires biographer

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DaveinG, I must have the same sort of warped sense of humour that you have because it made me chuckle also.

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Oh dear, Cashie, you write that Voltaire wasn’t that bright. Sorry but I can’t let that statement go unchallenged. I’m sure you will know who Voltaire was (1694-1778) but in case you don’t here’s a very brief history for you. He was an historian and a philosopher. He was a prolific writer, writing more than 20,000 letters and 2,000 books and pamphlets.

He advocated freedom of speech, freedom of religion, amongst other things. He was not afraid to criticise the government for which he was sent to prison.

Not very bright? – methinks you do the man a great injustice….but then, we ARE all entitled to our own opinions.

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Talk of people being "quote", Cowards, for wearing a mask is certainly well out of order by anyones standards; if someone wishes not to wear one that is their decision and O.K.
I have been watching the people of India taking their loved ones to be burnt on open fires, as is their tradition; the relatives of the dead in their thousands are all wearing masks;does this mean that the populace are all cowards ? Shame on (the person),who first coined the word on this Web.

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Taddy did you read the post...or did you just read someone else’s interpretation of my post?
If you are naming and shaming, then why did you not say who it was?

I have been a member on here for a lot of years.
I moderate my own posts.....and I post with respect to the opinions of others.
My opinions are based on information which has been obtained from sources other than MSM....some of the information is from professional journals.
Throughout this thread I have maintained the same view and given reasons for this.

I have taken time out from the forum because it seems that there are few themes other than this or Stanley.
Whether you like my posts, or my views is irrelevant to me.
I think the whole population has been lied to and bamboozled for a reason that we are not being informed of.
But only time will tell.
Oh,and by the way I stand by my posts.

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sorry margaret i must disagree i do not regard those who wear masks as cowards at all i reckon they are frightened people, perhaps have cause to be i wouldnt know and neither would anyone else.

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Cashy, at least you have done me the courtesy of posting what I wrote...thank you for that.
Now, please tell me where I said ‘those who wear masks are cowards...’

I can only be responsible for what I post, not how you interpret it.

I went on in another post to explain my meaning, but I suppose that is not relevant as you have already decided how you wish to view the post you quoted.

Those two observations that you have quoted above are not inter dependent.
They are two separate things...though I feel like I am wasting my time trying to explain this to anyone on here.

You called those people who look at me like I am a plague carrier....and those who give you an argument if you are two inches over a marker in sa supermarket idiots’....I went on to say that they were not idiots...they had been ‘conditioned’. Into those actions.
In the same way that mask wearers have been conditioned to keep wearing masks.

But have it your way...read my posts...don’t read my posts.
But please do not tell me what I meant.

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to scared to go living without a mask what cowards we have become you said that to me means what i said.

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Cashy...when you take something out of context you change its meaning.
There is a full stop after the 'too scared to go on living without a mask'

This means that sentence has ended..or at least it did when I was at school.

The 'What cowards we have become' is separate.

If you wish to read this as a derogatory comment then so be it....but the two sentences are separate and do not depend on each other.

Earlier in that same post I mentioned about the sarefying tactics of government...but yet you made no mention of this....that the scaring is a tool to gain compliance.....as I say.
I cannot be responsible for how you interpret my post......but I would ask others to please read the original and decide how they wish to interpret it.

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it all relates to the same thing is how ive read it.

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No amount of explanation is going to alter how you see it. You have decided that it is something it isn’t.
So be it.

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does that not work both ways?

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Yes it does.

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Why do you have to ask that Question? You know the answer.

Well,of course it does if you have written the post...but I know what I wrote.
so I think I am in a better position to judge the meaning than you Cashy.


Anyway, why don't we leave it at that eh!

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1253195]Why do you have to ask that Question? You know the answer.

Well,of course it does if you have written the post...but I know what I wrote.
so I think I am in a better position to judge the meaning than you Cashy.


Anyway, why don't we leave it at that eh!

Why should we leave it at that? when an ex senior sister of the NHS, (yes) Margaret, since you wanted a name, I am prepared to give that name, be allowed to call people cowards, some of them ex forces personel who have served their country in war zones around the world; who are now wearing masks because they believe that they are more at risk of dying of Covid than they were in conflict be accused of being cowards; at least that is the way your post came across. (the ex forces personel that I refer to includes some of my relations and friends by the way) but whether this will make any difference to your all knowing mindset about Covid is more than debatable shall we say.

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Well cart on Taddy. cart on!
I searched for that post of mine where I apparently called ex service personnel cowards.
Strangely, I could not find it.
The comments have been taken out of context in relation to my post and the post before it frome Exile...who I was answereing...But hey don't let that get in the way of you having your heart tugging rant.

Just cart on.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1253198]Well cart on Taddy. cart on!

What a cracking answer from some one who purports to have taken extra english lessons afer leaving school.

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Taddy, is Margaret correct in thinking you haven’t actually read the original posting but have just read the follow-up from another member and assumed their (mis)interpretation was correct? It seems to me that this is the case otherwise you would have noticed the full stop at the end of the sentence referring to masks. As we all know, or should know, this signifies that the subject in that sentence is ended. Therefore, the sentence that followed about cowards is a general observation and the way I interpret it is that it refers to those who are not prepared to take that step forward and embrace life once again.

Cashie, what is it about full stops that you apparently don't like? It seems that for some reason, and to your way of thinking, you have eliminated the full stop that was in the original posting and so have made two unrelated sentences into one. It seems that you are unable to separate them. Just asking...

Margaret, your input into AccyWeb is always well thought out and backed by actual fact, not the falsehoods that are pushed on to and believed by the more gullible amongst us. Always interesting and thought-provoking, which is what a forum should be.

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Taddy, seeing as you know so much about English,perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to what was wrong with my last post.
You know the one where you sneeringly mentioned my little o level English result...from way back in 1987...a full 25 years after I left school.

Was it the Grammar that you found wanting...or was it the punctuation...or maybe it was the sentence construction.
Whatever it was please feel free to correct it for me and I will head off to find the Brasso to buff up your halo(for the good deed)
If you are going to spend time correcting the English in these posts, be aware, you will have little time to consume Hobgoblin.

Cart on is a colloquialism, but then I am sure you know that...and it means get on with it.
So as I said, we will leave it there.
Cart on...but do it without me.

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Taddy, referring to your rant (posting 1772) where the heck did that come from? By the way, if we want to be pedantic I have to say that I ran out of fingers counting the punctuation (and other) errors in this posting – and couldn’t be bothered to take off my shoes to start on my toes. So, maybe before you start criticising other people’s English (please note – should be a capital E) as in your posting 1774, you should look in your own backyard.

Just saying….

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Margarets post says "what cowards we have become", that infers that people who take notice of goverment guidelines are all Cowards; at least that is how I and others have interpreted it. I hope this post is spelt to your satisfaction Dotti, as I did not take extra English lessons after leaving school.
Please carry on saying.

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I also hope that Margaret carries on saying whatever she wishes as long as she does not mind other peoples answers,

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Taddy, I have to be honest, whether or not your English is up to scratch does not really matter one iota to me, means probably as little as my opinions and observations matter to you. However, I have to say that you really are incorrect in the way you have interpreted some comments on this thread but this interpretation is stuck in your mind now and I don't think any words will make you see it any differently.

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Jings, this was in danger of getting like Woke Central or Radio 4’s Today programme with some, for whatever reason, imputing a meaning into another’s words that wasn’t intended, and then making their misinterpretation THE issue.
What next, let’s all cancel Margaret?
Unless my O level in English was undeserved, I read it as “what cowards we have become”.
And I agree with that.
My take is that WE all have become cowards, allowing an authoritarian bunch of sleazy politicians to rule by diktat, unchecked by a supine opposition, a gagged medical profession, and a compliant judiciary, aided by a befuddled police force, and to deliberately scare us all witless (check out the transcripts from SAGE’s Behavioural Insights Team if necessary) by a manipulative media.

Here’s something that didn’t make it past the MSM’s censors....

https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/202...zxlJt8cLZcKDe0

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must be just me, but i find its harder to conform than do anything else. must be a family trait where we always find flaws in the so called following the popular trends and thoughts of the day. even found my lads views getting closer if not the same as mine now he,s in his 30,s. i never did much with my life and neither will he. we,d rather say no than yes to those above us if we feel right on a subject. they do not like it when its proved they were wrong in the end and try to keep you in your place.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1253158]These ‘idiots’ (they are not idiots at all...just scared people who do not want to take a risk)have been made that way by relentless scarification by Sage, government modellers(who, by the way have got NOTHING right so far), the mainstream media too have
done their share of seeding propaganda for the government.
These people who do these things believe that they are protecting themselves from a deadly virus.

never forget the ones who were like this pre virus. the people who helped to fill up doctors surgery,s every day with very little at the worst wrong with them. we all i imagine know quite a few like this who bore you to death with their new illness or showing off their new mobility scooter. the ones who are so ill and infirm that they are the first up for dancing. there lives have been a living hell for over a year now in fear of something that the ones we know have never contracted.

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first words on the bbc news at 7 this morning. india is having trouble to breath. i really dispair i do.

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Exile, your O level was definitely well-deserved - an excellent posting about the cowards we have become. As I mentioned in a comment I made to Margaret's recent blog, the old lady in the series 'Years and Years' had it right when she blamed the people around her for the awful state of the world (this was supposedly in a few years time) and when they asked why did she say that when they hadn't done anything - she replied 'exactly, you didn't do anything'. That's how it is, we don't do anything but sit back and let it happen. Definitely a cowardly approach, we take the easy way out instead of trying to make a difference.

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do not think its cowardly but more of a realistic approach to a situation. more of what really can i do about the situation than i fear of doing something. imagine living somewhere like say barnsley in the general election if you do not want labour in. whats the point of getting worked up about a change of government when you have a 20 odd thousand majority against you.

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I agree with most of the above except,.,! *

It is backed by opinions not fact, both sides of this issue can be accused of stretching the truth to gain extra points for their team, when in actual fact all should admit to knowing little and spouting plenty of cowsbrown.


* (just thought I'd throw in some confusing punctuation)

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[QUOTE=Less;1253233]



It is backed by opinions not fact, both sides of this issue can be accused of stretching the truth to gain extra points for their team, when in actual fact all should admit to knowing little and spouting plenty of cowsbrown.

its that opinions on one side got more air time than opinions of the other. this lack of debate and the opposite view not really being heard gave these opinionsto become facts rather than opinions. like this post too many opinion words.

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Isn't it great that we are allowed to have opinions and not be afraid to 'voice' them, whether others agree with us or not. To have equal time for opposing views needs to have equal input and of course this is something that is up to the individuals taking part in a debate. Thank goodness for forums such as Accrington Web where we can express our views and debate them. Whether or not our opinions change after reading what others think doesn't really matter, at least the people taking part have had an opportunity to have their say.

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Have their say yes, but they must try not to lose their objectivity or demand how someone else should reply.

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Need to get more popcorn! :D

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Interesting interview.

This scientist has been cancelled by the MSM. No doubt they assumed, because he has a “cwazee axxent” like in a Hollywood movie, that he can be smeared as a Knutty Professor?

https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/24/...e-pandemic-14/

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the only problem with accy web and the other two i post on is that everyone really feels the same about every subject brought up. there is the odd difference of opinion but very rare. without knowing everyones age on here and the others i get the impression we are all of the older end who think woke is something you do in the morning.

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I awake of a morning, though one day I'll change it to having a wake.

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[QUOTE=dotti34;1253237]Isn't it great that we are allowed to have opinions and not be afraid to 'voice' them, whether others agree with us or not. To have equal time for opposing views needs to have equal input and of course this is something that is up to the individuals taking part in a debate. Thank goodness for forums such as Accrington Web where we can express our views and debate them. Whether or not our opinions change after reading what others think doesn't really matter, at least the people taking part have had an opportunity to have their say.

Well put together Dotti, I cannot fault what you are saying,I must admit that I sometimes go over the top a bit and for that I will apologise to any one who has been offended by any of my posts, especially yourself and Margaret.
In my younger days I was always classed as a young cantankerous,(maybe spelt wrong); little sod but my wife of 54 years tells me that I have changed; I am now an (OLD) cantankerous little sod but she still loves me.
Yours the cantankerous little Lancashire Luddite.

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taddy, you have not offended anyone on here. its them who have decided to be offended if they were. we have got where we are today by people who do not like being told or hearing the truth. they cannot take it like we used to be able to do.

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monkey hanger, yes a forum is definitely more interesting when there are lots of input and different views on subjects - good debates, that's what we need more of. As for age, well I'll just say if my next birthday cake has the correct number of candles on it then this will set off smoke alarms and we would need to have a fire extinguisher handy. I could create my own carbon emission.

As for being offended, Taddy, absolutely no need to apologise. I can give it out so I am prepared to take it. We say it as we see it. Maybe my attempts at wit, and sometimes tongue-in-cheek comments, are not recognised as such. More's the pity, as I do try my best.

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[QUOTE=dotti34;1253268 As for age, well I'll just say if my next birthday cake has the correct number of candles on it then this will set off smoke alarms and we would need to have a fire extinguisher handy. I could create my own carbon emission.

well i can afford the cake but the candles are way to costly for me now. anyway please delete your post as little greta will be hanging round and nameing and shaming you.

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funny how us older ones are prepared to give it out and take it. was it the years of having to sit in corners, barely seen and never heard thats got us in this position.

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I think I'm safe, MH, from little Greta as I doubt she reads AccyWeb - but you never know....
and as for why we can take it and give it out perhaps that's because over the years we have had to become thick-skinned. Well I know I have. However, I have never sat quietly in corners, and, as you have probably gathered, I have always liked to be heard.